February 2024

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  Hello, I'm 81.187.192.168. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions have been undone because they appeared to be promotional. Advertising and using Wikipedia as a "soapbox" are against Wikipedia policy and not permitted; Wikipedia articles should be written objectively, using independent sources, and from a neutral perspective. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about Wikipedia. Thank you. 81.187.192.168 (talk) 20:21, 29 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

Sorry but I do not have any connection with written article. There is a page with all retail stores in Serbia and just wanted to add the one which one is missing. Beside that, Crafter is mentioned but it is redirected to the wrong page. Have a look yourself: https://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BF%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%B0%D0%BA_%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%86%D0%B0_%D1%81%D1%83%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BC%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%BA%D0%B5%D1%82%D0%B0_%D1%83_%D0%A1%D1%80%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%98%D0%B8 Search for "Crafter" and check where does it goes. Uli085 (talk) 20:24, 29 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

  Hello, Uli085. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on Wikipedia, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for article subjects for more information. We ask that you:

In addition, you are required by the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use to disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation. See Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure.

Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. 81.187.192.168 (talk) 20:21, 29 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

  Please do not add promotional material to Wikipedia, as you did to Crafter. While objective prose about beliefs, organisations, people, products or services is acceptable, Wikipedia is not a vehicle for soapboxing, advertising or promotion. Thank you. Jalen Folf (talk) 21:02, 29 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

Dear Jalen, please explain to me where do you see this as promo material? Here is a simple example that material and resources I explored and posted are reliable and without any promotion intentions. Word Crafter is wrongly redirected and I just wanted to make it correct.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OBI_(retail_chain)
Thank you for understanding. Dejan Uli Uli085 (talk) 21:12, 29 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
Please go to page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_supermarket_chains_in_Serbia and look for "Crafter" and tell me what do you see when you go to the link? It goes to the page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keirsey_Temperament_Sorter#Artisan This is wrong and this is reason why I created a page. I do not see any promotional value in the article, It is not correct to have any prejudges for this article.
Dejan Uli Uli085 (talk) 21:16, 29 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
  There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. I reported you to the admins. Uli085 (talk) 21:39, 29 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
This would have been solved much better if you had gone to the redirect target's Talk page, the redirect's Talk page, a relevant WikiProject's Talk page, or anywhere else, instead of just blatantly accusing me of wrongdoing like you did. Good luck with your efforts. Jalen Folf (talk) 22:10, 29 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

continuing conversation from ANI

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Uli085, you should have started a new article, using a title like Draft:Crafter (Serbia) or Draft:Crafter (Serbian chain). You should not take an existing article, even when it's just a redirect, and repurpose it for something else until you're much more experienced in how wikipedia works. Schazjmd (talk) 22:09, 29 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

After you had created a new article and it had been accepted, the wikilink on the list of chains could have been changed to point to the new article. Schazjmd (talk) 22:11, 29 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
Oh, thanks, that's make sense. My bad and thank you for patience and explanation. I just wanted to add some valuable and correct content on Wiki. I will do it as you instructed.
Friendly,
Uli085 Uli085 (talk) 22:12, 29 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
I'd go considerably further than this. Please start a draft, WP:AFC makes it easy. Writing a new article is one of the most difficult tasks for a newcomer on Wikipedia. Based on your efforts so far the pages will be sent to WP:AFD unless you improve them considerably. Drafts allow you to get feedback, and work on pages over time in a safe environment. 184.152.68.190 (talk) 22:13, 29 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
Good luck! You can always ask questions at WP:TEAHOUSE. Schazjmd (talk) 22:14, 29 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
Great! Thanks for that tip, will go to WP:AFC. Uli085 (talk) 22:15, 29 February 2024 (UTC)Reply