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The article was promoted by Karanacs 02:08, 15 July 2010 [1].

Amanita bisporigera edit

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Nominator(s): Sasata (talk) 17:41, 21 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Amanita bisporigera is one of several deadly toxic "destroying angel" mushrooms, and of high importance for the fungi Wikiproject. I've done what I can with researching and copyediting, and look forward to any suggestions for improvement you might have. Sasata (talk) 17:41, 21 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment—no dab links, no dead external links. Ucucha 18:00, 21 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sources comment: JSTOR articles (3 at present) should be indicated (subscription required). Otherwise all sources look OK, no further issues. Brianboulton (talk) 09:54, 23 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Done, thanks for checking. Sasata (talk) 04:38, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support: all comments addressed, the usual high standard. Ucucha 19:12, 24 June 2010 (UTC) ;Comments[reply]

  • Images: File:Amanita_bisporigera_basidia.jpg needs the death date of the author (or you can claim PD in the US because it was published before 1923). File:Amanita_ocreata_874.jpg is licensed under CC-BY-NC-SA, which is incompatible with our licensing, and has been nominated for deletion, correctly as far as I can see. All other images look OK.
  • I believe the license I used already claims PD in the US, so it should be okay (couldn't find the death date, anyway). I have replaced the Amanita ocreata image with one that has a wiki-compatible CC-BY-SA. Sasata (talk) 04:38, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yes, I missed the second PD template. However, the first one still claims PD because the author died more than 70 years ago, and you can hardly do that when you don't know when he died. Ucucha 05:42, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Got it - switched to the correct template. Sasata (talk) 19:08, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Midwestern and Eastern"—I would use lowercase here; are you sure this is correct?
  • I dunno... just following the capitalization convention from Wikipedia's own articles on the subjects. Sasata (talk) 04:38, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wouldn't the correct name for the species be striatula if that name is a synonym?
  • I can speculate several reasons why it might not be... but I'll dig around a bit and see if I can find the actual answer. Sasata (talk) 04:38, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • The way you're piping potassium hydroxide creates an easter egg link.
  • Is anything known about the chemical basis for the yellow staining?
  • In general, the dilute KOH solution dissolves pigments trapped in the cell walls, but I couldn't find any specifics about the yellow staining of this species (or even Amanita in general). I'll keep looking. Sasata (talk) 04:38, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • You have "white Amanitas" one and then "white Amanitas" further down.
  • After looking around, it seems the correct way to pluralize genus names is to remove the italics and uncapitalize them, so that's now what I've done here. Sasata (talk) 04:38, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • The lead and the body are at variance a couple of times: for example, the distribution in North America is described differently, and the body says the Colombian population may have been introduced whereas the lead says it has been.

Might the following be useful? Title: Spotlights on advances in mycotoxin research Author(s): Bohnert, Markus; Wackler, Barbara; Hoffmeister, Dirk Source: Applied Microbiology and Biotechnology Volume: 87 Issue: 1 Pages: 1-7 Published: JUN 2010 Article Number: 10.1007/s00253-010-2565-8; 1432-0614(electronic)

  • This recent review summarizes the 2007 Halling paper similar to the way I did. It's a useful secondary source, so I cited it. Sasata (talk) 04:38, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Title: Processing of the Phalloidin Proprotein by Prolyl Oligopeptidase from the Mushroom Conocybe albipes Author(s): Luo, H; Hallen-Adams, HE; Walton, JD Source: JOURNAL OF BIOLOGICAL CHEMISTRY Volume: 284 Issue: 27 Pages: 18070-18077 Published: 2009

  • This is research that extends the work they did in 2007 with A. bisporigera and applies it to a different toxic species, but it's not especially germaine here. Sasata (talk) 04:38, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Title: Reduced genomic potential for secreted plant cell-wall-degrading enzymes in the ectomycorrhizal fungus Amanita bisporigera, based on the secretome of Trichoderma reesei Author(s): Nagendran, S; Hallen-Adams, HE; Paper, JM, et al. Source: FUNGAL GENETICS AND BIOLOGY Volume: 46 Issue: 5 Pages: 427-435 Published: 2009

  • For some reason I convinced myself earlier that I didn't need to include it, but rereading the paper more thoroughly, I now think it's relevant and fits nicely in the "Genome sequencing" section. Sasata (talk) 04:38, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Title: Mushrooms as potential sources of Wolbachia-curing antibiotics Author(s): Jaenike, J; Elizondo, S; Delahanty, N Source: EVOLUTIONARY ECOLOGY RESEARCH Volume: 8 Issue: 7 Pages: 1291-1299 Published: NOV 2006

  • Would give an opportunity to say something nice about it—but, alas, it didn't work.
True, nothing useful here. Sasata (talk) 04:38, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Title: PARASITE PRESSURE AND THE EVOLUTION OF AMANITIN TOLERANCE IN DROSOPHILA Author(s): JAENIKE, J Source: EVOLUTION Volume: 39 Issue: 6 Pages: 1295-1301 Published: 1985

Our species is only peripheral to this paper, mentioned in passing as a member of the toxic Phalloideae. Sasata (talk) 04:38, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Title: MUSHROOM POISONING - ANALYSIS OF 2 CASES, AND A POSSIBLE NEW TREATMENT, PLASMAPHERESIS Author(s): KENDRICK, B; SHIMIZU, A Source: MYCOLOGIA Volume: 76 Issue: 3 Pages: 448-453 Published: 1984

  • One of the two cases was poisoning partially due to A. bisporigera, but I think what's in this paper fits better in an article like mushroom poisoning. Thanks for reviewing & the copyedit. Sasata (talk) 04:38, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ucucha 18:16, 23 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support Comments I am reading throguh now and jot queries as I go. Looking good. Casliber (talk · contribs) 03:18, 28 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The name "eastern north american destroying angel" is the most exacting name - is it worth having in the lead?
Sure, done. Sasata (talk) 20:12, 28 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I note there is an Amanita virosiformis from florida - presumably this is another white amanita - is it worth noting as a similar species in the similar species section?
Neither A. elliptosperma nor A. magnivelaris turns yellow with KOH. needs a cite.
Cited. Sasata (talk) 20:12, 28 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Otherwise, I have surpisingly little tweaks to make. Well done. Casliber (talk · contribs) 03:18, 28 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • "Deadly" twice in para 1 — "lethal" for one?
  • Would any of these be a better link than spore in the lead?
  • It's technically a basidiospore, but that article is weak so I'm reluctant to link to it. Someday I'll work on it and ascospore that so I may link to them without shame. Sasata (talk) 20:12, 28 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Do we know what substance or reaction is involved in the KOH colour test?
  • Asked by Ucucha above, but I still don't know any specifics about the reaction. Sasata (talk) 20:12, 28 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support Comments: The article looks really good. My only concern is that Lewis' 1906 illustration is described in the text, but shows up in the next section, "Toxicity"... at least at my high resolution. I've been tinkering with image placement and I think I found something that works for both high and low resolution. Feel free to revert me if you don't like it. But once we come to an agreement on this one issue, I will offer my support. – VisionHolder « talk » 15:32, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That edit places the Lewis picture in its proper section, but now the cladogram shows up in the description section. I left-aligned it and placed it at the top of the taxonomy section. I also decreased the size of the yellow-staining pic, as it doesn't need to be large to get the point across. How does that look? There's a bit of a text squeeze between it and the taxobox, but I don't really know how to resolve that short of moving the whole section down (which I don't want to do, as it then won't follow the layout of other fungal FAs). Sasata (talk) 16:14, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
One word—Beautiful! Excellent article. – VisionHolder « talk » 16:25, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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