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Sea Sponge Aquaculture

This article is an amazing debut! Thanks for writing it!! Melchoir (talk) 05:34, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

(I hope you don't mind if I make some very minor formatting changes. I'll explain the edits as I go.) Melchoir (talk) 05:36, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

Yes, thanks for that article Vazishta. That's a great start. --Epipelagic (talk) 08:09, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

Thank you! It's for an assignment that is due today, I'm just working on uploading some pictures at the moment, copy right free of course. Would love to keep modifying the page after the assignment has been handed in though, so would be totally open to any suggestions. VazishtaA (talk) 21:10, 29 September 2011 (UTC)VazishtaA

{{Help me}} I didn't realize that the footnotes were supposed to go after the punctuation marks till after I had manually changed the citing style. Is there a way I can automatically move the footnotes after the punctuation? Or do I have to do this manually?VazishtaA (talk) 00:31, 30 September 2011 (UTC)VazishtaA

All taken care of and a few other tweaks. I used a peer reviewer script (see the edit summary) which fixes this automatically. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 00:42, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

Thats absolutely brilliant! Thank you! VazishtaA (talk) 00:46, 30 September 2011 (UTC)VazishtaA

You're most welcome. By the way, mirroring those above, an amazing effort by a new user (sadly, we see this rarely). One suggestion. Take a look at Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Lead section. Basically, articles should begin with a stand-alone lead section that gives an overview of the content that is sourced in the body of the article. Generally, you do not need to cite any material there, if it's already cited below; just summarize the salient points of the article (the first sentence is typically a broad definition, with the first mention of the topic appearing early and boldfaced, e.g., "Sea sponge aquaculture is the..." If you take a look at some featured articles you'll get an idea of how the lead section normally appears.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 00:50, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

Aha! You first posted this article today. That means it's eligible for an appearance on the main page in the Did you know? section. I'd happily nominate this for you if you want, and of course would take any suggestion you'd like for the "hook".--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 00:56, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

Hi, sure feel free to nominate me for the Did you know section! I'll take those suggestions on board! VazishtaA (talk) 01:26, 30 September 2011 (UTC)VazishtaA Stand alone section completed, time to go hand in my assignment, thank you for all your help! VazishtaA (talk) 02:01, 30 September 2011 (UTC)VazishtaA

Great. Quick work on making a lead. I have tweaked the opening. In the first sentence we must tell the reader what the topic means. If you launch in without introducing the topic, people are lost if they are not already familiar and they move on. I made the first sentence "Sea sponge aquaculture is the process of farming sea sponges under controlled conditions." Please do tweak if this is not a good definition. I'll do the DYK soon (it must be done within five days of creation or never).--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 03:01, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

Images

Hey, about this image, you said "...to specifically use in my wikipedia page". I hope Andrew Jeffs is aware that in releasing the images under a free license, he's allowing anyone to use them for any purpose. You might want to go back and clarify that with him, just to be sure. Melchoir (talk) 05:48, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

Well, it was his original work and he gave me permission to use it as an image for my wikipedia page. The free license agreement seemed the only suitable category to put the image under. Is there another category that would be more suitable? VazishtaA (talk) 07:27, 30 September 2011 (UTC)VazishtaA

Unfortunately, no, there isn't really a way to get around licensing requirements. Wikipedia itself is freely licensed, and (almost all) media used by Wikipedia also needs to be freely licensed. To quote from Wikipedia:Image use policy#Free licenses:

• For a list of possible licenses which are considered "free enough" for Wikipedia, see Wikipedia:Image copyright tags. Licenses which restrict the use of the media to non-profit or educational purposes only (i.e. non-commercial use only), or are given permission to only appear on Wikipedia, are not free enough for Wikipedia's usages or goals and will be deleted.[1].

So, I'd really recommend making sure that he's authorizing you to release the images under one of these licenses. Melchoir (talk) 17:57, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

I was reviewing the DYK nomination and have emailed Andrew Jeffs to ask about the permission. If he confirms that he is happy with the licence then I will forward it to the confirmation team on commons and then there is no risk of them being deleted in the future. SmartSE (talk) 20:05, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

Problems

Hi VazishtaA. As you can see from above, there has been considerable activity with your contributions involving other editors since you started editing. There seem to be similar things happening in aquaculture elsewhere, but the other activities are proving difficult and confusing. For example, on sea cucumber, there has been activity from different IPs: this one and this one from Auckland University and this one from some unclear locality in Auckland. It is impossible to know if different editors are involved, or if it is one editor who keeps changing the IP. I wasted a lot of time trying to work out what was going on, and whether other IPs were vandalizing. I think it is one user changing IPs, and that makes it impossible to communicate with this person because s/he keeps moving on. Frustrating. Another user who I guess also comes from Auckland is Swastika.lal who is working on the aquaculture of cobia. There is a similar MO with all these editors, such as the way they cite and format references, don't provide online refs and so on.

Like you I live in Auckland. I also look after Wikipedia articles on aquaculture and fisheries, so I think it is GREAT you guys are doing this. I would like to help with some of this stuff, but it is difficult in the current chaos. It would be a really good idea if your instructor coordinated with established Wikipedia editors, and most particularly if all the contributing students created proper accounts. Without some coordination, there can be a lot of unnecessary work and the value of what you guys offer can be diminished. Would you please give your instructor the link to Wikipedia:School and university projects, and suggest it would be helpful if s/he set out what was going on over there. Thanks. --Epipelagic (talk) 08:06, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

-Hi thanks for raising this issue, our post graduate aquaculture class had an assignment in which we had to create a wikipedia page on a "stub" or a completely new page with some relation to aquaculture. This has proved considerably challenging and many of us underestimated the amount of time that it takes to upload a page onto wikipedia. As a result, the references and articles that were originally written in MSword or equivalent, were not just an easy "copy and paste" job into wikipedia, as first thought. As a result, some of the citing and reference formats may have been entered incorrectly unintentionally. I have copied and pasted your issue onto our facebook discussion page, where most of our class are members so hopefully the situation will rectify itself. Sorry for the inconvenience and additional work-load, its been a significant learning curve for all of us.VazishtaA (talk) 08:36, 30 September 2011 (UTC)VazishtaA

-I've contacted both the people on the pages, and they should be in touch with you on their User pages shortly. VazishtaA (talk) 09:26, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

I identified six of your colleagues, and nominated five of their contributions for the following DYKs:

• Coral aquaculture
• Aquaculture of cobia
• Octopus aquaculture
• Aquaculture of sea cucumber
• Offshore aquaculture

I didn't have time to prepare the sixth, Aquaculture of brine shrimp. Generally, the contributions have been excellent. Did I miss anyone? --Epipelagic (talk) 07:52, 4 October 2011 (UTC)?

-There are about 20 people in the aquaculture class and each of us made an aquaculture page, unfortunately I am not sure about the names of each of the pages, some were completely novel pages, while other pages were stubs which have been modified.

- By novel pages I meant "new" pages, too much commercialisation research going on at the moment obviously!VazishtaA (talk) 08:22, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

Oh... I see. It's ongoing. I assumed the edits stopped after 30 September. --Epipelagic (talk) 08:34, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

-I'm not sure what you mean by ongoing? We handed in our assignments on the 30 September and have already received our marks. I meant from my previous post that there should have been approximately 20 wikipedia articles uploaded rather than just the six you've identified, but I don't know the individual names of each of the pages. VazishtaA (talk) 09:22, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

DYK

See Template talk:Did you know#Articles created/expanded on September 29 where the nomination is transcluded for review. If you want to edit the hook itself, it is at {{Did you know nominations/Sea sponge aquaculture}}. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:21, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Sea sponge aquaculture

The DYK project (nominate) 12:02, 27 October 2011 (UTC)