Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Carlos Mesa/archive1

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Carlos Mesa edit

Nominator(s): Krisgabwoosh (talk) 19:20, 17 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This article is about...Carlos Mesa, the former president, vice president, and active opposition leader in Bolivia. Notable for his work as a historian and journalist, was elected vice president in 2002 only to succeed to the presidency just over a year later following the Bolivian gas conflict. An independent politician, his tumultuous presidency attempted to appease left-wing calls for the nationalization of hydrocarbons and right-wing demands for regional autonomy, though unrest ultimately resulted in his resignation. Mesa's return to prominence as the spokesmen of Bolivia's Maritime Demand against Chile led him to challenge Evo Morales for the presidency, and he was a primary leader in the protests that followed the election. Unsuccessful in his second presidential bid, he is now the leader of the opposition in the legislature. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 19:20, 17 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Image review

Captions that aren't complete sentences shouldn't end in periods

General grammar rule is to be consistent with punctuations. As some captions are complete sentences and thus have periods, the others should probably be kept. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 05:43, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

See MOS:CAPFRAG. Nikkimaria (talk) 02:03, 19 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Got it. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 22:24, 19 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Don't use fixed px size

Apologies, but I don't entirely understand. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 05:43, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Some images are fixed to a particular pixel size - per MOS:IMGSIZE they should almost always instead use |upright= to scale images relative to user preferences. Nikkimaria (talk) 02:03, 19 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Avoid sandwiching text between images

Will adding a space between image files and text do? Krisgabwoosh (talk) 05:43, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure what you mean by this? Nikkimaria (talk) 02:03, 19 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Like so? Krisgabwoosh (talk) 22:31, 19 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

File:Signature_of_Carlos_Mesa.svg: where is this licensing coming from?

Should be PD-Signature. Corrected. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 05:43, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

File:Carlos_Mesa_-_Family_(1965_photograph)_Biblioteca_Virtual_Carlos_D._Mesa.jpg: when and where was this first published? Ditto File:Carlos_Mesa_-_Student_(1971_photograph)_Biblioteca_Virtual_Carlos_D._Mesa.jpg

Both appear to be personal photographs so it never would have been published by a media outlet and the like. Would their appearance on the sourced website count as the date of first publication? Krisgabwoosh (talk) 05:43, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Potentially, but that would mean a licensing change. Nikkimaria (talk) 02:03, 19 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
To what license? Krisgabwoosh (talk) 22:32, 19 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

File:National_Cockade_of_Bolivia.svg: why is the uploader believed to hold copyright? Ditto File:BOL_Order_of_Condor_of_the_Andes_-_Grand_Cross_BAR.png, File:OPMM-gc.svg, File:PER_Order_of_the_Sun_of_Peru_-_Grand_Cross_BAR.png, *File:Order_of_San_Carlos_-_Grand_Cross_(Colombia)_-_ribbon_bar.png, File:MEX_Order_of_the_Aztec_Eagle_1Class_BAR.png

PD-text logo for all as they're composed of simple geometric shapes. Exception is File:OPMM-gc.svg which now has PD-MaltaGov. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 05:43, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

File:Pope_johnpaul_funeral_politics.jpeg: source link is dead

Added archived link. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 05:43, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

File:2019_Bolivian_elections_map.png and File:Mapa_Electoral_de_Bolivia_2020_Bolivia.svg are missing sources for the data presented, and see MOS:COLOUR

Added source. Will change colors to match the other map soon. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 05:43, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

File:Orden_del_Sol.jpg: what's the copyright status of the original work? Nikkimaria (talk) 03:29, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

If you mean the medal itself, it dates back to 1821 so very much in the public domain. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 05:43, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Needs a tag for that on the image description page. Nikkimaria (talk) 02:03, 19 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose from Gog the Mild edit

Recusing to review.

This is the first FAC nomination from this editor. I am unsure if the advice on the main FAC page - "Editors considering their first nomination, and any subsequent nomination before their first FA promotion, are strongly advised to seek the involvement of a mentor" - has been followed. In any event the article is far too long and is not written in the summary style expected at FAC. (FA criterion 4.) Almost every section needs boiling down to a more succinct presentation of the facts. The article may also benefit from a visit to GoCER. I recommend that the nomination is withdrawn for the nominator to obtain a/consult their mentor about rewriting the article with a view to renomination. Gog the Mild (talk) 15:12, 19 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Valid points. I'll withdraw the nomination and look into having it peer reviewed first. Cheers! Krisgabwoosh (talk) 22:38, 19 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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