User talk:WWB/2008

Busboys and Poets

A proposed deletion template has been added to the article Busboys and Poets, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice should explain why (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page. Also, please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. If you agree with the deletion of the article, and you are the only person who has made substantial edits to the page, please add {{db-author}} to the top of Busboys and Poets. brewcrewer (yada, yada) 06:57, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Andy Shallal

A proposed deletion template has been added to the article Andy Shallal, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice should explain why (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page. Also, please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. If you agree with the deletion of the article, and you are the only person who has made substantial edits to the page, please add {{db-author}} to the top of Andy Shallal. brewcrewer (yada, yada) 06:59, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

difference between prod and speedy

Hi. I didn't nominate it for "speedy deletion", which is this: Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion. Rather I "prodded" it - Wikipedia:Proposed deletion. Among the differences is that even if it is deletable it won't happen that fast, so you'll have a few says to find reliable sources that establish the notability. Best, --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 07:12, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Another difference between the two is that the hang-on tags only apply to speedies (as they can be deleted very fast), but not to prods. --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 07:15, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

You can actually remove the PROD on your own if you wish (unlike a speedy). If I may make a suggestion - to ensure that the subject is notable enough for Wikipieda you might want to merge the owner article into the resteraunt article and have the owner article redirect to the resteraunt article. It might strenghten the article. --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 07:26, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

woops

(removed the template) the green on my page wasn't done by me. I am clueless when it comes to these fancy stuff. You can try to copy and paste it from may talk-page or you can ask the dude that did it for me to do it for you. --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 07:49, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

COI

You confirmed that you are in the employ of Disney to write articles in a recent Wired article. Writing about Disney for money is a clear violation of our conflict of interest rules. You previously violated our COI policy by authoring an article about your own company. I see that you've now ceased editing it, which was the right thing to do. Please explain about the Disney connection. Steven Walling (talk) 23:12, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

I see you've decided to use a legitimate sock puppet, User:NMS Bill to make suggestions on pages. That's a good way to go. But I'm going to also ask you point blank: are you User:My New Animated Life? This account has done nothing but create content about Disney films in a similar manner as was described in the piece and in a similar time frame as your accounts. If so, this is illegitimate sock puppetry and a violation of COI. Steven Walling (talk) 23:48, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Hello, Steven. I've been away from Wikipedia for a few days, or I would have responded sooner. I appreciate you writing, and I take your concerns about WP:COI seriously. I take the guideline seriously myself, and I believe I have taken great care to avoid problems that can arise from such edits.

The way I understand the COI behavioral guidelines, and as other editors have interpreted them for me, the primary concern is edits which are non-neutral or use marketing language or otherwise do not conform to Wikipedia content guidelines. I am very careful with my client-related edits, and I believe that all of my contributions will stand up to close scrutiny.

To take the issues you raise one by one: In August 2007, using this account, I worked with an uninvolved editor to create a page for my employer; most of these discussions are on this Talk page. I posted a draft to my user space, sought input from the community, and received solid advice. Once this editor was satisfied that the article met Wikipedia content guidelines, I moved it into the mainspace. I have since ceased editing any client-related pages using WWB; it has reverted to being my personal account.

However, I do occasionally edit the New Media Strategies article using NMS Bill. After discussing COI issues with other editors at the Village pump, I created this secondary account initially to just make suggestions on behalf of Disney. Before long, the lead coordinator for WikiProject Films suggested to me that so long as my edits were constructive, COI rules did not bar me from editing these pages myself. This seems to fit with the decision in RFA:Starwood. The user page for NMS Bill also contains a more detailed version of this explanation.

Lastly, I am not User:My New Animated Life and was not familiar with him or her until your note. My edits for Disney are all through NMS Bill.

I realize that others in the Wikipedia community will view this activity skeptically, and generally with good reason. This is why I have sought community advice, and why I work very hard to avoid POV and to make sure that all of my edits make Wikipedia better. I hope that explains things to your satisfaction, but I am certainly willing to discuss it further, if you'd like. WWB (talk) 20:44, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Re:Books on Political Positions

Good catch. My read of him is he goes dormant after being caught, then springs up again when no admins are around to threaten him with blocks, or when some other editor engages in the same sort of tit for tat.

If Books or someone just like him resurfaces, it happens again, please consider throwing up a sock puppetry notice, and if the article gets out of hand with newbies POV pushing left, right or purple, let me know and I'll semi protect.--Tznkai (talk) 06:20, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

National Alliance for Hispanic Health deletion

Hello Excirial, I'm curious about an article that you had a hand in deleting about a month ago, called National Alliance for Hispanic Health. According to the warnings, it sounds like the article was written using advertising language, and that it wasn't the first time it had been created/deleted. I heard about the issue from someone I know who works with them, who asked if I could look into it. I've done some basic research and it stands to reason that the group should pass WP:NOTE, and that a neutral, reliably sourced article would stand. I'd like to give a try at writing it. Looking at the deletion review policy, it seems I might be able to recreate it without issue, but because it was created and deleted more than once, I'd like to be sure it's not blocked or otherwise flagged. Let me know when you get a chance. (Also, I'm going to pose this same question to the editor who deleted the page in May). Thanks. WWB (talk) 16:00, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Your indeed right that an article that has previously been deleted can be recreated without a problem, unless the page in question is Salted. In this case no salt has been applied to the article, as i can only find record of one removal. However once an article is (re)created it will again be checked if it meets the guidelines. If no problem is found then it can stay just like any other article. But if violates any removal based policies it can be tagged for WP:CSD, WP:AFD or WP:PROD at any time. In short: Feel free to recreate, but make sure its not advertising like last time :) Excirial ^{(Talk,Contribs)} 10:31, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks very much for the note. I've got my research together, so later tonight I will try creating a new, guideline-appropriate entry. Cheers, WWB (talk) 14:27, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

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Very cold, must type about the Oregon COTW to stay warm

Hello again from WikiProject Oregon’s Collaboration of the Week HQ. Since there was no notice last time, thanks to those who helped improve Mike Riley and Mike Bellotti at the begging of the month and to those who helped create Oregon Department of Justice and Lindsay Applegate last week. Those last two were the red links with lots of links to them from other articles (DOJ was #1). For this week, in honor of Arctic Blast/Winter Storm/Damn its Freakin’ Cold Outside 2008/Storm of the Century/Is there ANYTHING else on going on in the world?/We Might Actually Have a White Christmas, we have Snow Bunny. Then as part of the Stub elimination drive, we have state senator Margaret Carter, which could easily be turned into a nice DYK entry once expanded 5X. As always, click here to opt out of these messages, or click here to make a suggestion for a future COTW. Have a Holly Jolly Christmas/Hanukah/ Kwanzaa/Winter Solstice. Aboutmovies (talk) 08:15, 22 December 2008 (UTC)