User talk:Zero0000/2005

Remainder

Dear Zero, I am struggling with the remainder, modulo, and modulo operation pages. I think you should know more number theory than me. Is the remainder of division of two integers alwasy positive or not? For example, what is the remainder of dividing -7 by 3, of -7 by -3, and of -7 by -3? Do you happen to have any references for this? Thanks. Oleg Alexandrov 01:47, 5 Jan 2005 (UTC) PS See my message above about sequence.

GNU Scientific Library

Hello - I don't agree that the GSL link contains no useful information. For someone who wants to actually calculate the gamma function or to look at the actual code algorithm which calculates it this is a prime source, and its open source too, like wikipedia. Perhaps a notation on the reference that it is more useful for those who want to calculate or look at code for the gamma function is in order. I would like to put it back in, with such a note, but I wanted to run it by you first to see if I fully understood your objection.

Mitchell Bard

Thank you for the information you obtained from the UN progress report on Palestinian refugees, which was very helpful and laid the matter to rest. I was interested to read that you have a low opinion of Mitchell Bard's research, and I was wondering if you could expand on your reasons for that if you have the time. I've tended to trust him in the past; he has a PhD in political science, has held a postdoctoral fellowship, has written for academic journals etc, so I've assumed his research was scholarly and his figures reliable, notwithstanding that he does have a POV, but he doesn't pretend otherwise. I'd be very interested to hear your views, as you seem to know your stuff. Best, SlimVirgin 18:34, Jan 24, 2005 (UTC)

Subsequence

Feel free to alter it. It's from PlanetMath. I just noticed that the article was lacking a formal definition. CryptoDerk 02:44, Feb 2, 2005 (UTC)

Erdös number

Hi Zero0000, what is wrong with the title for Erdös number? It looks ok to me. Doesn't the "umlaut" over the "o" display for you? Paul August ☎ 15:29, Feb 3, 2005 (UTC)

Ah, I see. Sorry. Paul August ☎ 14:34, Feb 4, 2005 (UTC)

Goy

Yes, I do know that. But it seemed to me that the language itself was being indicted as intrincisally ethnocentric, which is ridiculous. I have never doubted or questioned that there are ethnocentric Jews. But I have argued that Jewish ethnocentrism is no different from any other form of ethnocentrism. Most of the debate surrounding this article is whether there is something unique about Jewish ethnocentrism. To suggest that the word "goy" is linguistic evidence that the language of the Jews is ethnocentric is wrong. What gives goy its ethnocentric meaning is how it is used. In technical terms, this is a matter of sociolinguistics (which analyzes the social uses of language), rather than ethnolinguistics (which studies the relationship between language culture, and cognition). The issue is not whether other languages have a word that translates as "goy," the question is whether people in other cultures ever use some word (no matter what it's denotation) to express ethnocentrism -- and I would argue that this happens in all societies. Slrubenstein 17:18, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Alien

From User talk:RK:

JFW, you must be an alien from a parallel universe. --Zero 22:03, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Why am I an alien from a parallel universe? I am willing to hear your argumentation, but at the moment it sounds more like a personal attack than an argument in a discussion. JFW | T@lk 07:13, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)

The subject matter may have been different. I am not saying that my arguments with RK were always pleasant, but I find the 1 year ban unconstructive. I suppose we can agree to disagree, but as long as Robert behaves constructively there should be no absolute ban on editing Judaism articles. My only real hope is that he will quote more primary sources rather than simply rehashing the very speculative stuff from the 1906 Jewish Encyclopedia. JFW | T@lk 17:10, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)

RK

I'm interested in hearing your views on RK's appeal. Do you think the original ban was a good idea? RK says the problem articles had been delt with amicably long ago. Is this true? Do you have any evidence for or against? Please post it here if you do. Is there anyone else i need to ask to provide evidence? Theresa Knott (The snott rake) 18:59, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Ramil Safarov

Nagorno-Karabakh is a region that is the object of a disputed between Azerbaijan and Armenia. They had a real war, not just an edit war. For a taste of just how hot people get over this issue, read about Ramil Safarov. The copy of the page at Republic of Nagorno-Karabahk is one of many created the other day by an anon, User:64.136.2.254, who also messed with a lot of redirects and every link to the Nagorno-Karabakh page. Theresa knott cleaned up a lot of the mess. This page is still around because a likely sockpuppet, User:Clarkefreak, reverted out the {{del}} tag and made this page ineligible for speedying. I'm working with the parties to end the dispute. If I thought that a redirect was appropriate, I could have saved myself a lot of typing. — Davenbelle 13:39, Feb 18, 2005 (UTC)

Totally off of your usual turf...

... but could you have a look at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Messhermit? I came into this (at Talk:Alberto Fujimori) as a neutral party. About a day in, I certified User:Viajero's RfC about personal attacks. Now I'm being subjected to comparable personal attacks myself, so I guess I can no longer play "outside party", and one is badly needed. -- Jmabel | Talk 06:01, Mar 2, 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Votes_for_deletion/University_of_Sydney_Media_Society

When closing vfd debates, please follow the instructions on Wikipedia:Deletion_process. Thank you. -- AllyUnion (talk) 14:55, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Schools on Wikipedia:Votes for deletion

As of March 4, 2005, the following (7) articles are currently listed for deletion under the POV suggestion that schools are not notable (even though this is invalid reasoning as per the Wikipedia deletion policy. Whether you agree or disagree, please be aware that the following schools are actively being voted on:

• VfD: Canyon Crest Academy
• VfD: Devonport High School for boys
• VfD: Eyuboglu high school
• VfD: Geylang Methodist Secondary School
• VfD: Maha Jana High School
• VfD: Robert Frost Middle School
• VfD: Wood Green School

Thank you for your time. --GRider\^talk

New Historians

I was wondering if you could have a look at my questions about references at Talk:New Historians. They seem to be mostly about material you added. I don't think anything is actively wrong, but a great deal is missing, and I'm guessing that you'd have the best chance of filling it in. -- Jmabel | Talk 01:01, Mar 5, 2005 (UTC)

Talk:Israeli settlements RFC

There is an outstanding solicitation for comments on the length and relevancy of the Sasson Report section of the article, as well as the removal of the POV tag. Very few have responded. Please give us your input. Thank you.--A. S. A. 14:36, Mar 18, 2005 (UTC)

More schools on Wikipedia:Votes for deletion

As of March 25, 2005, there are an additional (6) articles listed for deletion under the POV notion that schools are non-notable (even though this is invalid reasoning as per the Wikipedia deletion policy). Please be aware that the following schools are actively being discussed and voted upon:

• VfD: Blake Junior High School (renominated)
• VfD: Franklin High School
• VfD: Lake Dow Christian Academy
• VfD: Red Lake High School
• VfD: The Sage School
• VfD: Toowoomba Grammar School

In response to this cyclical ordeal, a Schoolwatch programme has been initiated in order to indentify school-related articles which may need improvement and to help foster and encourage continued organic growth. Your comments are welcome and I thank you again for your time. --GRider\^talk

Image question

Quick question: did you create the image IsraelBarrier.png? -- 193.78.177.1 13:34, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I made changes to it but I didn't create the original . This image is now obsoleted by BarrierFeb2005.png, which I created from scratch. --Zero 14:08, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Thanbk you. -- 193.78.177.1 14:23, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)

New article: Women for Israel's Tomorrow

Please consider reading this new article I just created. --AladdinSE 12:08, Apr 9, 2005 (UTC)

Picture Source

File:Ac.jabotinsky2.jpg

Hello! Where is the source of this picture? Can I upload to Japanese Wikipedia? --Sheynhertz-Unbayg 15:49, 1 May 2005 (UTC)

It is a standard very old picture printed in hundreds of places. I think you can use it without worrying. --Zero 16:32, 1 May 2005 (UTC)

Thank you, Zero!

For the very kind words and for all your support in my RfA! When it comes to 20th Century Middle Eastern history and issues, I always breath a sigh of relief when I see you enter a discussion or make an edit, and your work in that area has been considerable and of particularly high quality. Looking forward to future collaboration, and as always, engaging discussions. Yours, El_C 03:29, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

Jizya

Hi again. I made my first and only edit today to Jizya [1], and was called an Islamist for it. Good/sad, inexplicable comedy, eh? Anyway, I noticed that you've edited it before, and I'm wandering whether you think I should have kept the two sentences that section consisted of at the time you were editing it. Thanks, El_C 08:53, 7 May 2005 (UTC)

Nice, I'm glad you approve! Will take a glance at International law and the Arab-Israeli conflict soon, thanks for the tip. Yours, El_C 15:06, 7 May 2005 (UTC)

Israeli demographics

There has recently been another poll about the ever changing religious demographics in Israel. Is there a possibility that an official survey exists? I do not believe that a geocites website should serve as a final word. Perhaps it should be updated with a more recent and official source? I can't seem to find an recent one done in 2005.

Guy Montag 06:39, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Quotation

Thank you for your kind offer. I would like to see the scan, assuming it's in English, even though it is irrelevant to the article. --Ian Pitchford 18:14, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Thanks, again. If you think it appropriate I can make the scan available for download so that at least those with knowledge of Arabic can look at the relevant section and a little of the context. --Ian Pitchford 10:32, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Good work with the scan. Many thanks --Ian Pitchford 13:51, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Request

Hi, Zero. If you get a chance, can you please have a look for me at Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Zionist terrorism and Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Israeli terrorism, and those article + talk pages, for that matter. I'd really appreciate to hear your take on these. All the best, El_C 04:05, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I noticed your comments/votes. I'll write on that in greater length soon. Thanks for taking the time. And if you can still find the time to look at the articles/talk pages, I'm certain that will prove helpful, and esp. calming. They are becoming increasingly a mess. All the best, El_C 00:22, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Oh, also, if you get a chance, have a look at the article I authored on A'man, which inadvertantly (I seem to be employing that term often today, inadvertantly) led me to find a picture of Eli Cohen, which I just noticed you are the author of. El_C 00:25, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the Ls!

That's a lot of Ls. What do I owe you? Actually, I now recall that I asked Raul a question about that here, but forgot. I see he hasn't answered. Undoubtedly he found it to idiotic to dignify with a response! Likely the dumbest question in the history of WP; my Engrish, she's no so good. ;) El_C 10:36, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Thanks again for the insightful and instructive comments. Please see my response with some questions I think you'd be able to clear for me. Oh, and have great trip! I hope it proves relaxing, engaging, productive, in no particular order. :) Yours, El_C 10:52, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Israeli terrorism

What do you think about moving Israeli terrorism to state terrorism?

Guy Montag 07:35, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I intensely dislike all of these "X terrorism" articles, but there's no reason to treat this one differently from the others. --Zero 10:17, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

The point Mustafaa and Hoary forwarded —and I tend to agree— was that Israeli terrorism should be merged into State terrorism if and/or when it is sizable enough to be split. If the periodization for Zionist terrorism is to encompass the post-statehood era, then it, in this sense, denotes the clandestine, non-State terrorism aspect of it (i.e. versus Palestinian terrorism). Though that has some obvious problems that I'm sure you are well aware of; likely there should be some flexibility on that front to make it work; ah, but getting there... El_C 10:27, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Wikiportal/Palestine

Hi Zero. In view of your longstanding interest in (and excellent edits on) Palestine-related topics, I thought I'd bring Wikipedia:Wikiportal/Palestine to your attention. It's not being used much, but I imagine it could become a useful center for bringing gaps in coverage to people's attention... - Mustafaa 00:10, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Stats

Hi Zero. I don't suppose you happen to have any estimates of the total number expelled during the Palestinian refugee#First stage of the flight, December 1947 - March 1948? - Mustafaa 22:46, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

DId you look in Morris (Revisted)? I am very far from home at a conference and can't readily check it myself. --Zero 06:14, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Thanks. Btw, just made Wikipedia:Notice board for Palestine-related topics, if you're interested. - Mustafaa 20:34, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

List of Massacres

Zero, let me look into the convoy situation, so that I can give you a reasonable answeer. It would be good if you could help expand the non-wiki'ed massacres mentioned by Morris (or other sources). --Goodoldpolonius2 16:14, 23 July 2005 (UTC)

Ashkelon

I just noticed your edits here. They are relevant to a mild dispute with an anon at Gaza strip, who contends that there is no evidence of "expulsions to gaza" during the 1948 war. Knowing about the al-Majdal expulsions - or what I had always read and thought were expulsions, and still more or less sound like that on reading your text, I mentioned them as a somewhat relevant reference, while noting that Zero and others would know more on such matters than I. I thought that your input might be very helpful and enlightening in the Gaza article. --John Z 12:36, 31 July 2005 (UTC)

Israel

Hello. I reverted the changes you just made to the Israel article because they were the exact same changes just made by an anti-Semitic vandal. I am not familiar with the topic well enough to know if what you changed is correct or not, but the previous vandalism has me trigger-happy, and I'm sorry if the information is correct and I made a mistake in reverting it. Zoe 09:54, August 10, 2005 (UTC)

Note that I call the vandal anti-Semitic because they first redirected Israel to Nazi Germany, and when that was reverted, they began making attacks on other users in their edit summaries. Zoe 09:57, August 10, 2005 (UTC)

Hi, let me add to that if it's not too pretentious. When you make changes on a touchy subject, especially after vandalism, it doesn't hurt to propose and discuss on the "Discussion" page to avoid unnecessary reversals. I'm sure you already know this, but it doesn't hurt to say it again. Thanks, and sorry for the intromission. --Sebastian Kessel 15:17, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

OK, sorry about that, that's why I made the comments on your Talk page, to make sure you understood my reasons. Zoe 18:54, August 10, 2005 (UTC)

Patria disaster

Good article. In general, I think articles like this could be greatly strengthened by providing notes for each claim. General references, while valuable, don't help when someone inevitably comes along and deletes a sentence like The decision had been made by an activist faction, without consulting more moderate members according to normal procedure, and this caused serious internal divisions that persisted for many years on the grounds that it is "dubious" or "original research". Jayjg ^(talk) 15:53, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

Date formats

Re your edits to Struma, you may not realise that you don't need to change the format of dates by hand -- as long as the date has wiki brackets round it, it will automatically display in the style you prefer, which you can select in "preferences". Hope this helps, --mervyn 21:12, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

West Bank Barrier map

In your West Bank Barrier map [2], I think there may be some areas that are colored wrong. I may not be able to describe it right, but there are some areas where the barrier sort of pinches off an area of the west bank. You have colored some of those areas blue. I think they should be orange (I could be wrong). One example is the pinched off area around (near?) Kalkilya. On the map linked from the Israeli West Bank barrier page [3], it shows up as part of the West Bank, on your map it shows up as blue. If you have questions, reply to this on your page, I'll watch your talk page for a little while. Oh, BTW, I'd fix it myself except (i) it would be easier to fix in the original file (assuming you did it in Illustrator or something) and (ii) I wouldn't know how to fix it anyway. Thanks. Chuck 22:06, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

You are quite right. A new version based on the B'tselem map for May is at [4]. I updated the links in all articles that point to the old version. The only difference is the color changes you noticed. There is no room at this resolution to properly show the narrow corridors or to distinguish between different approval stages. --Zero 02:38, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

Cool, thanks. Chuck 16:02, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

Maariv

The website is now www.nrg.co.il, just in case... to replace maarivintl. :)

Thanks, but that is the Hebrew site. For a while there was an English edition at maarivintl.com but now I can't find an English edition at all. --Zero 13:35, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

Ouch, I just looked and that makes two of us... Can't find it either. :) --Sebastian Kessel 15:09, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

Israeli West Bank Barrier...

You deleted a claim on the Israeli West Bank Barrier from an image, but it also appears within the article. You deleted from image caption:

"Since this section was built, incidents of Palestinian snipers from Qalqiliyia shooting at Israeli civilian cars have ceased. However, ordinary Palestinians have also lost access to their farmlands and to surrounding towns and villages."

What remains in text of article:

"Since the completion of the fence in the area of Tulkarem and Qalqiliya in June 2003, there have been no successful attacks from those areas, all attacks have been intercepted or the suicide bombers have detonated prematurely."

I wanted to bring this to your attention in case you feel they are both invalid. They are worded slightly differently, so I don't know whether one is false and the other true. --MattWright (talk) 17:48, August 23, 2005 (UTC)

"Extermination" or "Genocide" of the Amalekites

I've further explained the reason for the change on the Amalek page from "Extermination" to "Genocide" on the Talk:Amalek page. Please review it. I think when you read the dictionary definition of genocide, it becomes very clear that this was a genocide, and calling it anything less than genocide is to insert a POV sympathetic to the Hebrew tribes who committed the act. I welcome your thoughts. Unfocused 16:58, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

---

I don't propose "chatting" with this prick. Adam 15:07, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

Barnstar

This Cool as a Cucumber_Award is awarded for keeping the calm in the Israel article. User:Sebastiankessel

The Nazi Connection to Islamic Terrorism

BYT put my article on this informative book up for VfD,I'd be honored if you'd take a look at the article and its VfD. Thanks. User:Klonimus/AINB Klonimus 07:50, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

Israel entry on WP:PROT

Hi. Please correct the word "ARTICLE_NAME" to "Israel" on WP:PROT. I'd rather not be so bold as to correct it myself. --Hoziron 15:47, September 5, 2005 (UTC)

Israel

Hi Zero, would you mind unlocking Israel please? Discussion on the talk page seems to have stopped. Many thanks, SlimVirgin ^(talk) 03:14, September 11, 2005 (UTC)

Thank you. SlimVirgin ^(talk) 10:16, September 11, 2005 (UTC)

Territories under Israeli control

Hey, Zero, I hope you are doing well. I noticed you haven't been around for a few weeks, but in case you return soon, we could really use your help with the abovetitled article. Best wishes, El_C 20:18, 28 September 2005 (UTC)

Arbitration case involving Yuber

The Arbitration case centred on Yuber, to which you gave comment, has closed. As a result of this:

• Both Yuber and Guy Montag are each placed on Wikipedia:Probation for one year from the date of closing this case (9th of October, 2005). Should any sysop feel that it is necessary that either of them be banned from an article where they is engaged in edit warring, removal of sourced material, POV reorganizations of the article, or any other activity which the user considers disruptive they shall place a template {{Yuber banned}} or {{Guy Montag banned}} as appropriate at the top of the talk page of the article, and notify them on their talk page. The template shall include the ending date of the ban (one year from this decision) and a link to Wikipedia:Probation. The template may be removed by any editor, including them, at the end of the ban. If they edit an article they are banned from, you will be briefly blocked from editing Wikipedia, for up to a week for repeat offenses.
• Yuber is instructed to use only this account, and no anonymous IPs. What editing constitutes Yuber's is up to any sysop to decide. If Yuber violates this, any sysop is authorised to ban them for up to a week.
• Guy Montag is banned from editing any article related to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict from the date of closing this case (9th of October, 2005).

Yours,

James F. (talk) 11:44, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

Either we expand

or we delete the blurb about "public relations" in Ashkelon. "Public relations" is impossible to defend as disinterested. Don't you think so? (Ashkelon). --VKokielov 00:20, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

The internal discussion quoted by Morris in his article on this episode (cited in our page) makes it clear that they didn't want to just go ahead and expel the Arabs openly. They decided on a subterfuge to make it appear as if the expulsion was voluntary. The reason was that the world was watching and Israel was already in enough trouble with the UN. This is called public relations. I'm not committed to using the words "public relations" but something equivalent needs to be said. Make a suggestion. --Zero 02:08, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

Requests for adminship

Just FYI: Ramallite is nominated for adminship: Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Ramallite Regards, Huldra 03:17, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you so much for your support and your congrats note. I hadn't seen you around for some time and glad you're back. Thanks again!! Ramallite ^(talk) 03:59, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

Ramle Article

I just wanted you to know that I didn't mean to delete that paragraph I guess I guess I did it accidently when I was edited the preceeding paragraph. Sorry about that.- Moshe Constantine Hassan Al-Silverburg (talk) 04:13, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

Sig

Thanks. I'll change it. --Ian Pitchford 13:15, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

Israeli Arabs

I wonder if you could possibly find the time to improve this article a bit. My attempt to add needed information into it has got me into a lot of hot water, including some fairly belligerent assertions about "passing Marxist analysis off as fact" and introducing extreme minority opinions. You probably have sources available to you that could add to it much better. I, in any case, if one user has his way, am likely to be effectively banned from contributing to Wikipedia as the vast bulk of the sources that are available to me here in Syria are in French and Arabic, and therefore, apparently, non-verifiable. Sorry to bother you... Palmiro | Talk 23:33, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

1948 War- Grand Mufti

I don't understand why you removed this statement- "The situation was not made easier by the fact that the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin al-Husayni, closely cooperated with the Nazi Germany during the Second World War." from the 1948 Arab-Israeli War [5] On the talk page you yourself commented that the Grand Mufti's wartime collaboration with the Nazis well known. Did you find a new and more reputable source, was it an accident, or do I just misunderstand? I would very much appreciate if you respond on my Talk page to help me understand, Thanks.- Moshe Constantine Hassan Al-Silverburg | Talk 09:02, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

Operation Litani

Can you please take a look at this article? Some users claim it is neutral to call Israel's presence a "presence" while calling Syria's presence an "occupation". Yuber^(talk) 03:13, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

1948 Arab-Israeli conflict

I won't protect it for now since it looks like the request was for it to stay unprotected for a day or two. I'll remove the request for now from the protection page. If in a day or two, you feel like it should be protected again, leave the request again. --Woohookitty^{(cat scratches)} 07:37, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

Eichmann edit

The Hudal info comes from both direct implication by Franz Stangl, as documented in the book referenced at the bottom of his article, and the book referenced in the Hudal article. Whether that's acceptable or not, I leave to you. Just wanted to answer your question, though. Hope that helps! --Girolamo Savonarola 22:01, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

Amin al-Husayni

Could you review my suggested addition at Talk:Amin al-Husayni? I believe I included all information that is made available and verified. As far as I can see, everything is both verifiable and notable. If you disagree, please let me know.

Heptor 23:25, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

A suggestion

Stop removing sourced info. You are welcome to add the other POV. Zeq 12:05, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

Stop adding racist material. Do you know how many messages from various groups to Israeli Jews I could add to the Israel page if I wanted to? --Zero 13:54, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

Assume good faith - is this policy (like 3RR) is hard for you to follow ? I am sure you can follow policy. If you think I am the one adding racist material, file an Rfa and get me banned from wikipedia. On the other hand you can assume good faith, try to understand why things are relevant even if they don't fir your POV and you are welcome to add other parts of the complex reality to the article. I added quotes, sourced material and don't you dare to remove such material. Zeq 15:13, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

Controversy

Zero, a controversy is "A dispute, especially a public one, between sides holding opposing views", while to be controversial is "Of, producing, or marked by controversy". Definitions are from dictionary.com. Hence, both the passage itself and you removing it are controversial. That cleared out, I am waiting in excitement for you to show the proof from primary sources that you promised. -- Heptor _talk 17:54, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

Lib

You mentionec a library in your research. WE need for verification to know what is this Lib. and how can we get hold of the tapes in this lib. You are trying to proove not that something exists but that something does not exists. This is a very hard task. I'll give you an example to find a solution to a list of equations one can proove that a solution exisst by showing that solution (it does not matter how one arrive to a solution just to put in the equations and show it is a solution to the equation set) on the other hand to proove that a solution does not exist one has to check all the possible solutions show that they do not fit or come up with clad iron proof that a solution can not be found. Usually a proof of that kind will give someone a Nobel price in math (Galua and Ferma are examples of such "proofs") so to proove that a sourced quote does not really exist you will need to come up with a very strong case. Just arguing "so and so said that it was on date X and I read the transcript of that day and did not find it" is not a proof. Maybe the date was wrong, Maybe the transcript was wrong, maybe you are wrong. We would need access to the same library to send someone to check your claim. Please identify the Library. Zeq 10:37, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

Zionist political violence

Are you serious? Unbehagen 16:23, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

I agree, the title needs to be changed back to terrorism. Avengerx 01:36, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

Palestine -> Palestine (disambiguation) and Palestine (region) -> Palestine

Is there currently a consensus for these moves (you know how controversial such a "move" would be)? You've been closely following these discussions, so you're in a better position to know. -- Dissident (Talk) 19:34, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

Palestinian garb

Thanks for your note and sorry about the late response. The sister is wearing a Palestinian dress (the two stripes on the skirt and the decorated sleeves and neck look like a Ramleh region dress), and Edward himself is wearing the solid white headdress and brown (I assume) Abayah usually worn by men, but I'm not sure about his vest or the dagger, which look more bedouin. It's clearly a "pose" picture and not something people wore daily. In any case, while it's safe to assume that the garb is Palestinian, I emailed Maha Saca in Bethlehem to get more info; she runs a heritage center which specializes in these sorts of things. I'll post more to the talk page of the Said article if I get more info. It seems like the person who was trying to change it to "Arab" has not done so in the past couple of days. Ramallite ^(talk) 15:11, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

Tora ?

[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Israel&diff=prev&oldid=33036477} - Tora maximum law of the country ? LOL LOL LOL. You sure know a lot about Israel don you ? maybe ask a local if this is true .

PS I now understand why you need those 13 hours to go through each and every one of my edits to find "example" to show your point. It is almost like those who count letters in the tora to prove their points - they have lots of time until they find "a proof".... Zeq 14:10, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

I guess for you it is already past midnight so I want to wish you a happy (and hopefully better) new year. Zeq 15:57, 31 December 2005 (UTC)