TomBarker23

This user is a newcomer (less than one month editing). Please don't bite them

Hello! This is my user talk page. If you wish to contact me please do so on this page, I will reply as soon as I can. TomBarker23 (talk) 11:01, 4 October 2017 (UTC)

Thank you

Thanks for the reply on my talk page. It can take time to get used to how things work here, so take it slowly. I've removed my previous message, since you obviously read and understood it. I'll pop some links below that might help you in future...

Hello, TomBarker23, and Welcome to Wikipedia!

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TomBarker23, good luck, and have fun. Begoon 16:40, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

Teahouse invitation

Hello! TomBarker23, you are invited to join other new editors and friendly hosts in the Teahouse. The Teahouse is an awesome place to meet people, ask questions and learn more about Wikipedia. Please join us!

—PaleoNeonate – 14:27, 12 October 2017 (UTC)

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46.232.120.201 (talk) 12:03, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

Wikipedia is....

...improving existing articles. Or God forfend, starting off by trying to writing a new article. David notMD (talk) 20:44, 12 October 2017 (UTC)

Wikisuicide?

That box on your userpage might alarm some people, especially as there is no linked page. 08:15, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

Well that was odd. I did find the page through your contributions and although it wasn't obvious why your userbox had a red link, I've fixed it. Doug Weller talk 08:19, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

One of the capitals was incorrect. Thank you. I'm going to remove that, I've decided to stay in Wikipedia. TomBarker23 (talk) 08:26, 13 October 2017 (UTC) Removed it. Thank you.

Ok. Glad to hear you are staying. I don't think anyone is after you or trying to insult you. Maybe worried a bit about you perhaps. Doug Weller talk 14:46, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

Forgot. The Wikistress thing is defunct. Not edited for a long time. Doug Weller talk 14:46, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

Seven Ages of Wikipedians

Wikipedia:Seven Ages of Wikipedians allows for WikiDeath, i.e., retirement from Wikipedia, which is a more gentle way to describe people who have reached the end of their Wikipedia life cycle (some permanently, some for a fallow period, some quickly, some after years of involvement). Another important point is that while some editors function in a low tact mode, the intent (of the great, great majority) is to make articles better. P.S. This might be a good time to take the two user banners off your User page, and start fresh. David notMD (talk) 11:36, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

But, User:Strdst grl/ubx/sevenages lacks a "This user believes in eternal WikiLife" mode.^[Humor] About the user boxes, I agree with David: victimization (or invitations to it) is best avoided, it is one's responsibility to play nice and by the rules for a best possible experience. In cases where personal clashes or even harrassment occurs (sometimes it's inevitable), we have administrator noticeboards to report it (or more private venues like emailing an administrator or even WP:911). Recommended reading (sorry if you already knew about these): WP:CHILDPROTECT and WP:YOUNG. Enjoy, —PaleoNeonate – 12:45, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

ANI

Hey Tom, it's great that you want to help out at ANI, but can I make a friendly suggestion? You've been here for less than 3 weeks and you've made almost no edits to articles. Why don't you spend some time writing or improving articles before jumping in with both feet at ANI?

Anyone is welcome to chime in at the various admin noticeboards but your contributions would carry more weight if you had at least a few months' evident experience of article work and collaborating with other editors. Keep in mind that the principal reason that we're here is to create an encyclopedia. Cheers, A Train^talk 12:59, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

Trouble is, I don't know anything that isn't already documented on Wikipedia. I would help, but until an opportunity arrives, ANI is my best option. I just wish to be helpful, and keeping editors from undermining Wikipedia's reputation is quite helpful, I hope. Thanks, A Train.— Preceding unsigned comment added by TomBarker23 (talk • contribs) 14:05, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

I also came here about ANI, specifically, this comment. First, don't edit other users' comments, even to correct spelling. Second, conflict around the user who started the topic has been going on for years, so comments from new users who aren't familiar with the situation aren't particularly helpful. I echo A Train's comment, and suggest that you start working on existing articles, and stay away from pages in the project namespace. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 13:12, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

(Edit conf|lict with DoRD ) Well you don't have to be a subject matter expert to help out with the project, Tom! That's one of the great things about Wikipedia. You can help out by adding Wikilinks to . You could do some copyediting with the Wikipedia:Cleanup crew. There are so many ways to pitch in.

It is super important that you're here to contribute to the encyclopedia, and not just hang around the noticeboards, okay? A Train^talk 13:16, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

OK, sorry, I just can't find any way to help at the moment. Remember, we have 5 million other people trying to do the same thing! I will try. Oh, and DoRD, it's not intentional, my laptop is playing up.TomBarker23 (talk) 13:24, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

There are tons of ways to help out in article space while avoiding noticeboards. See the start working link I left, or any of A Train's links, or you can even click the Random article link in the sidebar and look for things that need cleaning up. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 13:31, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

Perhaps you could improve the articles on Government or Architecture? Or vote on any of the hundreds of open WP:AfD threads? power~enwiki (π, ν) 19:14, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

Do you know about WikiProjects? They often will have lists of things that need doing on article pages connected to their project. So, all you have to do is find a WikiProject in an area that interests you, and off you go! For example, I'll browse what's going on in Projects France, History, LGBT, and Catalan if I need some ideas of what to work on. You can browse the Project Directory, search for projects, or read more about them. Good luck! Mathglot (talk) 06:36, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

You have new messages

Hello TomBarker23. This is to inform you that you have a new message at your talk page on the Simple English Wikipedia. Many thanks, Dane|Geld 22:14, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

Transclusion

Gotta be careful with that markup there. If you post {{WP:SOMETHING}} instead of [[WP:SOMETHING]] it actually transcludes the entire page you point to, instead of just providing a link. GMG^talk 13:56, 3 November 2017 (UTC) Ok, sorry. I'm still getting used to the system. TomBarker23 (talk) 13:59, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

A page you started (Ground Shakers To Feathered Flyers) has been reviewed!

Thanks for creating Ground Shakers To Feathered Flyers, TomBarker23!

Wikipedia editor My name is not dave just reviewed your page, and wrote this note for you:

Hello Tom. Thank you for this page. There are a few problems -- the first I have fixed myself, which is the 'Exhibits And Theme' section header. Section headers are always in sentence case -- see MOS:HEAD. Things I have not touched, however, are the references without a home -- can they be placed somewhere in the prose so they cite the assertion(s) in question? Also you have used the term 'world-exclusive', which is a WP:PEACOCK term and should be avoided. The article also has no categories. If you could fix all those, that would be great.

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^{My name is}not^dave (talk/contribs) 15:27, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

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Your WP:ANI reply to Westmclaren

I hope you don't mind, but I edited your reply on the Administrator's Noticeboard because you reply was running into Westmclaren's original post. I separated them simply for clarity's sake. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 17:36, 7 December 2017 (UTC)

Excellent, thank you. I have that problem when I edit on a phone, not a computer. TomBarker23 (talk) 08:59, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

Hi again

Hi, TomBarker. I really hope you'll take this in the spirit it's offered, but please read again this message I sent you a few months ago: [1]. In three months you've made 240 edits in total, but only 29 to actual articles. Please try to find an article or group of topics that interest you, and concentrate on adding content, copyediting, fixing errors, and so on. That's the way to learn how to project works, and from that activity you will find other ways to contributed as well. But for now your comments at administrative pages are not helping. 22:04, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

Is it that small? My word. I'm so sorry about that. I'll try and do something to articles. TomBarker23 (talk) 08:55, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

Regarding Hillary Remis Clinton, I'm guessing this user is a sock of Turkish air con. When someone does something like this, I would recommend avoiding feeding the trolls; it just makes them come back for more. Home Lander (talk) 15:45, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

WP:ANI

Hi there, TomBarker23. I am unfortunately joining the chorus of editors concerned about your extensive participation at WP:ANI, primarily this edit. You even acknowledge in the edit that you've been asked to stay away from ANI; Please try to respect that. Perhaps find some mainspace content work to take a look at, maybe try some copyediting on a random article? At any rate, please consider avoiding ANI for a while: we can resolve these issues without your input. Thanks. -- Thanks, Alfie. ^{talk to me | contribs} 05:40, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

And once again I apologise. Messed up again. (Turns out I'm pretty rubbish at Wikipedia as well.) TomBarker23 (talk) 09:01, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

Hi TomBarker23. Thank you for apologising, and I hope to see you around the project some more!! -- Thanks, Alfie. ^{talk to me | contribs} 21:08, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

Tom, I don't think you're being very fair to yourself when you say you are "pretty rubbish at Wikipedia". You haven't edited long enough or in a wide enough range of places to know where your strengths lie. The article about the dinosaur exhibition was a nice contribution, for example.

The administrative areas of wikipedia are far more complex than they appear on the surface - many users who've been here for years and made thousands of edits still aren't familiar with all their intricacies and peculiarities, so it's no surprise that a new editor would be a little out of their depth. Those areas really aren't a good fit for new editors, and anyway they are certainly not the most enjoyable or beneficial thing you can do here.

If you're struggling to know what to get involved with you could look through the WikiProjects, find one that interests you, and ask on its talk page what help is needed. You could look at WP:Requested articles and see if there's anything there that grabs your interest. If you like copyediting there's WP:GOCE. Another thing that lots of new editors do is sign up at WP:CVUA to learn how to combat vandalism - that exposes you to a wide range of articles and scenarios and can lead on to participation at WP:NPP, patrolling new pages. I do a lot of graphics work, and if you have any skill or interest in images there's always stuff to do in that area.

In short, don't give up just because you didn't find the right area to work in straight away. You're obviously an intelligent person with much to offer. -- Begoon 22:30, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

I second all that. It's easy for a newcomer to wander into places where there's more going on than meets they eye. Please don't be discouraged. EEng 00:20, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:JUKH System

Hello, TomBarker23. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "JUKH System".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply and remove the {{db-afc}}, {{db-draft}}, or {{db-g13}} code.

If your submission has already been deleted by the time you get there, and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion by following the instructions at this link. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. » Shadowowl | talk 10:25, 6 April 2018 (UTC)