User talk:Wikibofh/Archive3

Question

Per your ruling in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yoism, the article on Yoism was deleted. I have noted that in the past day Yoism has been recreated and edited by an anonymous ISP to redirect to Open source religion. Could you clarify if that is allowed? Edwardian 05:09, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

• No, it isn't. You can tag it as speedy. {{db-g4}} will work. Wikibofh 14:42, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

• • Thank you for your reply. I have added that template to the article. Edwardian 18:31, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

Monster trucks

Hi, I just added a couple of monster truck pages using the infobox you developed, then I registered so I could let you know ;-). I am a major monster truck fan (I run a message board and know a few people in the sport) and have been wanting to help out with the Wiki stuff for a while. I don't have downtime like I used to but I can add stuff once in a while and look over stuff as well. I'll try to get the message board involved to help as well. So now it's not a one man show! Oh, and you are raising your son well if he is a monster truck fan! Arenacale 22:34, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

• Excellent! I have pictures that I need to upload from 2 weekends ago. There is a new truck (Iron Outlaw) from the Creten crew. If you need any help, please just let me know. Our resources have doubled!  :) Wikibofh 23:46, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

Your delete decision on Yoism

I know you briefly explained your decision. I don't know if you knew your explanation was responded to on the same page. Kriegman 09:09, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

• I've read most of them. I still stand by my earlier comments that VfU is the appropriate recourse. Wikibofh 05:44, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

"Most of them?" There were four responses. The first two were by me. The first was "A response to this VfD" and also included a note at the top and a note below each of the votes you discounted by editors with at least one prior (to the VfD) unrelated edit. The second response by me referred to your earlier statement that you "could be wrong" and that I should take it to VfU.

Your comment about having read "most of them" suggests that you may have taken a look at some of the notes I made below the discounted votes and that you may not have made it to considering my response below them, where I explained why your suggestion of VfU is problematic.Kriegman 13:51, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

• • I don't think it is, but I have replied. If you want me to put it on VfU for you, let me know here and I'll do it. Wikibofh 21:07, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

I must have missed your reply. Where did you reply to my explanation of the problem with this VfD and why the VfU would probably be futile without it coming from an administrator? In regards to your offer, I see little difference between my putting it on VfU and "[you] putting it on the VfU for [me]." The point I was making was that without administrators willing to consider the possibility of their acting with a general bias, another round of cursory votes would likely yield the same results. If you have a real question about the VfD that you would like to ask administrators to consider, that might be worthwhile. Kriegman 06:59, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

Article/discussion discreet deletion, right to vanish

I wrote a certain drunken rant, which while a very good rant (thank you for noticing) given the alcohol level (I did not remember in the morning), was I think most inappropriate, too angry and too harsh. More to the point, I repeated things other people told me, which I hadn't verified (I thought they were correct, now I have doubts as to the details, but either way it was not the place for such things). I am wondering if it might be possible to remove said rant from the talk history of a certain article, perhaps by deleting the page then reinstating it with a clean history (or just directly deleting the rant entry if that is possible). I have read that inflammatory remarks in talk pages are often deleted, and I would ask that this be done in this case. After this I would not make further edits. I see you have a policy on the 'right to vanish' and this is exactly what I would like to do, user talk page and all, in particular I would like to make this rant vanish and then I will vanish. I would appreciate your discretion in this matter and apologize for the trouble my drunken rantings have caused.

• It has been done. Good luck. Wikibofh 03:39, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

Tammany Hall revert

You reverted these edits to Tammany Hall. The user has asked the help desk why you've done so here. It'd be nice if you would comment on why you reverted this article. --Quasipalm 04:10, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

• Done. Replied at the help desk. Wikibofh 14:23, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

• Thanks. I think the original version that you reverted to was probably better (although i don't know much about the subject). However, the person seemed to be acting in good faith so I thought it'd be nice if we followed up with him or her. The easiest solution would be for them to make a login. --Quasipalm 19:03, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

212.85.15.67

I saw that you put a month long block on this IP, while I put a much shorter one on. This is a school address and a month seems excessive to me. My theory is that a short one will chase them away, they won't hang around for it to expire most times and it leaves the school unblocked. If you want to change it go ahead, I just though I'd let you know! Rx StrangeLove 15:03, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

• Actually, I went with a week. The last month long block lasted about 3 weeks before getting unblocked. I saw that you went with a day, and I have no problems with that. I also saw you got test5 on, which I forgot.  :) Wikibofh 15:23, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

65.5.128.20

65.5.128.20 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) is vandalizing again. Check contribs for details. (You blocked this IP previously with a message threatening to block longer if the user vandalized more in the future). --Locke Cole 15:09, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

• Thanks for the heads up. Blocked for a month. Wikibofh 15:27, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

Yoism

Unless you have strong objections, I'm going to undelete the history of Talk:Yoism. The deletion discussion from two years ago seems to have taken place directly on that page, so it wasn't a valid speedy. While it wasn't linked from Wikipedia:Archived delete debates, this appears to have been either an oversight, or a result of the discussion ending in a keep the first time around. —Cryptic (talk) 20:04, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

• I have no objections.  :) Wikibofh 20:30, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

Buff (MMORPG terminology)'s original name?

Hi. User:Uly has suggested that Buff (MMORPG terminology) be moved to Buff (computer gaming). What I was wondering is, do you remember what it was called before you worked on moving it? I would hate to move it to computer gaming only to find out later that it was *originally* called that and moved to MMORPG terminology. You can reply here or on Talk:Buff (MMORPG terminology) if you remember. Thanks! --Syrthiss 04:05, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

• I'll try to research it and see what I can find. I don't remember off the top of my head. Give me a few days. Wikibofh 04:25, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

• • I replied on the article talk page, but it was Buff (Everquest terminology) Wikibofh 17:18, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for supporting me for adminship. The RfA passed today. I look forward to working with you to make Wikipedia a better place. --Nlu 03:45, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

wiki code formatting

I'm just wondering why you moved the categories to the bottom, on Wear Sunscreen...

I like them so much better on the top.

I bet there's an article somewhere in wikipedia that discuss something "as useless as this" and I might even be able to find it, but I rather just ask you this time. :P

And thanks for your improvements in there again... I still have a long path before I can write nice texts in English.

--Cawas 02:27, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

• I move them to the bottom because it's the standard. I don't know where it is written, but experience has shown it to be so.  :) I think most of the stuff like this tends to be in the Manual of Style, but I can't find the category stuff :) Wikibofh 03:35, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

206.77.0.156

Hi! Hey, I saw that you blocked this IP for a week, as you mentioned it's a shared address for a school. In that light do you think that might be a little long? Would you mind if I shortened it? I hate to see a whole school blocked from editing. Thanks! Rx StrangeLove 16:09, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

• I looked at the block log and it looks like that is the average block length and it's been effective with no obvious collateral damage. That being said, I would not object if you shorten it. I do tend to get tired of schools that continue to vandalise without ever working to fix it. Wikibofh 16:18, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

Too quick on the vandalism patrol

Hi Wikibofh,

You are too quick for me on the vandalism patrol today. I was writing a reply for User talk:169.244.143.115, but you got be in an edit conflict and pretty much echoed what I was trying to say. Then I went to revert Pablo Picasso and you just beat me to it again....

There's been a lot of kids vandalising Pablo Picasso and Mona Lisa recently. I guess it must be school project time. -- Solipsist 16:30, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

• *grin* It's one of my watchlist items. Pretty much, I do my RC patrol off my watchlist.  :) I'm always amazed at the articles that get vandalised. For instance, why are these typical targets: Pablo Picasso, Romanticism and Frederick II of Prussia? I mean, I understand John Kerry and George W. Bush, but have a hard time understanding Dred Scott (cleaned up two today) and the near constant vandalism of Andrew Jackson.  :) But if we're running into each other, it means we're both doing a good job.  :) Wikibofh 16:36, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

The usual explanation is that these are topics that get set as school homework projects. Kids who are too bored to do their homework, choose to vandalise the page they are reading instead. Other random pages are sometimes the target of a slashdot effect - the activity seems to have subsided now, but for example Wing warping was used as an example of how Wikis work at HowStuffWorks.com. So readers from HowStuffWorks were effectively directed to try their experiments and tests on the wing warping article. -- Solipsist 11:40, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for reverting the vandalism on my page. --Nlu 22:59, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

I, Nlu, award you this Random Act of Kindness Barnstar for being so nice without being asked.

• *grin* Thanks. My first award. The non-ordinary part is remembering counter++  :) Wikibofh 23:54, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

Warning

Hi. I'm sorry about the problems - I am a teacher doing this on a school computer and the entire network has the same IP address and therefore if a high schooler makes a change or if I do it looks as if it is from the same person. I (the teacher) actually do have a wikipedia account but I don't have the password with me. Just keep in mind that a lot of kids use this network and some are not as bad as others. 20:16, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

• We get that a lot. Generally we try to keep the blocks short so that it just deals with that particular class session, but over a long period of time, it starts to get old. If you end up getting hit with the block just let one of the admins know and they can unblock. There are some schools we see nothing but vandalism, some where we see just most, but it's not a unique situation. Wikibofh 20:22, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

Oooo, wet noodles?

While I admit there is a certain kinky allure to the idea... did I really mess up the diffs? I don't think I did! Then again, even goddesses make mistakes, sometimes. ;) · Katefan0^(scribble)/my ridiculous poll 21:47, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

• Yes, at least the way I think they ought to be. See, I think they should be diffs between the reverts so that when you look at them you'll see (since we're talking 3RR) that there were no differences. Let me show you what I mean. Here are your diffs:

• 1st revert: Dec. 2, 14:55
• 2nd revert: Dec. 2, 15:00
• 3rd revert: Dec. 2, 15:04
• 4th revert: Dec. 2, 15:06

Now, what I think it should look like:

• 1 first
• 2 second
• 3 third
• 4 fourth

Note how when you you rip through all of these you can see, there is no difference, straight revert. With your diffs I'd have to compare the diff parts between the pages. Make sense? Wikibofh 21:58, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

AHA! Yes it does, and seems imminently (and rather obviously, to my chagrin) sensible now that you point it out. Well, I certainly learned something useful today, my dear Wikibofh. I won't make that mistake again, but that doesn't mean you can't lash me with wet noodles regardless. · Katefan0^(scribble)/my ridiculous poll 22:08, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

• • Clearly we need a Wet noodle or Comfy chair style award.  :) Wikibofh 22:11, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

Stub templates

You seem to be using {{subst:...}} when adding stub templates to articles. I'm not sure that this is the right thing to do, as this way the articles won't pick up changes to the stub template. Has there been discussion on this and I've missed it? Cheers -- sjorford (talk) 11:04, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

• Good question. It is being done across all user warning templates to help reduce server load (only has to load once, not every time). I don't think changing stubs templates would happen often or would be that big an impact, but I also haven't given it a lot of consideration. Perhaps a discussion somewhere would be good. Best I can think of right now is Village Pump. Wikibofh 23:11, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

Image:Brewerycollage2.jpg has no copyright information

I have changed the tag on Image:Brewerycollage2.jpg from {{logo}} to {{no license}}, since it is a photograph, not a logo. If you have information about the copyright status of the image, please indicate so on the image page. —Bkell 21:08, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

• Thanks for the notice. I have fired off email to NBB to see if I can get them to provide a license for it that we can use. Wikibofh_(talk) 04:45, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

Pathoschild's successful RfA

Thanks a lot for your support on my request for adminship; it passed with 23/0/0 (plus one duplicate support and an oppose from a vandal IP). I'll do my best both as a LART and as a proponent of my WikiProjects. ^_^ // Pathoschild 09:23, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

• My pleasure. Wikibofh_(talk) 16:18, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

Gallery

On a related note (see Talk:Ultimate_(sport)), I think you caught someone peeing in the background of 3932. Good job. --Keflavich 21:08, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

• *laugh* I had never noticed that. It is funny though.  :) Wikibofh_(talk) 21:18, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the help.

Thanks for blocking those IP addresses related to the GH avisualagency™ deletion process. I appreciate the quick response. | Klaw ¡digame! 01:38, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

• No problem. Had to go and look at all of them, but pretty clearly all puppets of the same vandal(s). Keep an eye out, I only blocked for 24 hours. Wikibofh_(talk) 01:41, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

Open proxy backlog

Thanks alot for the help with the backlog! If you intend on doing any more, perhaps we could split the list between us to avoid overlapping? :) // Pathoschild 05:24, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

• I'm waiting for the family to get home before I crash for the night. I'll work backwards on page 2 until then.  :) Wikibofh_(talk) 05:26, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

Nylon edit

OK, that's not unreasonable: "clothing." Now we're getting somewhere. Glad we could work this out like adults. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.133.42.181 (talk • contribs) 19:27, December 15, 2005

• Great. Hopefully that will work for everyone. Wikibofh_(talk) 19:49, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

Can you please block

For obvious reasons, can you please blog Sdfghgfdfjhdgdhfgh? I saw you were online, can you please do that for me, since I'm not an admin? (Also, if by the time I have this typed up, s/he's already blocked, sorry for bothering you!)--ViolinGirl^♪ 22:37, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

Opps. Dan got it already. Sorry!--ViolinGirl^♪ 22:38, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

• I got 'em but someone else did as well. No worries. WP:AIV is a good place to list these. Wikibofh_(talk) 22:39, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

Thanks

..for removing vandalism of my talk page.

Take care, εγκυκλοπαίδεια* (talk) 23:36, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

• You're welcome. Would you like me to delete out the move history? Wikibofh_(talk) 00:05, 16 December 2005 (UTC)