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WikiProject X Newsletter • Issue 5

Newsletter • October 2015

Hello there! Happy to be writing this newsletter once more. This month:

We did it!

In July, we launched five pilot WikiProjects: WikiProjects Cannabis, Evolutionary Biology, Ghana, Hampshire, and Women's Health. We also use the new design, named "WPX UI," on WikiProject Women in Technology, Women in Red, WikiProject Occupational Safety and Health. We are currently looking for projects for the next round of testing. If you are interested, please sign up on the Pilots page.

Shortly after our launch we presented at Wikimania 2015. Our slides are on Wikimedia Commons.

Then after all that work, we went through the process of figuring out whether we accomplished our goal. We reached out to participants on the redesigned WikiProjects, and we asked them to complete a survey. (If you filled out your survey—thank you!) While there are still some issues with the WikiProject tools and the new design, there appears to be general satisfaction (at least among those who responded). The results of the survey and more are documented in our grant report filed with the Wikimedia Foundation.

The work continues!

There is more work that needs to be done, so we have applied for a renewal of our grant. Comments on the proposal are welcome. We would like to improve what we have already started on the English Wikipedia and to also expand to Wikimedia Commons and Wikidata. Why those? Because they are multilingual projects and because there needs to be better coordination across Wikimedia projects. More details are available in the renewal proposal.

How can the Wikimedia Foundation support WikiProjects?

The Wikimedia Developer Summit will be held in San Francisco in January 2016. The recently established Community Tech team at the Wikimedia Foundation is interested in investigating what technical support they can provide for WikiProjects, i.e., support beyond just templates and bots. I have plenty of opinions myself, but I want to hear what you think. The session is being planned on Phabricator, the Wikimedia bug tracker. If you are not familiar with Phabricator, you can log in with your Wikipedia username and password through the "Login or Register: MediaWiki" button on the login page. Your feedback can help make editing Wikipedia a better experience.

Until next time,

Harej (talk) 09:03, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Rebecca_Spelman page

Hi Ww2censor

I'm curious as to why you marked a page I've only just created for deletion Rebecca_Spelman. This is about a living notable person and includes citations from online reliable sources such as The Voice, The Telegraph, and Channel4. I'm not sure why you wouldn't class those sources as reliable, or how more reliable it could be for a new article.

Paulcreedy (talk) 22:03, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

Disambiguation link notification for November 9

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JSTOR cleanup drive

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ArbCom elections are now open!

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The Queen of Ireland (film)

Hi, you contributed to the article The Queen of Ireland (film). you may be interested to know that there is a requested move (to "The Queen of Ireland") at Talk:The Queen of Ireland (film)#Requested move 14 December 2015. --Scolaire (talk) 11:59, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

Wilhelm Molly

Some of the links can be found on the equivalent pages on the other language versions. Jackiespeel (talk) 19:44, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

December 2015

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Edit Public Domain Source

Hi, you have removed the link http://blackwhite.io from the public domain resource site. You talk to me, that this site is licensed with cc0 and not with pd. So please go go creative commons and read the license text. PD ist tahe same as CC0. Or better say, CC0 is PD.

Best Regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rosistyles (talk • contribs) 10:00, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

image copyright

Hi there,

I am writing to you with respect to the review comment you posted at Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2016 January 17#File:Reza Moridi-offcial LR.jpg

" File:Reza Moridi -offcial LR.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by AIVIIR (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). this image is the exact same resolution as the one found here and there is no evidnece the uplaoder owns the copyright in which case an OTRS is needed. ww2censor (talk) 14:49, 17 January 2016 (UTC) "

It is the first time I am doing this and am a bit unfamiliar with the process. How can I provide the copyright? This is an image of the minister and I am his admin, for which the image is original and he has the copyright. I can have him write an email to confirm. Would that do solve the problem?

Thanks, - Amir — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.153.134.165 (talk) 14:55, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

@AIVIIR: @50.153.134.165: Unless you took the photo AND own the copyright you cannot upload it here without the copyright holder verifying their permission. Did you not notice the copyright notice at the bottom of the page you found the image on. Remember that the vast majority of images you will find on the internet are copyright to someone and must be clearly freely licenced for us to be able to use them. You may find it useful to read my image copyright information page. You should address all your comments to the deletion nomination page not here because no one else is likely to see them here. Thanks. ww2censor (talk) 15:52, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

WikiProject X Newsletter • Issue 6

Newsletter • January 2016

Hello there! Happy to be writing this newsletter once more. This month:

What comes next

Some good news: the Wikimedia Foundation has renewed WikiProject X. This means we can continue focusing on making WikiProjects better.

During our first round of work, we created a prototype WikiProject based on two ideas: (1) WikiProjects should clearly present things for people to do, and (2) The content of WikiProjects should be automated as much as possible. We launched pilots, and for the most part it works. But this approach will not work for the long term. While it makes certain aspects of running a WikiProject easier, it makes the maintenance aspects harder.

We are working on a major overhaul that will address these issues. New features will include:

• Creating WikiProjects by simply filling out a form, choosing which reports you want to generate for your project. This will work with existing bots in addition to the Reports Bot reports. (Of course, you can also have sections curated by humans.)
• One-click button to join a WikiProject, with optional notifications.
• Be able to define your WikiProject's scope within the WikiProject itself by listing relevant pages and categories, eliminating the need to tag every talk page with a banner. (You will still be allowed to do that, of course. It just won't be required.)

The end goal is a collaboration tool that can be used by WikiProjects but also by any edit-a-thon or group of people that want to coordinate on improving articles. Though implemented as an extension, the underlying content will be wikitext, meaning that you can continue to use categories, templates, and other features as you normally would.

This will take a lot of work, and we are just getting started. What would you like to see? I invite you to discuss on our talk page.

Until next time,

Harej (talk) 02:53, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

Rudhramadevi 2015

The image File:RDFilmPoster.jpg has a fair use rationale and is used exclusively for that article. KingDiggi (talk) 02:42, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

@KingDiggi: But unfortunately Ilaiyaraaja 2015 is a list article and non-free images are not permitted in lists per WP:NFLISTS. ww2censor (talk) 11:22, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

@Ww2censor:but all the Images used in the series of Ilaiyaraaja YYYY are a part of the discography and the posters are movies which increase the understandability of the article, and used to present the key visual aspect of the article. Strictly 1 image is used and essential for every yeared article, and the images are used judiciously, and strongly against vandalism of the article. KingDiggi (talk) 11:41, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

Yes, I hear you but it, and all the other similar uses, still fail WP:NFLISTS so should in fact be deleted. ww2censor (talk) 11:49, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

but, doesnt completely violate WP:NFLISTS 1. Its a digital work obtained/released to public by the owner of the image 2.below every image there is a description and a source cited 3.didnt understand 4.in this case it is exclusive and with a rationale 5.it represents a character of the movie 6.It is essential for the article. please reconsider KingDiggi (talk) 11:57, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

Shirley Walker

I got from the Batman Wikipedia on Shirley Walker. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ty45674 (talk • contribs) 06:28, 13 February 2016 (UTC)

@Ty45674: In that case you need to provide and add a unique URL for the webpage the image appears on so we can check its copyright status. Please add that information to the image as I don't need it here; reviewing editors need it on the image page File:Shirley Walker.jpeg. Also please sign your posts to talkpages per clear instructions in the edit note above. ww2censor (talk) 12:01, 13 February 2016 (UTC)

Can you do it for me? I'm new at this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ty45674 (talk • contribs) 13:18, 13 February 2016 (UTC)

How can I help you if you will not provide the source information with a unique url as perviously requested above? If you can add that detail here you can just as easily add it yourslef to the image page by editing that page. AND, as requested above in the edit notice and is my previous message you must remember to sign your talk page messages with four tildes, like this: ~~~~ Please read the replies carefully and just do it; it's not that hard. It's just like any other edit, thanks. ww2censor (talk) 16:51, 13 February 2016 (UTC)

WikiProject X Newsletter • Issue 7

Newsletter • February 2016

This month:

One database for Wikipedia requests

Development of the extension for setting up WikiProjects, as described in the last issue of this newsletter, is currently underway. No terribly exciting news on this front.

In the meantime, we are working on a prototype for a new service we hope to announce soon. The problem: there are requests scattered all across Wikipedia, including requests for new articles and requests for improvements to existing articles. We Wikipedians are very good at coming up with lists of things to do. But once we write these lists, where do they end up? How can we make them useful for all editors—even those who do not browse the missing articles lists, or the particular WikiProjects that have lists?

Introducing Wikipedia Requests, a new tool to centralize the various lists of requests around Wikipedia. Requests will be tagged by category and WikiProject, making it easier to find requests based on what your interests are. Accompanying this service will be a bot that will let you generate reports from this database on any wiki page, including WikiProjects. This means that once a request is filed centrally, it can syndicated all throughout Wikipedia, and once it is fulfilled, it will be marked as "complete" throughout Wikipedia. The idea for this service came about when I saw that it was easy to put together to-do lists based on database queries, but it was harder to do this for human-generated requests when those requests are scattered throughout the wiki, siloed throughout several pages. This should especially be useful for WikiProjects that have overlapping interests.

The newsletter this month is fairly brief; not a lot of news, just checking in to say that we are hard at work and hope to have more for you soon.

Until next time,

Harej (talk) 01:43, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

Catherine Fulvio

You should have seen it before. Murry1975 (talk) 11:18, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

The citations are not inline, just thrown together at the bottom so we don't know what verifies which statement. ww2censor (talk) 11:22, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

Article assessment

You seem to be the only person who does article assessments for the Irish articles. Believe it or not I am trying to learn from your comments too - I try to remember not to use ==Biography== but it creeps in when I copy an article which uses it and I forget to remove it....If you have any suggestions of things I can do to improve the articles do let me know. But mostly thank you for reviewing them.

It gives me a great sense of confidence that I'm not likely to create a total dud when I know you are checking through them as well. Thank you ☕ Antiqueight ^haver 13:55, 17 March 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for commenting. I've been assessing the Irish articles since July 2007 when just over 1,000 article had been tagged and it is now approaching 50,000. There used to be 3 or 4 others dong the job but they have dropped off. Mostly it's a thankless task. I don't know if you can learn much from my assessments as I now use the rater tool and it adds summary details by default. Normally any reasonably educated editor can be a decent judge of the class rating especially Stub or Start and GA and FA are defined by their own review/nomination process. Sometimes C and B-class are perhaps a bit more difficult to decide but importance ratings are rather subjective and should always be decided in relation to the totally of the Ireland project. I presume you have read Wikipedia:WikiProject Ireland/Assessment and its details of class and importance ratings. I don't see that you have yet joined the Wikipedia:WikiProject Ireland/Members which you should probably do it you are interested in Irish articles. I have seen many article with a main section called Biography when really the whole article is a biography so choosing a section header like Life and career, Life and work or just Life are alternatives. I also have User:AlexNewArtBot/IrelandSearchResult on my watchlist, where potential new Irish articles are listed, but I don't review it as much as I would like due to spending more time on the commons which also prevents me from writing new articles I want to. Just ask if you want some specific advise. BTW, I did a little rearranging of Josephine Ryan which you might want to review for better formatting. I'm not sure I would use the separate citation style for short articles like this one. ww2censor (talk) 00:01, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

Greetings - question

Again - thanks for assessing the articles. I'm curious though why Captain Otway Cuffe got a c-class but Máirín Cregan is start class? It would help to understand. ☕ Antiqueight ^haver 13:23, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

Aboutmovies who has more that 3 times my edits and is very productive has been here just a few months longer than I have, had already assessed it as a C-class so I did not reassess it. Class ratings are the same for all wikiprojects. I tend to be a bit conservative in assessing articles but remember that assessments are actually quite subjective. Re: Máirín Cregan, if it had more citations I would probably have given it a C. BTW, when uploading images you do not put the subject name in the non-free licence template. Fill it in with "|image has rationale=yes" if it has one a leave it blank per the template instruction. Also there is no need to thank me for each assessment but thanks. You seem to be doing a lot a work, good stuff, thanks. ww2censor (talk) 14:50, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

Oh - I hadn't noticed - I've come to assume you are the assessor since you do so many especially when your name pops about the same time :-) ! I just fill in the template in the Wikipedia:File Upload Wizard. I'll read through it more carefully when I use it again. I thought it was one of the mandatory fields. I usually only give as many citations as prove the statements, I probably could have given more. I thought it better not to overload - I'll take another look, thanks. ☕ Antiqueight ^haver 16:24, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

Not a problem. I seem to now be the only one concentrating on assessing Irish articles that find at Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Ireland articles by quality log. There used to be 4 or 5 people doing it. My assessment may be the first unless someone already adds the basic template or picks it up elsewhere and does it. I don't use the upload wizard but I think when you choose a fair-use historically significant image and from the licence the same drop down licence it shows the "|image has rationale=yes" in the licence it will attache but I think you have to add that after upload. Citation-wise less I suppose is better and there is no real reason to add more so long as there are enough to verify the statements. Cheers ww2censor (talk) 17:14, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

'Biography' vs. 'Life'

Hi User:Ww2censor. Please stop renaming 'Biography' sections to 'Life'. It is not correct that a biographical article as a whole is a biography as you seem to assume. I am, for instance, writing a lot of composer biographies. In the guidelines to WikiProjects Composers (Wikipedia:WikiProject_Composers#Sections) it is very clearly mentioned that these articles should consist of a 'Biography', followed by 'Music', 'Legacy' etc., whatever is appropriate. I changed back a few of the articles I feel responsible for, but you should generally refrain from editing this. – Aklein62 (talk) 09:32, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

That convention must be a Project Composer's only guideline. I've not seen it mentioned elsewhere as a requirement for a header title. To me biographical and biography are just the noun and adjective of the same concept even if you disagree. Many other articles use "Life and work," Life and career" or some such header, when there is not enough prose to provide more sections. But as you wish, I just won't bother with such articles. BTW, with your German and Irish music interest, are you familiar with Fritz Brase seeing as he is mentioned elsewhere and has a dewiki page at de:Fritz Brase? He should really have an article. I may even have an old photo or two that I can get when I visit Ireland next. ww2censor (talk) 11:51, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

Fine, thank you. As to Fritz Brase, yes, he is on my list for the next few weeks (say, May/June). When it's done, feel free to add the photo. I don't have any. – Aklein62 (talk) 12:43, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

@Aklein62: There seems to be a decent bit about him online such as this RTÉ Radio documentary. ww2censor (talk) 15:48, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

Eliza Schneider

There is no way Eliza Schneider was born in 1978. That would make her a 12yo college student and a 16yo college grad (UCLA 1994). And she was definitely over 16 when she was on Beakman. 1972 seems much more realistic. I've seen 1972 on other sites. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.248.159.105 (talk) 17:31, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

So are these three bio [1], [2] and [3] and others all wrong? Do you have a reliable source for your 1972 statement? If so please provide it but I can't find anything to support 1972 but f you can I'll be happy to go with it. ww2censor (talk) 18:07, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

Can you help me get this image onto wikipedia?

http://russia.wikia.com/wiki/File:Lets_get_married_from_youtube_2008_show.png

It is from: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tXAXPkzL4g

Thank you Moscowamerican (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 07:19, 17 April 2016 (UTC)

Well I'm sorry but no, I can't help you, so let me explain. You joined and uploaded that image onto russia.wikia today but the original YouTube video is not freely licensed. Look at the licence; when you click the "MORE INFO" button you see the license is the "Standard YouTube License" and it does not state "reuse allowed" so we will cannot accept it here. It is most likely copyright to the production company or TV station. Even though wikia is freely licensed the image you uploader there is a copyright violation and should be removed. Sorry to not have better news for you. ww2censor (talk) 09:16, 17 April 2016 (UTC)

WikiProject X Newsletter • Issue 8

Newsletter • March / April 2016

This month:

Transclude article requests anywhere on Wikipedia

In the last issue of the WikiProject X Newsletter, I discussed the upcoming Wikipedia Requests system: a central database for outstanding work on Wikipedia. I am pleased to announce Wikipedia Requests is live! Its purpose is to supplement automatically generated lists, such as those from SuggestBot, Reports bot, or Wikidata. It is currently being demonstrated on WikiProject Occupational Safety and Health (which I work on as part of my NIOSH duties) and WikiProject Women scientists.

Adding a request is as simple as filling out a form. Just go to the Add form to add your request. Adding sources will help ensure that your request is fulfilled more quickly. And when a request is fulfilled, simply click "mark as complete" and it will be removed from all the lists it's on. All at the click of a button! (If anyone is concerned, all actions are logged.)

With this new service is a template to transclude these requests: {{Wikipedia Requests}}. It's simple to use: add the template to a page, specifying article=, category=, or wikiproject=, and the list will be transcluded. For example, for requests having to do with all living people, just do {{Wikipedia Requests|category=Living people}}. Use these lists on WikiProjects but also for edit-a-thons where you want a convenient list of things to do on hand. Give it a shot!

Help us build our list!

The value of Wikipedia Requests comes from being a centralized database. The long work to migrating individual lists into this combined list is slowly underway. As of writing, we have 883 open tasks logged in Wikipedia Requests. We need your help building this list.

If you know of a list of missing articles, or of outstanding tasks for existing articles, that you would like to migrate to this new system, head on over to Wikipedia:Wikipedia Requests#Transition project and help out. Doing this will help put your list in front of more eyes—more than just your own WikiProject.

An open database means new tools

WikiProject X maintains a database that associates article talk pages (and draft talk pages) with WikiProjects. This database powers many of the reports that Reports bot generates. However, until very recently, this database was not made available to others who might find its data useful. It's only common sense to open up the database and let others build tools with it.

And indeed: Citation Hunt, the game to add citations to Wikipedia, now lets you filter by WikiProject, using the data from our database.

Are you a tool developer interested in using this? Here are some details: the database resides on Tool Labs with the name s52475__wpx_p. The table that associates WikiProjects with articles and drafts is called projectindex. Pages are stored by talk page title but in the future this should change. Have fun!

On the horizon

• The work on the CollaborationKit extension continues. The extension will initially focus on reducing template and Lua bloat on WikiProjects (especially our WPX UI demonstration projects), and will from there create custom interfaces for creating and maintaining WikiProjects.
• The WikiCite meeting will be in Berlin in May. The goal of the meeting is to figure out how to build a bibliographic database for use on the Wikimedia projects. This fits in quite nicely with WikiProject X's work: we want to make it easier for people to find things to work on, and with a powerful, open bibliographic database, we can build recommendations for sources. This feature was requested by the Wikipedia Library back in September, and this meeting is a major next step. We look forward to seeing what comes out of this meeting.

Until next time,

Harej (talk) 01:29, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

Teamwork.com - articles for deletion [4]

Hi there,

I work for Teamwork.com and noticed that our Wiki page has been nominated for deletion. I've read over the links from SwisterTwister talk Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Log/2016_May_20#Teamwork.com but I am still unsure about what I need to do up to update this page to prevent it from being deleted.

Your comment was "My searches have found several links throughout the years from News and browsers but still nothing to suggest the applicable notability and nothing from the current article is also better convincing." Can you let me know what "still nothing to suggest the applicable notability and nothing from the current article is also better convincing" means?

I've also read the Deletion Policy Wikipedia:Deletion policy but still can't figure out which one of the 14 reasons is applicable to our page.

I'll start work on editing the page today, but if there is any specific that I need to do, can you let me know?

Thanks. 93.107.237.21 (talk) 13:36, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

Yes indeed, the reason is that there are no suitable source that confirm the company's notability, so firstly because you work for company you have a clear conflict of interest and should not be editing that article. Second, if there are errors or information from reliable sources you should post that on the talk page and ask a non-conflicted editor to see if your details are appropriate. I've commented on the deletion nomination page and you can, and should, post your comments there, as no one interested in it is likely to pick it up here on my talk page. BTW it was SwisterTwister, not me, who made the comments you posted above. Good luck. ww2censor (talk) 17:03, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

Want to update

This is my picture I took of this model I didn't take it from no website

https://pixabay.com/en/model-bahari-ibaadat-1411705/

How do I upload it ? Haroonazizi (talk) 01:39, 25 May 2016 (UTC)

2016 Wikimedia Foundation Executive Director Search Community Survey

The Board of Trustees of the Wikimedia Foundation has appointed a committee to lead the search for the foundation’s next Executive Director. One of our first tasks is to write the job description of the executive director position, and we are asking for input from the Wikimedia community. Please take a few minutes and complete this survey to help us better understand community and staff expectations for the Wikimedia Foundation Executive Director.

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WikiProject X Newsletter • Issue 9

Newsletter • May / June 2016

Check out this month's issue of the WikiProject X newsletter, featuring the first screenshot of our new CollaborationKit software!

Harej (talk) 00:23, 25 June 2016 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free revisions

Hi Ww2censor. Just for the record, I did not tag File:InacioFortaleza.png with Template:Di-orphaned fair use; I tagged it with Template:Orphaned non-free revisions. If you read the latter template, you'll see that it says "The previous version(s) of this file are non-free. The older revision(s) are no longer being used in articles, and therefore fail the Wikipedia non-free content criteria. The current version will not be deleted, only previous revision(s)." -- Marchjuly (talk) 10:45, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

Image mashups

Apologies for continually bothering you, but you seem willing to help. It seems the extracted from template doesn't support multiple source images, specifically in reference to this image, which is a combination of two images already on commons. Is there another template that supports a combination of images? TimothyJosephWood 13:51, 27 July 2016 (UTC)

This is not an extracted image but a derived image, so I've fixed it but I also tried to use an extracted but as you say it did not work but {{image extracted|1= |2= }} c:Template:Image extracted does work. Try it in a sandbox. ww2censor (talk) 14:06, 27 July 2016 (UTC)

Irl Project

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:The_Young_Messiah_(musical)&oldid=prev&diff=732642903

Ok WW, didn't spot that. Sarah777 (talk) 21:16, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, sometime our fingers are just a bit too fast and we miss someting like that. It happens. No problem. ww2censor (talk) 21:20, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

More mass deletions?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/1250_in_Ireland Have your say! Sarah777 (talk) 18:46, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

Thanks WW - just wish some others would help expand/beef-up this series; it's easy, there is a lot of material - but a big job for just one editor! Sarah777 (talk) 22:41, 13 September 2016 (UTC)

@Sarah777: Actually I looked for something to add to 1250_in_Ireland but could not easily find anything. BTW, this looks right up your street: http://wikilovesmonuments.ie/ Maybe you have some already or can get out and about to bag some of them close by you. ww2censor (talk) 23:22, 13 September 2016 (UTC)

I'm not much into competitions! But can you guess where/what this is....

Sarah777 (talk) 23:51, 13 September 2016 (UTC)

Actually no, I don't know this place exactly but I probably passed it is an earlier life. Before looking at the file page I presumed it might be south west Co Dublin or even north Co Wicklow, so I was not too far off. Nice shot but for me I could possibly do with a little more saturation and I like the 3/4 backlight. Are you using RAW files as that makes keeping details better than jpeg? Regarding the wikilovesmonuments, don't think about it as a competition as it's just a way of encouraging photographers to contribute shots, like you do, but within a short time span. I've been out trying to fill in some missing images on this list. Cheers ww2censor (talk) 09:05, 14 September 2016 (UTC)

It could do with a bit of light adjustment...but like most of my shots it comes straight from a Canon on "auto" mode! I will work on editing :) Sarah777 (talk) 00:12, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

Bit of advice needed...

Hi WW. was looking at the Brittas Bay article and much of it seemed to be taken up by a blog on the local bus service! I removed some stuff - but now am looking at more:

[5]

Public dissatisfaction over removal of stop from route 2

"Until the end of September 2012 Bus Éireann route 2 used to stop at Jack White's Cross numerous times each day. There was considerable public dissatisfaction with the decision as the bus provides a useful link to hospitals as well as for commuting and leisure purposes. The stop at Jack White's Cross was reinstated in the route 2 timetable from 25 August 2013 (inclusive). "

Am tempted to remove all of it...seems more like current affairs that material for a "place" article. Any views? Sarah777 (talk) 22:01, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

References

I'm inclined to agree with you but I would try to replace it with some useful cited prose. As it stands it is really not encyclopaedic. In fact the whole article is rather a mess so I moved some stuff around. It needs more citations and maybe some of the older travel books at archive.org or books.google.com will have some details that might be useful. BTW, I'm not sure if you knnow about using {{reflist-talk}} that I added here. ww2censor (talk) 22:19, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

Thanks WW - no, I didn't know about {{reflist-talk}}! Sarah777 (talk) 22:21, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

@Sarah777: Irish Times article seems useful, this has some archaeology info (I have jstor access if you need me to send you the pdf), this google search throws up several topics on Brittas Bay, such as coastal erosion, Jack White's and other topics that are better the storm in a teacup bus controversy. Good luck. ww2censor (talk) 22:55, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

Forgot to mention: that photo is of a military graveyard in The Curragh; came across it a couple of years ago - astonished - lived near there and had been on the Curragh a thousand times and never seen it till then! Sarah777 (talk) 23:02, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

Just came across the murder of Elizabeth Plunkett in 1976 in Brittas Bay; details in this book. ww2censor (talk) 23:07, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

And Jack White's pub, at the turn-off the old N11 is commonly known as the "Murder pub" after an infamous case in, I think, the 1980s! Sarah777 (talk) 23:36, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

Thanks WW. Another opinion I'd like...this is in the County Cork article (and similar abominations in many other geo-located articles):

Seems ugly and basically pointless to me! Any opinion? Sarah777 (talk) 23:33, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

Indeed, but I'd suggest asking at the Ireland wikproject to more input. I'm not sure how useful these are. It's used in more than 21,000 pages. Sorry got to hit the leaba. ww2censor (talk) 23:38, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

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I probably could rate the articles but I do feel better with someone checking them to be sure they actually have value and no glaring errors (forgotten/broken citations etc). I worry about notability sometimes..So I really appreciate the work you do reviewing them and adding the class rating. Thank you ☕ Antiqueight ^haver 11:59, 8 October 2016 (UTC)

That's fine too, however, citations and notability don't really affect the class rating, and errors too are really a content issue that are usually considered separately from assessments. Obviously as one gets to higher class articles such matters are important and get picked on but at the stub and start level, its really just the quantity of prose that determine its class and getting into the appropriate projects. You might be interested in the project statistics. Whatever you have been doing is great so thanks for all your hard work in starting new articles of Irish interest even if you feel unhappy doing assessments. Good job. ww2censor (talk) 13:43, 8 October 2016 (UTC)

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Look what I came across in my wiki-travels.... [6] Except where I think an IriProj "upgrade" is a marginal I've taken to doing the same...in most cases it is pretty obvious. I will not. of course, go as far as to say you were right ;) Sarah777 (talk) 19:20, 14 October 2016 (UTC)

That's a bit old but I was pretty sure it was somewhere. My brain does sometimes remember stuff from too long ago; I'm sure I could walk you around Mac OS 6.08 from 1988! BTW, did you see Wikipedia:WikiProject Ireland/WLM Ireland 2016 Writing Contest? There are several article ideas I'm sure might interest you without being concerned that it is a contest. ww2censor (talk) 22:04, 14 October 2016 (UTC)

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Hi Ww2censor. You tagged a bunch of files uploaded by Special:Contributions/ADunwoody07 with "npd" templates which seems to have been related to your discussion with him at WP:MCQ. Anyway, the editor has updated the information for the relevant files, and removed the tags. Even though this was done in good faith, I still think this is insufficient proof and have re-added the tag to one of the files. I did not re-add the others because I am wondering if you wouldn't mind re-checking them to see if they are now OK. -- Marchjuly (talk) 23:26, 13 October 2016 (UTC)

@Marchjuly: Currently all the remaining images are tagged in some way. My concern, after they removed the tag, was that the author name and uploader name did not match, their first edits gave a different name as the copyright holder, and their user page give no indication of any connection. They may well be the same but we would need verification, so maybe an OTRS email would be best. Fastily has nominated some for deletion and I have commented there as well as placing the notices that Fastily failed to do on the users talk page, as well as reiterating the need for verification per WP:CONSENT. Thanks ww2censor (talk) 09:50, 14 October 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for checking these files again. I have seen that some of them have been nominated for discussion at FFD, so things will eventually be sorted out one way or another. -- Marchjuly (talk) 23:55, 14 October 2016 (UTC)

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Hi @Fastily: I did not know that you had a bot doing that for you. I think it's Twinkle that does all the notifications for me when I start a nomination. But thanks and it's good to see you are doing some constructive work again even though you don't have the brush to finish off the jobs. And thanks @Marchjuly: for working on these. ww2censor (talk) 09:04, 15 October 2016 (UTC)

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Dáire Sarah777 (talk) 22:25, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

No idea. I did find this (see halfway down the page), even if I understood it I would not know what to do with it, or the article. ww2censor (talk) 09:27, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

OK - here is what I hope is a simpler case; George Lee (journalist). This is (to my utter disbelief), rated as a GA. Perhaps that is a symptom of the time it was rated (2010), when George was not just giving the news but 'was' the news?

I reckon it would be a "C" at best. Sarah777 (talk) 23:24, 29 October 2016 (UTC)

Well I read the article and as it is a GA, it would need a WP:GAR to demote it and that does happen. I updated several source links but there are now around 10 dead links that need updating. It does not appear to have been touched significantly since then so the last 5 years are entirely missing. I think it's better than a C, maybe a B, but if you want to start a GAR, even if only to experience one, let me know. Maybe even ask HJ Mitchell, the GA reviewer, what he thinks of it 6 years later. ww2censor (talk) 11:56, 30 October 2016 (UTC)

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Yes, I checked each one and saw at least one not working. So I went back to a safe place. Your sarcasm is not helpful/appreciated. Hmains (talk) 19:30, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

With this edit you gave the distinct impression you had checked the two links you reverted, so my AGF revert summary merely questioned your edit summary. If you regard that as sarcasm perhaps you are just a bit too sensitive when you are questioned, but anyway apologies if that's the case. Generally I expect a summary to be factual. In fact neither url you reverted to worked and I must admit that at first sight I though the url has been vandalised but it appears the domain may have been hijacked, so they moved to a different but similar one. ww2censor (talk) 00:04, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

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Believe me it's not unbelievable, several people have uploaded image they claimed were freely licensed but on closer investigation all have proved to have dubious copyright status or definitely been in copyright. I have searched several possible locations, such as the Library of Congress, US White House and Netherland's Nationaal Archief website to name a few. I actually think I have been lucky to find some images such as these which have eluded us for several years:

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• File:Séan Lemass in the Netherlands 1958 (cropped).jpg
• File:Séan Lemass at Schiphol Airport (cropped).jpg
• File:US visit of Taoiseach Costello in 1956 (cropped).jpg
• File:Garret FitzGerald-Oval Office-Patricks Day 1976.jpg
• File:Taoiseach Liam Cosgrave-Patricks Day 1976.jpg
• File:Irish Tánaiste Dick Spring at the White House, 16 Nov 1993.jpg

but none for Erskine Hamilton Childers and Cearbhall Ó Dálaigh. If you do find something you think might be freely licenced please let me know. Cheers ww2censor (talk) 17:50, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

I didn't have any idea that its so difficult to find free images of Childers and Ó Dálaigh. Of course, you have far more experience with this than myself, so I have no problem to believe your judgement. Also, I saw free images of Irish politicians which you found so far. I can only congratulate you on that, and encourage you to continue in the same way... In the end, I must ask you about a separate issue - there are many free images of Rhodesian politicians, but none of two politicians which served as the President of Rhodesia (Clifford Dupont and John Wrathall). I wonder, would it be possible to find some free images of them? --Sundostund (talk) 20:11, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the compliment. My interest is primarity in Irish topics, so unless I was familiar with Rhodesian topics I really have no idea where to even look for images of these two people. Missing free images is a problem that never seems to get any easier no matter how long I deal with copyright issues here and on the commons. ww2censor (talk) 22:27, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

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Hello. The user here is wanting to know whether or not the USPS logo would be in the public domain since it is a government entity... They're trying to put it in Political appointments of Donald Trump but since it is listed as non-free, I've removed it from the article with the IP re-inserting it into the article. Hope this helps you out. Corkythehornetfan (ping me) 18:36, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

Hello. On this page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_appointments_of_Donald_Trump Political appointments of Donald Trump some one is taking away United States Postal Service Logo and he thinks it's a copyright and if it is all the other logo's are a copyright also right? if this logo File:United States Postal Service Logo.svg is not a copyright can you please add it back on there and try to lock it in place so people don't try to delate it? Thanks so much — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.36.68.29 (talk • contribs)

@Corkythehornetfan and 96.36.68.29: Both of you sould have continued the discussion on the WP:MCQ page so other knowledgeable editors could have had the opportunity to respond but here goes. While the text is clearly not copyright in the US, the complex eagle design certainly passes the threshold of originality which is why it is here on the enwiki as a non-free image and not on the commons, and as such it use MUST comply with all 10 non-free media policy guidelines. It can really only be used in an article about that organisation, USPS, which is no longer a government department, and it clearly fails WP:NFCC when added to Political appointments of Donald Trump. It's very clear cut, so it should not be readded to that article. ww2censor (talk) 19:26, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

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Pictures for the article on Silvia Șerbescu

Thank you for your offer of help for the uploading of picture material.

My ambition was to create an article of the same quality and information value as the one about Cella Delavrancea, which I took as an example. The pictures were taken from the family archive kept by her daughter, Liana Șerbescu, presently living in the Netherlands. I thought the logical place to upload them would be WikiMedia. However, as you were able to notice by reading my discussion with Jim, they were deleted. So I can no longer link to them, they are only available on hard copy.

Besides the four pictures whose origin and history is described in my discussion with Jim quoted above, Mrs Șerbescu has in her archive a few photos made by her father. I suppose this should not cause any problem.

About the bust of her mother made by the sculptor George Anghel, I should add that she possesses a photo made by the sculptor himself, bearing date and signature, offered to her to be used in any publication about her mother. Unfortunately this was done orally, there is no document to prove this gift in intellectual property. This is how things were done back then, when intellectual property was treated in common sense terms - knowing that if someone told you it was OK to use, you could trust them not to sue you later.

So you see I really need to be guided on the subject of getting all this material into the article. It is material that is only accessible in Mrs Șerbescu archive (excepting Anghel's sculpture, which is on Wikipedia), one photo having been taken 90 years ago at a studio that ceased to exist 80 years ago and some others by anonymous friends. Is there a way to populate the article with such material?

Thanks again — looking forward to your answer. Jpkent (talk) 16:16, 30 April 2017 (UTC)

Actually you have rather repeated much of what is on Jim's page and I already read it there. Anyway, if Liana Șerbescu has images that were taken by her father, then I presume she is the heir and can license those images as she wishes, in which case they can be uploaded to the commons. Were any of these ones that were already deleted from the commons? It did not seem like that was the case. This information affects the situation regarding the use of any non-free image whose copyright permission you do not have because we don't accept non-free images if a freely licensed image is available, even if the image is not the best quality. This is a very important point you must clarify first.

If you only have access non-free images, you may only upload one image, so choose the best one, and let me know, so I can make sure the correct information for a non-free rationale is completed or you could email it to me when you are ready and I'll do it for you. Unfortunately the sculpture image is a non starter unless the sculptor died more than 70 years ago but Jim already told you that. Answer the first question and we can go from there. ww2censor (talk) 16:42, 30 April 2017 (UTC)

BTW, I looked at the article and there are some problems. We do not use urls for links to other wiki article but use a wikilink instead, so I've tried to fix the ones I see. I've left a few as interwiki links to the RO articles. Also, normally, we only link once to another article and not multiple times, so you may want to look at that. Another problem is the use ibid see WP:IBID, we just don't because, if an editors places another reference between two of them, the ibid gets broken and now looks like it belongs to a different source; we use a "ref name" and the repeat that in the second position, so read the 2nd paragraph of this page Wikipedia:Inline citation#Ref tags. Where specific facts come from one of the listed sources you use should use that inline and not as a separate source which is for other sources not used in the article itself. ww2censor (talk) 17:19, 30 April 2017 (UTC)