User talk:WarthogDemon/Archive/Archive 1

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Thanks for the tip. I'm glad to be here. ^_^ -WarthogDemon 01:58, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

May 1968

Welcome to Wikipedia. Thank you for reverting vandalism in the article May 1968, but be careful, it was an incomplete reversion. Hu 23:55, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. ^_^ And sorry about that. Hope I didn't mess it up too bad. O_o;;; -WarthogDemon 01:58, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

edit summary in chair

You made me laugh. Joyous! | Talk 04:03, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Unwell

All lyrics to songs are copyrighted and cannot be allowed on Wikipedia. --172.198.40.82 08:35, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Then take it to a talk page and figure it out. If it is, I want to know as I recall seeing about half a dozen pages with full lyrics on here earlier. -WarthogDemon 08:36, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Yes, if they're over seventy years in length. Lyrics to songs under that age are copyrighted! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 172.198.40.82 (talk • contribs) .

No problem, just try to remember that not all anons are idiots. --172.198.40.82 08:47, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Will do. -WarthogDemon 08:48, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

PS If anyone doesn't sign a post, put {{subst:unsigned|personwhodidn'tsignhere}} --172.198.40.82 08:53, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks and sorry again. ^_^; -WarthogDemon 08:58, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Unwell (2)

Song lyrics are copyright. Please stop inserting them into the above article. Thanks, Sarah Ewart (Talk) 08:37, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Edit warring is bad. But it's a REALLY bad idea to edit war with someone who is clearly stating they are removing content because it is a copyright violation. Just go to their talk page and ask them to clarify if you're not sure. A lot of respected editors and administrators sometimes edit while logged out and some of our best editors are IPs. Sarah Ewart (Talk) 08:56, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, misread what he/she meant at first but I stopped once I figured what was going on. ^^; I don't discriminate with IPs. Just a misunderstanding there. Sorry for the mess up. -WarthogDemon 08:58, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

S'alright with me. He, by the way.--172.198.40.82 09:01, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Reverting vandalism

Hi. Thanks for your work reverting vandalized articles. I've noticed a few times, though, where you've reverted some, but not all, of a vandal's edits. [1] [2] [3] It's always a good idea to check the history of the article you're reverting to make sure you haven't missed anything. Thanks! -- Vary | Talk 01:08, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

No problem and thanks for the tip. ^_^; -WarthogDemon 02:09, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Reverting Vandalism

Good job on your anti-vandalism efforts! Be careful, though, not to rvv the new warnings other users put on vandals' talk pages (see User talk:207.81.100.69 ). I've done that accidentally before too. ;) Good luck, –- kungming·2 | ^{(Talk·Contact)} 06:27, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Hmmm.. You know, I'm not sure of really how to prevent such stuff from happening, especially since anti-vandalism efforts are done so quickly - usually, it's measured in a matter of seconds! What I do (if a user's talk page is particularly crowded with vadalism warnings) is to quickly check the history of the talk page, and then see if anything went wrong. But that's all I know. Keep up the good work! –- kungming·2 | ^{(Talk·Contact)} 02:28, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Re: Userfying

Re your message: Yes. The short answer is you move the page to their user page. See Wikipedia:Userfication. There's also a message you can leave them {{subst:nn-userfy}}, though I think that message is a little rough. -- Gogo Dodo 05:00, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

No problem :)

I had a feeling that's what happened since I'd blown it off once before. System glitch. Thanks for letting me know; I knew you weren't responsible. - Lucky 6.9 17:20, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

For your efforts against vandalism

I believe you deserve one of these.

		The RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
		I hereby award you this anti-vandalism barnstar, as acknowledgement of the numorous times you've beaten me to reverting vandalism (By my count, at least seven or eight times. You really deserve it. GUTTERTAHAH 02:21, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Wow, thanks! :) -WarthogDemon 04:01, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Your edit to Magic (illusion)

Your recent edit to Magic (illusion) (diff) was reverted by an automated bot that attempts to recognize and repair vandalism to Wikipedia articles. If the bot reverted a legitimate edit, please accept my humble creator's apologies – if you bring it to the attention of the bot's owner, we may be able to improve its behavior. Click here for frequently asked questions about the bot and this warning. // AntiVandalBot 04:11, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

oO A bot just edited first while I was reverting at the same time. >_> -WarthogDemon 04:13, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Vanity pages

It wouldn't be overstepping your bounds at all - in fact, it's very helpful for editors to place warnings like that themselves. If you haven't seen it already, check out Wikipedia:Template messages/User talk namespace for some appropriate templates to use.

With vanity pages, though, I often find it works well to simply move the page to the editor's userpage, if they haven't already created one, and leave a note on their talk page explaining the move. Then, if they re-create the page, add a speedy tag and start with the progressively-sterner warning templates, reporting them to WP:AIV if necessary once you've gotten to level four. -- Vary | Talk 04:16, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Ha, no problem. Thanks for pointing her out! -- Vary | Talk 04:17, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

hey!

that would be great for you to help me! i didnt even no that there was a section that the recaps were kept, so i thought it would be best to move them. i need to get some sleep anyways! its like almost 3 here, wayyyy past my bedtime. so yeah, and i also have to change all the Op. to Operation: im new to all of this, i just started tonight, so if you see stuff i do wrong, feel free to tell me, i just want it a little more user friendly. thanks! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Narfers02 (talk • contribs) .

I'll help if it's okay with everyone. I'd like to check with the admins first. But if they give the go ahead I'll be glad to. -WarthogDemon 07:47, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

thanks!

kk, thanks a bunch, i normally sign my messages on other stuff, im just running on empty right now, its almost 3 and i should have been asleep awhile ago, so but all i did wtih the eps, i just copied and pasted, from the one page to the other, just to get them moved, so i didnt edit any of them. if you have AIM IM me, im Narfers02, im always logged on, so its waaayyyy easier for me to respond. thanks again, and ill talk to you later! --narhyn P.S. im a girl, i noticed you two were refering to me as a guy, it happens alot. my name is pronounced like Nair-ren —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Narfers02 (talk • contribs) .

Heh, I make the gender mistake a lot. I do have messengers though I keep it private to most. ^_^; -WarthogDemon 08:21, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

incomplete reverts of vandalism is becoming vandalism

Your incomplete revert of vandalism to Bluegrass music 23:48, 23 October 2006 is actually helping the vandals. I see on your user page that you have a joke (I'm trying to rever analism an I hope I'm doing an okay job in that aspect.) about reverting vandalism so I'm wondering how sincere you are.

I see in your talk page that several people have pointed out these incomplete reverts. If you don't have time to check the previous edits then please don't revert because someone else will. -Crunchy Numbers 17:51, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Hmm okay. Time to vandalize my sandbox to figure out exactly what goes awry in my revertings. o.O -WarthogDemon 18:47, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Adopt

Hello, WarthogDemon/Archive! I see that you have expressed an interest in being adopted by an experienced editor. I accept your request, being an experienced editor myself. Whether you want to learn about wiki markup, find something to do, or just talk to somebody, I'm the one you can talk to - just leave a message on my talk page. Good luck with Wikipedia! --Daniel Olsen 19:16, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. :) I'm hoping to get help soon from an editor as there are some movie pages I would like to try and create. (Plus I have the odd question or three every time I log on.) o.o; -WarthogDemon 19:29, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

rv'ing article blanking

When the author of an article that's been tagged for speedy removes the db tag, that should be rv'ed as vandalism. When they blank the whole article, it's interpreted as surrender, as in, "go ahed and delete it". The proper thing to do is put {{db-blanked}} in the article, which expands out to text including "no one other than its original author has made substantial edits, and he or she has blanked the page (CSD G7)." -- Fan-1967 23:35, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Ah, okay. I misread when I checked the info on the templates. Sorry about that and thanks for the heads up. -WarthogDemon 23:36, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure it's specifically documented somewhere. After all, the warning templates for messages on the user talk page specifically tell them that they don't need to blank the page, they can just let it be deleted naturally, but many do anyway. That's why the "db-blanked" template was invented. Fan-1967 23:40, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

In Wikipedia:Speedy deletions it says You should not wipe out the contents as it helps to check the contents to be deleted without having to look at the page history.You should not wipe out the contents as it helps to check the contents to be deleted without having to look at the page history. which I took as meaning I should keep the article just the way I found it. That was the confusion on my part. I'll have to double read next time to make sure I'm doing things alright. Thanks again and sorry about that. -WarthogDemon 23:45, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Re:Boyfriend Robotique

No problem; I figured it out! ... discospinster _talk 02:52, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Alright. Just wanted to make sure. ^_^ -WarthogDemon 04:53, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Beauty and the Beast

You should be able to go ahead and write your article, as long as you abide by the three main policies of Wikipedia: No original research, Verifiability and Neutral point of view. Things written on imdb by writers for the site can be included, things written by forum members generally should not. The image of VHS or DVD covers are considered Fair Use and can be uploaded from wherever, as long as they are taged with either {{DVDcover}} or {{Video tape cover}}. For the article title, we can look to Wikipedia:Naming conventions (films), which says that we should title it Beauty and the Beast (2003 film). Blood Of Beasts should be made into a redirect page which sends the user to Beauty and the Beast (2003 film) in case they search the alternate title. Anything else? --Daniel Olsen 00:15, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. ^_^ Let's see, just to be sure, when I write down the detailed summary, the movie itself is the source, so I really wouldn't need to cite anything other than the movie sites right? -WarthogDemon 04:53, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

That's correct. Whenever humanly possible, cite your sources! --Daniel Olsen 01:39, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Deer Valley disambig

Hi, The disambig seems fine. How did you find me? :) Happy editing anyway! Sarvagnya 05:31, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Found you off recent changes. I don't want to burden a single user on my inexperience so I wanted ot ask a new user who would be able to check for me. Thanks. :) -WarthogDemon 05:35, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Re: Disasterous Page Moving

Re your message: It's okay, you corrected the mistake and I think the page is at the right location now. It's a weird bio, but the user name does sort of match up with the article name. The other article she made, Erin Dunn (better go look quick, it got tagged as an attack page), makes me think that is her, too. It's one of those borderline things: {{db-bio}} or userfy. Kind of a toss up, but I think you made the right call. To double check, you will probably want to leave a note on the editor's Talk page saying that you moved it and that if that really isn't her own bio, she can have it deleted using {{db-owner}}. -- Gogo Dodo 05:40, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

I've taken your suggestion. Thanks, and yeah the Erin page was what got me to wonder if it was a genuine bio or not as well. Thanks again. :) -WarthogDemon 06:06, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome. One more suggestion... you might want to tell her where you moved it to with a link so she can find it. Might also want to add a link to Wikipedia:User page explaining what user pages are, since a new user might not know they have a user page. -- Gogo Dodo 06:55, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Well you Tell Kittybrewster to stop doing bleeding cut and paste pages moves then

^^^^ -—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 217.43.18.66 (talk • contribs) .

Seems you did a more-than-adequate job of sending that kind of message already. Just reminding you to keep your cool. Just tone it down and stay cool, dude. This isn't a personal site and thus, shouldn't BE personal. -WarthogDemon 09:35, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(biographies)#Honorific_prefixes- Kittybrewster 09:53, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

User:Ryulong and User:proteus don't agree with you either. - Kittybrewster 10:08, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

I never said you were in the right or wrong. I just got the personal attack off your talk page. -WarthogDemon 17:11, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Thank you very much for that. - Kittybrewster 23:29, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

An odd answer

Did we? If we both notified the user on the same thing, we should just leave one up, whichever has the earlier timestamp. If there's two because the user removed the tag, then we could leave both up, or change one to a drmspeedy. I'm not sure which article it is... I've tagged several today. But if you want to change it, be my guest. -FisherQueen 19:52, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

We did indeed on the same thing. I'll leave yours up since you preceeded my warning by one second. I just didn't know whether or not both should keep up (since warnings should not be removed and I didn't want it to look like he made that page more than once.) -WarthogDemon 19:55, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the revert of this edit on Gogo Dodo. Funny that he couldn't find my user page. Apparently, I'm also a "fatzilla nerd fanboy", whatever that is. -- Gogo Dodo 05:50, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Not a problem. And eh, that's just one of the risks of being on the Internet. Sometimes you get an insult that doesn't make a whole lot of sense. -WarthogDemon 07:47, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Actually, I just noticed you tagged it {{db-attack}}. There was a real article that was overwritten, so a revert would have been better there than a speedy delete. The admin who saw the the CSD reverted the article back to what it was before. -- Gogo Dodo 18:58, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

I thought I tagged AND reverted. O.o Odd. And the reason I tagged was because I thought the vandal created the page. I forgot it was an actual character. ^^; This'll teach me to check the History tab more often. -WarthogDemon 20:08, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Bcagle102

Thanks for the warning! NawlinWiki 22:46, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Not a problem! -WarthogDemon 23:29, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

A Tear for Eddie

Sorry about that. That was the first time I've ever encountered that tag and didn't know what it was for. Again, my apologies. Moore1612 23:39, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

No prob. It's hard at first to get the hang of things here. (I should know.) o.O -WarthogDemon 01:41, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

substing

The standard for user-talk templates and warnings in particular is to substitute templates so that the message does not evolve over time. I often forget to do so and I've noticed people will subst previous warnings so I do the same when I see them. In any case, no biggie: if you think about it, use subst: and if you don't, well it usually won't matter much. Cheers, Pascal.Tesson 03:57, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Blood of Beasts

The image looks perfect, good size, good tagging, good summary. The syntax to give a link to an image without actually showing it is [[:Image:Name.ext]]. This works with categories and templates as well. --Daniel Olsen 06:58, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Gotcha. And thanks! -WarthogDemon 07:20, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Lovinba4li

Uh, I think you meant {drmspeedy} not {drmafd}. Different tags for different deletion notices. Fan-1967 03:22, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Oh, okay. o_O Sorry about that. I'll be more careful with the tags. (Still learning them.) -WarthogDemon 03:23, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

In case you don't have the link, the full list of all the tags is at WP:UTTM. I found some there that I didn't know existed. Fan-1967 14:45, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. I was trying to find a page of that. -WarthogDemon 17:20, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Dude...

I archived my talk page, which IS ALLOWED as indicated by ONE OF THE WARNINGS on the page. Can you read? -—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.168.242.15 (talk • contribs) .

Quite well. If you'll check, the second warning had nothing to do with removal of warnings but rather being civil with edit summaries. -WarthogDemon 02:15, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Okay

Um, what did I do, exactly.

1. I temporarily removed the warnings. 2. I put a link to my archive. 3. I put the warnings in the archive.

Umm, so now what? Two edit summaries merits this crap? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.168.242.15 (talk • contribs) .

As I said before, the second warning was merely telling you to keep your cool, not about moving things to an archive. -WarthogDemon 02:25, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Subst

When using certain template tags on talk pages, don't forget to substitute with text by adding subst: to the template tag. For example, use {{subst:test}} instead of {{test}}. This reduces server load and prevents accidental blanking of the template. --Joe Jklin (T C) 03:57, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Ah okay. I was told it was no biggie, but I'll try to use substs more. -WarthogDemon 05:24, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

You are welcome

Thanks for letting me know. Keep up the good work.--Dakota 04:03, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

I will. Thanks again! -WarthogDemon 05:24, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Werdnabot fix

I just removed some excess parentheses in your Werdnabot invokation. Perhaps that will fix it. Also I will create the achive file. JRSpriggs 05:09, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Ah, thanks~ :) -WarthogDemon 05:24, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

User:Hayato Nekketsu

What in particular's inappropriate about the username? Probably some pop culture or linguistic thing I'm missing. Luna Santin 06:54, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Isn't it against policy? O.o -WarthogDemon 06:55, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Nope, not against policy. My name (being pretty common) corresponds to an article. Userspace and mainspace are completely separate. -- Jim Douglas ^(talk) _(contribs) 07:01, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Ah, thanks for the clearing up then. -WarthogDemon 07:07, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Not exactly. See WP:USERNAME. What is against policy is a name impersonating someone who is famous. So for example making User:William Dembski would be a problem. Since Hayato Nekketsu is fictional there isn't any issue (heck we even have User:Lord Voldemort who is an admin). JoshuaZ 07:03, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Ah, I see now. (Even though I haven't a clue who Will is . . . *checks*) Thanks. :) -WarthogDemon 07:07, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Margaret Rudkin

I removed the speedy tag because I think the woman who founded Pepperidge Farms does have some claim to notability. The problem with it was that the creator had just cut and paste from three different sources to make it. I've rewritten the entire thing to avoid that. You might want to check it out for UK/US spelling as the only spell checker here is UK based. Thanks. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 07:15, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 09:53, 3 November 2006 (UTC)