User talk:The C of E/Archive 16

Topic Ban Enacted

By a a consensus of uninvolved administrators at Arbitration Enforcement you are indefinitely topic banned from all pages relating to The Troubles, Irish nationalism, and British nationalism in relation to Ireland, broadly construed. Please let me know if you have any questions. Barkeep49 (talk) 02:35, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

I hate to pile on, but there was support for three proposed sections at AN as well, and it wasn't looking like it was going to swing any other way. You can still propose hooks (outwith the areas of politics, religion, and LBGTQ), but essentially cannot edit or defend them without proposing a completely new version. The full close is here. Primefac (talk) 23:01, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

Talk about overkill @Primefac:. I am probably going to appeal/ask for clarification on that hook veto in the morning because I know it will inevitably get abused by someone who doesn't like the hook/me and objects to hooks on personal grounds rather than any policy based issue. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 23:14, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

Can't say as I disagree with you there... Primefac (talk) 23:21, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

And PLEASE archive your talk page which, at more than 600 sections, is completely inaccessible to many. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 23:11, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

Another comment: If you need help with archive setup I can help you set it up :D It's an easy copypaste job for me to help you much love <3 Vincent^LUFan (talk) (Kenton!) 14:58, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

Hi, I am reverting this edit on a NI-politics discussion because I think it violates the above topic ban. I'm not going to enact any other warnings, let alone blocks, as I believe them to be draconian, but I need to caution you that if you continue to skirt the boundaries, this may well happen. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 14:48, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

@Ritchie333: I don't see how it does. The article in question preceded The Troubles and only had a slight potential dealing with nationalism. I wasn't even proposing any hooks there so I do not see how the DYK one applies. It was a simple question in relation to a discussion that occurred whilst I was away. If I am not even allowed to question what happened, I agree it is very draconian indeed. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 14:55, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

It's tacking a comment onto the end of a discussion about a NI-politics related hook, after the thread had closed. It's not really a big issue, but bans apply to all edits, large and small. Seriously, I've seen admins issue AE blocks for this (which take time and effort to appeal). Easiest thing is to give the whole area a wide berth. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 15:00, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

^^^^ Bad Ban ^^^^

Sorry to see this happening, as you know I commented on An about this. I think you got shafted. Hopefully they'll come to their senses and drop this ridiculous ban W.K.W.W.K...^{Toss a coin to the witcher, ye valley of plenty} 14:37, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

I hope so too @Wekeepwhatwekill:. I'm awaiting the person who made the ban to clarify what I'm banned from doing before I ask what I can do about it. I do feel like I'm being picked on here with all the hooks that some people didn't like being dragged up to paint me as something I'm not. :( Thank you for standing up for me, I do appreciate it since no-one seems to be listening to anything I say. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 14:46, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

I have not yet read the background to this ban - I've only just heard about it - but from the outside it seems odd to me. I supported the closure of the 1946 Londonderry Borough Council election nom, because following the ban it was serving no other purpose than prolonging the pain. Personally I see nothing wrong with the article which looks neutral to me, and as far as I could see, the hook was just saying what happened in history. But the nom discussion was no longer about that. I am happy to continue to support and review all noms where I don't think they are doing harm. Keep up the good work. You have contributed a lot to WP. Storye book (talk) 21:12, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

@Storye book: I do feel I got singled out for editing in controversial areas that others daren't touch and that my positive contributions got overlooked in the discussion. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 15:00, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

Regarding the subject of the abovementioned DYK nom: there's an old saying that anyone who reckons that they understand Irish politics, doesn't understand Irish politics. This is because its history and its present political situation is always so complex. That makes it impossible to give a safe overall neutral representation of those politics at any point in time, therefore whatever you say, however honourable the intention, can get a backlash from somewhere. Don't be disheartened - it is how it is. Again, all the best, and keep up the good work. Storye book (talk) 08:43, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Fermanagh County Council

On 31 August 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Fermanagh County Council, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that in 1921, before the partition of Ireland, Fermanagh County Council did not recognise the government of Northern Ireland and pledged allegiance to the Dáil Éireann? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Fermanagh County Council. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Fermanagh County Council), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:02, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

I know times can be stressful, especially considering all the brilliant work you've put into this encyclopedia, so, while it's not much, I hope this kitten helps :)

Ed talk! 21:32, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Rosemary Barton (politician)

On 1 September 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Rosemary Barton (politician), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Ulster Unionist Party politician Rosemary Barton highlighted concerns of intimidation from Gaelic football fans towards those who do not follow the sport? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Rosemary Barton (politician). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Rosemary Barton (politician)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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WikiCup 2020 September newsletter

The fourth round of the competition has finished, with 865 points being required to qualify for the final round, nearly twice as many points as last year. It was a hotly competitive round with two contestants with 598 and 605 points being eliminated, and all but two of the contestants who reached the final round having achieved an FA during the round. The highest scorers were

• Bloom6132, with 1478 points gained mainly from 5 featured lists, 12 DYKs and 63 in the news items;
• HaEr48 with 1318 points gained mainly from 2 featured articles, 5 good articles and 8 DYKs;
• Lee Vilenski with 1201 points mainly gained from 2 featured articles and 10 good articles.

Between them, contestants achieved 14 featured articles, 14 featured lists, 2 featured pictures, 87 good articles, 90 DYK entries, 75 ITN entries, 95 featured article candidate reviews and 81 good article reviews. Congratulations to all who participated! It was a generally high-scoring and productive round and I think we can expect a highly competitive finish to the competition.

Remember that any content promoted after the end of round 4 but before the start of round 5 can be claimed in round 5. Remember too that you must claim your points within 10 days of "earning" them. If you are concerned that your nomination will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. It would be helpful if this list could be cleared of any items no longer relevant. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to keep down the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Godot13 (talk), Sturmvogel 66 (talk), Vanamonde (talk), Cwmhiraeth (talk) MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 19:53, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Matt Smith (footballer, born 2000)

On 19 September 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Matt Smith (footballer, born 2000), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Arsenal footballer Matt Smith won an FA Cup winners medal without having made his debut for Arsenal? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Matt Smith (footballer, born 2000). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Matt Smith (footballer, born 2000)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 00:47, 19 September 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Hong Kong Logistic Support Regiment RLC

On 22 September 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Hong Kong Logistic Support Regiment RLC, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Hong Kong Logistic Support Regiment RLC was nicknamed the "1000-Day Regiment" as its 1,181 days of service made it possibly the shortest-lived peacetime regiment in the British Army? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Hong Kong Logistic Support Regiment RLC. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Hong Kong Logistic Support Regiment RLC), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 00:02, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

Watching paint

Hey, just a note to follow up. I reverted your edit on Watching paint dry. The article you cited is not really from 1946. I was initially fooled by it too. If you look closely, the page at issue is a discussion of Jim Jarmusch's film Down by Law (film) which was released in 1986. Cbl62 (talk) 09:04, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

Yes @Cbl62: I saw that, and commented on the DYK that the source made a mistake. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 09:06, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Watching paint dry

— Maile (talk) 00:02, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

Did you know nominations: English Law (Application) Act 1962

Hi. Please see your nomination page, as there are some issues. Moonraker (talk) 06:26, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

Please see there again. Moonraker (talk) 16:43, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

DYK for English Law (Application) Act 1962

On 22 October 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article English Law (Application) Act 1962, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the English Law (Application) Act 1962 ended legal recognition of seduction as a civil offence in Gibraltar? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/English Law (Application) Act 1962. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, English Law (Application) Act 1962), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:03, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

Barnstars

	Barnstars
	I have incorporated Mascot section "in the community section" on Arsenal F.C page I have no intention of creating edit war I created talk page section to have a discussion on this matter. Please do not revert until I see disagreement Footieedit (talk) 21:23, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

WikiCup 2020 November newsletter

The 2020 WikiCup has come to an end, with the final round going down to the wire. Our new Champion is Lee Vilenski (submissions), the runner-up last year, who was closely followed by Gog the Mild (submissions). In the final round, Lee achieved 4 FAs and 30 GAs, mostly on cue sport topics, while Gog achieved 3 FAs and 15 GAs, mostly on important battles and wars, which earned him a high number of bonus points. The Rambling Man (submissions) was in third place with 4 FAs and 8 GAs on football topics, with Epicgenius (submissions) close behind with 19 GAs and 16 DYK's, his interest being the buildings of New York.

The other finalists were Hog Farm (submissions), HaEr48 (submissions), Harrias (submissions) and Bloom6132 (submissions). The final round was very productive, and besides 15 FAs, contestants achieved 75 FAC reviews, 88 GAs and 108 GAN reviews. Altogether, Wikipedia has benefited greatly from the activities of WikiCup competitors all through the contest. Well done everyone!

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• Bloom6132 (submissions) win the featured list prize, for 5 FLs in round 4.
• Rhododendrites (submissions) wins the featured picture prize, for 3 FPs in round 3 and 5 overall.
• Lee Vilenski (submissions) wins the featured article reviewer prize, for 23 FAC reviews in round 5.
• Epicgenius (submissions) wins the good article prize, for 45 GAs in round 2 and 113 overall.
• MPJ-DK (submissions) wins the topic prize, for 33 articles in good topics in round 2.
• The Rambling Man (submissions) wins the good article reviewer prize, for 100 good article reviews in round 2.
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500 DYK Creation and Expansion Medal

		The 500 DYK Creation and Expansion Medal
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DYK for Arsenal Women 11–1 Bristol City Women

Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

New Page Patrol December Newsletter

Hello The C of E,

Year in review

It has been a productive year for New Page Patrol as we've roughly cut the size of the New Page Patrol queue in half this year. We have been fortunate to have a lot of great work done by Rosguill who was the reviewer of the most pages and redirects this past year. Thanks and credit go to JTtheOG and Onel5969 who join Rosguill in repeating in the top 10 from last year. Thanks to John B123, Hughesdarren, and Mccapra who all got the NPR permission this year and joined the top 10. Also new to the top ten is DannyS712 bot III, programmed by DannyS712 which has helped to dramatically reduce the number of redirects that have needed human patrolling by patrolling certain types of redirects (e.g. for differences in accents) and by also patrolling editors who are on on the redirect whitelist.

Rank	Username	Num reviews	Log
1	DannyS712 bot III (talk)	67,552	Patrol Page Curation
2	Rosguill (talk)	63,821	Patrol Page Curation
3	John B123 (talk)	21,697	Patrol Page Curation
4	Onel5969 (talk)	19,879	Patrol Page Curation
5	JTtheOG (talk)	12,901	Patrol Page Curation
6	Mcampany (talk)	9,103	Patrol Page Curation
7	DragonflySixtyseven (talk)	6,401	Patrol Page Curation
8	Mccapra (talk)	4,918	Patrol Page Curation
9	Hughesdarren (talk)	4,520	Patrol Page Curation
10	Utopes (talk)	3,958	Patrol Page Curation

Reviewer of the Year

John B123 has been named reviewer of the year for 2020. John has held the permission for just over 6 months and in that time has helped cut into the queue by reviewing more than 18,000 articles. His talk page shows his efforts to communicate with users, upholding NPP's goal of nurturing new users and quality over quantity.

NPP Technical Achievement Award

As a special recognition and thank you DannyS712 has been awarded the first NPP Technical Achievement Award. His work programming the bot has helped us patrol redirects tremendously - more than 60,000 redirects this past year. This has been a large contribution to New Page Patrol and definitely is worthy of recognition.

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DYK for Exeter Chiefs Women

On 12 December 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Exeter Chiefs Women, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that newly founded Exeter Chiefs Women were given a place in the top flight of English women's rugby union ahead of Richmond Women, historically one of the most successful teams in England? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Exeter Chiefs Women. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Exeter Chiefs Women), and it may be added to the statistics page if it received over 400 views per hour. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:03, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

SA Flag

Hello

I just noticed the (great) work you have done on Flag of South Africa (1928–1994). Thank you ! I am a member of the Wikipedia:WikiProject South Africa/Wikipedia Primary School project and as part of this project, we have asked Bruce B Berry to help in reviewing the article on the Flag of South Africa. He sent us some notes by email, which I integrated today. I was considering asking him his opinion on the 1928-1994 article... but would like to also ask you your own feedback on the current flag article. Any info to add or to remove or to modify ? Thank you in advance. Anthere (talk)

The SA flag was inspired by many people and it was actually a symbol of getting along and well-being it has put alots of pride a and peace to the people of SouthAfrica therefore we say thank you Tata madiba for getting us along and your legecy will continue to live for generations to come Andiswawenzi (talk) 18:35, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

@Anthere: Well I think with the current flag article, it could do with some more info on it's usage beyond 1997. At the moment it's mostly skewed towards the reason for its creation. So things that happened in the 2000s onwards (including the FIFA World Cup, Lions Tours etc.) would help improve it. @Andiswawenzi:. Then again, I am looking at this as an Englishman (who hopes to be visiting next year for the Lions tour) so you might know more about its use in recent times than I. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 19:04, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

	A very merry DYK Christmas
	Dear The C of E: Merry Christmas to you and yours! And thank you for your help with writing and reviewing Christmasy articles -- we have a complete themed set for Christmas at DYK this year! Best, Yoninah (talk) 20:47, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

DYK for FC Santa Claus

On 24 December 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article FC Santa Claus, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that a football club in Finland called FC Santa Claus has competed as high as the third tier? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/FC Santa Claus. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, FC Santa Claus), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (ie, 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

Merry Christmas and Happy New year

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DYK for One Voice at Christmas

On 25 December 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article One Voice at Christmas, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that One Voice at Christmas involves Aled Jones duetting Christmas carols with his younger self and the late Terry Wogan? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/One Voice at Christmas. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, One Voice at Christmas), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (ie, 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

DYK for The Twelve Days of Christmas (Correspondence)

On 25 December 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article The Twelve Days of Christmas (Correspondence), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that sending the real animals and personnel in The Twelve Days of Christmas resulted in a letter from G. Creep, solicitor? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/The Twelve Days of Christmas (Correspondence). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, The Twelve Days of Christmas (Correspondence)), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (ie, 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:03, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2021!

Hello The C of E, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2021. Happy editing, Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 01:26, 25 December 2020 (UTC) Spread the love by adding {{subst:Seasonal Greetings}} to other user talk pages.

DYK for Max Crabtree

On 29 December 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Max Crabtree, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that English professional-wrestling promoter Max Crabtree created the Big Daddy gimmick? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Max Crabtree. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Max Crabtree), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (ie, 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 29 December 2020 (UTC)