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Ronald Karel

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You think my edit removing copyrighted material was incorrect, the next step is to start a discussion with me not simply revert. I think I'm correct, but perhaps is something I'm missing. Please let me know.--S Philbrick(Talk) 18:38, 9 January 2017 (UTC)Reply

There are several issues to discuss, but it will take a bit of time for me to put together a coherent response. I'll try to do so soon, although I have an upcoming meeting, so it may take until morning.--S Philbrick(Talk) 19:17, 9 January 2017 (UTC)Reply


Ronald Karel sounds like an interesting person, and I applaud your interest in improving the article about him. I confess I had never heard of earthquake clouds, so his area of interest is quite fascinating.

However, we do have some fairly stringent rules about inclusion of material in articles. We do not accept long passages of copyrighted material; short passages when properly quoted are sometimes acceptable. One very common misconception is that editors sometimes think it is okay to use copyrighted material if they are the copyright holder. I realize that's not exactly what happened here but even if Ronald Karel gave you permission for those words it would not be good enough. (I can explore this further if necessary.)

An additional issue is that we want material and articles to be sourced to reliable sources. One might think that a website authored by the article themselves would be the ultimate in a reliable source but it's actually the opposite. We want sources to be reliable and independent of the subject.

The historical information about the subject growing up would be relevant for the article but only if it has been reported in a secondary reliable source. You need to find evidence that, for example, some newspaper reporter or magazine reporter has interviewed the subject and reported his history.

While the material at this site Is quite interesting, it cannot be used for two reasons. One is that it is automatically subject to copyright, but secondly it does not constitute a reliable source. So while there are avenues to pursue when wishing to use copyrighted material, it only makes sense to pursue them if the material itself qualifies as a reliable source.

Sorry to be so negative, but such a high profile person probably has newspaper articles, magazine articles and scientific papers discussing him and his theories.--S Philbrick(Talk) 19:47, 9 January 2017 (UTC)Reply

Hi S Philbrick, All your points make so much of sense to me. I will try to adhere all your suggestions and improve the text accordingly. 9 January 2017
Thanks for your understanding. --S Philbrick(Talk) 20:22, 9 January 2017 (UTC)Reply
Hi All Sphilbrick, JJMC89, BethNaught, Krd, I highly appreciate your efforts to improve my text about Ronald Karel. Neither of us have any idea which content should deserve wikipedia and which not. I have modified the text again to the best of my knowledge, keeping the following points in mind. (a) Biography should not be lengthy. (b) Author should not refer to himself. (c) Text should be paraphrased. (d) Superfluous content should be avoided. Kindly go through the page again and let me know if that makes sense. Also kindly let me know what kind of info should come in a person's wiki-page? Best Regards!

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