Thrillydee

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Olmecs

Although it is correct to say that there have been WP:fringe suggestions of an African origin for the Olmecs, they are not "notable" among those studying the Olmecs, and the section is about ethno-linguistic relationships. Doug Weller talk 15:22, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

Dr. Van Sertima is most certainly notable, among others. I noticed one of the descriptions of Van Sertima's work was categorized as "pseudo-science", yet nothing was specified as why it was considered that. What has been proven wrong about Van Sertima's work?

Thrillydee (talk) 08:18, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

He's basically ignored by archaeologists, which is why I said what I did. He's notable enough to have his own article. The real question would be what has been proven to be correct, ie to be pseudoarcheology. Ironically he was also racist in that, like some white fringe writers, he was arguing that "the natives didn't do it". Doug Weller talk 09:53, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

If Van Sertima work can be dismissed and he can be considered racist because he said"the natives didn't do it", then by that same logic, can other archeologists be considered racist because they dismiss any Black historian or archaeologist as "pseudo", no matter what evidence they bring?

Thrillydee (talk) 14:51, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

That's not logical and doesn't happen, so no. But I'm not going to argue this anymore. You're making arguments with no reliable sources and I don't have time anyway. Doug Weller talk 15:21, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

I didn't know you were "arguing." I was simply asking questions pertaining to your justifications on applying certain labels. Thrillydee (talk) 02:32, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

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Jezebel's Ponyo^{bons mots} 23:32, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

• In addition to picking up where Wennradio left off, you used proxies to edit and to create sleeper accounts in quick succession (i.e. Historybrainz (talk · contribs) and Popcornhemp (talk · contribs)). There is no doubt that you this account was created in bad faith contrary to our policies regarding multiple accounts.-- Jezebel's Ponyo^{bons mots} 23:42, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

I'm not a "sock puppet" of anyone's account nor am I using proxies. I was editing in good faith, yet it seems that all these excuses are meant to deflect from the fact that some wikipedia users such as Horse Eye's Back are allowed to basically prank post on here unchecked. Thrillydee (talk) 23:54, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

If you continue to use your talk page to attack other editors your access to it will be removed. Note that this block is based on technical evidence. If you wish to appeal, follow the instructions, but simply making claims of innocence isn't likely to fly. Doug Weller talk 13:51, 19 November 2021 (UTC)