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Have you found Wikipedia:Manual of Style yet? Please take a look. Otherwise keep on contributing... Phlegm Rooster (talk) 08:53, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Page move

Hello. You renamed the article Supercompact space to Compact Spaces *, and as reason, you wrote "Supercompact spaces are unimportant in other branches of mathematics". I'm afraid I have no idea what you mean. Could you please explain why you renamed the article? Thanks, Jitse Niesen (talk) 10:35, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

I am knowledgeable about the elements of topology and haven't heard such a space as supercompact. -- Topology Expert

Do you mean that you know the concept ("a topological space having a subbasis such that every open cover of the topological space from elements of the subbasis has a subcover with just two subbasis elements") but that it's, in your experience, known under a different term? If so, I wonder what name this is, and whether you could please give some evidence. Or do you mean that you have never seen the definition? That in itself does not say much; there are many terms and nobody knows them all. It is possible that Wikipedia articles contain non-existing definitions (and this has happened in the pat), but in that case the articles should be deleted according to our deletion policy. If you think an article is just made up, then it's probably best to ask to ask the writer for a reference. Alternatively, you can ask for other opinions on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Mathematics; that will bring it to the attention of many mathematicians. But in this case, "supercompact space" seems an existing term; see doi:10.1090/S0002-9939-99-05119-9. -- Jitse Niesen (talk) 16:53, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your interest in this matter. I think that supercompact spaces are very negligible in topology just as are concepts like G_delta sets. Even though they have important applications (one might say that local finiteness is useless but it is very important in defining paracompacntess and topological dimension). So what I think is that if supercompact spaces are so important, they should be defined under compact spaces. I believe that not much is there to know about these spaces; they are only useful in applications. It is impossible to know all of mathematics but it is possible to know about supercompact spaces. I think maybe I mas wrong to say that they are not important in other branches of mathematics; I should have said that they really do not have many applications. This concept is in many ways not as important as compactness and the study of compactness will clarify all the issues regarding supercompacntess.

Compact Spaces *

You moved an article to Compact Spaces *. Some immediate questions are

• Why the plural article title? Wikipedia conventions WP:MOS call for singular except when there's a special reason to use the plural.
• Why capitalize the initial s? That's also contrary to Wikipedia conventions unless there some special reason for it.
• What's the asterisk about?

Michael Hardy (talk) 13:20, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

OK, now I've moved it back, since it looks as if this may have been simply a case of unfamiliarity with standard Wikipedia conventions. Michael Hardy (talk) 13:22, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Conventions

Could you please make some attempt to learn Wikipedia's conventions? To a substantial extent just following the style conventions of other math articles would serve you well. Your new article titled locally finite collection disregards Wikipedia's conventions on formatting and bolding. It also lacks proper initial context-setting. You've got to tell the lay reader right at the beginning that mathematics is what the article is to be about; you can't just assume the person reading the article is a mathematician. Some of the difficulties caused by your style of editing are getting talked about at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Mathematics. You should see in particular Wikipedia:Manual of Style and Wikipedia:Manual of Style (mathematics). Michael Hardy (talk) 21:33, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your information. I will modify my article appropriately.

Topology Expert (talk) 04:34, 4 May 2008 (UTC)