Wikieditor662

July 2024

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Please provide an edit summary for every edit you make. With a Wikipedia account you can give yourself a reminder by setting Preferences → Editing → Prompt me when entering a blank edit summary, and then click the "Save" button. Thanks! — Gor1995 𝄞 07:09, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, is there a way I can add a summary after I made the edit? Wikieditor662 (talk) 15:37, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

As far as i know, you can't. But don't worry, it's not a big deal, your edits were ok. It would just be great if you could do that from now on. Thanks! — Gor1995 𝄞 20:00, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

Thank you too, also, do you think we should raise the bar and remove more than a few composers on here? People seeing this may get overwhelmed, and it'll be difficult to add more composers with this many in already Wikieditor662 (talk) 20:30, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

I can see that some time ago someone did a cleanup, discussed here:Talk:List of classical music composers by era#Overview

In my opinion, in general it's fine as it is now, although I also agree that some could be deleted from the Overview section, such as Luis de Milán, Scott Joplin or less relevant ones from the 20th century. — Gor1995 𝄞 21:26, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

Removed de Milan.

I don't think Joplin should be removed as he has popular pieces (such as the entertainer and maple leaf rag), was the most important ragtime composer, and was one of the biggest black composers which is important to many people.

As for 20th century composers, do you think Varese should be removed? Wikieditor662 (talk) 22:58, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

I'm not saying Joplin is not relevant (he definitely is a huge figure), it's just that his primary contributions and influence lie in the genre of ragtime, distinct from what is traditionally defined as classical music. It's a list of (western) classical music composers after all, Joplin is not one that comes to mind when you list classical music composers.

I think Varese belongs in the list, just a personal opinion. I was thinking maybe removing names such as Alex North, Harrison Birtwistle, or other ones that almost exclusively composed film music such as Howard Shore. — Gor1995 𝄞 07:36, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

I would agree that Joplin would be hard to decide, however I'd argue that he does belong on this list. His form is similar to that of Classical music. He considered himself to be a classical musician and wrote an Opera called Treemonisha. Also, He may have influenced other composers such as Debussy and Stravinsky. However, if you still think he isn't one maybe we should go to the main talk page and see what others think.

As for the other ones you listed, I'm reading into composers on this list, so I'll probably need a couple of days or weeks until I get to these composers. In the meantime if you're sure we should remove them then you can go ahead, and I'll probably check on these composers in the future. Wikieditor662 (talk) 11:44, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

Ok for Joplin, seems fine to keep it.

As for the others, i'm not saying that for sure we have to remove something. I was just suggesting some names if we were to remove some names from the Overview section, leaving it for the most relevant figures. But it's fine either way, i don't have strong opinions about it. Thanks for improving these articles! Cheers — Gor1995 𝄞 12:34, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

Happy to help, and thanks to you too for your assistance! Let me know if you need anything else. Wikieditor662 (talk) 12:41, 10 July 2024 (UTC)