User talk:Warlordjohncarter~enwiki/Archive Jul 2008

Take a look...

...at the new proposal on the bot's discussion page. Your suggestions have essentially, if I understood them correctly, been incorporated Fritzpoll (talk) 14:26, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : Issue XXVII (May 2008)

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St. Mary's Church, Chepstow

Thanks for the infobox! Ghmyrtle (talk) 14:41, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Bot approved: dabbing help needed

Hi there. Fritz bot has been approved at Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/FritzpollBot for filling in a possible 1.8 million articles on settlements across the world. Now dabbing needs to be done for links which aren't sorted as the bot will bypass any blue links. and I need as many people as possible to help me with Wikipedia:WikiProject Missing encyclopedic articles/Places to prepare for the bot. If you could tackle a page or two everything counts as it will be hard to do it alone. Thankyou ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 12:04, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Things are beginning to develop!. The catalogue and sorting can really be done fairly quickly and check out all those red links!!! ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 17:26, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Just goes to show that if you want something enough you can make things happen. I had serious doubts that I would ever succeed in getting approved let alone a program written up to make it possible and organize it on this scale, but I stuck in there and kept on until the fantastic Mr. Fritz turned up! Do you realize that by the end of the entire run we will be responsible for well over half of wikipedias entire articles not including the 25,000 ones already created!! ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 19:10, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Well I'm playing it safe for now as we are going to skip China, Russia and India till last which have some of the highest number of places. If we fully capitalize on the settlements in these three countries -takign into account the 638,000 articles in India and that russia is 19 times the size of India, once these are completed.... Due course I will be looking into a new NatureBot too in the same way, obviously Fritz won't be running that bot but in a few weeks once the geobot is well into its stride I'll be looking to expand the nature/ecology department of wikipedia ten fold and I'll be looking at Pollbot and any other from the nature project to begin a huge scale new bot run. I;m sure you;ve seen truckloads of red links on species on almost every articles on a plant or animal. So by the end of it, who knows? ... ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 19:22, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

The National Geospatial Intelligence Agency is the site we are using, and using maplandia for guidance ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 21:34, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

John we're under attack from kiddies. Not only has a huge fracas been created at the village pump but they are now attempting to delete Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Amurn created by the bot and prevent the bot from going ahead and developing. Makes me lose my faith in humanity if people think continuing to ignore 95% of the world is a good thing. You don't have to support or oppose anything but I would appreciate anything you could say. Its a little discouraging to encounter this after weeks of fetting bot approval and kind of a kick in the teeth to haev an afd thrown at you then to show their disgust at the efforts to fill in the world on here ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 17:33, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Wise man not commenting yesterday. Perhaps you could propose a new wikiprojct at WP:COuncils to organize the bots work or as a task force of WP~:Cities or whatever. It would take a great dela direct pressure off Fritz and myself if it could be discussed as a group rationally ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 14:04, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Absolutely, the more people involved the better. The thing is we need a forum to discuss things rationally between editors who are considerably more knowledgebale about missing content and what needs doing which is away from the glaring headlights of the village pump. Unofrtunately many people who comment there know nothing about what is missing, or who barely ever edit or use english wikipedia. I;d like to maximize involvement but beteen constrictuve editors (e.g like geometry guy etc) who have good ideas in how to move forward in a way that maximizes the productivty of the bot. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 14:26, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Mm not going well is it. I wonder how many would see the benefits of it if it was added into the proposal that the bot could be used to clean up existing articles first by adding an infobox or details of something before each country is started. If we could prove that the bot could make existing articles consistent and improve existing content and generate new content it would likely gain more support. As it stands what can we do? Its pointless trying to comment on that page as people aren't reading the proposal properly. The bot has already been approved by key editors on here, it has the green light to generate content, there were 100 strong supports with the original proposal but 1/3 of the comments were against and now even more balanced with the latest offering. Can you see a solution in this situation?? I've tried to add articles manually but my movements are being watched by editors who are involved in the pump discussion and I tried adding some new articles earlier and they have been tagged by people who oppose to the idea. You can still email me if you don't want to reply here. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 16:10, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Well I've been trying to stay away from the trap. Yesterday I started 1972 Nicaragua earthquake which didn't have an article. That potetially could be expanded all the way. I have huge backlog of french commune infoboxes to add, but am certain that could be done automatically sooner or later so. I suppose I could always expand Cortina, Italy from Italian wiki. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 17:25, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

User:Pastordavid/Theology workgroup

John, I thought that I would move this into project space to go ahead and flesh it out some more, if you have no objections. Pastordavid (talk) 17:44, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

online. Pastordavid (talk) 20:04, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

What?

What is this? Shahid • ^Talk2me 18:35, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Mmm. Seems he remained more calm and civil than most editors on here would have would have following that nonsense. Looks like my crap toleration barnstar was 110% justified. People like that aren't worth the time ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 18:45, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

I am an admin who is eligible for recall. I initially chose that way to determine if my conduct qualified for such recall. However, there were three parties, all of whose behavior I have at times more than questioned, who decided to use it as an attempt to railroad me into being desysopped. I have seen that other admins open to recall have requested the RfC route for desysopping, and, considering none of the complainers have anything of substance or recentness to complain about, I recently opted to use that means to determine if I qualify for recall. I also note that all three of the complainers have quited down, in fact been almost invisible, recently, which, in all honesty, isn't something I particularly object to. John Carter (talk) 18:52, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Understand fully. Amazing isn't it, Tinkinswood currently on the front page is roughly about 5 miles from my house. I'v genuinely never heard of it in my life!! I could tell you a huge amount about other ancient spots or parks in the Vale of Glamorgan but I can't think why I've never heard of that! ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 19:59, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

St Lawrence Church, Morden

My dear John, as this is simply another church building that was absconded by the Protestants during the reformation, my opinion is that we not concern ourselves with it. If the Anglicans wish to edit it and take out the advertisements, thats their business, not ours. Or should we worry ourselves about every article written about every pre-reformation European church stolen by the Lutherans, Calvinists, Anglicans, ad nauseum--Lyricmac (talk) 18:19, 26 May 2008 (UTC)?

I stand corrected. Thank you.--Lyricmac (talk) 01:18, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Diocese vs RC Diocese

John, if there were a consensus, I would be glad to help in the re-direction the articles from 'Roman Catholic Diocese of ...' to 'Diocese of ...'. However, there would need to be something in the title that distinguished a Catholic diocese from an Anglican or Episcopal diocese. If Hammer wants to redirect, may I suggest 'Catholic Diocese of ...'? This might prevent non-Catholics from thinking that all Catholics are RCs. Give me a ring, please.--Lyricmac (talk) 01:14, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

I know; as I am also an RC('though I normally ID myself as a Latin-rite Catholic, for claritys sake), It gets a bit tiresome trying to explain the 20+ rites in the Eastern Church that are also 'Catholic'. I can understand that non-RCs get a little nicked on this subject(my son-in-law is a Maronite).

However, at the same time, if the articles are entiitled 'Roman Catholic Diocese of ...', then there can be no confusion about the fact that we are discussing a Latin-rite diocese. Question-how many of the Eastern rites us the term 'diocese', and how many call their geographical divisions 'eparchies', or some such? I am willing to bet that the term 'Roman Catholic Diocese' is the most descriptive term that could be used in this case-that the re-direction by Malleus may be an exercise in futility, after all.--Lyricmac (talk) 01:50, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

List of missing places: American Samoa

Hey there. I wanted to say good job about making that list. It appears that it was already fixed up by you before I even went about to look at it! I didn't realize that it's disambiguation was already done so I checked a few of the blue links myself and of course all were fine/fixed. Only after did I look at the history to see you already did all the disambiguation editing :). There was one thing left out though and I am not too sure what to do with it. I have left it at the top of the page for you to look at if you want (or anyone else for that matter) and added that the page was "done" with the dabbing in the American Samoa list. Kind regards :).Calaka (talk) 06:01, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

I had a look at the wikiproject for American Samoa and I say go right ahead and merge it into WP:Polynesia. Also make sure to redirect the Wp:american samoa talk page template into the wp:polynesia talk page template. Any thoughts on doing the same thing with WP:Samoa or is that a bit more active? Cheers!Calaka (talk) 12:46, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

I've requested a new locator map for American Samoa, thanks for dabbing Anguilla -you sure they are called ... Village??? I'm going to see if I can get a few guides to some of the African countires from ebay, the Bradt guides are recommended by Michael Palin as more detailed than general travel guides and a lot more information on local cultures and places. I chaven't got a lot of money to spend for I;m watching two books one on Ghana and one on Benin each around 450 pages long which I'm sure would help. If I had a library I could get hold of some books on African history too or some central buraeau details on some of these countries. I have a detailed book on Barbados which I could develop a few articles with -the key is research isn't it. Imagine the sum of what is lying in all books from around the planet ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 13:48, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Potential members of the new project

See Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)/FritzpollBot#Interested editors in joining the new WikiProject. If we are to create a new project or taskforce of WP:Cities then we need some idea of membership and willingness of editors to make a contrubtion towards any part of the running of the bot in any department. Follwing this, it can be pasted directly to the WP:COuncil for proposing new projects and set up in a short space of time ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 14:25, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Block the vandal will you please? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 15:37, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Indian coracles

On 5 June, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Indian coracles, which you recently nominated. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--BorgQueen (talk) 19:56, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Re:Huge orphaned category; needs WikiProject Islam's attention

Hi John, I saw this on your talk page. Striver made a lot of works for two years here. Unfortunately he couldn't comply himself with the regulations of our society and others dealt with him too bad. However I think we can use them on the basis of of Style (dates and numbers).

In addition, I've recently seen this. Apparently you want to add Sufi task force [1]. Most of the task forces are made by Stiver and aren't active now. Thus I don't think making a new task force would be helpful. --Seyyed(t-c) 15:10, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

In Islam we don't have something like church. Islamic schools, sects and branches have more similarity than Christian churches. Thus as you can see in the main page of the wikiproject, Islam is a featured article while most of the articles which relate to different branches are at the stub status. If you want to make Suffism task force, I suggest asking the wikipedians who have participated in it[2]. And "Islamic theology or Islamic texts task force" has overlap with Shia, Sunni and Muslim scholars task forces.--Seyyed(t-c) 19:27, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Good idea. I can help you with it.--Seyyed(t-c) 01:34, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Christianity Newsletter

I made a few changes with the current WikiProject Christianity Newsletter. Hope you dont mind.. Please do make any corrections needed if any. After that I will place a make a BOT request for the delivery to our member talk pages -- TinuCherian ^{(Wanna Talk?)} - 10:06, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Embassy of Uzbekistan in Washington, D.C.

I noticed you're the only member of the Uzbekistan project. Did you still want me to tag the article with your project or just leave the Central Asia project tag? APK ^{yada yada} 21:18, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

William Melmoth and WP:AN/I

Hi John, I hope you don't mind if I suggest that you withdraw (and perhaps blank) the ANI thread about this article and your interaction with Geogre. Honestly, the dispute centers around the letter of an assessment. The tenor of the interaction on that page suggests that you have some history with Geogre - but in this particular case, I think he is generally right. It isn't absolutely necessary that the article be assessed as B, or include other sources if only one is available. I think that you should avoid labeling edits by longstanding contributors (regardless of the history) as vandalism, and try to approach assessments such as this in the future as not worth long contentious arguments and disputes that make it to AN/I. Thanks, and hopefully everyone can put this behind them with no hard feelings. Avruch^T * ^ER 22:37, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Just read your latest response at AN/I, and I do understand that the assessments can be sometimes useful. Its good to know that you were unaware of Geogre's background, although that knocks out my theory that the tenor of the talkpage was related to some past issue. I think, based on my reading there, that perhaps you misinterpreted his comments or found something particularly objectionable in his writing style. I see no reason for it to have become as hostile as it did, truly. I think that everyone involved would be better served moving on from that article to other work - surely the assessment of one article is unimportant in the scheme of things. Avruch^T * ^ER 22:42, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

In appreciation

		The Unitarian Universalist Barnstar
		In appreciation of your efforts to enhance the depth and scope of Wikipedia content relating to religion. Ecoleetage (talk) 12:00, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for helping to spread the word! Ecoleetage (talk) 12:00, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

6/9 DYK

On 9 June, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Archdiocese of the Old Catholic Church of America, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Bedford ^Pray 01:42, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Kalki on the fringe theory notice board

I just recently learned of this discussion. I was never alerted to the fact that I was being maligned without a chance to defend my edits. I have posted a few comments there. Thank you for defending me in my stead. --Ghostexorcist (talk) 18:47, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Re:Graphics help

I'm not sure if you've been offered any help yet; so I thought I'd throw this in. You might have some luck requesting the awards to be done at WP:GL/IMPROVE. That's where most of the WikiGraphists hangout. Hope that helps you in your searches. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 02:08, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Warning

Do not revert official warnings. That can be a blocking offense. I use many words when I warn people, but it was an official warning to cease disruption. You may answer, delete, but not revert. Reverting edits is for vandalism. Please behave according to the WP:TALK that you frequently cite. Geogre (talk) 20:10, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

In all honesty, sir, given your own recent behavior, I can honestly say that I am surprised that you are even aware of that guideline. The message was seen and acknowledged, and can be found in the history. John Carter (talk) 20:12, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

"Users may freely remove comments from their own talk pages, though archiving is preferred." - Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines#User talk pages Ottava Rima (talk) 03:37, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

"The removal of a warning is taken as evidence that the warning has been read by the user." No harm done here. Any harm that was done, was done by the nature of the warning: "trolling, whinging, and combative" is not the way to refer to an established editor. There is a difference between a warning and an attack. DGG (talk) 04:42, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi

HI John I'm back briefly, I'll try to edit when I don't feel so hazy and my eyes streaming. At present the Clarityn seems to have kicked in (as I speak though some Grade A pr**k has begun mowing the grass down the street). Mid afternoon is the best time to edit when the pollen is at its lowest. I;ve created Template:Location map American Samoa, Template:Location map Guam and Template:Location map Anguilla. I'm awaiting the coordinates for the last two. It was initially my plan to do the Pacific Islands last and to tackle some larger countries in Asia and Africa first but as long as we have info to go on. If you could help set up the wikiproject this would be great whether it is a task force of missing encyclopedic or WP:Cities I don't mind. The first task is to ensure such existing articles are up to scratch before adding new content. Your thoughts? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 14:06, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Centralised Discussion

John, I am delighted that we have achieved consensus. I think your idea was to centralise discussion at the Missing encyclopedic articles subpage. I'm not sure about this, as I think we promised a separate WikiProject, but I'll be interested to hear your thoughts. Before contacting the people who have volunteered to help, I think we need to organise our central location, and remove the existing lists - these no longer conform to the community's expectations.

Instead, what I suggest is we get a single page up and then discuss there amongst ourselves how to organise this, before bringing the volunteers onboard - then we can start small on American Samoa and prove the principle. Organisation is the key however, so let's quickly get the structures in place, and this will work much more smoothly. Fritzpoll (talk) 14:25, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Sounds reasonable. Yes I think the missing encyclopedia group is better too. I;ve never had anything to do with WP:Cities really to be honest. If we intend using the bot for other geographical features too then this would be best. Also it is in coordination with what has already been started. If WP:Cities wants active involve I don't see why they couldn't become a part of it. Might I suggest simply Wikipedia:WikiProject Missing encyclopedic articles/Places work group or something like this. I think it might be a bit awkward if it was the "Fritzpoll Bot task force " ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 14:27, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Count me for any help -- TinuCherian ^{(Wanna Talk?)} - 14:28, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Christ Catholic Church (Pruter)

On 10 June, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Christ Catholic Church (Pruter), which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--BorgQueen (talk) 21:24, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Archdiocese of Chihuahua

John, I'm afraid that we need to quickly find a consensus whether to re-direct or not on the RC Diocese of X controversy-Malleus redirected the above page and I couldn't find it at first, which was aggravating as I've been trying to flesh it out for ages (and it happens to be my diocese). What say ye?--Lyricmac (talk) 12:36, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Geobot organisational structure

Ideas seem to be flooding in, and we need to centralise this and publicise it quite soon - if we don't hear back from WP:GEOGRAPHY soon, I prose letting me move the subpage to WP:Missing encyclopedic articles/Places and replace the existing contents. We can name ourselves a task force, and then get the word out. But there are some notability issues to settle, including a possible compromise involving lists. Fritzpoll (talk) 12:20, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

What I'd propose is that when the new project is established we have a department or sub pages dedicated to research. To compiling sources or listing potential sources for each country. What do you think?. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 14:22, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Also the compromise I think, is if there isn't enough data to have a seperate article we should create lists by district of province so at least all places have some recognition even if they don't have seperate article yet. We could create redirects to tables which lists the places with the wiki globe and other data within them until there is enough info to write an article. I am certian more info will become avilabale as we progress, it would be interesting to see what could be found in a library though. Anyway I;ve bought a book on Burkina Faso and plan to buy the Benin one, so I am trying to increase coverage ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 14:25, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

I've been drawing up a full list of official statistical sites by country at List of national and international statistical services. Then this can be copied to the new project. Sound good? What I also want is to create an extra column in the project space for the email addresses of these countries and sites so we can request a brochure of population statistics and other data that they have on a personal. I believe as the project is set up we need to email each of the countries to maximise our chances of botaining the data ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 13:37, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Actually it was based on the recommendation by User:Sadalmelik who has done extensive work on writing "full stub" class articles on undeveloped parts of Africa, who I believe has requested information already on places like Madagascar. He has said on many occasions that requesting the information from the government contacts rather than an old silly Joe by email and getting them to publish it on the main site would be a good idea as wikipedia is such a noted site that many will be willing to release the information. We of course want the data to be a reliable as possible and not have to be faced with reliable sources didspute like me did with Sarvagnya before ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 14:22, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Yes I;ve read your comments about how many start class articles could be written on places in Afghanistan if we get hold of some info. It is the same for anywhere and remember though the travel guides are mostly summaries of the countries. I'd imagine there would be specialist books or documents available on some areas within countries. But for many of the developing countries obtaining decent guide slike Lonely Planet and the Bradt guides is the best way to go. You might want to see if you can get hold of a Bradt guide on some places too, the more obscure African countries etc. I've currently got a Discovery Channel book on Peru and in it is a photo of a Peruvian monk in a HUGE!! library in one of the Peruvian cities. It literally has hundreds of thousands of books many of them several inches wide. It made me think just what would be found in places like that all over the world and how ridiculous the coverage of wikipedia in many parts of the world is to what is avialable in such places. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 14:34, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Did you know there isn't even a wikiproject for Athletics?? A sport that covers a huge amount of sub topics like that with no project to support it? We have Wikipedia:WikiProject Running but shouldn't this really be moved to WikiProject Athletics? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 14:58, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Graphics Lab Request

Hey. Your request requires your attention. XcepticZP (talk) 17:00, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Question about your Bible article

What is it all about? I am confued.---Brian Alexander (talk) 19:20, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Afghanistan

Hi John. Congrats on your work on Afghanistan!. It is magnificent to see that most of the "permastubs" are actually mentioned in some books. This reaffirms my belief that the bot ought to be creating all of these places anyway as if research is done they can all be epxanded in some way or form. Do you have any info on any villages in Badghis province as I have finished adding Badakshan and am now working on Badghis. Its good to see you have found some resources to improve it ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 14:31, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Could you expand Kokcha River. I just started it, Check out the flickr images too. If only we could easily make flickr agreements and upload such images. I thought you might have wanted to discuss your books ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 16:07, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Thats a good idea as part of the new project is to expand/cleanup or standardize existing articles before they are created and improve general quality, I wasn't certain how much Fritz was into that, as I want to use the bot to add the infoboxes to the backlog of about 20,000 french communes that are missing them. I;ve been adding infboxes to some of the Ethiopian towns of late. Llywych has done a great job with the woredas and articles. If we can get most of the developing world countries up to that sort of level things will develop rapidly. Looking yesterday I found cities in Benin, Liberia and Guinea with 200,000 people which are one liners which given the size of them is not acceptable. KUTGW ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 16:39, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm slightly confused by Altan Jalab. It is also called Atin Jilao?? Is this is Badakhshan Province? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 18:59, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Mmm if it is dated then it is problematic. A lot has changed since the Soviet Afghan war in the 1980s and many of the names may have been altered or settlement establishments changing considerably. We've had problems with Burkinabe and Nigerien provinces which have changed even in the last few years. If the names are from the early twentieth, 100 years on things are likely to have changed considerably. I can think of numerous examples around the world which were hamlets in 1900 and by 2008 are cities with 50,000 + people. Also be careful with the infobox names. Amrut is not named in the infobox. Were these coordinates in the book? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 19:07, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

If you have the coordinates in the book, that is enough for me to verify location. I couldn't find any of them on the web though, which again shows that there are many places not picking up on google maps. I dread to think how much isn't listed on google ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 19:19, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

NA

John, I am in the process of creating a new article. Its now still in the sandbox as you suggested under User:Wikidas/Govinda_Dev. I have done some research its not finished, however there is already an article Govind Dev Ji temple a stub, which really is just a part of the story of my article with the same name as my article can be. Can you please advise on how to develop it and if to expand the existing article or to create a new article to which the existing will be a sub article? Thank you. Wikidās ॐ 19:21, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks John. I think I will do as you suggest. Wikidās ॐ 19:41, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Christianity templates

Hi. Please note that I'm not changing any of the templates, but updating and making their categorization mutually consistent (e.g. merging duplicate categories) per template category hierarchies elsewhere. This might help. Probably best to continue your input on Carlaude's talkpage. Sardanaphalus (talk) 20:42, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Priory of Sion Peer Review

Hello. You would be interested in participating in the peer review of the Priory of Sion article? --Loremaster (talk) 11:28, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Is there an easy on wiki talk item

That can explain what is happening at history project? if it isnt dont bother - but one wonders whats up as an outsider to the events :( SatuSuro 14:20, 14 June 2008 (UTC) Thanks for that - continual reverting surely is some sort of issue - trust it is resolved it sure makes the project look no worth venturing near when that sort of stuff is going on SatuSuro 14:54, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

March of the Penguins rewrite

May you take a look at the recent rewrite an anon user made to March of the Penguins and comment in the talk page whether or not you think the changes are on the POV side, as well as appropriate for the article. --ZeWrestler ^Talk 16:58, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

• Yes, that is exactly what I was talking about. I've reverted the article. Thank you for looking into the issue. --ZeWrestler ^Talk 18:04, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Your response

Thanks You've been very helpful about WikiProject stuff in the past. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 17:34, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

DYK

On 15 June, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Church of Daniel's Band, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Gatoclass (talk) 10:03, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

New project to coordinate GEOBOT proposed at WP:Councils

Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals#WikiProject Missing Encyclopedia articles/Geography task force has been formally requested. Please feel free to add further comment. The sooner we get an official framework to coordinate established the sooner the bot can start work! ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 19:40, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Have we got somewhere to base our work yet? I can't do a lot with the bot until we have a centralised discussion point that we can advertise Fritzpoll (talk) 19:06, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Geography/Bot has been started. I've waited long enough with no response ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 21:15, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Sayh Diba

An article that you have been involved in editing, Sayh Diba, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sayh Diba. Thank you. Do you want to opt out of receiving this notice? brewcrewer (yada, yada) 18:21, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Assessment

The pages Christopher Smart, Jubilate Agno, Hymns and Spiritual Songs (book), Hymns for the Amusement of Children, The Parables of Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ (book), and A Song to David need assessment. Christopher Smart was a devote Anglican poet and his poetry reflects his patriotic and religious fervor. Thanks. Ottava Rima (talk) 03:27, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

OMG John. How dare you assess Hymns for the Amusement of Children‎ as start class. Didn't you know how important that was? Didn't you know that assessments mean everything here? Clearly, this is a FA class article. CLEARLY. Any edits to that page would severely damage the greatness of that page. Who do you think you are for assessing things as "start". Thats an insult to me and to Wikipedia. Just kidding. Thanks for all the hard work and putting up banners. :) Ottava Rima (talk) 13:39, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Could you check Hymns for the Amusement of Children to see if there is enough "critical response"/critical reception? Ottava Rima (talk) 02:01, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Portal Review

Could you take a look at the new Ancient Near East portal? I'd like to submit it for a Featured Portal review when I find/improve a few more articles for the "selected article" section, and would welcome any feedback you could offer at this time.

Thanks, IansAwesomePizza (talk) 21:51, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Award templates

Hello John!

One user has started creating tempates for Award winning films of Filmfare and National film awards. Here they are: {{FilmfareCriticsAwardBestMovie}}, {{NationalFilmAwardBestFeatureFilm}}, {{NationalFilmAwardBestActor}}, and even categories -- which means he will continue creating templates for all the categories.

I personally have no problem with such templates (actually there are similar templates for the Oscars), but I'm afraid it will make articles cluttered and overly loaded with templates. This user, who is a newcomer, seems to be a valuable editor. I asked him to stop creating templates until I get some consultation, because I don't want him to get finished to find out how his hard work is deleted. That's why I turn to you. Please tell me what your opinion of the matter is. Regards, Shahid • ^Talk2me 17:59, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Hey, are you here? Shahid • ^Talk2me 17:38, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the interest

but, you're welcome to contribute without all the folder all! ping Talk pages and watchlists aren't my friends, 'cept for the auto-notices banner. Cheers, and nice to meetchya // FrankB 19:56, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

DYK

On 18 June, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Mosque of the Cloak of the Prophet Mohammed, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Gatoclass (talk) 06:50, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

DYK

On 18 June, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Shrine of Hazrat Ali, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Gatoclass (talk) 13:40, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

I added some images and in doing so found the article already exists at Rawze-e-Sharif. Perhaps you could redirect it? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 15:09, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Nazisem

Hi! This user continues to delete sourced and discussed (here and here) informations in the Nazism article. In addition he has insulted me various times. Please do something. --Esimal (talk) 19:37, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Bum

Perhaps you could unlock the Bum, Afghanistan page. It won't authorize me to start it ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 13:36, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Xiutwel and 9/11

Hey John Carter, check out the section entitled hello on my talk page and inform me at User:Redmarkviolinist/Talkpage2 on how I dealt with the questions that Xiutwel asked me. Cheers, ṜέđṃάяķvюĨїήīṣŢ ^{Drop me a line}_{Review Me!} 18:43, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

The Novels WikiProject Newsletter - Issue XXV - June 2008

The June 2008 issue of the Novels WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you. SteveBot (owner) 02:30, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Bum, Afghanistan

I have watchlisted this page, and will protect it if you're not online. Seen the new developments at WP:GEOBOT? Fritzpoll (talk) 16:24, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Block request for User:Angrygirl

Hi John,

I am reporting the User:Angrygirl to you now after I have exhausted all my futile actions, as you are the main co-ordinators on the "Wikiproject Christianity". This user is inserting his/her false hostility into the article, Living Stream Ministry. I had previously requested another "Admin", User:GRBerry to protect the article. He blocked the article from editing for 7 days, hoping that some mutual agreement would result in between. Nothing happened, there is no communication from the other side! Also, it seems that this user is NOT a good-faith editor as it is visible from his/her arrogance. I put some of the facts in the article's discussion page to support my reverting of his/her edits, and also left a comment on her/his user's talk page regarding that. If you review the history of the events, on User:Angrygirl's page, article's talk page, Mr. GRBerry's talk page, and my talk page, you can understand the situation better and in detail. Please do something! Thanks.

Yours faithfully,

HopeChrist (talk) 18:54, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Personal attacks

Please tell me what is the right place to report personal attacks [3] [4] [5] - thanks! --windyhead (talk) 20:54, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Creating geo lists

Hi I've made an intital suggestion at the GEOBOT talk page in that it would be an excellent idea to generate a full lists of places in a tabled list. Once this is accomplished we can work through what articles could be started in their own right if there is enough info avilabale. I see it as a solid comprehensive base to build geo content on if we have a full world list organized like this. See Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Geography/Bot#Creating lists. Please offer your thoughts thanks ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 14:25, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Cheers. I think I;ve come up with a good solution with the tables. Let me know what you think on the project page. Thanks ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 15:24, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Seems there is at least one Somali on wikipedia. Check out the Somali language in Xasan Xayle. Also see [*www.ceelwaaq.com. A website on a small town. A wonder how long it will before every every african village or town has its own website in full english. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 23:19, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi could you move Flora and fauna of Seychelles to Wildlife of Seychelles. It is part of the African series. Once developed enough there should be seperate page on flora of and fauna of . Thanks ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 15:45, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Plan

• Stage 1 -we upload the directory into the missing article space as Fritz began doing before
• Stage 2 - we dab them anyway and create redirects later depending on sources available (see below)
• Stage 3 - we copy the directory lists into the mainspace by tabled lists by district/province with coordinates with place names un-wiki-linked.
• Stage 4 -IN consultation with the relevant wikiproject or research team we evaluate which articles can be generated in their own right if additional sources can be found. If not we redirect those in which "info isn't adequate" to the lists until a later date when enough info can be found
• Stage 5-After drawing up the full world lists we are in a strong position to evaluate which articles can be started. This is when the source compling and research begins for those places in which the bot can generate new articles under "village pump criteria" Sound good?

♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 19:37, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Well remember thats being largely deceptive, for many of the more "obscurer countries" it will be the same small tema of editors checking things up. You and I form the team on many of the projects anyway. But where there is a project or members it is necessary we consult them. E.g we generate tabled lists of places in Oceania anyway in the mainspace with coordinates and once the process is done we highlight those where there are sources to make a seperate article valid. Where possible we could have population in the tabled lists anyway. Its just where there is enough content, or we know the article can be expanded after bot creation we create seperate articles. I think it is necessray groundwork to get the two million places mentiond in the encyclopedia first before we generate seperate articles on them. A major par tof it intially is uploading the directory as before and using the bot to generate lists of pages inthe mainspace by country. This is the first step I think. The next step then is to seek out potential sources by country and draw up places which the bot could start individually which is beyond the sub stub as before. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 19:58, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Thats not what I said. Stage 1 is to upload them to the wikipedia project directory space and dab/sort them into organizational chunks as before. Later comes the transferring to the mainspace and redirects are created ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 20:06, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Thats exactly what I mean ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 20:12, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Something like this etc. If we could have a basic overview of every settlement like this it would make a big difference I think:

List of cities, towns and villages in Badakhhan Province

Place name	Official name	District	Description	Altitude	Nearest settlements	Map/coordinates
Ab Gach	Āb Gach	Bald District	It is on the left bank of the Ab-i-Wakhan about a mile upstream of the meeting of that river and the Amu Darya.	450m	About ten miles southwest of Kala Panja	36°59′N 72°42′E
Amurn	Āmūrn		Located on the M41 motoway which connects it with Tajikistan near the border
Andowj	Andowj
Anjoman	Anjoman
Arakht	Arakht
Arghandakan	Arghandakān
Artin Jelow	Ārtīn Jelow
Arun	Ārūn
Ashkasham	Ashkāsham
Ashnam	Āshnām
Baharak	Bahārak

♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 21:32, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Well I'd like to extend the project to all geogrpahical features naturally of course. However for geogrpahical features such as lakes, rivers etc I'd recommend different lists and possibly in A-Z format by country as oftne features such as rivers/mountains overlap provinces ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 21:41, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Please discuss on Talk:Living Stream Ministry

Hello John,

I would like you to help and participate in the discussion on Talk:Living Stream Ministry page. I believe it should not be a long and complex one. The User:Angrygirl finally spoke some words. I am happy and would like to resolve this issue as soon as possible. Thanks. HopeChrist (talk) 04:46, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Dear JRCarter: I would like for you to point out how my additions to the article's talk page have not been civil or examples personal attacks. I have merely pointed out that persons belonging to Living Stream Ministry (LSM) are INCAPABLE of making unbiased edits. I have not participated in any article vandalism. And I would like you to know that I consider your comments UNCIVIL and on the level of PERSONAL ATTACKS. Wikipedia maintains that content of articles should be UNBIASED. The edits I have been making to the page are just that...unbiased and FACTUAL. It appears to me that you are not taking into account the nature of this conflict. Please do not take sides with someone just because you are in their "church" or organization. As a member of Wikipedia you should recognize that content to LSM article, whether the edits depict LSM in a positive or negative light, should be included as long as they are FACTUAL!!! I will pursue this with other Wikipedia editors if you are not willing to respect Wikipedia's policy on Neutral Point of View (NPOV). Thank you!Angrygirl (talk) 21:43, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Pascal Chimbonda‎

Why did you remove the Wikiproject France and add WikiProject Caribbean? He has one cap for France and there-for can't play for the Guadeloupe. Govvy (talk) 21:24, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Na, it's okay, that makes sense what you said, seems more logical what you did. Govvy (talk) 21:31, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

George H. Lang for WP:Christianity

Hi John,

First of all thanks for the help on the Living Stream Ministry page. Also, could you please "review" the article George H. Lang for its inclusion in the WP:Christianity. Also, (if possible), please check for the grammatical and spelling mistakes. Thanks. HopeChrist (talk) 01:31, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

SarekOfVulcan RFA

Thank you for !voting on my RfA. If you supported, I'll make sure your confidence is not misplaced; if you opposed, I'll take your criticism into account and try to adjust my behavior accordingly.

See you around the wiki!--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 00:12, 1 July 2008 (UTC)