User talk:Triddle/stubsensor/20050623

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Expand tag

The expand tag is not really good. Don't we then have to write pages about a subject we know nothing about? Also Template:expand actually links to Template:expansion --Fred-Chess 10:52, Jun 26, 2005 (UTC)

Maybe the attention tag should be used. --Fred-Chess June 28, 2005 11:01 (UTC)

• I'm not sure I understand what you find wrong with Template:expansion. Personally, I find it a bit more specific than the attention tag. To me, the expansion tag asks for information to be added to an already fair-sized article whereas the attention tag implies that a lot of work needs to be done (expansion, formatting, editing, etc.) Also... using the expand tag doesn't hold you to being the one to actually do the expansion. NymphadoraTonks 29 June 2005 04:22 (UTC)

Yes . Well it implies that there is a listing of improvements found either on the listing or on the talk page. --Fred-Chess June 29, 2005 07:58 (UTC)

I agree with Fred. See the discussion at User:Triddle/stubsensor/20050623#Geography of Argentina. — Bcat (talk | email) 30 June 2005 21:05 (UTC)

changed intro of section false positives

It made little sense the way it was, and I took the liberty of changing it. Maybe I misunderstood?

--Fred-Chess 11:13, Jun 26, 2005 (UTC)

stub on uncategorized articles

This has been moved to User:Triddle/stubsensor/20050623#Object-Relational_Impedance_Mismatch

I sometimes use a stub to get someone more knowledgeable to notice that a new article has appeared and categorize it. Removing the stub tag before categorization prevents this. This happened on Object-Relational Impedance Mismatch. --MarSch 18:50, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)

to stub or not to stub?

For example: Is Austin, Chicago a stub? It has 100,000 inhabitants. The article has only some 10 sentences an infobox and another template of some kind. --Fred-Chess June 28, 2005 10:43 (UTC)

Hi Fred, Personally I think that is borderline. I would be inclined to remove the stub tag but I've found that people can get a little upset if you pull the stub tag off an article like that (especially one that deals with towns or cities). As such I've come to wait for pages to get above 3 or so paragraphs of solid text (no templates, info box, etc) before I remove the stub tag from an article about a city. Triddle June 28, 2005 17:02 (UTC)

Recurring problem

So, you may already be aware of this, but I think the stubsensor struggles with diacritics. It seems the each article with a diacritical mark is red-linked because the incorrect character has been displayed. For example, in 20050623-1 Section 21, there is a link to QuinceaÒera when the actual falsely-stubbed article is Quinceañera. I have no idea what might cause that, but I thought I'd bring it to your attention. (I have a feeling that ?tila, which I added to the False Positives list last night, might have fallen victim to the same issue.) NymphadoraTonks 29 June 2005 16:43 (UTC)

I've noticed this too. Could it have something to do with the recent change to UTF-8? — Bcat (talk | email) 29 June 2005 16:47 (UTC)

Actually I'm not entirely sure what causes this. I've noticed it to be sure but have not been able to put my finger on exactly what is causing it. I hope to get it solved soon though as it really makes things ugly and requires a human to fix it. Triddle June 29, 2005 16:49 (UTC)

I don't know anything about character sets and all that... but until the issue is resolved, is there perhaps some sort of pattern to the symbol discrepencies that anyone has noticed? Or some way to tell what character belongs there? --NymphadoraTonks 29 June 2005 17:19 (UTC)

Hello. First of all, the problem was there when I just started doing work on this, that was before the crash. I mean upgrade. The ?tila I don't know what it is. But there is a pattern, characters get replaced by the same symbols.

Coming from Sweden, this is commons with the Swedish characters. You should know the difficulties the Swedish special characters has caused me.... *sigh*.

I think it may be due to differences between ASCII and other character systems. I could guess that if you use characters from an 8-bit system and move them to a 7-bit system, this would happen, and the other way around might also lead to difficulties.

When the special characters are Scandinavian I have been able to correct them easily, which I have done to many links. Yea there is a system to it. But I don't know what ?tila is. Best regards, --Fred-Chess June 29, 2005 20:18 (UTC)

I agree, this looks alot like a character set problem. I don't know anything about Perl though, so I can't help much. Does Perl do any automatic charset conversion? — Bcat (talk | email) 29 June 2005 20:47 (UTC)

Articles Needing Attention

Hi! I'm going through the articles in need of attention page and removing any user pages I see. I realise you're using it in an educational capacity on this page, but it's appearing on the attention list which is pretty cluttered and full as it is. I hope you understand! KC. 18:25, 20 December 2005 (UTC)