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Signpost Arbitration interview request

Excuse me. I am lead writer for the Signpost's "Arbitration Report" and am wondering if you would be interested in answering some interviews questions as an outgoing Arbitrator. The questions will be asked through email, unless answering them here would be a more suitable choice. GamerPro64 19:00, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

Feel free to email me the questions (see user:Thryduulf/Contact) and I'll take a look when I get time. Note that I've just returned from visiting relatives over the Christmas period so I have a large backlog of email to read, so I can't promise when I'll have time to respond. Thryduulf (talk) 20:59, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

I believe I sent you the questions to the right email. If not, let me know. GamerPro64 01:35, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

Image Request

Hi there Thryduulf, I have posted an image request on the Commons link here. Since you are from London, I was hoping that you or any other Wikipedian from London could help me out. Please do have a look and let me know if you or any other Wikimedian can help out. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 21:07, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

I'll see what I can do :) Thryduulf (talk) 22:47, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

Thank you!. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 03:49, 3 January 2016 (UTC)

Now uploaded to Commons:Category:Waterloo Bridge - South_Bank bus stop P. Thryduulf (talk) 21:11, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

Speedy Deletion vs WP:RM/TR

Regarding your revert, after reading Wikipedia:Requested moves/Technical requests more closely, I believe {{db-move}} to be the proper forum on List of most massive stars, as it appears to meet Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion#G6 (I was going to post this on my original RfD, but it was closed too quickly). Please let me know if & how this isn't the case. Thanks.   ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅contribs ⋅dgaf)  16:27, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

Possibly, I haven't actually looked to see whether the move is contentious or appropriate at all (e.g. if there has been a previous discussion about it). I just know that RfD is not the correct venue and was just removing the tag for that process so whomever deals with the move request isn't confused. Thryduulf (talk) 16:32, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

Oh, excellent, thank you. It appears that I've jumped the gun a little. (there is a discussion here, btw)   ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅contribs ⋅dgaf)  16:43, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

AE closure

• DrChrissy (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Hi Thryduulf. Regarding this comment, it was actually User:Floquenbeam who did the block and not me. Could you fix the attribution? Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 14:38, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

• • Sorry about that. I would have fixed it but Floq got there before I saw this message. Thryduulf (talk) 17:47, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

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Willing to listen

You say I don't understand the issue. I am willing to listen. We're clearly not on the same page. What does yours say? Darkfrog24 (talk) 13:51, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

Thank you

Thryduulf, can I just take a moment to say thanks for your hard work on the committee. I think you did a fine job, especially as the person who looked after the mailing lists. I was always impressed on how quickly I received an acknowledgement during the last year, and I think that was in no small part down to you. It's one of the small things that people don't notice that make a really big difference. Worm^TT(talk) 14:41, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

Regarding topic ban of Darkfrog24

I am contacting you because of your involvement in the topic ban that was placed against me. I would like to make the best of the next six months and am requesting your input on how best to do so.

What do you see as the appropriate way to oppose a longstanding Wikipedia MoS rule? My own take was to initiate no new threads or RfCs but participate in those started by others (which happens once or twice a year). This clearly was not something that you guys consider acceptable. What do you think I should do instead? Is it just that there was too much of it?

I notice that my offers to engage in a voluntary restriction were not accepted. What would you have seen as more suitable? Is it that I was asking you guys what you wanted me to do instead of making my own guesses?

What can I do over the next six months to give you guys confidence that I can be allowed to return to work?

I am understanding the topic ban to cover both MoS pages, articles concerning quotation marks, and their respective talk pages. Is this the case? Before I became involved, both Quotation marks in English and Full stop contained significant amounts of unsourced material and I am worried that that content will be returned. If I should happen to see such a case, am I allowed to notify someone else that the unsourced material is there?

I also feel that user SMcCandlish was not honest with you and should be treated as an outlier. Darkfrog24 (talk) 14:57, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

For ease of future reference, I will reply on your talk page. Thryduulf (talk) 15:14, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

Loose end

Could you please close this NPOVN thread? It was simply round one of what became WP:AE#Dicklyon and Darkfrog24, and was mooted by that AE request's closure. No one has posted to it since 11 January. Restarting discussion there when one of the parties is topic banned would be useless, and MoS it outside the scope of a WP:CORE noticeboard to begin with. I asked ANRFC to close this a long time ago, but I see that they have a huge backlog.  — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽^ʌⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ^ʌ≼  04:40, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

I'm not overly familiar with that noticeboard, but it looks like threads get automatically archived after 14 days of no activity and aren't generally actively closed. Doing so now looks like it will just delay the bot by a fortnight, without any benefit as nobody has touched it since the AE started. If you really want to close it though, then noting it as moot with a link to the AE thread would be fine for an NAC. Thryduulf (talk) 09:39, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

I would, because that noticeboard thread still being open would effectively preclude WP:MFDing the polemic MOS:SUPPORTS page until it closes, and I said over a month ago I was going to MfD this (the NPOVN filing appears to have been an attempt to thwart that planned action). However, I was a party in the discussion, the 14 days is almost up anyway, and now that I think on it several more hours, I"m not certain I want to be the one who takes the MfD action, especially if someone else steps up to do it sometime soon-ish. So, no big deal.  :-)  — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽^ʌⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ^ʌ≼  12:46, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

Topic-ban violations

After all the administrative warnings to just walk away, Darkfrog24 seems to be instead engaging in attempted harassment by tagteam proxy, in trying to recruit another MOS/AT editor (who did not take the bait) to vexatiously go after me personally while DF24 cheerleads: "I'm going to be speaking very carefully because I'm the one under topic ban right now. ... If you want to vent and blow off steam and just talk about frustration with SmC, that's one thing. If you have something concrete enough for a formal complaint, I'd be interested in hearing about it. Some of this [diffs that DF24 provided further up] may be corroborating." [1]. DF24, as you know, blames me for the TB. This is surely a violation of the TB, broadly construed, in attempting to perpetuate and intensely personalize the very same dispute, seemingly just to get revenge (which sounds like a worse TB violation that many might be). The first quoted sentence looks to indicate that DF24 knows they're skirting the rim of the ban, only days after being informed how broad the scope really is [2] and what the result would be if they did that [3].

This isn't even the only TB violation in the same post; there's a less vindictive but topically tied one: "[The] topic ban of SMC had an expiration date of two months, and it was overturned on appeal.... I'm not really sure what the argument was. I'll see if I can find the thread.", followed by the promised diffs of the overturn [4]. The action in question was the (temporary) result of ...wait for it... my WP:ANEW request relating to DF24's logical quotation editwarring at both MOS and the article. DF24, incidentally, received a {{Ds/alert}} for WP:ARBATC and a warning (not overturned) as a result of that ANEW [5].

The third-party editor isn't even involved in the LQ debate and declared it tiresome, in the round in Sept. that resulted in my ANEW request. He's just a not exactly random AT/MOS editor – one to whom (noting an earlier argument between me and that editor about MOS talk page behavior) DF24 has repeatedly cast WP:ASPERSIONS about my mental health (all of these post-date the Ds/alert, and one the TB): "we should all hope that he just ... figures himself out." [6], and between the Ds/alert and the TB, showing this is a pattern (I only discovered these just now): [7], [8]. This is in addition to the string of dishonesty allegations without evidence (only links to DF24's previous disagreements with me); accusations which actually increased after the TB [9], [10], [11], [12], etc.

Because this is personalized battlegrounding in contravention of WP:ARBATC#All parties reminded, this is as much a discretionary sanctions matter as an AE topic-ban one. Given the attempt to recruit a AT/MOS editor, who is not an LQ foe, into a tagteam (an editor with whom I've had constructive interactions the last couple of days, including a [thank]), and because DF24 has actually been remarkably productive in mainspace since the TB, without disruption there, I have to suggest that the appropriate response isn't the promised block [13] (which might increase vengefulness upon return), but an ARBATC-wide TB, of longer min. duration (or at least MOS-wide, though the regular editorial pool on both mostly overlaps, and a large amount of AT discussion is also MOS discussion, and vice versa). This would remove any real ability of DF24 to involve more AT/MOS regulars about AT/MOS disputes with other AT/MOS regulars, yet keep the editor editing, and obviate any need for further action. DF24 needs to go meet some new people in a different room of the party.  — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽^ʌⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ^ʌ≼  21:38, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

If you believe that Darkfrog is violating their topic ban and/or other discretionary sanctions then you should file a report at AE where both are handled. I wont get chance to even read your statement fully until tomorrow evening at the earliest. Thryduulf (talk) 00:44, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

Oh! Okay. I thought we were supposed to report it to the TB-issuing admin first. I spend so little time in the 'boards, I know little about the procedures.  — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽^ʌⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ^ʌ≼  01:33, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

I didn't actually get the ping at the last AE thing, but am kind of glad, since the whole thing is tiresome. Thanks for giving DF24 so much slack for so long, though, trying as that must have been. While I did think that the TB needed to be MoS-level, not just quotation-marks-specific, I was actually hoping that no block would be needed, that the editor would just give it a rest after fuming for a while. I didn't expect that kind of recalcitrance, and it's a bit of a bummer, because DF24 is pretty good at other things, like NPOV noticeboard stuff, and removing PoV from BLPs. Anyway, I also appreciate that you weren't taking all their claims seriously. DF24's position about quotation marks is awash in original research, as others have pointed out; it's a novel synthesis of British style guides saying that one quotation style is more favored by American publishers, and vice versa, turned into a claims of DF24's own invention that only two styles exist, and that there is only one "correct" way to punctuate anything in "American English", as if publishers determined rather than reflected how a dialect operates, and as if punctuation was actually a dialect matter rather than a set of trends in particular publishing industry sectors.  — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽^ʌⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ^ʌ≼  10:18, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

User talk:Woodseats44 and probably User talk:Cobulator and probably User:DeFacto and apparently quite a lot of others

You may want to reconsider the lifting of the block on the above. Having been unblocked in February 2015, he has recommenced his campaign to add the tag 'Previous Denomination: Roman Catholic' to the infoboxes of a large number of pre-Reformation English and Welsh churches, e.g. Church of St. Nicholas, Grosmont, Church of St Cadoc, Raglan, Monmouthshire and many others. This is exactly the action he undertook at Lincoln Cathedral for which, after lengthy debate on the Talkpage, he was originally blocked. Regards. KJP1 (talk) 19:06, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

This was an action for the BASC rather than me individually. I don't recall the details of why we unblocked (and I no longer have access to the mailing list archives to check), but this belongs at ANI I think. I don't have time now to review their edits, but there is no barrier to a block being placed by any uninvolved administrator. Thryduulf (talk) 20:33, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

NB: I raised a similar concern with you about your unblocking of this editor a couple of months back: diff. You noted to the editor when you unblocked him that "please be advised that your contributions will be closely watched". Any help you can give would be gratefully appreciated. Hchc2009 (talk) 20:53, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

I don't have time at the moment to do anything more than advise you to note all this at ANI, I'm sorry. I have no objection to an admin reblocking iff what you allege is true, but I do not have the time to do the necessary reading. Thryduulf (talk) 21:06, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

Not a problem at all and I quite understand that the unblock was the action of a committee, rather than you personally. I'm not familiar with the ANI process but I'll look to take it forward through that route. That time has to be spent on dealing with this nonsense rather than on creating content is just such a pity. Thanks and best regards. KJP1 (talk) 21:23, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

Appreciate your advice. The ANI process has responded very promptly and blocked him indefinitely. KJP1 (talk) 14:01, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the Refugee link

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Clarification request archived

Hello Thryduulf, this is a message to inform you that a clarification request regarding the Editor conduct in e-cigs articles arbitration case (t) (ev / t) (w / t) (pd / t) which you commented on or were a party to has been archived to Wikipedia talk:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Editor conduct in e-cigs articles with no action taken. For the Arbitration Committee, Kharkiv07 (T) 01:02, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

If anything is unclear

I am inferring that the previous stipulation that the topic ban does not cover editing under normal rules is still in effect. Is this correct? This would mean that I may, for example, correct a miscapitalized word, replace the generic he or remove an unnecessary "that" and write an edit summary per normal rules but that I may not explain or discuss any such change on the talk page.

I am inferring that the topic ban does cover issues not related to quotation marks such as the MoS's rules on the generic he and the MoS's rules on gender identity. Is this correct?

I am inferring that the topic ban does not cover articles not covering issues not related to quotation marks, such as articles on the generic he or articles on gender identity.

If I am working on an article such as Caster Semenya, am I permitted to discuss gender identity and to what extent?

I am inferring that the essay on WP:LQ that I have been working on for a few years has to wait until after the topic ban is over. Is that correct?

I am inferring that I am not banned from discussions of other users' behavior, such as the one I had with Curly Turkey about SMcCandlish. Is this correct?

I do not believe that the duration of the topic ban should have been extended and I do not follow your reasoning on this. I'd like it if you explained.

I'd also like it if you said that you had read my rebuttal of SMcCandlish's accusations. I'm not saying that you didn't. I'm saying that I'd feel better if you affirmed that you had.

What can I do over the next twelve months to give you the confidence that I can be allowed back to work? Darkfrog24 (talk) 13:43, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

I have replied on your talk page. Thryduulf (talk) 14:05, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

One month in. I've been doing a lot of thinking about this, and I've got two questions: Both the first and second complaints contained a lot of qualitatively different accusations, and I'd like to know this: Which ones were given credence? I was accused of casting aspersions against another editor's mental health. That looked ridiculous on its face to me, but is that how you saw it? There was something about the conversation I had with Curly Turkey; I'm guessing it's that the topic ban covers more degrees of separation than I'd initially thought. I was accused of WP:OWN in the article space. I was accused of attempted proxying. I was accused of everything short of kicking puppies. Which of these claims did you consider merited and which did you exclude from consideration as unmerited?

The next issue also concerns the second complaint, particularly the role of the questions I asked involved admins after the first complaint, such as "What's the right way to go about challenges to WP:LQ?" Initially, I'd thought that the topic ban was meant to be temporary, that I was expected to resume participation at WT:MoS, and this would be a good way to start developing a more Wiki-compliant MO. However, when I got such a dramatic response, I started to wonder if I'd misunderstood and it was meant to be permanent. But the other day, you stated at BanEx that my first impression was correct, that topic bans are not meant to be permanent. So where was the response to this question coming from?

As always, my goal here is to spend the next eleven or however many months usefully. Darkfrog24 (talk) 17:04, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

@Darkfrog24: I've seen your message but don't have the time to reply right now and likely wont before tomorrow afternoon (UK time). Thryduulf (talk) 17:11, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

Permanent or temporary, this thing is set for at least another eleven months and change. I'd say it's no problem for you to take your time. Darkfrog24 (talk) 17:35, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

I've replied on your talk page. Thryduulf (talk) 10:48, 28 February 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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Wording question

Hi Thryduulf,

You appear to have skipped a critical word in "You are from the manual of style".

Could you comment at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject Manual of Style/External support‎? --SmokeyJoe (talk) 22:14, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

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Request for comment: Lead sentence for train or railway stations

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Copyright misuse

See talk page re yr name change comment. PraeceptorIP (talk) 22:05, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

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Clarity

Precious again, your statement on ARCA that deserves the label clarification, saying what I think but felt better not say.

Thank you also for making your entries unique for the different cases, - simple and helpful for watchlist readers. - music for you, performed in collaboration (with Thoughtfortheday). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:35, 28 March 2016 (UTC)

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Do you want one Edit tab, or two? It's your choice

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The editing interface will be changed soon. When that happens, editors who currently see two editing tabs – "Edit" and "Edit source" – will start seeing one edit tab instead. The single edit tab has been popular at other Wikipedias. When this is deployed here, you may be offered the opportunity to choose your preferred appearance and behavior the next time you click the Edit button. You will also be able to change your settings in the Editing section of Special:Preferences.

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This Month in GLAM: March 2016

This Month in GLAM – Volume VI, Issue III, March 2016 Headlines Argentina report: Edit-a-thons in Buenos Aires Asia report: Wikidata tour visits Jakarta Belgium report: Just For The Record: March France report: Zoology, feminism and contemporary art Germany report: Wiki loves librarians Greece report: Edit-a-thon in Athens Italy report: Biggest donation of photos from an Italian institution Latvia report: Edit-a-thon in Riga Macedonia report: Editing competition about the villages in Aegean Macedonia Netherlands report: Open Culture Data Lab Republic of Srpska report: First GLAM project in the Republic of Srpska Serbia report: GLAMers opened their doors to Wikimedia Serbia Spain report: Libraries, free pictures and audios & new partners UK report: GLAM Marches on in the UK Open Access report: BartBotje; Rats as dino models; Auditory illusion; Crab-hunting octopus Wikipedia Library report: Hashtags, Campaigns and New Access donations Wikidata report: A really busy month all round Calendar: April's GLAM events Read this edition in full • Single-page To assist with preparing the newsletter, please visit the newsroom. Past editions may be viewed here.

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ITN recognition for 2016 London Marathon

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This Month in GLAM: April 2016

This Month in GLAM – Volume VI, Issue IV, April 2016 Headlines Africa report: Wiki Loves Women in Africa Argentina report: Edit-a-thons in Buenos Aires Belgium report: Writing weeks in and about Brussels Bulgaria report: Meeting lots of museum directors Germany report: Learning in the GLAM field & how to edit the GND Italy report: MUSE Edit-a-thon and Backstage pass and Small Museums in Italy Macedonia report: ArchiWiki edit-a-thon; Wikimedian-in-residence Netherlands report: Edit-a-thon Attic Nights Norway report: Photographic portraits Poland report: Faras discoveries, Carpathian ethnography, and a spreadsheet-based uploader Spain report: Free pictures, edit-a-thons and new partners Sweden report: Connected Open Heritage; Offentligkonst.se; Digkult; ArbetSams museidagar; VISS; Museernas vårmöte; GLAM/ED collaboration UK report: GLAMwiki work in Yorkshire; Mitchell Arts Centre Special story: Halfway point of the Europeana Art History Challenge Open Access report: Hypercycle; Wikipedia Year of Science; Snake envenomings Wikidata report: Wikimedia Commons gets arbitrary access Calendar: May's GLAM events Read this edition in full • Single-page To assist with preparing the newsletter, please visit the newsroom. Past editions may be viewed here.

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As an admin, I have to ask you...

to be very careful in pronouncing set judgments regarding earliest date for block appeals, based on a summary judgment that some edit or another must be from a blocked editor (thereby resetting the clock, and extending his loss of privileges from the date of the purported new edit).

While I think it is fine to warn another editor that particular edits will likely be suspected as being his, when the time comes for his appeal of his block, to my knowledge, none of us here, neither editors nor admins can make such summary judgments on the fly. They have to be properly raised, and adjudicated (found by a consensus to be of the blocked editor), in my understanding. Cheers, and always, TY for continuing service. Le Prof Leprof 7272 (talk) 23:48, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

I'm unsure of the context of this (I haven't commented on any block appeals recently) so I'll comment only generally, it is sometimes very easy to tell whether an edit is from a given user or not (based on topic, editing style, username/IP used, content of the edit, pattern of editing, any off-wiki communication, etc) and checkusers can in many cases say definitively. If you feel someone has made an error in assigning a given edit to a given user, then bring that up directly explaining why you think it is in error. There is no requirement for a formal discussion or explicit consensus, although this is obviously best practice if it is unclear. Thryduulf (talk) 11:51, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

Those bridges

Osney Rail Bridge, (Radley), Nuneham Railway Bridge, (Culham), Appleford Railway Bridge, (Appleford, Didcot, Cholsey), Moulsford Railway Bridge, (Goring & Streatley), Gatehampton Railway Bridge, (Pangbourne, Tilehurst, Reading, Twyford, Maidenhead), Maidenhead Railway Bridge. --Redrose64 (talk) 20:04, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

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File:Tony Scott.jpg

If you think this image should be deleted, please feel free to tag it as one of FFD. Nevertheless, this image was uploaded several years ago. I don't think Ridley Scott would ever allow a picture of his late brother to be used for common usage, would he? --George Ho (talk) 01:03, 22 May 2016 (UTC)

I don't have time right now to do a detailed search, but there is a big difference between a person who died in 2012 and one who died a few days ago. Thryduulf (talk) 10:03, 22 May 2016 (UTC)

IPBE RfC v2

As you commented on WP:IBE RfC Grant exemptions to users in good standing on request, you may wish to also comment on my alternative proposal, WP:IBE RfC Automatically grant IPBE to users by proof of work alone . Sai ¿?✍ 11:37, 25 May 2016 (UTC)

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Mentioned your name...

at User talk:Newyorkbrad#Rick Alan Ross and New religious movements in general and ArbCom. If I am right that you proposed the amendment I mention, you might have a better idea where it can be found in the maze that is ArbCom and its history and archives. If you can find it, I would be very grateful. John Carter (talk) 22:24, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

Grundy

I emailed the AFI about four days ago regarding this image which I have asked them to reduce to CC 2.5. Nothing back yet but I guess the organisation is busy. I got a positive response from Surrey CC when I emailed them a couple of times, so it just proved that making an effort was worthwhile and could yield results despite the false assertions of all the nay-sayers. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:20, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

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This Month in GLAM: May 2016

This Month in GLAM – Volume VI, Issue V, May 2016 Headlines Africa report: Joburg, Côte d’Ivoire, Cameroon, Nigeria and Ghana Brazil report: Immigration Museum of Sao Paulo: first steps towards an open access policy France report: Photography, a true hobby! Germany report: "Licence hint generator" at WMDEs event series about legal issues Italy report: A full month of activities Latvia report: Edit-a-thon in Latvian Academy of Culture Macedonia report: 1963 Skopje earthquake 300 photos Mexico report: Forestry and the Longest Edit-a-thon in history Netherlands report: Colonial images; Coutinho collection; Open Cultural Data; Netherlands and the world; NL Art History challenge Norway report: International Memory of the world register; Speak Norwegian? Access to The National Library's bokhylla.no? Spain report: Wiki Loves Earth; free resources; Pentathlon Wikimedia Sweden report: LSH upload; World Wide Wikipedia; Nationalmuseum Switzerland report: ETH-Bibliothek commences mass uploading campaign for photographs from the Image Archive UK report: Oxford and Scotland USA report: Archivist Award Special story: Ted Speakers Challenge - Win Books! Wiki Loves Earth Biosphere Reserves report: UNESCO and Wiki Loves Earth partner to run Wiki Loves Earth Biosphere Reserves in 120 countries throughout June Open Access report: WikiCite; Fluorescent vertebrates; Insights into a singer's head WMF GLAM report: WMF GLAM report Wikidata report: We feel used (and that makes us happy) OpenGLAM Benchmark Survey report: Survey results presented at conferences in Hong Kong and Montreal Wikimania report: GLAM at Wikimania Calendar: June's GLAM events Read this edition in full • Single-page To assist with preparing the newsletter, please visit the newsroom. Past editions may be viewed here.

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Discussion has just begun

Please give it some time for consensus to form. Per the comment on global policy, User:Slaporte (WMF) said he would comment. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 18:45, 30 June 2016 (UTC)

I edited the page before seeing this message and your comment on the talk page, but stand by edit even after seeing them. Thryduulf (talk) 18:58, 30 June 2016 (UTC)

Editing News #2—2016

Editing News #2—2016 Read this in another language • Subscription list for this multilingual newsletter

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It's quick and easy to insert a references list.

Place the cursor where you want to display the references list (usually at the bottom of the page). Open the "Insert" menu and click the "References list" icon (three books).

If you are using several groups of references, which is relatively rare, you will have the opportunity to specify the group. If you do that, then only the references that belong to the specified group will be displayed in this list of references.

Finally, click "Insert" in the dialog to insert the References list. This list will change as you add more footnotes to the page.

You can read and help translate the user guide, which has more information about how to use the visual editor.

Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor team has fixed many bugs. Their workboard is available in Phabricator. Their current priorities are improving support for Arabic and Indic scripts, and adapting the visual editor to the needs of the Wikivoyages and Wikisources.

Recent changes

The visual editor is now available to all users at most Wikivoyages. It was also enabled for all contributors at the French Wikinews.

The single edit tab feature combines the "Edit" and "Edit source" tabs into a single "Edit" tab. It has been deployed to several Wikipedias, including Hungarian, Polish, English and Japanese Wikipedias, as well as to all Wikivoyages. At these wikis, you can change your settings for this feature in the "Editing" tab of Special:Preferences. The team is now reviewing the feedback and considering ways to improve the design before rolling it out to more people.

Future changes

The "Save page" button will say "Publish page". This will affect both the visual and wikitext editing systems. More information is available on Meta.

The visual editor will be offered to all editors at the remaining "Phase 6" Wikipedias during the next few months. The developers want to know whether typing in your language feels natural in the visual editor. Please post your comments and the language(s) that you tested at the feedback thread on mediawiki.org. This will affect several languages, including: Arabic, Hindi, Thai, Tamil, Marathi, Malayalam, Urdu, Persian, Bengali, Assamese, Aramaic and others.

The team is working with the volunteer developers who power Wikisource to provide the visual editor there, for opt-in testing right now and eventually for all users. (T138966)

The team is working on a modern wikitext editor. It will look like the visual editor, and be able to use the citoid service and other modern tools. This new editing system may become available as a Beta Feature on desktop devices around September 2016. You can read about this project in a general status update on the Wikimedia mailing list.

Let's work together

• Do you teach new editors how to use the visual editor? Did you help set up the Citoid automatic reference feature for your wiki? Have you written or imported TemplateData for your most important citation templates? Would you be willing to help new editors and small communities with the visual editor? Please sign up for the new VisualEditor Community Taskforce.
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ITN recognition for Austrian presidential election, 2016

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This Month in GLAM: June 2016

This Month in GLAM – Volume VI, Issue VI, June 2016 Headlines Argentina report: Edit-a-thons and contest in Buenos Aires Belgium report: Just For The Record; Wiki Loves Art preparations Brazil report: New steps for the GLAM movement in Brazil France report: « Veni, vidi, wiki ! » Germany report: GLAM on Tour is a format, is a statement, is a tag Italy report: Contemporary art images from BEIC Macedonia report: National library collaboration and Contemporary art on Wikidata Mexico report: 3 continuous days of art; Efforts against the Wikipedia Gender Gap Netherlands report: Image donation by the Museum Catharijneconvent; 1300 Dutch underground newspapers from WW2; Collaboration with public libraries Spain report: Involving libraries in Wikimedia projects Sweden report: World Wide Wikipedia; Royal Library; Monuments database to Wikidata migration; Swiss Open Cultural Data Hackathon 2016 UK report: Wellcome USA report: June is busting out all over Open Access report: Open Science Fellows Program; OA Signalling Wikipedia Library report: Books & Bytes Wikidata report: Wikidatamania WMF GLAM report: A Wikimania Reflection, GLAM Phabricator Queues, and a WMF Update Calendar: July's GLAM events Read this edition in full • Single-page To assist with preparing the newsletter, please visit the newsroom. Past editions may be viewed here.

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