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For the Mediation Committee, TransporterMan (TALK) 16:41, 6 September 2017 (UTC)
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intentional deception
I'm responding here because the TP discussion has been closed and I wanted to still say a few things.
I agree with what you said: the first known promulgator of the CS was being intentionally deceptive. I don't think there's any doubt about that. And I have no real doubts that a significant minority of those pushing this CS do so dishonestly.
The problem is that a lie told by one person stops being just a lie when thousands of people believe it, and do more to spread it than the originator ever could. It becomes a conspiracy theory which was based on a lie. If this were a smaller phenomenon, with only the most extreme of far-right sources pushing it, I would likely assume it to be true that those pushing it do not believe it for the most part. But this became so widespread that I cannot jive the notion that most push it dishonestly with what I know about people. I just can't accept that so many people on the political right in this country would be so dishonest as to accuse people of such horrible things simply because they disagree with their politics. The fact that the sources treat it as a CS and refer to it as "debunked" is the real kicker, but in the context of my personal beliefs; that's just icing on the cake. Feel free to respond here if you wish to continue this discussion. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 00:32, 18 September 2017 (UTC)