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Bold

I have just reverted a number of your edits because you replaced bold by italics in mathematical notation where that affects the meaning -- see MOS:BOLD#OTHER. --JBL (talk) 17:49, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

Please also consult WP:BRD. --JBL (talk) 17:50, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
Thank you; that was much more helpful than the vague edit summary you left. ~TPW 14:35, 11 May 2023 (UTC)

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Hello. Help copy edit. Thanks you. 2402:800:6344:2A73:8DE5:C07C:DACA:63E6 (talk) 14:55, 6 July 2023 (UTC)

I took a look. The copy was pretty clean!
I'm not a sports expert, but I get the sense that the "career" section has too much detail. ~TPW 15:08, 6 July 2023 (UTC)

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Case fixing

TPW, I'm happy to see your interest in helping with case fixing. I did a few hundred thousand such edits myself in the last year and half, after learning how to use JWB, but recently got careless, made too many mistakes, and got cut off, as you can see at User talk:Dicklyon#Notice of editing restriction. So now I have lots of work that I can see how to do easily, but am not allowed to. E.g. see the 7 articles I refer to in this edit. For the rest there, you've now got Fyunck(click) on your case. He fought long and hard against lowercasing Singles and Doubles in tennis articles (they were already lowercase in Olympics tennis, but not otherwise). I think I mentioned that, at that time, there was no consensus to also lowercase Men's and Women's, and he's taking that as a negotiated compromise it seems. So, proceed with caution. Let's not rush this, but we may need to open up a bigger RFC to get a more clear consensus. Unfortunately, inviting all the sports-related projects will likely draw a few more like him. Dicklyon (talk) 00:55, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the context! I get that many people are emotionally invested in capital letters; I'm more focused on equity for the visually impaired. Consensus does take time, particularly when emotions are involved. I know that the comments I make which aren't rooted in policy should be given no more weight than any other preference, but I do hope that eventually most editors will recognize how using capital letters to convey emphasis is terribly exclusionary. ~TPW 13:14, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

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Please stop moving sports articles to non-capital letters

You know this was being discussed and moving things during the discussion is considered disruptive. Moving articles like 1999 Dubai Tennis Championships – Singles or Athletics at the 1999 Pan American Games – Men's decathlon should not be happening at all. Fyunck(click) (talk) 20:34, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

There is a consensus. If the new discussion results in a different consensus, I'll conform to it. If you're saying that editors should be frozen from action when there is any pending discussion, then by that logic no sports events articles should even be created since you are questioning which case to use after a dash. ~TPW 13:13, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
NO there is not consensus at all! It was challenged immediately as bogus. You should realize this. Fyunck(click) (talk) 23:12, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
Challenging consensus is not the same as changing consensus. You should realize this. All the best. ~TPW 15:11, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
Consensus is to leave it alone. That bogus thing that someone tried to slip through was challenged immediately for not informing all the projects involved. I hope that is not what you are relying on as consensus. Even if it was ok, it is being challenged so you should have the decency not to go changing related articles while under discussion. The first few articles I simply moved back with a summary, thinking you would desist. Then you did a couple more and I brought it here. Then you moved more and I gave a warning. Then you moved still more and another warning was given. I'm not sure what more I can do here to make you understand. Fyunck(click) (talk) 06:35, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

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  Please do not move a page to a title that is harder to follow, or move it unilaterally against naming conventions or consensus, as you did to 1983 Custom Credit Australian Indoor Championships – Doubles. This includes making page moves while a discussion remains underway. We have some guidelines to help with deciding what title is best for a subject. If you would like to experiment with page titles and moving, please use the test Wikipedia. You have been told in edit summaries and on your talk page that this is disruptive editing. You have left me no choice but to give a formal warning. Fyunck(click) (talk) 23:17, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

As I told you before, my understanding is that while consensus can change, it has not yet been changed. If you are indeed giving me a "formal warning," it should include a link to the particular policy you are claiming I've violated. I am unaware of any policy that is as you have described, but I will gladly follow that policy once I have read it. Please do link to it. ~TPW 15:08, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
I also am confused about the assertion that replacing a single capital letter with the lowercase version makes anything "harder to follow." Even without a redirect, I know of no technical reason why this would be the case. Kindly provide evidence, including diffs. All the best. ~TPW 15:11, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
This isnt a question into why... that is being taken care of with the rfc "as you know!" You should be well aware of standard protocol that when there are huge disagreements as to what consensus is, you don't go making page moves while under discussion. Com'n that's wikipedia 101. But I see you continue to do the same over and over. Fyunck(click) (talk) 03:51, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
Let's be clear: I asked you for a link. Surely if one exists, you can help me find it. ~TPW 13:58, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

  Please stop. If you continue to move pages to bad titles contrary to naming conventions or consensus, as you did at Swimming at the 2015 European Games – Men's 1500 metre freestyle, you may be blocked from editing. This is an undiscussed move against longstanding consensus and you know it! You also know it is under discussion. You have been told several times and already been warned not to do it yet you continue. Fyunck(click) (talk) 18:00, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

I have to agree with Fyunck here—it is indeed disruptive to continue to move articles when a discussion is ongoing and you've been asked to stop. Ed [talk] [OMT] 04:01, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
Thanks for expressing your opinion. As I noted to the other editor, I do my best to comply with policy and consensus, and I've not yet seen any policy or consensus (or guideline, or even essay) suggesting that editors are expected to predict future consensus, rather than relying on current consensus. Any assistance you can provide in pointing me toward evidence of policy or consensus would be appreciated. ~TPW 13:57, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
You are not expected to "predict" anything, but maintaining the status quo while a discussion runs its course is a basic part of finding a new or maintaining an existing consensus on Wikipedia. See, for example, WP:TALKDONTREVERT. Please consider this a final warning. Ed [talk] [OMT] 07:00, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
With apologies, I based my response on my understanding of policy, and did not realize that you are an administrator who can enforce a different interpretation. I respectfully disagree with your suggestion that I've violated any policy; I did not, for example, revert anything, and by working with established consensus I have been seeking to maintain the status quo. That said, you have the tools to enforce your view, and I do not. All the best. ~TPW 14:14, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
I respect that you disagree, but just so we're clear: this is not my personal "view". Moving articles to your preferred title casing while there's a large RfC discussing that very question is unambiguously not "seeking to maintain the status quo", as you claim. Ed [talk] [OMT] 15:04, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
No, I'm not clear, because what you linked to didn't make it clear. I wasn't ignoring a content dispute; there is an established consensus. If anything, I'd have hoped an experienced administrator would refer to WP:CCC, to wit: "proposing to change a recently established consensus can be disruptive."
I am submitting to your authority, but I am not at all clear that you are in the right.
All the best. ~TPW 17:04, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
The ongoing RfC I linked to is obviously broader in scope and has nearly three times the participants of the other discussion. When it closes, it will either agree with or supersede the previous limited discussion. There's no deadline; let it be closed with a consensus in one way or the other. Ed [talk] [OMT] 18:44, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

  You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you move a page disruptively, as you did at Boxing at the 1984 Summer Olympics – Welterweight. This is going to wind up getting you blocked! Even an administrator has told you to stop. @The ed17:. You have now moved another three articles including Diving at the 2019 Pan American Games – Men's synchronized 10 metre platform, and Swimming at the 2013 SEA Games – Women's 200 metre butterfly Fyunck(click) (talk) 06:39, 21 October 2023 (UTC)

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