User talk:Timtrent/Archive 23
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Re: welcome
Tim,
Thank you for the welcome to Wikipedia! And for the installation of the page I submitted at Light-front quantization.
Unfortunately, though, there has been some confusion between pages, and I hope that you will be able to help fix things. Apparently, there were some misunderstandings in what I submitted. In any case, here is the situation: The new page at Light-front quantization (note the hyphen) was actually supposed to be one of four sub-pages for the page I edited at Light front quantization (no hyphen) as a replacement for a stub. So, instead of having two pages with slightly different names, the page with the hyphen in the name is really supposed to be a sub-page, Light_front_quantization_(applications), and linked from Light_front_quantization, the page with no hyphen in the name. The first three sub-pages, Light_front_quantization_(formalism_part1), Light_front_quantization_(formalism_part2), and Light_front_quantization_(computational_methods), were overwritten by someone with copies of the fourth sub-page after I submitted the four on 30 August, leaving only the one sub-page with what is now an incorrect name.
All of these pages, the stub replacement and the four sub-pages, were developed by a committee from the Board of Directors of ILCAC, Inc., a non-profit organization that supports the use of light-front quantization in doing theoretical particle and nuclear physics. I am the chair of the committee and have the task of getting the pages installed.
Can the pages be re-aligned to what I originally intended? In other words, can all four sub-pages be installed and linked from the top page? Is there something that I can do? I've probably misunderstood some of the procedures and will be happy to get advice! However, I suspect that, as a new user, I'm blocked from doing anything directly.
Thank you for your help!
John HillerJR (talk) 16:41, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
- @HillerJR: I confess to getting lost in this description. We do, though, have loads of time. . Nothing is urgent here.
- Before you explain this in a spoon feeding me manner, please assure me (and thus Wikipedia as a whole) of one thing: That the editing has been performed on the basis of "One account = one editor".
- Even if that has not been so in the past, please make it absolutely the rule from now on.
- Now, that is out of the way.
- I may need some tools I do not possess in order to meet your needs. It may be necessary for me to perform technical deletion of articles that are in the way in order to achieve the structure you desire. So, I suggest the following process, and on your own talk page, in a new section:
- List out as a set of tasks precisely what you require. Tasks should be simple, one action tasks. An example might be "Move Article A to a new name, Article B". Do not forget to provide full wikilinks
- Check in your head that this will achieve what you need to achieve, then double check.
- Ask someone unfamiliar with the operation to read it and see if it makes sense.
- When all this is complete, place {{Adminhelpme}} at the head of that new section, and await a friendly admin;s help and guidance.
- Suggesting this is the best help I can give you. I am not an admin, and they alone have the mops and buckets to clean this place
- Oh yes, do not do neat indents at the start of new lines. You get weird formatting if you do Fiddle Faddle 16:54, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Articles for Creation barnstar | ||
This is for your tireless efforts at reviewing articles and also for your efforts at the helpdesk! Well deserved. st170etalk 19:48, 26 October 2014 (UTC) |
Oh wow. Thank you, St170e Fiddle Faddle 20:04, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
Halloween cheer!
Hello Timtrent:
Thanks for all of your contributions to improve Wikipedia, and have a happy and enjoyable Halloween!
– NorthAmerica1000 05:47, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
Request on 02:02:19, 27 October 2014 for assistance on AfC submission by AntonWarendh
- AntonWarendh (talk · contribs)
Hi TimTrent,
I understand the reasoning for the decline, but have a quick clarification and question for next steps. After a recently published article, someone asked why Marc didn't have a wiki. This person then drafted one, but didn't know how to submit it. I am the only person in that knows how to use the wiki background language, even though I am relatively novice with it. If the apparent conflict of interest is the only reason for the decline, then how would I go about avoiding that; would someone else have to submit this? Am I unable to edit this further, to remove any elements that may not sound neutral?
Thank you for your help.
AntonWarendh (talk) 02:02, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
- @AntonWarendh: The reason for the decline is separate from your needing to avoid this topic. The draft > Review > edit > resubmit process allows us to rip away any bias, as long as you as author can listen to and implement the advice. The gentleman may be notable, but needs to be shown to be so in the draft. Our role as reviewers is to seek to ensure that an article will not immediately be subject to one of our deletion processes when it is accepted. That is why we push it back to the author. We want to accept articles. This one is not yet ready. It was the style of the draft that led me to look for WP:COI. We get an instinct for this.
- So edit away as though he were not the boss, and create a draft showing him with precision, not with reverence. There is a downside to having a wiki page: If he has indiscretions that have hit public notice they will be included at some point. Fiddle Faddle 06:42, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
Cover-More Insurance
Hi Timtrent,
Hope you're well. Not sure if you recall, you gave me some assistance a while ago with my article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Cover-More_Travel_Insurance
In the end, we agreed that I should be best to go back to the original 'decliner' to get them to review and approve given the help you provided in cleaning up the article. Unfortunately they've since been inactive on Wikipedia. After going to the live-chat help, Howicus looked it up and and said that reviewer: Revant hasn't been active for several weeks. - Howicus then suggested I come back to you and ask if we can approve it or had other advice on how to proceed.
Anyway - Let me know if that makes sense or if there is another approach I should take.
Thanks again,
GB — Preceding unsigned comment added by GB at CoverMore (talk • contribs) 04:28, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
- @GB at CoverMore: I think all folk come and go as they please. I'm sure I've seen Revent active recently, though. I try very hard not to review drafts more than once. My rationale is that extra eyes help create a better overall outcome. Our role as reviewers is to seek to ensure that an article will not immediately be subject to one of our deletion processes when it is accepted. That is why we push it back to the author. We want to accept articles. It would be great to accept this one. To achieve it being acceptable, at least to someone like me, it needs to be remarkably well referenced. That uis, there must be no hint of directory entries (I could lists of share price fluctuations as such), and no obvious PR material. All I ever want to see is independent material about the entity.
- Does that help to guide you forwards? Fiddle Faddle 13:58, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
- @GB at TimTrent: Apologies - I had understood after the assistance and feedback you gave last time it was ok to go, and we just we needed to get Revent to review given they may have had their own critique and a separation of roles (remove conflict of interest given you provided guidance updating the article). I had understood that you had agreed it was OK to go-live as is... From the above, are you suggesting I need further updates to references? If so, this is fine, but I'd be keen to do this before my next decline. Any help would be great.
- @GB at CoverMore: Reviews tend to be an iterative process. There is no "do this and it will be approved" concept. Instead, the process is "We advise you to do the following and resubmit." In general the same reviewer does not re-review, though there are exceptions, since every reviewer is independent. So my advice is there regarding the things that I see as most in need, the highest priority items.
- You are probably interested in speed of acceptance. I judge this because you are employed (I presume) by the org. We have no deadlines. If the org merits an article it will have it, but that will happen at some point. What I suggest you do is to resubmit when you are ready and then continue to improve the draft until the next review. If it merits inclusion it will be accepted. Fiddle Faddle 07:23, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
- @GB at TimTrent: Thanks for the feedback. I must have mis-understood where we were at with the process.
I'm definitely keen to get it approve, primarily from the position that its taken a while and I've entered alot of my time into getting it right... I would like it live so I can look to build other more exciting articles. Anyway, I guess I'll just wait for review. Thanks again.
Just a thought...
I have noticed that you are great Teahouse host and have valuable answers for people. You know things that I've not even heard of. I have noticed something though. Please don't take offense at this because you can assume that I am contacting you in good faith. I've noticed that you've been forgetful and greeting editors who come to the Teahouse before you give them an answer. Perhaps I am overly sensitive about this issue since it is my own personal opinion and not a policy, but in my dealings with other editors, I am overwhelmed sometimes by the short, curt answers that I receive and I personally find them discouraging. Greeting people in and friendly way when they ask a question helps them feel like they are not asking a stupid question but instead are honestly seeking answers from some friendly Teahouse host.
- @Bfpage: I think we simply differ in approach. I have the reverse view form you. I do not like to be greeted on help desks. To me it feels like the cold calling salesman asking me how I am.
- I take no offence, and I thank you for your suggestion. It is something I considered even before you suggested it and chose to avoid. Each of us is different, something to be thankful for Fiddle Faddle 14:56, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
I need two items of help with this draft, please
First help needed
This help request has been answered. If you need more help, you can , contact the responding user(s) directly on their user talk page, or consider visiting the Teahouse. |
I am scratching my head with this draft. The infobox has widened to become huge. Please would a syntax deity solve that issue and tell me what they have done and thus what was wrong. Fiddle Faddle 20:14, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
Second help needed
This help request has been answered. If you need more help, you can , contact the responding user(s) directly on their user talk page, or consider visiting the Teahouse. |
I know the draft is in a poor shape. I'm trying to guide the author, but it is not the easiest task. A second experienced editor offering a guiding hand woudl be really lovely, please. The subject of the draft is notable, but the drafting needs guidance. I know we could rip it to shreds, but I think helping the author do the job well is a better idea. I am guessing that the author is a senior gentleman in years, and may not take advice easily, so I am looking for a diplomat who is also pleasantly assertive. Fiddle Faddle 20:14, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
- I fixed the infobox issue; the infobox became wide because the "education" field spanned several lines. However, I tagged it as a copyvio as a significant portion of the draft was copy-pasted from this document. FireflySixtySeven (talk) 20:38, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks for each of those. The first means I have learned something. The second shows that Earwig's tool is not effective on files such as the copy source. Fiddle Faddle 20:41, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Teamwork Barnstar | ||
A barnstar to you for re-reviewing at least 25 user reviews during the WikiProject Articles for creation June 2014 Backlog Elimination Drive. Thanks for contributing to the backlog elimination drive! Posted by (t) Josve05a (c) on 08:41, 29 October 2014 (UTC), on behalf of WikiProject Articles for creation |
To make our lives easier there are lots of resourcesa available. Some of the best are at Template:WPAVIATION creator--Petebutt (talk) 08:55, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
- @Petebutt: I know you have sent me this message for a reason. I was just working on the WP:AFC backlog, so more information about what your intent is woudl be useful. Fiddle Faddle 13:52, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
- Doh! Use them, is it that difficult?--Petebutt (talk) 15:02, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
- @Petebutt: I see; you have come here to be abusive. Your choice, I suppose. But, since the script at WP:AFC does not use them, nor does it interface with them, I suggest you learn to research things before you get insulting. I feel the richer for having met you. Or, conceivably, I am not telling the truth. Fiddle Faddle 15:56, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
- Not abusive, just friendly banter. You don't get out much do you!--Petebutt (talk) 16:11, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
- @Petebutt: Our definitions of 'friendly' and 'banter' obviously differ. Fiddle Faddle 16:25, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
From Manouela
Hello,
I contributed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Andreas_Dermitzakis#References and it was rejected. I have added references from UEFA.com and other official websites.
I am really not sure what I am doing wrong. My references are:
http://www.football-academies.gr/scoutmagazine/7482-dermitzakis-olympiacos-pyrasos-neas-agxialou.html http://www.uefa.com/under17/season=2015/teams/player=250076616/profile/index.html http://www.uefa.com/uefayouthleague/season=2015/clubs/player=250076616/index.html http://www.onsports.gr/Podosfairo/Super-League/item/440103-Olympiakos-Proto-Elite-Group-me-Mitsel-photos
Can you review and point me to the right direction? He is an athlete and has actively participated in a major amateur competition.
Thank you, Manouela — Preceding unsigned comment added by Manouela (talk • contribs) 15:57, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
- Forgive me, I am extremely tired tonight and will not be online much until Tuesday. Please refer to Wikipedia:Notability (sports) (linked from the box on the draft) and, if this does not help you, please ask at the AFC Help Desk. I appreciate that this is a poor answer. Fiddle Faddle 22:41, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
Niko Tarlay / Draft:Niko Alonzo Tarlay
I forgot to link the original article.
This is the article that was denied: http://www.digplanet.com/wiki/Draft:Niko_Alonzo_Tarlay
This is where someone else requested it to be made: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_articles/Arts_and_entertainment/Film,_radio_and_television
Hello,
My name is Katrina Alexander. I have been a fan of Niko Tarlay for a few years now, and was excited when I thought a wikipedia page opened up about him. But I saw that it was denied for references. I consider myself a huge fan and was wondering how I would make the page a real one? (I was not the creator of the original page and I don't know how to code). I saw the message for sources and here are some links. Do I need to write the person who made the page? Do I need to make a wikipedia account? Please write me back and let me know. Here are some articles where he was mentioned. It is the most recent stuff I could find on google.
http://dcmetrotheaterarts.com/2014/09/23/raisin-sun-compass-rose-theater/ http://dcmetrotheaterarts.com/2014/07/13/capital-fringe-2014-review-every-card/ http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2014-09-26/news/bs-md-ar-johnson-raisin-20140925_1_beneatha-lena-younger-raisin http://www.myeasternshoremd.com/community/queen_annes_county/arts/article_7d39c954-9a97-527f-841c-c7408d5f9b8b.html http://dctheatrescene.com/2014/09/23/raisin-sun-compass-rose-theater/ http://www.capitalgazette.com/entertainment/ph-ac-cn-raisin-review-0924-20140926,0,6318968.story http://www.mdtheatreguide.com/2014/09/theatre-review-a-raisin-in-the-sun-presented-by-compass-rose-theater/ http://citysugarr.com/2014/10/08/vampire-short-dark-therapy-premieres-at-reel-independent/ http://www.dejascene.com/actors/view/niko-tarlay http://frenchfilmsite.com/review/2013-B/Blood_and_Circumstance.html http://www.mediabang.org/watch-739342-dark-therapy http://www.dailynewsen.com/local/sun-still-shines-a-light-on-an-american-dream-h2695552.html https://www.ontimevids.com/movies/Thick-1634 http://www.answers.com/Q/What_actors_and_actresses_appeared_in_Thick_-_2014
72.81.134.58 (talk) 05:20, 3 November 2014 (UTC)Trina72.81.134.58 (talk) 05:20, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
- Simply enjoy editing the page - linked in this section heading - to add references. Do not worry if you make mistakes. It's fun. Fiddle Faddle 08:14, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
Review on Wikipedia Pages
Hello Timtrent/Fiddle Faddle,
I have made two submissions - CitiusTech and Rizwan Koita. A lot of positive changes have been done after holding elaborate discussions with Wiki editors. Live Chat Wiki Admins deem both my submission (current version) fit for creation. Please let me know by what time would Wikipedia be able to confirm both my submissions?
Best Regards....Vikram — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.74.6.2 (talk) 06:04, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
- as long as each are submitted then each will be reviewed when a reviewer happens by. there is no schedule Fiddle Faddle 08:32, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
Agency Insight
Hello,
You helpfully added some comments to the draft page of Agency Insight http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Agency_Insight on the second of June suggesting that significant amounts of copy be deleted as it was deemed promotional. I have pruned the page and made edits to neutralize the page. Would it be possible to see whether this page needs further editing? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Siginsight (talk • contribs) 13:20, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
- As I have mentioned to the questioner below, I an exhausted, so my answer will be tinged with that. Two things strike me:
- At present, at least in the text because I have not checked the references, I believe this lacks the notability to pass WP:CORP. However, it is in great company. Most orgs do not pass it either. Not every org will
- There are red errors in the citations. Those alone will have an adverse effect on acceptance
- You should continue to improve the draft while awaiting review, and consider asking, eg at the Teahouse, for other people's thoughts. The AFC Helpdesk is also useful, but more for problems than for guidance. Fiddle Faddle 22:49, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
Tim, Thank you very much for your help. hugely appreciated. Will take your guidance and advice. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.211.30.30 (talk) 12:07, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
Request on 09:41:55, 3 November 2014 for assistance on AfC submission by PaulGoochgoochie002
Hi Timtrent,
Hope you are well. I could not find where the details are for my failed submission. Could you message me an outline as to why it failed please.
Kind regards
PaulGoochgoochie002 (talk) 09:41, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
- Draft:Fortis Eyewear shows you. i am offline for a few days Fiddle Faddle 13:26, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
07:36:16, 4 November 2014 review of submission by 79.176.0.117 Need Assistance
- 79.176.0.117 (talk · contribs)
79.176.0.117 (talk) 07:36, 4 November 2014 (UTC) Hi Timetrent,
I Would like to talk to you about article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Strauss_Water that you declined.
The main core of this company is its unique patents, that were developed over years by respected persons in a world known University - The Technion – Israel Institute of Technology With out the patents there would be no company and it would not have collaborate with Heir-China and Virgin-England.
Can you please let me know what should be adjusted in order for you to approve it.
Thank you,
Request on 06:47:44, 5 November 2014 for assistance on AfC submission by Marygale
please advise why article on Leah de Niese was rejected. Please advise what I need to supply in my next submission. thank you Marygale (talk) 06:47, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
Marygale (talk) 06:47, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
- Hello Mary. Tim gave some quite detailed reasons as to why it was rejected on the page itself, Draft:Leah de Niese. Please have a look there. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 07:37, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
Your DYK
... on Power Wrestling needs some of your attention. If you are on break we can put this on hold, but we need to know shortly. Maury Markowitz (talk) 13:20, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
- @Maury Markowitz: I have no memory of this? Please can you link it for me? I am still on a break, returning at the weekend. Fiddle Faddle 13:35, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
- I'm referring to this. Perhaps I have read the history wrong, but it appears you created this article in its current form? The DYK post was anon, so I don't know if that was you or not. Maury Markowitz (talk) 14:06, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
- @Maury Markowitz: I simply accepted it at WP:AFC as being ready for the mainspace. I fear I know nothing at all about its content, and had to check the history to even recognise the article as one I had seen before. Fiddle Faddle 14:33, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
- Ok I'll try to figure out who it was then. Maury Markowitz (talk) 16:16, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
No For an Answer
Thanks for all your help. "No For an Answer" has finally been accepted! Bob
- That is excellent news Fiddle Faddle 11:00, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
Globally Peace draft
Dear Timtrent, I really hope that you can help me with my article Globally Peace, Draft:GloballyPeace. I am working already for so long time to publish this article, which is in my opinion according to the all priciples and articles of Wiki. I made adjustment asquired but still it is not publish for some reason. Can you tell me / explain me that reason in plain language so I can do what I can do to publish it. It is very important for me to achieve that and for Globally Peace as well. Can I call you (just shortly) and discuss this. regards IgScira — Preceding unsigned comment added by IgScira (talk • contribs) 11:48, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
- Please read the two deletion discussions. Fiddle Faddle 11:02, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
Dear Timtrent,
Thank you so much for your comments, that I have finally had the time to address. In short, - Revised the document, corrected syntax and formatting - Added additional external sources, replacing links to wikipedia - Added wikipedia links (the right way I hope) - Changed the account name to not match the name of the project (actually made a new account)
Here is the page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Superficialtension/sandbox
I am a wiki noob so I am not certain if you are going to review it again, however I thought I;d let you know before I resubmit.
Thanks for all your hard work
- Antonis
Superficialtension (talk) 19:09, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
- Thank you. I try very hard not to re-review drafts. Fiddle Faddle 11:08, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
Hello, thank you for reviewing my first submission last week. I have removed the citations to the bio's that you suggested and replaced them with other independent media references (newspaper and magazine) and would appreciate a second look:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Mark_Wilson_%28journalist/guitarist%29
Thank you ~ Val Keely — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lighthorse07 (talk • contribs) 01:59, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
- I try not to re-review drafts. Let's see what the next reviewer thinks. Meanwhile do continue to improve it. Fiddle Faddle 11:14, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
Hello,
I contributed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Andreas_Dermitzakis#References and it was rejected. I have added references from UEFA.com and other official websites.
I am really not sure what I am doing wrong. My references are:
http://www.football-academies.gr/scoutmagazine/7482-dermitzakis-olympiacos-pyrasos-neas-agxialou.html http://www.uefa.com/under17/season=2015/teams/player=250076616/profile/index.html http://www.uefa.com/uefayouthleague/season=2015/clubs/player=250076616/index.html http://www.onsports.gr/Podosfairo/Super-League/item/440103-Olympiakos-Proto-Elite-Group-me-Mitsel-photos
Can you review and point me to the right direction? He is an athlete and has actively participated in a major amateur competition.
Thank you, Manouela — Preceding unsigned comment added by Manouela (talk • contribs) 15:53, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
- You need to take advice from WP:Football on this one. Please ask there. Fiddle Faddle 11:16, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
Paul David Thompson article
Hi Tim Re: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Paul_David_Thompson Thanks for your feedback - all good points. I've reworked the article to focus on the artist, Paul Thompson, and added some more details on his works - the zine aspect then becomes one of his achievements. I don't know how to unitalicise his name in the title - and would appreciate you letting me know how I can fix that. I hope the reworked article sits better with you, and does Paul justice, as you requested. Thanks for your help, Linda --Lindamcgregor (talk) 04:42, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
- I have no idea how to fix the odd italicisation, I am afraid. Fiddle Faddle 11:19, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
Deathless
You may be interested to know that I've approved the draft about the Catherynne M. Valente novel Deathless, which you had previously rejected. However, before I approved it, I expanded it substantially. DS (talk) 17:15, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
- @DragonflySixtyseven: Good work Fiddle Faddle 11:20, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
National Development Programme in Computer Aided Learning - revised text
Good morning,
I have revised the text for - National Development Programme in Computer Aided Learning - Article here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Development_Programme_in_Computer_Aided_Learning
For some reason I have got myself in a tangle and also set up: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:National_Development_Programme_in_Computer_Aided_Learning
and cannot get it to automatically resend. Grateful for any assistance.
Peter-ed-tech (talk) 08:27, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
- It all seems to have resolved itself during my time away? Fiddle Faddle 11:05, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
Yes -thanks Peter-ed-tech (talk) 21:07, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
Copyright checks when performing AfC reviews
Hello Timtrent. This message is part of a mass mailing to people who appear active in reviewing articles for creation submissions. First of all, thank you for taking part in this important work! I'm sorry this message is a form letter – it really was the only way I could think of to covey the issue economically. Of course, this also means that I have not looked to see whether the matter is applicable to you in particular.
The issue is in rather large numbers of copyright violations ("copyvios") making their way through AfC reviews without being detected (even when easy to check, and even when hallmarks of copyvios in the text that should have invited a check, were glaring). A second issue is the correct method of dealing with them when discovered.
If you don't do so already, I'd like to ask for your to help with this problem by taking on the practice of performing a copyvio check as the first step in any AfC review. The most basic method is to simply copy a unique but small portion of text from the draft body and run it through a search engine in quotation marks. Trying this from two different paragraphs is recommended. (If you have any question about whether the text was copied from the draft, rather than the other way around (a "backwards copyvio"), the Wayback Machine is very useful for sussing that out.)
If you do find a copyright violation, please do not decline the draft on that basis. Copyright violations need to be dealt with immediately as they may harm those whose content is being used and expose Wikipedia to potential legal liability. If the draft is substantially a copyvio, and there's no non-infringing version to revert to, please mark the page for speedy deletion right away using {{db-g12|url=URL of source}}. If there is an assertion of permission, please replace the draft article's content with {{subst:copyvio|url=URL of source}}.
Some of the more obvious indicia of a copyvio are use of the first person ("we/our/us..."), phrases like "this site", or apparent artifacts of content written for somewhere else ("top", "go to top", "next page", "click here", use of smartquotes, etc.); inappropriate tone of voice, such as an overly informal tone or a very slanted marketing voice with weasel words; including intellectual property symbols (™,®); and blocks of text being added all at once in a finished form with no misspellings or other errors.
I hope this message finds you well and thanks again you for your efforts in this area. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 02:20, 18 November 2014 (UTC).
Sent via--MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 02:20, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
Kezia Noble
Hello, I appreciate you reviewing Kezia's article and I would like to improve it based on the changes you recommended me to do. I will remove the references that don't pass Wikipedia's regulations, but after going through them, I'm a little confused and thought you could help me please - which of the references are actually Ok for me to keep in the article? I am prepared to do anything it takes for the Article to get published, and I really appreciate your reply. All the best!
Kezia Noble's article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Kezia_Noble Wiki.017 (talk) 00:01, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
- Things by her are inappropriate and need to be removed. Press releases do not count despite the prior comment suggesting they might, and need to be removed. I doubt very much that she has inherent notability, or that this is a worthwhile task, but I am sure you will not be discouraged.. Fiddle Faddle 11:23, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
I have removed a lot of references including the Daily Mail and other PR articles - I've shortened the article down because I don't want to leave facts without references, would you mind taking a very quick look and seeing if the references are up to standard now? Feel free to let me know what other references I should remove and I will. Thank you: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Kezia_Noble Wiki.017 (talk) 22:49, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
Request on 01:47:40, 19 November 2014 for assistance on AfC submission by 1000000blueroses
Hi, Timtrent, Thank you for your time and effort to review my article on Richard Koshimizu.
You have kindly pointed that I need more reference that should be about him, but not by him.
We already have his article on Wikipedia in Japanese language. My questions is this. Would that page be a good source as reference? Or, do I need to add more reference.
Thank you for your support in advance, Timtrent. Your precious time is greatly appreciated.
1000000blueroses
1000000blueroses (talk) 01:47, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
- Wikipedia, in whatever language, can never be a reference. you need independent references that are significant coverage and are about the gentleman. The japanese article may be linked to using the "languages" option in the left hand menu, but that is all the use you may make of it. If it has suitable references, even in Japanese, you may use those. Fiddle Faddle 10:44, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
File:King George's Fields 2006.xls listed for deletion
A file that you uploaded or altered, File:King George's Fields 2006.xls, has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why it has been listed (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry). Feel free to add your opinion on the matter below the nomination. Thank you. Reticulated Spline (t • c) 21:40, 25 November 2014 (UTC)
Hi Timtrent, thanks for reviewing the article above, however have you got it mixed up with another article ??
you left this; "Foo magazine featured ..." is not valid. We do not indulge in reportage of what Foo Magazine has said. Instead we write the facts in the article and use Foo magazine as a citation if it is WP:RS, of the coverage is significant, and if it is independent of her. Be aware that she may well not be notable within our remit here.
I dont know what Foo magazine is and I don't use it as a reference. Please clarify.
Julesgreg (talk) 11:31, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
- "Foo" is a generic term for the periodicals you have used in the article. Replace "Foo" by the name of the publication you have used. Fiddle Faddle 11:35, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
Article on Artist David Lax
Hi Time-Trent,
Well, I kind of understand your policy about a live person [subject of Wiki article] describing himself and then using that description as a reference. However, in the case of deceased David Lax, extensive research has proven to me that there is unfortunately very, very little written down anywhere about this very significant WWII hero except for his autobiography. As an experienced genealogist and researcher, I found this to be quite peculiar. Quite possibly this dearth of information was because he was a very controversial person who dared to buck the establishment.
I am not certain from your comment exactly what you mean about citing sources using “footnotes.”
If you mean that there is some alternative way to refer to information/”facts” in the Wiki article about Lax that was generated by him [say a cautionary end note or notes that very clearly say(s) that said particular information does not meet strict reference standards and could be debatable or controversial], then I need to have a few examples of how that might be properly done. If something like that is not possible/feasible, then I guess I may have wasted about two months of my time trying to prepare and publish something that very much deserves the world’s attention.
Yer-roots-tracker (talk) 16:41, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
- The challenge we face is that Wikipedia's rules are, pretty much, non negotiable. Lax himself may be amazing and significant in so many ways, but, unless that is recorded in reliable sources it is going to be very hard to make the article acceptable. What I suggest is raising this issue at the Teahouse, or with the folk who help at the real time chat. We have the same major standards for all biographies, living or dead. But the living have an absolute requirement for inline citations whereas the dead do not. Luckily none of are are the final arbiters of inclusion. Our role as reviewers is to seek to ensure that an article will not immediately be subject to one of our deletion processes when it is accepted. That is why we push it back to the author. We want to accept articles. This is an article I cold not accept with the existing referencing. Fiddle Faddle 16:56, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Dimiter_Tzantchev — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.136.53.125 (talk) 21:59, 28 November 2014 (UTC)
Following the MfD at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Health in Norway, the article was moved to Health in Norway. Please review the article when you get a chance and see if anything further should be done. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 00:50, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
09:02:07, 3 December 2014 review of submission by Chris Naughton
Hello,
I am writing to ask exactly what needs doing to get the article accepted. I notice that several other bike retailers have articles, many of which read like advertisements - notably Wiggle Ltd.
The last review with the comment 'I think it is time to stop' seems negative and I would like further clarification on why you think it is time to stop, when little in the way of actual guidance has been provided.
I have changed the listing to remove any unsupported quotes or figures - that is unsupported by external references. Unfortunately unless a company such as Ribble floats on the stock market it is difficult to find references about them that they haven't themselves created.
Would this reference be acceptable? http://www.insidermedia.com/insider/north-west/91906-/ although I'm assuming that as you have conducted a thorough review and had not included it I suspect it won't be. How this is deemed less acceptable than the CITY.AM link for Wiggle Ltd is beyond me.
Please advise
Kind regards Chris
Chris Naughton (talk) 09:02, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
- @Chris Naughton: The suggested reference is unlikely to pass WP:RS. but does no harm. MY thoughts on it being time to stop are simply that it seems impossible to verify notability for this org. They seem a fine company, but they need to have folk write about them. The other bike retailers are not a precedent, I fear. There is no concept of an article setting a precedent here. I suggest the real time chat or the Teahouse to ask how you might get this draft over the hurdle. Fiddle Faddle 15:28, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
Could you take a look at this entry please?
Hi Timtrent,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Ivor_Dembina_Draft
You've been really helpful in helping me improve my first ever Wikipedia entry. Thank you.
I know that you try and avoid reviewing the same piece more than once but could you take another look and let me know if I'm on the right lines?
Many thanks,
Newcastleton
- I have not looked in any detail, but it seems to me that you stand a chance now Fiddle Faddle 16:53, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
Strauss- Water updated draft
Hi Timetrent,
I adjusted the patents list that reflects the approved patents in EU and US. I also added more internal links to other wiki pages. Please let me know if there is a need to do more adjustments
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Strauss_Water
thank you, Ariel
- I think you will be heading for disappointment. We need things about the org as references. Resubmit it with pleasure, but work hard on referencing. Fiddle Faddle 15:38, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
Thank you, I will add more referencing to objective sources — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.65.56.112 (talk) 12:29, 7 December 2014 (UTC)
Request on 11:17:21, 8 December 2014 for assistance on AfC submission by IanHislam
Why has this page not been accepted?
IanHislam (talk) 11:17, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
- please visit the draft in question and read what I placed there when I declined it. If you have further questions please ask me more. Fiddle Faddle 11:19, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
Could you please take a look at this re-write?
Hi Tim, I've rewritten the piece taking into account your comments, and someone kindly helped me fix the italicized heading.
I'm hoping it is all good now - would you mind looking at it and letting me know what you think? [1] Many thanks Linda Lindamcgregor (talk) 04:23, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
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Heya! I haven't worked on the Afc queue for a while and just started again - I can't believe it's past 3k right now. I just made my way through a few very old submissions, and I'm going to continue on. How did it get so out of control?!? Maybe it's time for another drive. Oh wait. Maybe not. (Happy holidays - hope you're well!) Julie JSFarman (talk) 22:31, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
- @JSFarman: I got so annoyed with it that I have taken a long wikibreak, so have not even looked at it for a while. Fiddle Faddle 22:44, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
- Totally understand. I went through the same - why I stayed away for a long while. Hope you come back though (and now I understand how the queue got to 3k). JSFarman (talk) 22:47, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
- @JSFarman: I'll be back. But it started to be like having a job, so I decided to let the queue elements I was handling grow without my input to see if it actually mattered! It seems not to. Well, except to the new editors, that is. When I think it's a hobby again I'll be back! Fiddle Faddle 23:01, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
- Perhaps you might try a few. It can be veery encouraging to good new editors to pick out a few good ones to accept immediately. I'mmoving in that direction myself (plus a few hopelessly promotional ones to immediately send to CSD G11). DGG ( talk ) 22:11, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
AfD/AfC
Your comment at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Landis Communications, Inc. (LCI) is exactly the way I look at it also. AfC approval involves a judgment over whether the article would be kept, but no one can possible predict perfectly the vagaries of WP AfD decisions. DGG ( talk ) 22:09, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
- @DGG: Exactly. I accepted it, perhaps correctly, perhaps in error. I care about every decision I make, but the community will decide its fate, and I am unimportant. I have given the community the chance to decide because I accepted the draft. That is perfectly satisfactory.
- AfC has burned too brightly in my firmament recently. I am taking a break to return with renewed vigour at some unspecified future point. Fiddle Faddle 22:16, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
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Speedy deletion nomination of Carolina Tinoco
Hello Timtrent,
I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Carolina Tinoco for deletion, because it seems to be promotional, rather than an encyclopedia article.
If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.
You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Vrac (talk) 01:14, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
- I have no recollection of, nor interest in, this article, I am afraid. Fiddle Faddle 09:54, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
Repeat AfD nominee
You previously voiced an opinion on an AfD discussion on an article. It was subsequently moved to user space and made it to main space. It has been nominated for deletion again: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cantata++ (3rd nomination). If you are interested in weighing-in, it would be helpful to know if you see any improvement in the article and it currently meets WP:GNG. Walter Görlitz (talk) 04:03, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
Your draft article, User:TheUdi/Nirobota
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The page will shortly be deleted. If you plan on editing the page to address the issues raised when it was declined and resubmit it, simply {{db-afc}}
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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. JMHamo (talk) 12:54, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
- @JMHamo: not mine. It seems to be a duplicate. Fiddle Faddle 13:20, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
Hi Timtrent,
I have been working on the article with an editor called norbert in the live chat and we think it is ready for review. He asked me to ask you directly since you have previously reviewed it.
Thanks a lot in advance.
Carmen — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.132.239.87 (talk) 15:56, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
Hi Timtrent,
I would like to ask your help. I have been working on the article together with norbert (in the live chat) and we think it is ready for review. Since you were one the editors who reviewed, I would kindly ask you to do it again before I submit it.
Thanks a lot in advance.
Carmen — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.132.239.87 (talk) 16:01, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
Request Edits
Hi Timtrent. I don't know if you remember me, but we had a chat about COI a while back and it turns out more recently an article you accepted at AfC, I sent to AfD. It was on a PR agency, as I do a lot of volunteer editing in PR topics.
Anyways, I was wondering if you had some time to spare to take a look at a few items where I have a conflict of interest. I've already bugged most of the editors I rely on, on a regular basis, but many are busy or haven't been on. CorporateM (Talk) 07:57, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
- @CorporateM: I am in the 'haven't been' on camp. Suffering form Wikiburnout I am taking a break. Of course I remember you. I respect your editing. We do not always agree, which is perfectly fine. Please feel free to ask me to look at individual articles, but be aware that I may simply not accede to the request if I ma not back on here regularly. Did that article survive or go? I an ambivalent to, but interest in, the outcome. Fiddle Faddle 09:15, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
Fluor Corp
I think it was deleted, but I don't remember for sure which article it was. This Request Edit seems like it would only take a minute if you have time to take a look. I originally listed four divisions there using a primary source, but now they are re-organized into six divisions. I felt it would be excessive use of a primary source to add all six, especially given that many provide the same services but merely to different industries. So I offered a more concise and timeless version that will no longer require updating if divisions change in the future and is a more concise use of a primary source. I'm waiting for this tiny update before getting it translated for the Spanish Wiki. CorporateM (Talk) 13:34, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
20:38:23, 21 January 2015 review of submission by Dalonsovc
thank you for your review. I have edited some of the issues highlighted. I have read the conflicts of interest page. However, I cannot understand why a page such as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinoy_Auto_Trader is allowed to post when the company mentioned in the page I have edited has a much longer standing in the Philippines market, is still active, and is one of the Philippine's leading platforms helping Filipinos in e-commerce of vehicles. The references are as valid as the ones posted by said page. thank you
Dalonsovc (talk) 20:38, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
14:18:22, 29 January 2015 review of submission by Cheetah73
Hello!
I would like to ask you why my article was declined? All the information you can validate from here: http://www.firmenabc.at/asa-abfall-service-ag_BDH#Firmenbuchdaten Cheetah73 (talk) 14:18, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
Question - declining the article
Hello!
There was declined an article about .A.S.A. from your side.
Can you advice me how to wite it properly?
All the information you can check and validate from here: Cite error: There are <ref>
tags on this page without content in them (see the help page).http://www.firmenabc.at/asa-abfall-service-ag_BDH#Firmenbuchdaten
CheetahCheetah73 (talk) 14:20, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
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Draft: rusty anderson afternoon
Hi, we corresponded awhile back about my draft. I resubmitted it yesterday with new references and it was declined overnight! Is this normal? The prompt I got when I resubmitted was that it would be 3 weeks minimum. I am still working on the links for the Brazilian newspaper I used as a source, but I wanted to get in the queue in the meantime. I'm asking you because you're the only admin who has given me concrete tips in feedback! Here is the page
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Rusty_Anderson_Afternoon
it's been rejected three times now, but the first time I was told the person had inadequate authority and that was reversed, I was told it was investigated, but I never heard anything else. Then 3 months later I was declined an d they said no primary sources, so I got these secondary sources instead, but now I am told they are not verifiable. I am confused about that big time. Any advice you have would be great. Thank you! Jena Jena fuller (talk) 15:44, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
- @Jena fuller: Music is not really my field, but the references do look insufficient. We require references from significant coverage about the topic of the article, and independent of it, and in WP:RS please. See WP:42. In addition you may wish to read WP:MUSIC.
- The timescales are what they are. Sometimes an editor will assess a raft at once, other times they hang around for a while. Ills good that yours was looked at quickly. I'm sorry the outcome was;t what you hoped for. The reviewer might also have left further information. I'm going to add a comment on the draft, too. Fiddle Faddle 16:06, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for the superfast turnaround, and the helpful links. I see your point. Mr Anderson is ambivalent about a merge, because it won't mean the band comes up as its own entity upon Google search. His page is also WOEFULLY messed up, lots of bad links, put up by who knows whom. Much misinformation presently on that page. I work with, not for, him, doing this as a friend to assist, and am trying to navigate this maze to suss this all out. Jena fuller (talk) 16:14, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
- @Jena fuller: Please do your best to divorce your work on Wikipedia from any personal knowledge or friendship with anyone. I'm sure you are doing just that. This means though, ignoring Mr Anderson's wishes completely, simply because they are 100% irrelevant to Wikipedia. At the forefront of your mind must be only what is best for Wikipedia, never for Mr Anderson. The end results is then good for both.
- So consider that merge. Google will find it regardless. Wikipedia is so well indexed that big G finds all.
- If you are to edit pages, even drafts, about the gentlemen and his endeavours, please use {{Connected contributor}} with parameters filled out, and deploy it in the article or the draft talk page, at the head, probably as the bottom of any set of banners.
- Improve references. Make that your modus operandi in all cases.
- No need to start new sections on talk pages. See how I have indented this? Fiddle Faddle 16:22, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
Now I do, yes. [I think..I hope I did this message right] ☺ thanks Tim! I really appreciate the feedback. Jena fuller (talk) 16:46, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
14:17:09, 23 February 2015 review of submission by IanHislam
I do not understand what I need to do in order to get this page accepted? We are a huge global company!
Could someone please explain what is missing?
IanHislam (talk) 14:17, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
- @IanHislam: This is not a priority for you, is it? You have made no changes to the draft since I rejected it, giving reasons on 8 October 2014. What you have to do is to provided excellence in referencing. That is, with more precision when I said it, what I said. Fiddle Faddle 17:01, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
Wow how rude are you? And you represent Wiki? As I said, examples of referencing would have been helpful as your tone, English and website section were all very unclear. — Preceding unsigned comment added by IanHislam (talk • contribs) 16:28, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
- @IanHislam: no. I represent myself. Now be a good WP:COI editor and go do your research properly. I am not about to find example references for you. People who get touchy when they have a conflict of interest are likely to fail anyway. COI editors are ten a penny. Welcome to the club of those who get tripped up by their conflict of interest. Fiddle Faddle 16:52, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
11:45:26, 3 March 2015 review of submission by IanHislam
Hi, we have added references as requested citing national and international media. Please can you review.
Thanks!
IanHislam (talk) 11:45, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
- To get the draft reviewed you need to follow the process of resubmitting it. There is a blue button on the draft that enables that. As it stands at present it contains duplications. Please remove those and resubmit. If you do not remove the duplications it will fail. If you do not resubmit, no-one will review it. I have not been active on Wikipedia for some time, and I do not often re-review material. It is far better for other eyes to look at the piece. Even were I active I would not re-review it because that is against my personal policies.
- If the references you have provided allow it to pass WP:CORP (WP:42 is a universal shorthand) then it will be accepted.
- I counsel you against the term "we". Our policy is "one account = one editor" Others may collaborate with you offline, but, online, the account is intended for you alone. Fiddle Faddle 11:59, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
12:48:06, 3 March 2015 review of submission by IanHislam
Hi there, thanks for your speedy feedback.
I have removed the duplicated entry!
I have removed our links to social media. Apologies, I thought we needed to evidence that they existed, but perhaps not. Likewise, I have removed some company citations, in case that is considered promotional - again it was to evidence existence.
I hope this is okay now but please do come back to me if there are further amends required.
12:50:37, 3 March 2015 review of submission by IanHislam
{{SAFESUBST:Void|
Noted re the term we!
15:13:47, 3 March 2015 review of submission by IanHislam
Many thanks for your assistance. I added this line as the guidance advised that you include independent media. I did this to verify that IHS Maritime's content is credible and well cited. I have removed it now, however.
13:27:09, 9 March 2015 review of submission by IanHislam
{{SAFESUBST:Void|
Hi there, please can you confirm that you have received my final submissions and that the copy has now been sent for review. If you are waiting for something additional, please let me know!
Thanks.
10:47:19, 10 March 2015 review of submission by AkashMohanGautam
Hi
I hve made further edits to the article, keeping only information. Have removed everything that looks even a little promotional to keep up with the nature of an enclopedia article. Please review it. Regards.
AkashMohanGautam (talk) 10:47, 10 March 2015 (UTC) AkashMohanGautam (talk) 10:47, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is not the place for your resumé Fiddle Faddle 11:16, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
Request on 12:39:38, 14 March 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Guruness Brownie
As stated in the user talk with "Peridon", which can be found under this link:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Peridon#Copyright_and_other_matters
the website which is likely the reason why the submission has not been accepted is a fansite created by myself.
I had sent a copyright consent from a website related address and got an OTRS ticket which has already gone through.
It is also documentated in the mentioned user talk as followed:
"Ticket:2015011310024554 confirms http://gurunessbrownie-photography.com and http://atlantichornsfans.com/ belongs to Guruness Brownie. Jee 16:59, 2 March 2015 (UTC)"
Actually I had originally created the relevant text for this Wikipedia article (not the other way round), but then the related photos got deleted for copyright reasons. During the following process to get the copyright issues re the pictures solved I had meanwhile launched the mentioned fansite.
On the basis of the abovementioned user talk I have reworked the article as well as the according references, before I have posted it for your review.
I kindly ask you to reconsider reinstating, please. Or either to synchronize with your colleague 'Peridon', if that's anyhow doable and not too much asked? I'd so much appreciate that.Guruness Brownie (talk) 12:39, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
- I see no OTRS ticket on the draft. Until then it is a copyright violation.. Someone else can handle it. Fiddle Faddle 13:23, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
I see where you're coming from, but the OTRS ticket is in the user talk, from this user talk I have been directed to the draft page... Guruness Brownie (talk) 14:34, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
- It is in the wrong place. Unless and until it is in the right place it is irrelevant. Fiddle Faddle 14:36, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
- Ok, I see, thanks. Can you please help me then and tell me how I can get someone put it in the right place? Guruness Brownie (talk) 14:41, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
- Place {{Helpme}} on your own talk page, describe the problem in detail beneath it, give ALL relevant links and someone who understands this will be along to help yo. I am not one of those people, I'm afraid. Fiddle Faddle 14:44, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
Atlantic Horns
I've copied the message from my talk page onto the Horns talk page. Ritchie333 was starting to work on the user space draft, and GB was supposed to tell me when things were ready so Melanie and I could have a look. But no, he goes and AfCs it... Peridon (talk) 15:32, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
- As they say, my friend, 'shit happens'. AFC was the last thing this needed at that stage. All we can do when we review it is take it at face value. At least it is under some sort of control now Fiddle Faddle 16:06, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
- So do you think it passes now with the ticket number there? I've never had anything much to do with OTRS (other than deleting things with tickets for being spam...). Or are there still other issues? Peridon (talk) 16:14, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
- I genuinely cannot tell, because I have no idea what the ticket says. Only an OTRS volunteer can see what was submitted, when, and whether it was approved or not. I didn't go further than find the copyright issue in my assessment of the draft. You will see my not on the draft talk page about the ticket. Since I presume you are not an OTRS volunteer either I think further help is required from one with those privileges. Fiddle Faddle 16:18, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
- I've messaged Jkadavoor. No, I keep away from things like OTRS. I joined Wikipedia to take some rubbish out of an article, and I've carried on with that sort of thing. Now, I can take away whole articles... Incidentally, have you ever thought of getting a mop? Peridon (talk) 16:33, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
- I have wondered about moppage and bucketage, and decided against it many times. Sometimes one can do more without the cleaning materials than one can with them. Wise to stay away form the arcane OTRS mechanism! I had to research to find out that Jk was an OTRS volunteer. The ticket appears only to refer to the pictures, by the way. The deployment of the ticket on your talk page was... unusual at best. GB is doing well to ask for help. Fiddle Faddle 16:41, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
- sorry that I've messed it up that badly, never meant to, I simply got you wrong, Peridon, when you directed me to that darft page. Fyi, the OTRS ticket was imo first issued for media, but later extended for the fansite texts too, as I run websites of both links, at least that's how I took Jkadavoor. Guruness Brownie (talk) 18:13, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
- Everyone makes mistakes. Everyone learns. No-one knows how all if this place works. Be unashamed and unworried. But please use the talk page of the draft article to discuss what may be released to it. I have set up that as a discussion venue for you. Fiddle Faddle 18:16, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
- I've asked GorillaWarfare to have a look. She's an admin and on OTRS too. Peridon (talk) 18:36, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
- Perfect. We are way outside my own competence. Fiddle Faddle 18:37, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
- I've asked GorillaWarfare to have a look. She's an admin and on OTRS too. Peridon (talk) 18:36, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
- Everyone makes mistakes. Everyone learns. No-one knows how all if this place works. Be unashamed and unworried. But please use the talk page of the draft article to discuss what may be released to it. I have set up that as a discussion venue for you. Fiddle Faddle 18:16, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
- sorry that I've messed it up that badly, never meant to, I simply got you wrong, Peridon, when you directed me to that darft page. Fyi, the OTRS ticket was imo first issued for media, but later extended for the fansite texts too, as I run websites of both links, at least that's how I took Jkadavoor. Guruness Brownie (talk) 18:13, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
- I have wondered about moppage and bucketage, and decided against it many times. Sometimes one can do more without the cleaning materials than one can with them. Wise to stay away form the arcane OTRS mechanism! I had to research to find out that Jk was an OTRS volunteer. The ticket appears only to refer to the pictures, by the way. The deployment of the ticket on your talk page was... unusual at best. GB is doing well to ask for help. Fiddle Faddle 16:41, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
- I've messaged Jkadavoor. No, I keep away from things like OTRS. I joined Wikipedia to take some rubbish out of an article, and I've carried on with that sort of thing. Now, I can take away whole articles... Incidentally, have you ever thought of getting a mop? Peridon (talk) 16:33, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
- I genuinely cannot tell, because I have no idea what the ticket says. Only an OTRS volunteer can see what was submitted, when, and whether it was approved or not. I didn't go further than find the copyright issue in my assessment of the draft. You will see my not on the draft talk page about the ticket. Since I presume you are not an OTRS volunteer either I think further help is required from one with those privileges. Fiddle Faddle 16:18, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
- So do you think it passes now with the ticket number there? I've never had anything much to do with OTRS (other than deleting things with tickets for being spam...). Or are there still other issues? Peridon (talk) 16:14, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
Staff&Line
I've reverted the spammers (and cautioned them...). I've no objection to another A7 or an AfD - or a move to the new name (or both...). Peridon (talk) 17:32, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
- To be fair, I never noticed the spammers. This article would never have passed WP:AFC, and I think I will look at a further CSD, though it seems to me that a PROD might serve better since I can give a rationale. Fiddle Faddle 17:37, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
Hi Tim, Thank you soooooooo much for taking the time to review my page submission, I really appreciate it from the heart.
Would you please let me know what is the reason for the rejection of my page? I tried to confirm with all the tags and rules of Wikipedia. Is it because of the picture may have been a copy righted? I removed all the copy rights from it. I came up with a new patent software and wrote couple of books about the new approach of determining customer satisfaction for all the industry the books and software are free (open source) to the public to use and I was trying to spread it as much as I can for all the companies to use. I have no interest what so ever in any monetary or fame. As I mentioned, the software and all the books are open source to the public.
Please let me know what needs to be edited in the page I created to comply with Wikipedia guidelines and have a blessed and wonderful weekend to you and your family.
Adam Maamoun — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adammaamoun (talk • contribs) 15:34, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
- Have you been to the draft article and read the rationale there? Once you can confirm that you have I will be happy to help you to understand anything that you do not understand. Fiddle Faddle 15:37, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
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Review Page
Hello!
Thank you for taking the time to review my article. I am unsure of how to change my username, and cannot seem to find any instructions on how to do so. Do you have any recommendations on how I should go about doing this? Thank you again!
~~stpi gallery~~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stpi gallery (talk • contribs) 05:36, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
Request on 07:42:05, 23 March 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by JasH23
Hi! I just have one question about a submission you declined. How much content is needed to be deemed sufficient for an article of its own?
I have seen short articles on Wikipedia, so I did not think of that to be a problem. Is there a particular number of words as a minimum?
JasH23 (talk) 07:42, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
- I fear the message was somewhat generic. The software company is not, yet, sufficiently notable to warrant its own article. It is not so much the quantity of text as the quantity of independent and inherent notability. Others may disagree with me. This is simply my opinion. Fiddle Faddle 08:38, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
12:20:24, 23 March 2015 review of submission by Speedex750
- Speedex750 (talk · contribs)
Hi TimTrent!
Thanks for the quick turn around. You'll have detected this is my first attempt at contributing. You've picked up that it is an update of what's already on the Speedex site - that I authored and control as webmaster. Conscious of the potential transitory nature of websites I'm seeking to archive the Speedex history somewhere secure - Wiki being the obvious repository. I was avoiding refering to the webpage thinking it could be somewhat incestuous. I could refer to the website (I'm still sussing out how to add references and other bits and pieces!) amongst others but none are real primary sources in the classical acedemia style. How do I unravel this?
Thanks for your help and advice.
Dave - Speedex750 Speedex750 (talk) 12:20, 23 March 2015 (UTC) Speedex750 (talk) 12:20, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
- There is a mechanism to choose to donate copyright materials to Wikipedia. WP:COPYRIGHTS will merit some careful reading. We protect copyright of others, even your own, with a passion. This is why we rip copyright material out ruthlessly. While I guessed that you might be the copyright owner, I am unable to assume that you are, and thus the draft is gone.
- The problem that you have is that your text tone may not be appropriate for Wikipedia (I have not checked).
- http://archive.org may be what you seek if you want a simple archive. Fiddle Faddle 12:35, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
A kitten for you!
thanks for catching my mistake!
Regulatory Data Management
Hi Tim, You recently declined our article on regulatory data management, saying it reads too much like an essay. We don't quite understand as we've tried very hard to do it in a similar style to other articles in this space. It's not an essay, it's information about what regulatory data management is all about and why it is important at the moment, since it is becoming a hot topic in the city. Banks need to understand what to look for in a tool in order to help them comply with the regulation - then they need to go and find the right tools for their particular needs. Even if we write this again, I suspect you will decline it again as we will be saying the same stuff. But yet this is what users out there need to know - I thought that was what Wiki was for. Please can you clarify why this is more of an essay style than something like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Governance,_risk_management,_and_compliance, for example? Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.125.172.90 (talk) 11:56, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
- No, I will not decline it again. It is very rare that I re-review a draft. Other reviewers may have a different view, but mine is that it is an essay within WIkipedia's terms. I suggest you take this to the help desk and ask your specific question there, and request other eyes on the draft. Fiddle Faddle 11:59, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
Thanks very much - will do! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.125.172.90 (talk) 10:45, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
Request on 15:05:11, 24 March 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by CyrilG4
Hello Timtrent! I saw that my article has not been accepted for the moment because of its lack of reliable sources. Can you help me? Thanks in advance!
CyrilG4 (talk) 15:05, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
CyrilG4 (talk) 15:05, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
- Please confirm that you have looked at your draft. There are comments there to help you. I will explain anything you do not understand. Fiddle Faddle 15:18, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
Please tell me if I understand your comments and answer some of my questions:
- I have to delete all the footnotes referring to the Q-Project's website. - What do you mean by "extraneous clutter"? - Would these links be accepted?
http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/ideas/brainiac/2013/07/preserving_comi.html http://indiacomic.blogspot.fr/2013/07/q-collection-comic-book-preservation.html http://doctorcomics.com/2014/02/23/q-a-project-for-the-preservation-of-comics/ http://www.supermanhomepage.com/news/2013-news/2013-news-comic.php?topic=2013-news-comic/0717 http://www.dcplanet.fr/76544-decouvrez-le-q-collection-comic-book-preservation-project http://www.mdcu-comics.fr/news-009239-mdcu-les-tous-premiers-comics-en-danger.html
CyrilG4 (talk) 17:55, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
- Clutter: Look at the stuff between my comment and the meat f the draft. That needs to go. The "Your topic and then define it i" stuff
- Q Comics web site cannot be a reference at all except in very restricted circumstances. See WP:PRIMARY
- Blogs are generally to be avoided. Any url with 'blogspot' or 'wordpress' rings alarm bells, because they fail WP:RS
- Boston Globe is fine
- For the others, you may wish to ask on WP:RSN listing the urls, one per line, preceder with a "*" character, link to the draft, and ask there. They provide a very capable answer to the question. Fiddle Faddle 18:17, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
Article- Canned cycle
hi. I have created an article named Canned cycle. Please let me know if there is anything that needs to be rectified. your comment is precious. thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amit307d (talk • contribs) 19:16, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
- @Amit307d: Since it is now in main namespace I have no opinion to offer. You have left the protected environment of WP:AFC and chosen to create an article which is now subject to the entire Wikipedia community's scrutiny. I help people work in the AFC space. Fiddle Faddle 19:22, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
i tried to move this article into drafts but it is not moving, the reason being the article already exists and so it offers me to change the name and move it. should i move it ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amit307d (talk • contribs) 19:25, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
- @Amit307d: You will need the help of an administrator to do this. I am not one. {{Adminhelpme}} has instructions for asking for admin help. Fiddle Faddle 19:29, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
Request for proofreading
Hi Tim,
Thank you very much for your useful comments on my first article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:University_Ranking_by_Academic_Performance. I made the changes recommended by you and another reviewer. After reading the suggested Wikipedia help pages, I added more references from suggested sources according to Wikipedia requirements. I chose the references from peer reviewed journal articles, press release, conference proceeding, books, reports, and official university pages. I further edited the text, changed my username, and double checked my references to ensure that I have eliminated the mentioned conflict of interest.
In your comment on my talk page, you advised me to ask you for proofreading my draft article before re-submission. I would greatly appreciate it if you give me some feedback about my article. I tried my best to address the issues in my first draft and I'd appreciate any comments to help me improve any issues I might have missed.
Thank you. Murmehr (talk) 14:08, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
- @Murmehr: You have been working very hard. Thank you for taking everyone's comments on board. I have looked at your draft, and I fear I am not competent to review it in any detailed manner. It looks to me to be ready for approval, but it is a field I know very little about. I suggest resubmission. Fiddle Faddle 15:04, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
Thank you for your prompt reply. I'm going to resubmit the article. Murmehr (talk) 16:06, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
Thank you
Hi Tim. Thank you for your time and help. It is really appreciated.
17:37:13, 26 March 2015 review of submission by Ave atque Vale
Ave atque Vale (talk) 17:37, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
Thank you for reviewing my article so promptly. However, I would like to point out that there were actually two separate battles with the same name: one fought in Michigan in 1763, and one in Virginia in 1656. Wikipedia currently only has an article on the Michigan battle; the page I wrote deals with the Virginia battle. As such, I think it's safe to say that an article for the Virginia battle doesn't currently exist, and I'd like to request a re-review of my article.
Thank you,
Ave atque Vale (talk) 17:37, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
- I've set it up for a re-review. I declined it in a clerical basis before, but could not have accepted it since I have no knowledge at all of the area (as I am sure you can see!) Fiddle Faddle 17:45, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
Thanks so much for resubmitting it for me!
Ave atque Vale (talk) 19:33, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
Arabic article
Thank you for the review of my article, I will try to submit my article to the Arabic Wikipedia. There is no need for an English article, since it already exists. Saventura (talk) 22:15, 26 March 2015 (UTC)