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The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was promoted by Ian Rose via FACBot (talk) 27 October 2022 [1].

2021 British Open edit

Nominator(s): Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 10:21, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This article is about the return of the British Open snooker tournament. This is the second nomination, as the first died due to lack of comments. Let me know what you think, as I look forward to any concerns you may have. Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 10:21, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Drive-by comment edit

  • Will do a full review later but putting this here largely as a reminder to myself to do so.....
    • "All rounds in the tournament were played after a random draw was made [....] and was drawn" - bit of a grammatical disagreement going on there..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:00, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
      • Sure, I've changed to "played under". Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 11:39, 23 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
        • "All rounds in the tournament were played [...] and was played under" still doesn't work gramatically. The subject of the whole sentence is "all rounds", so all verbs need to be plural..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 12:01, 23 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

More comments edit

  • "first held in 1980 as the British Gold Cup, won by Alex Higgins" => "first held in 1980 as the British Gold Cup, when it was won by Alex Higgins"
  • Is there any background to why the tournament restarted after 17 years?
    • Other than PR stuff? Not really. It shared some similarities to the last version in 2004, but it's very different - different amount of participants, best of fives (rather than nines and elevens), different venue etc. The only thing that remained was a random draw that wasn't even a thing in every event and it's title. I suspect it was just brought back to have another event held in the UK. Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 11:47, 23 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • "The event was broadcast by: ITV4" - don't think that colon is needed
  • "At 46 years and 90 days, Higgins became the oldest player to make a maximum break in competition. Higgins was already the oldest player to make one" - this reads a bit weirdly, as the first sentence suggests that he broke someone else's record but then we learn that he actually already held it himself. Maybe reword to something like "Higgins broke his own record as the oldest...." or something?
  • "Mark Allen and Reanne Evans who had been in a relationship between 2005 and 2008, met" - needs a comma after Evans
  • "Hendry won the match 3–2, his first main tournament win since retiring in 2012" - strange to read that he won his first match since retiring - presumably he must have "un-retired" at some point.......?
  • "David Gilbert who had won his first ranking event at the preceding Championship League event reached" => "David Gilbert, who had won his first ranking event at the preceding Championship League event, reached"
  • "A break of 111 in frame three for Williams was his first century break of the event, before Wilson won frame four.[43] Wilson won frame three with a break of 101 to lead the match for the first time" - this reads oddly because we seem to move from frame three, to frame four, then back to frame three.....?
  • Photo captions need full stops
  • Think that's all I got! :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:26, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Now happy to support BTW if you had any spare time and fancied taking a look at this current FAC, your thoughts would be most gratefully received. If not, not to worry. Have a good day -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 13:15, 23 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Image review

Coordinator comment edit

Three weeks in and just the single general support. Unless this nomination makes significant further progress towards a consensus to promote over the next three or four days I am afraid that it is liable to be archived. Gog the Mild (talk) 20:20, 9 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Same as usual. I'll get on the blower and see what I can get going Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 20:49, 9 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

HF - support edit

I'll take a look at this. Can't promise that it'll be before Tuesday though. Hog Farm Talk 21:13, 9 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Is there a specific reason as to why it hadn't been held in close to two decades?
    • There has been zero reason given both why it was no longer played and why it was brought back - other than the event being "prestigious" and wanting another event on the calendar to be played in England as there were no Chinese events during lockdown. Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 06:36, 11 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think a few sentences about how qualification occurred would be useful
  • " Netherton, Alexander (17 August 2021). "British Open 2021: Mark Selby defeats Shaun Murphy in first round in World Championship replay". Archived from the original on 19 August 2021. Retrieved 17 August 2021." - needs publisher

Sources look okay enough from a reliability standpoint, and the content seems fine. My only cue sports familiarity is a little cutthroat pool in college, but I found it to be comprehensible. Hog Farm Talk 02:01, 11 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! I'll take a look at these. I've never actually played Cutthroat (pool), but I'll add it to my list to try. Snooker is a much more comprehensive and complicated game played on giant tables with tiny pockets. Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 06:34, 11 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from BennyOnTheLoose edit

It seems like the article has improved since I previously supported it at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/2021 British Open/archive1, but I'll have another look through. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 14:04, 12 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • "The event recorded 32 century breaks," - "recorded" doesn't seem like the right word to me.
  • "Sports cast in Thailand;" - source has True Sport for Thailand, and Sport Cast for Taiwan.
  • "Hendry played Gary Wilson, but lost 0–3."; "Wilson played Slessor, but trailed 0–2" - I don't think "but"s fit here.
  • Final: could explain what the numbers in parentheses are (unless you think it's obvious)
  • Century breaks: currently four instances of "made"; you could vary the wording.

Source review - spotchecks not done

Hi Nikkimaria, how is this one looking now? Thanks. Gog the Mild (talk) 11:59, 26 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Should be good to go. Nikkimaria (talk) 03:21, 27 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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