User talk:Tompw/bookshelf

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Neat diagram. Maybe it's just my browser (Firefox on OSX), but if that person is 180cm tall, then seven shelves of volumes should approximate his height. -- 69.20.226.30 20:30, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure what this diagram looked like in November 2007, but as of April 2008, seven shelves do correspond with the outline of the man. Greetings from the future, Oldak Quill 09:04, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

mmmm, if every volume is 25 cm tall, that makes 25x7=175cm or 1,75 m, not 1,80 m. Or are you adding something for the thickness of the wooden shelves? --Sbelza (talk) 01:15, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

It would seem sensible. So the difference is 0.05m (using radix mark .) spread over 10 shelves, or 0.005m (5 mm) per shelf. That's on the thin side, but it seems practical. Graham (talk, contrib, SIGN HERE!!!) 05:43, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

This is ace. Tim Ruddell (talk) 19:19, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

How long it takes to read it

Would be interesting to add some info about how long it would take to read it. I counted with 1kB per minute and it was about 3 months reading non-stop. Is it possible? :-D Or is it even more? --Stardust (talk) 12:48, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Sanity check

Why does your sanity check end with "mod 10000"? I seems to be a rather odd method for rounding. Rl (talk) 09:08, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

1439

Wait, if there's roughly 1,439 volumes of Wikipedia, how come I count 1,239 on the bookshelves? There's 20 on a row, 200 to a stack, and 6 stacks and change. 6*20 = 1200, sure, but there's less than two rows on the "7th" stack. There's an entire stack missing, unless my simple math is way off somewhere.--75.57.209.255 (talk) 08:58, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Bookshelf computations

I have corrected problems in the way the number of volumes and the number of stacks were computed. See changes at User:Tompw/bookshelf/stacks and User:Tompw/bookshelf/volumes.

While these are user pages, I have gone ahead and made the changes since the user User:Tompw appears to be inactive, the (incorrectly built) graphics are referenced elsewhere, and the advice seems to have been to go ahead and make the changes. See discussion at Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2012 February 29 #Missing stack in User:Tompw/bookshelf, Wikipedia:Size in volumes etc.. Rwessel (talk) 04:00, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

Non-mainspace version

Hi. I really like the visualization. I was wondering if it might be interesting to add a second row, for non-mainspace pages... Either all bundled together, or something more complicated such as green-spines for talkpages and red-spines for templates etc. Just a thought. :) –Quiddity (talk) 01:18, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia size buildings

I just saw & remembered File:Wikipedia size buildings fr-FR.svg in my watchlist, and thought you might enjoy it, if you haven't seen it already. –Quiddity (talk) 19:12, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

Number of words

Hi Tompw, from where did you get the number of words, cause this statistic didn't shows them? Thx a lot! --W like wiki (talk) 22:42, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

Hmm... it seems the data I used is no longer at that link. The January 2010 row [here http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/TablesWikipediaEN.htm] shows 1,798 M words acorss 14GB, or 8.36 bytes/word. This isn't wildly different from the number used, so I'm not inclined to change it. Tompw (talk) 14:06, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

Bookshelf

I am wanting a bookshelf which contains books with 1.1 Gigabytes of content. This is the amount of medical content across all languages. Not sure how to do it. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 08:23, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

It is actually 1,015,667,193 bytes which is not 1.1 Gbytes. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 08:28, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

Would be 0.946 GB Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 22:01, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

Okay figured it out here [1] Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 22:28, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

Size of bookshelves display

As the number of bookshelves in the display is going to hit eleven in the next couple of days, I think it would be a good idea to make the graphic a bit smaller, especially since the last bookshelf is already scrolled way off to the right. I'm thinking we could reduce them by 30-40% in linear terms, and perhaps go to multiple "aisles" of bookshelves, perhaps six per "aisle". The intent of this graphic is to illustrate the size of Wikipedia, and having most of it scrolled off the right side and invisible makes it less useful. Comments? Rwessel (talk) 19:00, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

Agreed -- I came here to say exactly this. Tompw what do you say? --Waldir ^talk 16:25, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

But aisles would look like floors. Suggest no aisles. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 19:21, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

To clarify my comment: I agree with the idea of reducing the overall scale of the graphic, but I'm not sure how multiple aisles could be made to work with the human figure and still produce a minimally realistic diagram. So I'm inclined to agree with Sagittarian about the aisles. --Waldir ^talk 01:16, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

Realism is in the eye of the beholder, but something like: user:Rwessel/bookshelf. Obviously this has not been reduced in scale yet, and I picked two rows of six columns more or less out of thin air. Rwessel (talk) 02:07, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

That looks nice indeed, thanks for the demo. The size reduction is clearly still needed, since this version doesn't fit vertically on my screen (which isn't particularly small). --Waldir ^talk 21:42, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

I've reduced the size somewhat (user:Rwessel/bookshelf), but I think it needs some more. Unfortunately WP and the way this was formatted is fighting me a bit. Will work on it some more tomorrow. Rwessel (talk) 05:50, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

It's looking great :) Let me know if I can help somehow. --Waldir ^talk 11:03, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

I like the smaller books. Will change things accordingly at some point today :-) Tompw (talk) 16:23, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

Books are now smaller - thanks for suggesting this! What I need to do is play with divs and floats, and remove the need to scroll sideways, yet still have the stacks fill the width of the page. That may take some time. Tompw (talk) 16:34, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

If you want to go to two rows, put the person (and the counts) in the first table slot (that's also necessary to get the second row to align with the first), and then a "|-" where you want to break the table. I think you also need to change the rowspans to "1". See this edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Rwessel/bookshelf&diff=613507361&oldid=609317431 Going forward, the width (number of stacks across) can increase a bit, and then we could go to three rows, perhaps around 16 stacks, but in the mean time, it would mean moving the row break after the 11th and 13th stacks fill up in order to keep two even rows. Rwessel (talk) 18:43, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for that. Will do some experimenting, and see what works. Tompw (talk) 02:09, 23 June 2014 (UTC)