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The article was promoted by Ealdgyth via FACBot (talk) 27 December 2020 [1].

2018 EFL League Two play-off Final edit

Nominator(s):  — Amakuru (talk) 22:48, 11 November 2020 (UTC), The Rambling Man[reply]

It's another play-off final for your perusal, this time the match to decide the last team promoted from League Two (the fourth tier) up to League One (the third tier). This one featured Coventry City, who had been relegated in 2016–17 (despite their win in the 2017 EFL Trophy Final - see my other FAC nomination, further down this page!). And they were playing against Exeter City, who were in the final for the second season in a row. I was at the game as a Coventry supporter, and it was a happy day for us, as the team raced into a 3–0 lead after half time, eventually winning the game 3–1. Unfortunately for Exeter they are still trying to get out of the division and they lost yet again in the same final this season. This is a co-nomination by myself and The Rambling Man, we both already have one solo nom open each but I think that's allowed. Looking forward to hearing feedback!  — Amakuru (talk) 22:48, 11 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Images are freely licensed (t · c) buidhe 23:59, 11 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Buidhe thanks! The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 07:49, 12 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Mike Christie edit

  • Coventry wore a one-off kit commissioned for the match as the club had run out of their regular season home strip. This was bizarre enough for me to go looking at the sources. Per this (the "cynical" comment), this, which talks about minimum order numbers, and this, with the sarcastic comment about washing machines, I think a lot of fans suspected Coventry decided to cash in on the fact that fans would buy a special edition shirt, but would feel no need to buy another standard shirt. I don't think there's quite enough in those three links to justify adding anything to the article, but if you can find more than that it would be good. Something like "though some commentators speculated that this was a ploy to allow them to sell commemorative editions of the shirts" would be enough, if it can be sourced.
    @Mike Christie: there do seem to be quite a few media sources simply detailing the kit swap, but I haven't found too many mentioning controversy, other than those you mention. There is [2], which says "The move was criticised as a scheme of making money from the end-of-season spectacle" but it doesn't say who criticised it, and that source can't be used anyway per WP:DAILYMAIL. And this from the Kidderminster Shuttle: [3] which mentions "reaction to the announcement on social media" as being "decidedly mixed". Given this, and your comment above, I suspect there isn't enough to warrant amending at this point, but do say if you find anything else. Cheers  — Amakuru (talk) 12:52, 26 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Four minutes into additional time, Stockley's header was saved by Burge before the Exeter strike went wide of the Coventry post. This doesn't quite make sense. What Exeter strike?
I addressed this latter point. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 12:13, 26 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

That's all I can find. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 11:42, 26 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support. There's a suggestion above remaining, but there may be no sources for it, so I'm not going to hold up support. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 12:22, 26 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Coordinator note edit

This has been open a while and attracted little attention. I shall add it to urgents and ask for a source review, but unless it receives more interest quickly it is going to time out. Gog the Mild (talk) 18:24, 10 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

ON my list, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 00:28, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comments Support by Kosack edit

  • Promotion is linked in the second half of the first paragraph in the Route to the final section, but is used earlier in the paragraph.
  • "bottom tier since the 1958–59 season", does "the" need to be included in the link here? It's the only usage like this I can see in the article.
  • Could link Director of football?
  • "when Chris Stokes was forced to leave the pitch for medical attention when he was", the double use of when is perhaps a little repetitive. Change the second to after?

A couple of minor points, but I'm nitpicking at best really. Kosack (talk) 13:13, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Kosack all addressed, many thanks for taking a look! The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 13:31, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
No worries, happy to support. Kosack (talk) 23:53, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

SandyGeorgia (Support) edit

Don't understand the first thing about soccer, so consider this a jargon check.

  • After a goalless first half, Coventry took the lead four minutes into the second half through Jordan Willis. No idea what the means. Took the lead because Jordan Willis scored a goal?
    Yes, exactly. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 13:27, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Is there a wikilink to tell us what a consolation goal is? ... scored a consolation goal ...
    No, it's a dictionary definition. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 13:27, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    I think that "consolation goal" could be considered a jargon term for those who haven't heard it before, and we do have it described in our Glossary of association football terms, so I have boldly provided a link to the C section of that glossary. This is similar to the square ball link in the 2007 Football League Championship play-off Final article. If you really disagree, TRM, then revert me... but if Sandy finds it confusing, it doesn't seem to harm the article to include that link. On the other issues, I agree they mainly look like ENGVAR differences. "Take the lead" is ubiquitous across all sports, including American football too, so that one should be fine. Cheers, and thanks to SandyGeorgia for the extra pair of eyes on this FAC.  — Amakuru (talk) 21:36, 17 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks (and now I know what it is). All of my concerns are resolved now, Support. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:40, 17 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • What is a "striker" ? Is there a wikilink? Coventry striker Marc McNulty ...
    "Linked. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 13:27, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Not sure if this is a BrEng thing, but this sentence isn't working for me ... Three days after the final, the Exeter City manager Paul Tisdale left the club after twelve years having failed to agree a new contract. --> Three days after the final, the Exeter City manager Paul Tisdale left the club after twelve years COMMA having failed to agree ON a new contract.
    The comma works, but we agree contracts, we don't need to agree "on" them in. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 13:34, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • New manager and former player Matt Taylor led them ... led the team? or led the club ... or whatever you call them in soccer ...
    Reiterated Exeter. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 13:34, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • BrEng? No idea what this means ... but if it is common in BrEng, please do ignore me ... Tisdale was linked to a move away from Exeter,
    BritEng, means there was speculation in the media etc that he would get a job elsewhere. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 13:34, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • MOS:LQ? "It means everything, especially with the season we had last year ... I've not scored many and they all came last season but this one is definitely up there".

SandyGeorgia (Talk) 20:12, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Done.
SandyGeorgia thanks, all addressed and/or responded to. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 13:34, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Coord note edit

Just noting we're still awaiting a source review, per Gog's note above and request at WT:FAC. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 23:43, 18 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ian Rose like Brexit, we're done. Now for the sprouts. Cheers, happy time of the year to you! The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 21:48, 24 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Source review – Pass edit

Doing now Aza24 (talk) 20:59, 24 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • spotchecks not done, though I have no doubts on the verifiability here
  • thank you for consistent retrieval dates and archive links
  • Since you're linking works/publishers when avaliable it looks like you can link Perform Group,
  • it looks like ref 13 & 18 are the same – assuming 18 should be "3 of 5"
  • ref 26 missing author
  • Formatting looks good otherwise
  • I see no reliabillity issues Aza24 (talk) 21:26, 24 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Aza24 thanks for the review, I think I've addressed your comments. Cheers, and happy holidays etc. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 21:40, 24 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Yes – looks great. Pass for source review; happy holidays to you as well! Aza24 (talk) 21:44, 24 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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