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June 2009

You should wait for others to write an article about subjects in which you are personally involved, as you did at Wirtland‎. This applies to articles about you, your achievements, your band, your business, your publications, your website, your relatives, and any other possible conflict of interest.

Creating an article about yourself is strongly discouraged. If you create such an article, it might be listed on articles for deletion. Deletion is not certain, but many feel strongly that you should not start articles about yourself. This is because independent creation encourages independent validation of both significance and verifiability. All edits to articles must conform to Wikipedia:No original research, Wikipedia:Neutral point of view, and Wikipedia:Verifiability.

If you are not "notable" under Wikipedia guidelines, creating an article about yourself may violate the policy that Wikipedia is not a personal webspace provider and would thus qualify for speedy deletion. If your achievements, etc., are verifiable and genuinely notable, and thus suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia, someone else will probably create an article about you sooner or later. (See Wikipedia:Wikipedians with articles.) Thank you. You should consider changing your username. RadioFan (talk) 13:01, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Articles for deletion nomination of Wirtland

I have nominated Wirtland, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Wirtland. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.

Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. RadioFan (talk) 21:31, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Wirtland

Sorry? I have no opinion on the contest itself, so to be honest I'm not quite sure why you're trying to convince me. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 00:31, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. Please don't forget to provide an edit summary for your edits. Thank you. Yopie 11:41, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

If you have a close connection to some of the people, places or things you have written about in the article Wirtland (micronation), you may have a conflict of interest. In keeping with Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy, edits where there is a conflict of interest, or where such a conflict might reasonably be inferred from the tone of the edit and the proximity of the editor to the subject, are strongly discouraged. If you have a conflict of interest, you should avoid or exercise great caution when:

1. editing or creating articles related to you, your organization, or its competitors, as well as projects and products they are involved with;
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Please familiarize yourself with relevant policies and guidelines, especially those pertaining to neutral point of view, verifiability of information, and autobiographies.

For information on how to contribute to Wikipedia when you have conflict of interest, please see our frequently asked questions for organizations. For more details about what, exactly, constitutes a conflict of interest, please see our conflict of interest guidelines. Thank you. Yopie 11:42, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Wirtland (micronation)

A tag has been placed on Wirtland (micronation) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be a blatant copyright infringement. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words.

If the external website belongs to you, and you want to allow Wikipedia to use the text — which means allowing other people to modify it — then you must verify that externally by one of the processes explained at Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials. If you are not the owner of the external website but have permission from that owner, see Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission. You might want to look at Wikipedia's policies and guidelines for more details, or ask a question here.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. ukexpat (talk) 18:15, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Copyright problem: Wirtland (micronation)

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia! We welcome and appreciate your contributions, such as Wirtland (micronation), but we regretfully cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from either web sites or printed material. This article appears to be a copy from http://www.wirtland.com/, and therefore a copyright violation. The copyrighted text has been or will soon be deleted. While we appreciate contributions, we must require all contributors to understand and comply with our copyright policy. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously, and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

If you believe that the article is not a copyright violation, or if you have permission from the copyright holder to release the content freely under allowance license, then you should do one of the following:

• If you have permission from the author leave a message explaining the details at Talk:Wirtland (micronation) and send an email with confirmation of permission to "permissions-en (at) wikimedia (dot) org". See Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission for instructions.
• If a note on the original website states that re-use is permitted ''under the GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL), versions 1.3 or later and Creative Commons Share Alike (CC-BY-SA), versions 3.0 or later, under CC-BY-SA, versions 3.0 or later, or that the material is released into the public domain leave a note at Talk:Wirtland (micronation) with a link to where we can find that note.
• If you own the copyright to the material: send an e-mail from an address associated with the original publication to permissions-en(at)wikimedia(dot)org or a postal message to the Wikimedia Foundation permitting re-use under the GFDL and CC-BY-SA, and note that you have done so on Talk:Wirtland (micronation). See Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials for instructions.

It may also be necessary for the text be modified to have an encyclopedic tone and to follow Wikipedia article layout. For more information on Wikipedia's policies, see Wikipedia's policies and guidelines.

If you would like to begin working on a new version of the article you may do so at this temporary page. Leave a note at Talk:Wirtland (micronation) saying you have done so and an administrator will move the new article into place once the issue is resolved. Thank you, and please feel welcome to continue contributing to Wikipedia. Happy editing! Think you already know all that but following procedure. Dpmuk (talk) 20:09, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

It is your right to blank my content. However, I've fulfilled every instruction I received: placed explanations on entry discussion page; requested an urgent permission from copyright holder to be sent to permissions-commons@wikimedia.org; the references to the original source have been inserted in every appropriate paragraph, when texts in Wikipedia entry corresponded to text in Wirtland website ("according to official site"). I hope your copyright department will receive the permission soon and will unblock my content. Let me know if there are any other problems found in Wirtland entry and we will do our best to solve them. Witizen (talk) 20:34, 30 June 2009 (UTC)Witizen

Although I'm not an expect on what happens now my understanding is that it will stay in its current state until the permission is recieved so as to protect wikipedia against legal problems if you don't have permission. I belive it normally takes a few days for everything to sort itself out. I've posted on the relevant notice board and someone more experienced will hopefully be along shortly. I'm sure you understand why wikipedia needs to protect itself in this way. Rest assured that all your content is still there - it's just hidden. Dpmuk (talk) 21:16, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Permission received, copy follows: Witizen (talk) 08:06, 1 July 2009 (UTC)Witizen

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Original Message ----- From: Wirtland

To: permissions-commons@wikimedia.org Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 11:49 PM Subject: texts used in the Wikipedia article

Dear Wikipedia,

We welcome the publication of articles about Wirtland in Wikipedia.

We were informed that the article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wirtland_(micronation) was nominated for 'speedy deletion' in connection with a potential infringement of copyright.

I am writing to confirm hereby that Government of Wirtland has no objections regarding the use of text and images, originally published on Wirtland's official website www.wirtland.com, in Wikipedia.

I hope this official statement will effectively resolve the questions of copyright, so that article on Wirtland will be restored in its original form.

Should you need additional information or clarification, do not hesitate to contact our office. Please accept our friendly good wishes to Wikipedia.

With kind regards,

Cristopher Luengo

PR Attache

Foreign Office

Government of Wirtland

WIRTLAND

Witizen (talk) 08:06, 1 July 2009 (UTC)Witizen

Citation templates

When adding references to an article, could you please try and use citation templates? They make life easier for everyone, as editors can easily add new information to the reference and keep track of what's what within it. Could you also try to add the "|language=" parameter when adding foreign language sources, so the reader knows what to expect? Thanks and happy editing! Greg Tyler ^{(t • c)} 13:22, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for this. Already done that in my last new reference. FYI, Slavic is a language group. Slovakian is a single language. Same difference between Turkic and Turkish. Witizen (talk) 13:39, 2 July 2009 (UTC)Witizen.

Please assume good faith, be civil and remember that you don't own articles pages

Please could you be more careful with the way you post stuff to talk pages. In particular I refer to this edit. You should always WP:AGF and the speedy tag clearly said it was for housekeeping purposes. You are still quite new to Wikipedia and should asusme that something like this was done for a good reason - the tag even referenced the discussion so it wasn't like anyone was trying to do something behind your back. As you have been informed before you don't own any article on wikipedia so it's perfectly acceptable for someone to add a speedy deletion tag even if you do disagree with it. Your post verges on not being civil in using bold and seeming to assume that the speedy tag was being placed for incorrect reasons or to annoy you. It would have been more appropiate for you to have posted, either on the article talk page or on the talk page of the editor who did the tagging, asking them nicely to explain their action. I suggest you read the policies linked to in this post and remember that you're new to wikipedia and that things may be being done for reason's you don't understand, be they for technical reasons or due to a policy you're unaware of. Thank you. Dpmuk (talk) 15:09, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

To be fair, I understand Witizen's concerns. In Wikipedia, you're encouraged to be bold and do what you feel is right. You're not supposed to know all the rules before starting to edit, and you learn the rules a lot quicker if you just do what you think is right, and learn from your mistakes. In this case, there was no harm done, no feelings hurt, and I trust you learned something new about how things work here (if it still doesn't make sense, don't hesistate to drop a question at my talk page). Welcome to Wikipedia. Jafeluv (talk) 19:07, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Re: Wirtland/Witizen

Hi again! To clarify a little: it's not actually forbidden by Wikipedia policy for an involved admin to perform a move. It's just usually not done in controversial cases because it would probably be disputed. So if it's not a controversial move, there's no problem in an uninvolved admin performing the move.

You say that Wirtland's PR asked you to take care of the page. If this is the case, I encourage you to read our conflict of interest guideline. In general, editors are discouraged from editing articles whose subjects they are personally involved with, because this involvement makes it difficult to strive for a neutral point of view, among other things. Editors with a conflict of interest are welcome to suggest changes on the article's talk page, however. I hope you understand. Jafeluv (talk) 20:16, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Ok, just making sure you know about the guideline. I'm sure someone will move the page soon enough. Jafeluv (talk) 21:00, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Nomination of Wirtland (micronation) for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Wirtland (micronation) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Wirtland (micronation) (2nd nomination) until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished.

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