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Bible Book Chapter article clean-up

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Obviously, no obligation to work on this any more than you feel like it, but if you want a summary of some of the issues involved, relevant background is here: [1]. Alephb (talk) 04:00, 2 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

Just removed the Structure sections from all the chapters mentioned in that discussion (as well as all of them in Aleph B's giant comment), including virtually all the chapters in Jonah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Ruth, Lamentations, Hosea, Amos, Zechariah, Malachi, Isaiah, Joel, Zephaniah, Haggai, and Habakkuk. I also went ahead and did the entire New Testament. I'll see if I'll go ahead and finish up the Old Testament later. My estimation is that I just took care of about 300 pages right there. Whew.Wallingfordtoday (talk) 05:56, 3 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
It looks like this problem doesn't even exist in the Pentateuch chapters (most of which don't exist, it turns out) or in the Psalms. If there are any books you notice that still have the problem, let me know.Wallingfordtoday (talk) 17:19, 3 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
Holy cow. Well done! Alephb (talk) 22:21, 3 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
So as not to leave you all alone in caring for these articles, I've been following along the articles that you edited that show up in my watchlist (if you don't know about watchlists, feel free to ask). I've been removing bits that are cited to unreliable sources, especially the Nelson Study Bible. If you're at all interested in a list of the some of the unreliable sources that seem to crop up way to often in the more obscure Bible-related articles, I've got an incomplete list here: [User:Alephb/QuestionableSources]. Some of the bits cited to unreliable source also plagiarize the unreliable sources without any clear indication that verbatim quotes are being stated in Wiki-voice, so there's that too. Alephb (talk) 20:45, 4 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
Thanks. My workload is about to crop up pretty quickly over the next month, so I'll see if I can do anything here and there. Good job on compiling those unreliable sources, makes things much easier. Wallingfordtoday (talk) 21:05, 4 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
Oh, sure. There's five million articles to work on and real life to get to as well. Heck, I'd more or less abandoned the chapter articles till they showed up on my watchlist lately. Each day, I'll work either as much as I want or not at all on them, and I fully expect everyone else do either no work or some work on them as well! Alephb (talk) 21:11, 4 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
Also, for reference, a while back I made up a list of which Bible chapters have articles. Not sure it's 100% up-to-date, though I'll add or subtract articles whenever I'm aware of being out of date. User:Alephb/ChapterList. Alephb (talk) 21:13, 4 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
Just went through all 66 chapters of Isaiah and removed a couple hundred unreliable sources and dealt with a variety of other issues. Isaiah 52, before I dealt with it, was probably the worst page I've ever seen. If you don't include quoting the KJV or things like that, I think there aren't any more unreliable sources in Isaiah. Your list of questionable sources helped.Wallingfordtoday (talk) 03:05, 6 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
Eh, I'm not too worried about quoting the KJV. If the KJV messes up a verse, it can always be replaced on a case-by-case basis. What gets me is the weird assembly line of pulling specific details from unreliable sources and then just sort of dumping them into the articles without any semblance of producing an article that summarizes the chapter. Glad the list was useful to somebody. Alephb (talk) 03:35, 6 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

Studium generale

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Hello. I reversed your edits to the Studium generale page. Perhaps my wording during the reversal was a little harsh. I know you put a lot of work into them, but your edits were very mistaken, evincing confusion about the topic, and your cavalier dismissal of Rashall's work was rather shocking. I am reaching out, because I was afraid my reversal might appear mean-spirited. I assure you they are not. I'd be happy to discuss the topic further, and any improvements, in the talk page. But your edits, as they were, were untenable. Walrasiad (talk) 22:54, 7 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

Alright, let's discuss this on the talk page. I may have been to quick to dismiss Rashdall given the date of his work.Wallingfordtoday (talk) 23:04, 7 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

Gospel of Mark

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Hi, I noticed in your edits to the Gospel of Mark article that references to Steve Walton were to "ref name=steve" - I believe this should be "ref name=Walton" referencing the last name, not the first (I didn't want to wade in an correct your edits in case you had a reason to do it this way) - also, Walton's "What Are the Gospels?" is not included in the Bibliography section of the References (I don't know why this is when he is cited in the article) - cheers - Epinoia (talk) 19:06, 27 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

Referencing his first name is just something I threw in when I was making the edit, though per your point I changed the name to his last. I also added Burridge's book to the bibliography, tho I don't know if I should add the paper to the bibliography. Perhaps later.Wallingfordtoday (talk) 19:29, 27 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

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