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p.s. your query has been moved to User talk:FT2#Ask for unprotected article

John Vandenberg ^(chat) 04:10, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Your question has an answer there. FT2 ^{(Talk | email)} 07:21, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Talk:MIPRO

I have tagged the above for speedy deletion because you have created a talk page of an article that does not exist. If you would like to ask a question in relation to Wikipedia go here since your a new user or you can contact an administrator from this page. I have noticed above FT2 has edited your page, it maybe a wise idea to get in touch with him again. Thank You 137.154.16.30 (talk) 05:51, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Need advise

hello ~ I try to accomplish "MIPRO" title which has been protected and can edit by administers only. just don't know how to start it. I used their microphone before ; really love this brand. - plus, I found so many relevant information about this brand to establish this subject. Somehow,it seems like this title has been destroyed already - no way to edit it. a little bit depress...

I found you from the list of assistant editor. My writing is not good enough and not really familiar with wikipedia policy, but I found good sources about this subject. hopefully we can work togher to accomplish this project. If you are intested in pro audio article, you can visit their website at www.mipro.com.tw and do some research from google. - you will find that this subject is deserved to list.

hope to hear your feedback soon. ~ Have a good day ! --Wilson0324 (talk) 03:06, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

The article in question has been deleted several times, which doesn't look good. However, having looked at the article there may be a credible claim to notability that might have been overlooked. Either that, or the claim is not accurate. The article claims that ACT 〝Automatic Channel Targeting〞 is a world first technology, and that the ACT function is the most intelligent wireless system channel set-up feature and is fast becoming a pro-audio industry standard. A bold claim. What is needed now are references which support those claims. I found this - [1] - which leads nowhere, but this and this use wording which borders on supporting the claim, and suggests further research might be worthwhile. SilkTork *^YES! 08:40, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

There's also this - [2]. However, most of what I am finding is press releases - or reworded versions of the company's press release. That source, for exaple, appears to use the company press release, and simply reports the company's claims rather than supporting them. It's worth reading Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies) to see if Mipro meets the requirements there. I am struggling to find secure enough reliable sources that have written about Mipro. The company exists, and it clearly produces audio equipment. What is not clear, when the company's own statements have been discounted, is the company's true status.

If you can provide me with some reliable sources that support the company's claims then I will assist you in writing up the article to Wikipedia standard. Get in touch when you have those sources. Regards SilkTork *^YES! 11:21, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Thank you SilkTork & great to hear from your suggestions. I spent a little bit time for MIPRO research as below: Audio Video consultant, Gary Kayye, commented top 6 new company from InfoComm2008 - 1 MIPRO relevant news, mostly from interview - 2 Audio Pro March issue 2009 from Indonesian,3 Pro Audio Middle East May-June 2006 from Chinese,4 Economic Daily News from Chinese,5 e technology asia July/Aug 2008, 6 United Daily News 2008/07/05. also, I found their product review MIPRO ACT-82 7 MIPRO ACT-82, and TEC Award nomination 8 TEC Award nomination. 9 Pro Sound News Europe -reports David Davies /March 2008 So far, I found those information - It's time consuming. please check first to see if it's okay for the reference. please let me know your thoughts - thank you ~--Wilson0324 (talk) 09:48, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

I'll take a look at the sources and check back with you. SilkTork *^YES! 16:58, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

What we are looking for is something that says the company is notable. I've taken a look, and there's certainly stuff which is on the borderline. It could be that an accumulation of this material will be enough.

• Gary Kayye, commented top 6 new company from InfoComm2008 - 1 says: "MIPRO: MIPRO Electronics is a new manufacturer to the US -- based out of Taiwan -- and they have some very powerful and simple wireless microphone solutions. I was impressed with the simplicity of operation but the prices stunned me. Check them out at: www.mipro.com.tw" It's simply a mention, and though Kayye makes some claims for himself, the publication appears little more than a blog. I doubt if it would pass as a WP:Reliable source

• MIPRO relevant news, mostly from interview - 2 Audio Pro March issue 2009 from Indonesian - this source simply mirrors the next one ([http://72.14.235.132/search?q=cache:qsTUJBhrAUsJ:www.mipro.com.tw/link/pr/2006pdf/Pro%2520Audio%2520East%2520Middle-05.06-Eugene%2520Q%26A.pdf+MIPRO+Eugene+Chen&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk 3 Pro Audio Middle East May-June 2006 from Chinese0, which merely uses MIPRO's own website. See Wikipedia:Reliable_source#Self-published_sources - the wording is: "Self-published sources are largely not acceptable." See also Wikipedia:Org#Primary_criteria. These sources therefore are not very good. Number 5 - technology asia July/Aug 2008 - is another mirror of the same article.

• 4 Economic Daily News from Chinese MIPRO is mentioned briefly in an article about Ka Keung Electronics.

• No 6 is a blog - not a reliable source.

• No 7 is a decent looking, full length review from a reliable source - http://svconline.com/ (Sound & Video Contractor)

• No 8 is a TEC Awards nomination. That's very good. A nomination for a significant award would be acceptable by most editors as evidence of notability.

• No 9 is it! Bingo. I can't see any editor now denying the notability of a product which has been nominated for a significant award, AND has an article in a reliable source about how the President of the United States used MIPRO equipment during his campaign.

I'll help you write up the article. SilkTork *^YES! 18:50, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

I've userfied each deleted version of the article toUser:wilson0324/MIPRO. That is the place to work on the article and use the reliable sources indicated above. You may work on the article in User:wilson0324/MIPRO as much as you like - but please do not attempt to restore MIPRO or any other mainspace article until I say we are ready. SilkTork *^YES! 20:00, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

MIPRO

I have restored the article, along with the new references which I feel establish notability. Regards SilkTork *^YES! 19:25, 28 April 2009 (UTC)