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@Diannaa: Thank you for telling me! Forgot to do, and the article was temporarily deleted anyway (until another user reverted the edits) but thanks again for reminding me! Won't forget next time :) The Account 2 (talk) 21:41, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

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The Account 2, good luck, and have fun. scope_creepTalk 14:15, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

President of the Liberal Democratic Party (Japan)

Hi @The Account 2: Great article. I like these visual articles. I reviewed your article per WP:NPP page review. When you create a table based article with one summary article in every row, you need to add a reference in that row. There is usually notes column that has the reference. Can you please add a reference per line. It would be great to see. You also don't need the "himself" thing. Every where you a himself replace with full referencing to confirms he was leader. Hope that helps. scope_creepTalk 14:15, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

Hi @Scope creep:, thanks! However, I must say that I didn't create the table, but merely imported it from the original Liberal Democratic Party (Japan) article. I'll consider adding sources to it though, and oh, thanks for welcoming me to Wikipedia! The Account 2 (talk) 14:29, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
Thats great. The two references that are on it are insufficient to keep it out of draft, but since you updating it with refs it can stay there. scope_creepTalk 14:46, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

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Thank you for removing the 21st century section of the client state (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Client_state) Wikipedia article, since it was full of bad sources and couldn't be rewritten. Sincerely, 49.192.44.178 (talk) 09:48, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

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Trouble with pages being drastically modified

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There seem to be some problems on the List of countries by GDP (nominal) per capita and List of countries by GDP (PPP) per capita pages. A user called Groverlynn wishes to drastically alter the format of these articles & refuses to have the latest IMF data, for this year, shown -- insisting it is wrong & only previous years should be used instead... other users have objected to these changes, but to no avail. Perhaps someone can intervene?

Thank you! Dhyana b (talk) 22:54, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

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2018 party and government reform in China moved to draftspace

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Common prosperity article

Hi

I read you're "Common prosperity" article; very good! But I feel that you're misrepresenting what Deng Xiaoping actually said. Deng never said that "who redefined the term by saying that common prosperity meant that some could get rich before others"... Deng said that common prosperity was only viable if the country was advanced economically. That is, for common prosperity to be viable, some people needed to get rich first.


Communism and Mao are against egalitarianism. It is correct that his policies have been accused of egalitarianism after his death, but Mao did not support egalitarianism. He supported common prosperity because I thought China could advance such societal relations.

See .. I would at, the very least, include Deng's quote "letting some people get rich first and help others to get rich later". One should also note that common prosperity is according to the CPC something to be achieved, not something they have. It's an ideological goal - a goal on the way to communism. Tha's why he says: "The greatest superiority of socialism is that it enables all the people to prosper, and common prosperity is the essence of socialism".

These are my suggestions, but it would make the article better and more correct.

Other than that: great article! I was surprised to see such a topic being nominated for GA. Great work! TheUzbek (talk) 08:51, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

Thanks a lot! Will edit. The Account 2 (talk) 18:46, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

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Thanks for the contributions

Hello! Saw the changelog, no problem. All I had done was make neutral that one portion (two sentences in the lede) when they were replicated/moved up from the body. My submission must have occurred between edits, because in retrospect I see how other changes were overwritten. You seemed to have noticed my intention and corrected it, accordingly. Looks good, thank you for your work on it! Top5a (talk) 02:02, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

Oh it's ok don't worry about it, and thanks a lot! :) The Account 2 (talk) 08:15, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

DYK for Common prosperity

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Propaganda in China

Given your knowledge and expertise on related topics, you might see that propaganda in China is out-of-date and could use some of your help. Thanks! - Amigao (talk) 19:58, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

@Amigao: Thanks! I will look (a bit busy to make large-scale changes right now but I'll do it as soon as I have the time). By the way, something that may be of your interest since you write about these topics; an article published by Ming Pao, citing sources, said that the CCP is considering creating a "Central Internal Affairs Commission" that will report directly to the CCP Central Committee during the upcoming session of the National People's Congress. Additionally, the Ministry of Public Security and the Ministry of State Security will apparently be transferred from the State Council to this new Commission. The article also says the Commission will be chaired by Wang Xiaohong. Seems like a major change to the Chinese security apparatus. The Account 2 (talk) 18:08, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
Good work with common prosperity and thanks for the help with propaganda in China. Could also use your good eye on elections in China when you have some time. - Amigao (talk) 23:14, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
Thanks! Will check. The Account 2 (talk) 17:26, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
I noticed that the below (the reference links are included on the articles) keeps getting removed from Propaganda in China and Censorship of Wikipedia. Any thoughts?
Despite being censored in mainland China, and as VPNs are normally not allowed to edit Wikipedia, Wikipedia administrators from China have permitted IP block exemptions for a select number of mainland users. Such users are recruited to change the editorial content on Wikipedia in support of China's viewpoint and/or to support the election of pro-Chinese government administrators on Wikipedia, with the aim of gaining control of Wikipedia. Academics suggested that “China urgently needs to encourage and train Chinese netizens to become Wikipedia platform opinion leaders and administrators … [who] can adhere to socialist values and form some core editorial teams.”
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HertzUranus (talk) 19:17, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
Hmmm, I think the longer part may be more appropriate in the Censorship of Wikipedia article, where it is already mentioned right now it seems. I would also support a shorter version in the Propaganda of China article, though it needs to be trimmed at it doesn't seem like such a critical example considering the long history of propaganda in modern China. Also, welcome to Wikipedia! The Account 2 (talk) 19:20, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

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@Yue:Thanks a lot! Have a great Mid-Autumn Festival as well!

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Template:Infobox Central Committee outline

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Thanks for adding the template "Infobox Central Committee outline" to the article Central Committee of the Communist Party of Vietnam! I've made some changes to it, and modelled it on the versions on the Presidency of the League of Communists of Yugoslavia, the Central Committee of the League of Communists of Yugoslavia, the 12th Central Committee of the Communist Party of Vietnam and the 12th Politburo of the Communist Party of Vietnam. I hope you approve of my changes. TheUzbek (talk) 08:01, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

Yes, ut's very useful template due to the unique status of communist parties. Also, great job you did with all the Communist Party related pages! Many of the membership lists look much better now. The Account 2 (talk) 10:34, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

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How about you update the China GDP table?

Since you seem to want to remove outdated material from the China article, how about you update the GDP table? The 2022 GDP number has come in and the one on the table is not that number, meaning that the table is outdated.

The article also needs more recent material on the nasty economic news recently out of China, from the real estate collapse, to derisking, to increasing levels of pollution, to an emerging banking crisis from at least $1 trillion in now unpayable real estate debt. 108.26.243.70 (talk) 20:09, 18 December 2023 (UTC)

Interesting

You might find this SCMP article interesting. Amigao (talk) 02:55, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

Thanks, will look at it. The Account 2 (talk) 09:58, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

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Awarded to you for your contributions on Christmas Day, because apparently you also have nothing better to do over the holidays than edit Wikipedia! Yue🌙 10:06, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
Merry Christmas to you too, Yue (talk · contribs)! And yeah, I'm definitely going to take a brief holiday these days. 😂 The Account 2 (talk) 11:07, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

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Hello, Diannaa (talk · contribs), what can I do to adding avoid copyrighted material? The information I added was a rough translation of a work published by the Chinese Communist Party. The translation, however, did match the China Media Project translation pretty closely. Are translations protected by copyright as well? Thanks, and sorry if I caused any trouble. The Account 2 (talk) 19:00, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
Translation of a copyright work still enjoys copyright protection, because it's a derivative work. Optiona are, either re-write the content in your own words, or offer a link to a website where the content is available. — Diannaa (talk) 14:20, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
Ok, thanks a lot! Will take care to not add such material from now on. The Account 2 (talk) 16:10, 26 December 2023 (UTC)

Korea

I think the December 1991 agreement between the two Koreas should be listed in the Establishment section of the infobox because it is an important document of Korea to establish the foundation of relations between the two Koreas, I think this document is more important than the Panmunjom Declaration. Perhaps we also need to mention this document in the main section of the article. https://ko.wikisource.org/wiki/%EB%82%A8%EB%B6%81%EC%82%AC%EC%9D%B4%EC%9D%98_%ED%99%94%ED%95%B4%EC%99%80_%EB%B6%88%EA%B0%80%EC%B9%A8_%EB%B0%8F_%EA%B5%90%EB%A5%98%C2%B7%ED%98%91%EB%A0%A5%EC%97%90_%EA%B4%80%ED%95%9C_%ED%95%A9%EC%9D%98%EC%84%9C Newwikinguser (talk) 14:26, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

I find a reliable source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1991/12/13/two-koreas-pledge-to-end-aggression/d104ab96-1a85-4024-8b61-bf9e43d779eb/
Also this: https://2001-2009.state.gov/t/ac/rls/or/2004/31012.htm
And this: https://www.nytimes.com/1991/12/13/world/koreas-sign-pact-renouncing-force-in-a-step-to-unity.html Newwikinguser (talk) 12:31, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
@The Account 2: You removed a detail on Korea which has been repeatedly added to that article by socks of Phạm Văn Rạng. I cannot say affirmatively that this new user, who created their account not even a day after you made your edit, is a sock of PVR's, but a duck is a duck. Yue🌙 03:32, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

Bureaucratic re-organizational question

I'm a bit unclear on the following China state bureaucracy question following the 2018 re-organization and thought you might know the answer. I've noticed your strong handle on the org chart following these changes. The Office of National Red Tourism Coordination Group was within CNTA. Am I correct to think it is now within the Ministry of Culture and Tourism? I appreciate any insight or source suggestions you may have if you have the time. JArthur1984 (talk) 20:07, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

JArthur1984 (talk · contribs) Hmmm, this is a tough one as this seems to be a pretty niche group. I would've guessed that this group would be listed under the bureaus of the Ministry of Culture and Tourism, but that doesn't seem to be the case. According to this 2018 source, it seems that the Office of National Red Tourism Coordination Group has been merged to the Department of Resource Development of the Ministry of Culture and Tourism (把原国家旅游局全国红色旅游工作协调工作并入资源开发司,“承担红色旅游相关工作”之中。没有把红色旅游纳入产业发展司,这种设置更加合理。). Hope that helps! The Account 2 (talk) 21:15, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
Thank you for this! JArthur1984 (talk) 22:34, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
Sure! Anytime. The Account 2 (talk) 10:12, 17 January 2024 (UTC)