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No problem mate, yeah absolutely excited for Vic's fight, with Alvarez-Cintron, Wlodarczyk-Green, Darchinyan-Moreno, Agbeko-Mares 2, Cotto-Margarito 2, Klitschko-Mormeck and Froch-Ward comming up, i can't remember a end of year program being topped off with so many consistently good fights on a weekly basis, soooo pumped!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aussieswimmer (talk • contribs) 01:17, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

Alvarez by TKO I'm really getting the bandwagon with him since his last few fights, Green by decision in a epic war. Darchinyan by a wide points decision, as good as Moreno is, he's struggled with Monshipour and Cermeno so i figure Vic can go one better than them. Mares all the way, Agbeko is tuff but i get a feeling Mares is on the way up and Agbeko is one the way out. I'm pulling for Cotto but i'm worried me may not be able to hold off Margarito's aggression, if he boxes a disciplined fight and only occasional exchanges with him, then he can get revenge. Klitschko maybe gets easiest win of the last 5 years. And Froch-Ward, i keep going back and forth. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aussieswimmer (talk • contribs) 03:13, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

== Slight mistake with evander's reign Evander's longest reign (3 years) was actually his 3rd reign. For that title reign he just had wba, ibf, ring, He had the wbc in his first heavyweight reign, If we applied former titles for multiple reigns the table would be a giant unreadable mess. I could put former ibf if that's puts a but more clarity, no hard feelings, just following the way the table was created. god bless — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aussieswimmer (talk • contribs) 02:03, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

September 2011

Welcome to Wikipedia. Please do not replace pages with blank content, as you did with this edit to Tommy Gunn, as this is confusing to readers. The page's content has been restored for now. If there is a problem with the page, it should be edited or reverted to a previous version if possible; if you think the page should be removed entirely, see further information. Thank you. Kubigula (talk) 22:02, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

I wasn't trying to replace it with blank content, I was trying to make the article about the actual fictional character Tommy Gunn so it didn't have to redirect to Rocky V. Can I still do that? I won't accidently erase the page this time. Sorry about that. TheShadowCrow (talk) 22:11, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

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Please refrain from personal attacks even if the other user is blocked and causing trouble.[1][2]]. If you can't keep your cool, wait for others to revert for what on the face on it are often style changes, avoiding thus the impression that you're personally out to enforce them. Just an example: Here, you're just reverting thus defending a fluffy and poorly sourced statement with an inappropriate edit summery.[3] Thanks.--Tikiwont (talk) 21:23, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

Don't think I'm being tricked. He has been edit warring and harassing you so he stays rightly indefinitely blocked and may indeed be banned permanently if they don't sop socking. I spent also part of my my time here assuring that. Please check out the relevant terms as you're confusing them. I was just curious if I see a glimmer of reason on their side.

Anyways and regardless of the quality of your contributions that I do not want to evaluate, but which we certainly don't measure byte by byte, if they're good others will agree. But your rights to edit do not include that to personal attacks in edit summaries. In short, my post above was referring only to you and only for you as I expect you to do better. The next content or style dispute will come up, some troll will show up or find an free IP or open proxy etc.--Tikiwont (talk) 09:04, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

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Please stop attacking other editors, as you did on Jean Pascal. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Warned previously because of the same. Tbhotch.^™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 02:11, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

No personal attacks

Hey,

I came to thank you for your valuable edits to Vitali Klitschko. And also to remind you that you must avoid any personal attacks on fellow users - such as the unexcusable summary to your recent edit. Happy edits, Ukrained (talk) 21:42, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

I am doing nothing wrong. I am just reverting a vandal's work. He is swearing at me and I haven't back. You should be telling me this and banning him. --TheShadowCrow (talk) 21:45, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

In fact, you're doing everything wrong. You're eagerly returning insults. And, by doing this, you are exaggerating suspicions that your referenced edits are not that neutral;) which I believe are. As for the other guy, he's going to be blocked in a matter of hours as a personal-attacking anon. The only question is: will YOU be as well? Stay cool, Ukrained (talk) 21:55, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

On a somewhat related note, I've issued a rangeblock against that the editor said comment was directed at. They're evading a block on an account on a number of IP addresses, so hopefully this will at least slow them down a bit. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 21:45, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

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Hi. Could you please read;

• policy on assuming good faith and why you shouldn't describe edits as vandalism, simply because you don't like them.
• guidelines on the use of icons as decoration and use of flags for no good reason.

Then, if you have any thoughts on my edits you can address them constructively and from an informed position. Thanks. --Escape Orbit ^(Talk) 23:42, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

I see that your use of flags has already been pointed out to you as being in violation of the manual of style. Perhaps you could explain why it doesn't apply in these cases? --Escape Orbit ^(Talk) 23:46, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

The problem with the flags is that they are distractive icons that shouldn't be used. Of course people will recognize the Flag of the US or Canada, but would you recognize or ? The flags are unneeded nationalisms that were forbidden from many infoboxes, and at the Infobox boxer or MMA event should apply as well. The "other article has it" argument is vague, it is in another article because somebody believe that it was correct as s/he saw it in another article. A common example is the "see release history" link that appears in many musical-related articles. WP:IBX states that these internal links shouldn't be used as the WP:TOC exists. The real thing to do is reach a consensus to remove all flags from infoboxes, as boxers aren't national teams or countries, where the flags are more relevant. Tbhotch.^™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 00:59, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

It is not that bad. but neither that OK. The real place where you should be discussing this is either WT:MOS or Template talk:Infobox boxer. Tbhotch.^™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 01:27, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

Edit warring adn attacks

You've been warned above again on personal attacks but you also need to refrain form edit warring: An editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Ukboxen edits are not exempt because they are not banned but blocked indefinitely and you still revert before accounts are blocked and tagged accordingly. I think I asked you to review WP:BLOCK, WP:BAN and WP:3rr in the past, in any case do so now.

The exceptions would be actions performed by banned users, their sockpuppets and by tagged sockpuppets of indefinitely blocked. This needs to be interpreted in your case narrowly as you feed the fire with your own attacks, underline repeatedly that you haven't been blocked yet and revert other users as well. Here you revert as with the exception of the flagicon...[4].

In other word, you should not claim exceptions from the three revert rule unless a third party has tagged that account, in which case they will often block and revert. If you continue to do multiple reverts yourself or leash out with attacks before reporting the issue to the relevant boards, you are part of the problem and next time you'll be blocked.

A lot of activity has been gone into keeping that guy off the pages and your back, and I understand that it is frustrating but the page histories for some boxers are now a disgrace, so yes, this is a final warning for you: Do not edit war, do not issue any other attack. Don't even call content edits by a blocked user vandalism. If you can't do that move them from your watch list. Thanks --Tikiwont (talk) 20:48, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

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Lennox Lewis

Greetings,

Please discuss the links you added at Talk:Lennox_Lewis#Overlinking.

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March 2012

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 24 hours for Edit warring with and personal attacks on good-faith editor after final warning as you did at Lennox Lewis. There was even an invitation to the talk page. I also note that you didn't react to above friendly post doing another edit afterwards. As you know, I'm aware of the harassment, but stuff like this must not happen. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you would like to be unblocked earlier, you may appeal this block by adding the text {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. Tikiwont (talk) 23:15, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Only warning

If you keep violating policy as you did with these changes to Joe Calzaghe it's next stop ANI for you. 2 lines of K₃₀₃ 13:49, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

The Klitschko's

Well, Vitali is gonna retire this year, so i only think he has one or two fights left. So I dont see the sense in making sections all the time. His career is ending soon, so i think it is right to make a final section, just like on Mike Tyson's & and Lennox Lewis' articles.

IF Wladimir wins the WBC, then I agree we have to make an new section called Unidsputed Heavyweight Champion. But his fights in 2012 are not going to be any significant. Fight against Mormeck, rematch vs. Tony Thompsons and then maybe Arreola?. Well I think it is best it just called After Haye. Because it really tells what happened after his fight with Haye.

Cheers David-golota David-golota (talk) 18:45, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

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Well yeah, but just because other P4p boxers have many more sections, dosent make the article look better, only worse.

Look at Mike Tyson article. He dosent have so many articles and is clearly the most infamous boxer ever.

I think it only makes the articles looks worse and ugly with so many sections.

Look at the Sosnowski and Johnso sections. They are so short. It looks stupid.

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Haye

David Haye fills alot. Very much. He brought the exciment and attention back to the heavyweight divison. Media hype and all the old great stuff back. He is Wladimirs rival. And Wladimir never really had an rival like Ali or Tyson had. That is why Haye is so "important".

Cheers mate

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Michael Katsidis

Could you please provide an edit summary when you've made changes? You've made a lot of minor edits to this article, but at no point have you explained what you've changed, or why. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 14:40, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

Capitalization

Hi. With regard to the Tyson article, I wanted to ask about this sentence:

"He was the first heavyweight boxer to simultaneously hold and only Heavyweight to individually unify the WBA, WBC and IBF titles."

Why do you have one use of the word "heavyweight" in lowercase and the other capitalized in the same sentence? For a casual reader like me, this just looks odd. -- James26 (talk) 00:39, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

Sure thing. Thanks. -- James26 (talk) 01:38, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

Andre Ward

Dear User:TheShadowCrow, please see the comments I have added on the Talk:Andre Ward page. I'm not targeting anyone's edits in particular, and certainly not yours. You are welcome to add sources to verify your assessments. But without references, it often happens that opinions and descriptive comments fall short of WP:BLP guidelines. In my view (and I'm only one person and I may be wrong) some of this page did that. Please let me quote from those guidelines:

If you really want to replace all that commenary, I assure you I won't delete it again. I've never been in an edit war, and I don't want one now. I just encourage the full referencing of articles. By the way, if you were referring to my edits, I can assure you that the lineal stuff is not mine. Regards.GorgeCustersSabre (talk) 15:37, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Hi again. The fact that I put "back" then lineal stuff that you hated so much does not mean that I agreed with it either. You and I are not the only editors on that page. Someone else clearly wanted to add that lineal section. As I said above, I don't intend to get into edit wars even with people who make pages worse or violate Wikipedia guidelines. Best wishes.GorgeCustersSabre (talk) 14:18, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

AA2

Please be aware of Requests for arbitration/Armenia-Azerbaijan 2 before making further reverts. Thanks. Grandmaster 18:37, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

The same is for you, Grandmaster. You're an active part of that editwarring. Gazifikator (talk) 19:02, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

The next time you chose to edit war (as you have been doing at Armenians in Azerbaijan), please kindly bother to use the talkpage to discuss the issue with other editors. Communicating through edit summaries is hardly efficient. If not, I'll have to start enforcing such discussion with revert paroles and blocks. Thank you. Moreschi (talk) 14:57, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Azerbaijanis in Armenia

The information about elderly and ill people of Azeri origin living in Armenia is not something I made up. It is contained in the report of the European Country of Origin Information Network, which reference is provided in the introduction of the article. Parishan (talk) 14:24, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

Dariusz Michalczewski‎

Another editor reverted your edits and made a personal attack against you. I have warned them not to do it again. --Jprg1966 ^(talk) 15:19, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

Juan Manuel Marquez

You are certainly welcomed to add in those statements if you have reliable sources to back them up. Please review WP:RS. Otherwise, it's just original research and POV. As a result, I have removed them. BearMan998 (talk) 17:40, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

I undid your edits once again since you failed to take note of the above. I see that you made those edits prior to the below ban so I'll assume this won't happen again. If this occurs again, I won't hesitate to report this as it's now clear that your actions are not in good faith and are in clear disregard to established policy. BearMan998 (talk) 02:19, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Persistent violations of WP:BLP and WP:NOTAFORUM

It appears you have had many warnings for inappropriate additions to biographies of living persons (BLP) articles. Please review the Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons policy in full, which includes the clear statement that adding unsourced or poorly sourced contentious material is forbidden. This addition was inappropriate for that reason and other reasons I gave here. You have however restored the content with an inappropriate and unhelpful edit summary. I am now removing it again - any re-adding of this content or other blatant BLP policy violations will result in the blocking of this account. Consider this your final warning.

Furthermore, it appears that you have been mass creating talk page threads which are not for discussion on improving the article in violation of WP:NOTAFORUM, such as this. If you review WP:NOT you will find that Wikipedia is not a venue for advocacy or testing free speech. Use of Wikipedia in this way is disruptive editing and any further (re-)creations of such threads will also result in a block. CT Cooper · talk 20:44, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

It seems pretty clear to me that you have ignored the warning I gave you about following WP:BLP policy when editing BLP articles, as two recent examples demonstrate well:

• Adding contentious with no attempt to source, and edit warring to retain it in the article, in itself grounds for a block. While you did eventually add a source, it was still a violation of BLP policy as poorly sourced content
• On Teimour Radjabov, you have altered content for the apparent purpose of character assassination. Using Wikipedia to advocate that someone is a "terrorist" or "racist" is unacceptable, potentially libellous, and violates both WP:BLP and WP:NOT. This case is aggravated by the fact you were previously warned for doing just this on Cenk Uygur, and I had to revdelete some of your comments, which should have given you the message.

Given the above edits, your earlier warnings, and the final warning above, I think it is fair to conclude that a block is needed here, therefore:

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 72 hours for persistent violations of the biographies of living persons policy. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding the text {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. CT Cooper · talk 18:29, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

I seriously considered using WP:BLPSE to restrict your ability to edit BLP articles, but I determined that a block was sufficient for now. This will be reviewed if there any further problems after the block expires. CT Cooper · talk 18:29, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

WP:AE

Hi. Please be aware of this report at WP:AE: [5]. Thanks. Grandmaster 19:08, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

AE

See this for the result of the AE thread. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 03:36, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

If you seriously can't see the problem with the now-deleted edit at Teimour Radjabov, or how it relates to AA, I feel further vindicated. And if you reread your ban, it's all articles and discussions relating to AA. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 21:54, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

If you want to appeal, there are instructions at the top of AE, so you can go that route if you like. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 00:40, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

It's in the big red header at the top, last paragraph. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 18:26, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

The template you need is {{Arbitration enforcement appeal}}. Sorry, I occasionally forget not everyone is as familiar with AE. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 18:46, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

You're supposed to copy it to the AE page, then replace the boilerplate text with yours. That should work. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 18:54, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

Arbitration enforcement action appeal by TheShadowCrow

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Appealing user

TheShadowCrow (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) – TheShadowCrow (talk) 02:41, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

Sanction being appealed

Topic ban from the subject of WP:ARBAA2 relations, imposed at

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Administrator imposing the sanction

TheShadowCrow (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA)

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Statement by TheShadowCrow

The guy who said this is my first real warning was right. Before, with the incident involving Cooper, the issue was repeaded editing. And what we were editing over had NOTHING TO DO WITH AA. This time it was about expressing opinion in edit summarys. No one ever really told me I shouldn't do that, they just linked a page to rules without explaining which one I was breaking. Six months is unfairly wrong and I'd like it to be much shorter or none at all, which would make sense because three days is plenty for a first offense.

The only problem I see was I voiced my opinion in the summary. Besides that, there was nothing wrong with my edit. It was actually an older edit, but after some time azeris began to put speculation (or more acctuaratly, denial) that the chess player said anything racist. They imply he was wrongly quoted but there's no proof to that anywhere. Grandmaster even told me in a previous debate that we have to go with the reference even if have have reason to believe it's wrong. So no, I don't see any problem.

This was the first offense I have had on a AA page and to ban me for six months over it is completely zealous.

Cenk Ugyar is a biased Turkish-American talk show host. He is neither Armenian nor Azeri and doesn't talk about AA issues on his corrupt show. So the only other reason I could be banned from AA is for violating BLP, but that seems pretty shallow seeing as how there was nothing wrong with my actual edit.

Me and Grandmaster have debated over AA issue before and we did so peacfully, so I have also shown I am capable of using the talk page and not resorting to edit wars on AA subjects.

I admit I was wrong to put opinion in the summary. But I feel that the three day ban I recieved for that was sufficent punishment. Banning me from AA articles doesn't solve anything. If I had vandalized several of their pages, that would be a sufficent point. But I never vandalized that actual page of Teimour Radjabov. So, just HOW can I be banned for six months from something I have never vandalized the actual page for?

Someone (He has no real name anymore because he has made many different accounts, but his IP is usually 178) in the boxing articles I edit is always swearing at Admins and cussing at fellow editors who disagree with him. He has been banned dozens (yes, dozens) of times for such acts, but never for more than a day or so. If you don't believe me, ask Materialscientist. He has carried out most of this user's bans. If a real vandal can swear at Admins, start seveal edit wars and put countless slurs in the history tab and only be banned or a few days, where is the justice in me being banned for six months over one history BLP violation, but no actual artical vandalation? --TheShadowCrow (talk) 02:41, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

Result of the appeal by TheShadowCrow

This section is to be edited only by uninvolved administrators. Comments by others will be moved to the sections above.

Further WP:BLP violations

In less than 24 hours after the block expired, and already I am finding issues with your edits to BLPs:

• You added some content to Victor Ortiz relating to drugs without properly citing it, as far as I can see drugs is not mentioned in the source provided and there is no source for the quote either. It should have occurred to you that anything relating to drugs is contentious, and a source must be provided, particular if you include a quote.
• On Gago Drago, you added content without making any attempt to source it, despite being required by WP:BLP/WP:V. Given that this was non-contentious and there was already a lot of unsourced information, which might make it look okay, I am letting this one go.

This is the only post-block warning that you are going to receive for violations of WP:BLP policy. I will say now now that any further edits like that observed on Victor Ortiz, then I will be utilising WP:BLPSE to disallow you from editing BLPs, either indefinitely or for a significant period of time. This may or may not extend to talk pages depending on the circumstances. I am coming to the conclusion given the above and your comments at User talk:The Blade of the Northern Lights that you simply don't "get it" in regards to BLP policy, and while this would be a broad ban, it would be justified.

On the AA ban you have received, I should point out that you have had more than one "offence" on these articles, with Cenk Uygur being an example. You claim it has not been clearly explained to you what rule you have broken on Teimour Radjabov. I actually gave you lengthy explanations on what you were doing wrong on that and other things, but I'm not going to spoon feed you policy - you should read the policies cited to you and from that understand what you are doing wrong. The main problem you seem to have is that you repeatedly add content and make contentious statements which is not supported by the sources, and is frequently just your own personal opinion - just reading the first few paragraph on the WP:BLP policy says not to do that, so I'm not buying that excuse and I doubt those who review any appeal will either. It is basic policy on this project that you source content (WP:V) and don't use articles to advocate your own views (WP:NOR/WP:NPOV), and these rules just become more important on BLPs. CT Cooper · talk 10:47, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

I have responded to your reply on my talk page. CT Cooper · talk 17:22, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Ezzard Charles

Here is a list of the improvements I made to this article, with my reason for making the change. Please explain your justification for blindly reverting the whole lot.

• Disambiguated George Russell to George Russell (composer)
• Changed Light Heavyweight to Light heavyweight to match the title of the article
• Changed Chicago, Illinois to Chicago to match the title of the article
• Changed Cincinnati, Ohio to Cincinnati to match the title of the article
• Removed link American in line with WP:OVERLINK
• Converted chained link Lawrenceville, Georgia to Lawrenceville, Georgia
• Converted link The Ring Magazine to The Ring magazine, in line with the title of the magazine and the corresponding article and with Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Titles
• Changed "85th street" to "85th Street" in line with normal capitalisation
• Unlinked "Lou Gehrig's Disease" as it simply redirects back to "amyotrophic lateral sclerosis"
• Unlinked "Cincinatti" which has been linked several times before
• Changed 'curly' quotes to 'straight' quotes in line with Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#Quotation_marks
• Changed "Boxing Magazine" to " Boxing magazine" to be consistent with the name of the magazine, and in line with Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Titles

Colonies Chris (talk) 18:26, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

I see you have reverted my changes for a third time, and without explanation. Unless you enter into a proper discussion, I shall start action against you at WP:AN3 for edit warring. Colonies Chris (talk) 18:05, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for your response on my talk page and your reinstatement of most of the changes. A few comments however:

• The link to 'American' probably does violate WP:OVERLINK ("do not link to ... major geographic features and locations"), but in any case it's a valueless link. There's probably not a single reader on the planet who will be in any doubt that 'American' in this context means 'citizen of the United States'; no-one will ever use that link.
• I don't see the point of even mentioning that Chicago is in Illinois, still less linking to the state. If any reader is interested in finding out more about the city where he died, the Chicago link is the one they'll use. The state where Chicago is located has no relevance to Ezzard Charles. Colonies Chris (talk) 10:40, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

July 2012

Please stop adding unreferenced or poorly referenced biographical content, especially if controversial, to articles or any other Wikipedia page, as you did at Manny Pacquiao. Content of this nature could be regarded as defamatory and is in violation of Wikipedia policy. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Do you know what the word "influenced" means? NeilN ^{talk to me} 17:00, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for changing the wording. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 17:06, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

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Sonny Liston

Please do not remove code that increases the readability of the table in the Professional boxing record section of the article as you did in this edit. Preventing the text from wrapping for both the opponent and match location makes the table much easier to view. 165.125.144.133 (talk) 12:29, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Archiving set-up

Hello,

I'm now back from holiday and so have been able to set-up archiving for you. I have moved everything old to User talk:TheShadowCrow/Archive 1 and added the {{talk header}} to your talk page to provide a simple link to the archives. I have also set-up an archive bot by adding the appropriate template and settings to the top of this talk page. This bot will archive old material on your talk page once it has been inactive for fourteen days, but will only archive a minimum of two threads at a time and will always leave at least five threads on this talk page. Everything currently goes to Archive 1, but once this archive reaches 200K it will create a new archive automatically. These are settings that I have made-up so feel free to tinker with them - see User:MiszaBot/config for advanced archive bot settings. Alternatively, you can remove the template completely and archive everything yourself. See WP:ARCHIVE for further help. If you don't like {{talk header}}, there are alternatives such as {{Archive box}} which I use. CT Cooper · talk 17:56, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

WP:MMA

Hello,

i noticed you edited a Mixed Martial Arts page in August, but you haven't listed yourself as a Participant on the Wikiproject for Mixed Martial Arts pages. I've decided to try to drum up interest to get more people involved!

Kevlar (talk) 01:28, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

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Shaginyan

Hey, Grant Shaginyan's name in Armenian is Հրանտ Շահինյան, which is spelled as Hrant Shahinyan, but because there is no H in Russian, its replaced by a G.--Երևանցի _{ասելիք կա՞} 20:16, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

Weightlifting

I don't think weightlifting (as it is today) even existed before the 20th century, because it requires special technology to create its equipment. And if you look at the List of Armenian Olympic medalists, our first Olympic medalist in weightlifting was in 1952, the year Soviet Union entered the Olympics, so it's hard to tell when exactly it came to Armenia, but I guess it was after WWII.

And yes, wrestling and boxing are traditional, two Armenian kings have won the Ancient Olympics in those sports. --Երևանցի _{ասելիք կա՞} 18:59, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

Sure. So for history we'll have "Soviet era" and "Post-independence" sections. And true, I forgot that he's from Georgia. Thanks for correcting. --Երևանցի _{ասելիք կա՞} 19:13, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

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Parisyan

If you want to remove the FOTN. However, please stop readding that "notable wins" list. We should not have these in wikipedia. Paralympiakos (talk) 19:33, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Wrestling styles

Do you think that it's a good idea to separate the Greco-Roman and Freestyle medalists of the European championship, so the list will be split into half and it will be easier to navigate? --Երևանցի _{ասելիք կա՞} 20:49, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I was only talking about the European Championship. --Երևանցի _{ասելիք կա՞} 00:39, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

I'm done with the references, except the Euro championships of 2011 and 2012, as you told me before.

Also, do you think it will be alright to remove Women's European Championship and the World Cup sections, sice they don't really mean anything?--Երևանցի _{ասելիք կա՞} 00:08, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

Your arguments seem to be reasonable, so we'll keep them. And that would be great, if Armenia hosts an international boxing tournament.

Also, if you find anything, like links or texts, worthy about Armenian boxing please just copy-paste them to User:Yerevanci/Boxing in Armenia, so I can use it later to write the article.

I'm almost done with the wrestling article, a little section of history isn't translated yet and the references of 2011-12 are missing. I'll try to search it with hope I can find the official results of those tournaments. And that's pretty much it.--Երևանցի _{ասելիք կա՞} 01:22, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

Nice. And I just found the 2012 Euro Championship results. Still can't find 2011's though. --Երևանցի _{ասելիք կա՞} 01:38, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

I'm done with the article. Please take a look at it and make any unnecessary changes.--Երևանցի _{ասելիք կա՞} 02:31, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

Carlos Monzon

Thanks for the catch, you are very much correct. I have updated the progression box :) (MaxPayne888 (talk) 00:46, 10 October 2012 (UTC))

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Boxing

To be honest, I don't know much about boxing. All I know is that there are few associations in professional level and they all have different champions. You may know better. If you can, just add it yourself, because as I said I don't what specific criteria exist in boxing. --Երևանցի _{ասելիք կա՞} 00:53, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

Question for administrator

{{admin help}} How do you create categories? --TheShadowCrow (talk) 16:29, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

See:

• Help:Categories (very basic)
• Help:Category (much more detail)
• WP:Categorization

For the question just above, Wikipedia:HotCat may be what you are looking for, but I have no experience of it myself. JohnCD (talk) 16:53, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

Carl Lewis

I undid your edit in the Carl Lewis article again. You brought up that Emmiyan should be referred by his ethnic group however, athletes in this article are referred to by the nation they represented, not by their ethnic groups. Notice Ben Johnson is referred to as a Canadian and not as a Black Canadian or African Canadian or Jamaican Canadian. Additionally, regarding the sentence you have edited, the sentence is in context of the nation that he represented during the race, not what he would represent in the future. There should be no special treatment regarding this one particular athlete. This information is in Emmiyan's Wikipedia article anyway so there is no need to add to the Carl Lewis article which would damage the above uniformity I mentioned. As a result, I undid your edit again. BearMan998 (talk) 00:14, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Please stop adding the term Soviet Armenian for Emmiyan for this particular 1986 event. The above still applies and again, Emmiyan was representing the Soviet Union at the time, not Armenia. Even the referenced source states the Soviet Union. It doesn't say Soviet Armenian or Armenian Soviet. BearMan998 (talk) 19:18, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

Once again, Emmiyan did not compete for Armenia in 1986. Again, he competed for the Soviet Union. Again, do not add this to the Carl Lewis article. This is your last warning over this disruptive editing. BearMan998 (talk) 01:16, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

An 8.86 m jump is not even referring to this event where he jumped for 8.61 m. BearMan998 (talk) 02:12, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

Again the source in the article lists Soviet Union and multiple sources list the Soviet Union. It wasn't until after this 1986 event that he competed for Armenia. And the sentence you keep inserting this into refers only to a 1986 event where he only competed for the Soviet Union. BearMan998 (talk) 03:15, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

State flags

Please stop inserting state flags where they are not directly relevant as you have done several times on the Zab Judah article. It is against MOS:FLAG#Do not use subnational flags without direct relevance.--Jahalive (talk) 19:28, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

Please discuss this issue. Repeatedly reverting rather than trying to resolve the disagreement by discussion is edit warring. This is prohibited by Wikipedia.--Jahalive (talk) 21:33, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

If you continue edit warring rather than discussing this issue you risk being blocked or even banned. Responding that "There's nothing to discuss." is not trying to resolve the issue. Please work toward a consensus.--Jahalive (talk) 22:11, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing the flags.--Jahalive (talk) 22:17, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

Re: Questions and ideas

I don't really know that much about categories, because I never had experience with them But I know that there's some program that can add categories to dozens of pages in few seconds, but I don't know what it's called.

I strongly support that idea, but I don't know how how we can put that information there. It would like ugly if we put it on two lines, like this:

Armenian SSR

Soviet Union

Another thing we can do is somehow point out the ones that are from the Arm SSR.

Also, it is really interesting for us, but I don't think this will be appropriate for wiki. I'm not really sure. --Երևանցի _{ասելիք կա՞} 01:04, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

The category looks good.

I have an Armenian book which lists all the ethnic Armenian medalists of the Soviet period and indicated the city/republic they came from. So it won't take much of a time from me. I'll try few ways of pointing out the ones from Arm SSR and chose the best one and I'll let you know before applying it.

Probably yes, you shold add the Soviet representatives as well, because anything before Atlanta 96 is considered other country.--Երևանցի _{ասելիք կա՞} 00:13, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

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October 2012

Your recent editing history at Carl Lewis shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.

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Re: Congrats!

Thanks. And I'm really surprised. Hope more media will mention it. --Երևանցի _{ասելիք կա՞} 19:46, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

To be clear on this, Novikov IS considered Armenian by most sources. In fact, Armenian Olympic Committee lists him as an Armenian olympic champion http://armnoc.am/olympic-champions-of-armenia.html

I don't think that Taimazov or Damian are Armenian, but Tavakolian and Kotzian do sound Armenian. --Երևանցի _{ասելիք կա՞} 23:55, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Robert Avanesyan

Hello TheShadowCrow,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Robert Avanesyan for deletion, because the article doesn't clearly say why the subject is important enough to be included in an encyclopedia.

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Thanks, Thisside2 (talk) 01:57, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

The usual criterion for inclusion in Wikipedia is explained here. Very basically, we only summarise information that's already published in reliable sources that're independent of the subject. We do this to ensure both that our information is verifiable, and that it can be written neutrally. If you have any questions, please ask. Cheers, WilyD 08:05, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

It's now at User:TheShadowCrow/Robert Avanesyan - move it to the mainspace when it's ready (any earlier, and someone or another will A7 it again). WilyD 16:07, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

You should be able to move it yourself, no? WilyD 06:18, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

Olympians of Armenian descent

Hi. I've removed the text & categories you've added to articles such as Hratch Zadourian, Sirop Arslanian and Michael Gostigian. The categories need to be supported in the body of the article and backed up with reliable sources to indicate that they are of the ethnic descent you've added. Please also see this for more info. Thanks. Lugnuts ^{Dick Laurent is dead} 07:46, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

Nomination of Robert Avanesyan for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Robert Avanesyan is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Robert Avanesyan until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. Holyfield1998 (talk) 13:15, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

TheShadowCrow - while I didn't agree with you 100% on the Carl Lewis/Emmiyan issue, do support this article being allowed to exist. If you want to avoid having this article deleted, please ensure you post "KEEP" with a brief explanation, citing the appropriate policy as to why this article should not be deleted. WP:ATHLETE is the most likely best guideline to quote. In the meantime you should expand the article using reliable sources. I've added a few competition placings in the meantime, but this may not be enough to show there are reliable third party published articles about him - I'll leave it to you to find those. --Yankees76 ^Talk 19:35, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

Arsen Galstyan

Please provide in the body of the article the evidence that he is an Armenian citizen, otherwise the category will be removed. You probably know that the Russian law requires that everybody who naturalizes into Russian citizenship has to renounce all previous citizenships. The place of birth is irrelevant. The fact that Galstyan is ethnic Armenian is prominently featured in the article (in fact, before my edits it was difficult to figure out that he is competing for Russia and not for Armenia), and this is in my view more than enough. Thank you.--Ymblanter (talk) 05:40, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

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October 2012

You have been blocked from editing for a period of one month for violating your topic ban of all Armenia/Azerbaijan-related pages by editing the Mount Ararat article where there was no obvious vandalism. Add to that edit-warring and incivility towards other users (accusation of racism). You may request an {{unblock}} by putting that template on your talk page including a convincing reason why your actions do not warrant a block.. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding below this notice the text {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. De728631 (talk) 23:27, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

TheShadowCrow (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Request reason:

1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:NPA#What_is_considered_to_be_a_personal_attack.3F

Which of thse did I do? I don't see any that I said.

2. Calling someone a vandal isn't insulting if they are vandalizing. And that's what E4024 did by removing information supported in the article. In fact, you didn't take the reference to Armenian culture off, so you must agree with me that it shouldn't have been removed.

3. I thought carefully about if I should undo his edit or not and I decided it would be ok because this is neither a BLP nor a political topic

4. I did not see how this fits in with AA subjects. You're wording on the ROA page implies editing on the page to remove vandalism is justified anyway.

5. He IS a racist http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Armenian_Secret_Army_for_the_Liberation_of_Armenia&diff=517061666&oldid=517061053

6. So, to summarize:

You said it's ok to edit AA pages to revert vandalism. (Note: Not that I was ever told geographical land thats not in Armenia or Azerbaijan falls under Armenian and Azeri topics.)

You recognize E4's edit as removal of content.

The very first sentence on the Vandalism page mentions removal of content falling under vandalism.

I did not personally attack him in any way.

His edit implies irredentism is a part of Armenian culture, which can be considered a racist statement.

So why am I banned? TheShadowCrow (talk) 00:16, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

Decline reason:

Please familiarize yourself with what is vandalism and what is not. Content disputes are not vandalism. Your topic ban only allows uncontroversial reverting of simple, obvious vandalism. The rule of the thumb here is that if someone other than the person being reverted disagrees with it being called vandalism, it's not a vandalism. Max Semenik (talk) 00:44, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

This was not an edit dispute, he purposely tried to censor the culture importance of the topic and imply that it's signifigance comes from attemptive political gain, which is actually mentioned in Anti-Armenianism. No controversy, he purposely harmed the article. By intentionally removing info, he committed vandalism, and by committing Anti-Armenianism, he committed racism. --TheShadowCrow (talk) 00:59, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

Is no one else going to respond? I have made it perfectly clear why I shouldn't be banned.

The link De7286 claims I violated says it is for BLP, which this is not. It also says it involves Armenian and Azeri issues, which the article in question doesn't involve. He has also claimed it was not clear vandalism. Yet he also removed it!

Is there any Admin out there reading this that can prove me wrong? --TheShadowCrow (talk) 15:08, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

If no one can answer me, then I shouldn't be banned. --TheShadowCrow (talk) 18:56, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

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Just a side note: you've already been warned here that not everything you disagree with is vandalism, which makes today's violation even more aggravated. Max Semenik (talk) 00:52, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

See above response --TheShadowCrow (talk) 01:16, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

I'm not going to continue discussion (nor I feel that it's needed) - as a last suggestion I can recommend you to look at your behaviour from WP:IDHT standpoint. Max Semenik (talk) 19:56, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

If my point won't be accepted by the community, than I expect an explaination why. I was in fact reverting vandalism. That's why De728631 also reverted it. E4 was removing content, which is considered vandalism. Vandalism is not the same thing as content dispute. If you can prove me wrong, I will stop. But if you can't, the reason is because I'm right, and you should accept it. --TheShadowCrow (talk) 21:21, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

AND NOBODY HAS EVEN TOLD ME WHICH PERSONAL ATTACK I DID http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:NPA#What_is_considered_to_be_a_personal_attack.3F --TheShadowCrow (talk) 23:02, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

The personal attack you made was accusing E4024 of racism in this edit summary. Such baseless rants are not acceptable. And in case you missed it, I reverted your edit, not E4024's. Apart from that I agree with Max Semenik that a further discussion of this topic is unneeded. De728631 (talk) 09:07, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

I meant what Wikipedia considers a personal attack (see link), not what De728631 considers a personal attack.

But you didn't keep E4's "significant role in Armenian irredentism" line, which is what I said is vandalism. The article currently says "significant role in Armenian culture and irredentism" which is what it said and what I restored it to. If I did something wrong on that page, why does my edit remain? --TheShadowCrow (talk) 13:10, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

I just noticed you reverted E4's edits on the Ararat article because he was doing more or less the same thing he did to the Mount Ararat article (removing Armenian historical and cultural importance). In other words, you banned me for something you also did. --TheShadowCrow (talk) 22:27, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

WP:ARBAA2 sanctions made indefinite

Under the authority of Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Discretionary sanctions, TheShadowCrow (talk · contribs) is banned from all articles, talk pages, and discussions covered under WP:ARBAA2 (meaning Armenia-Azerbaijan and related ethnic conflicts) for an indefinite period, broadly construed. Violation of these restrictions will result in escalating blocks which may reach up to 1 year in length.

Given your recent block and other general indications that you will continue problematic conduct after the current sanctions expire in December, I'm extending them to indefinite. "Indefinite" does not mean permanent, they may eventually be lifted by community consensus or via appeal to the Arbitration Committee, although that will only happen once it is clear that you can trusted to edit in this area appropriately, and personally I think it is for your own good as well as the projects that you stay away from this topic area. CT Cooper · talk 11:35, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

I disagree with your decision. Judging from the debate above, it seems I was banned on the grouds of "Just 'cause" instead of AA. --TheShadowCrow (talk) 13:18, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

I wasn't expecting you to agree, but for one thing, some of the underlying conduct issues seem to remain, one being the persistent need to be spoon fed policy. It seems most appropriate that you get the house in order outside AA issues before these restrictions are lifted. CT Cooper · talk 13:55, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

That's because the policy is incredibly loose. I mean, if the article had the Armenia–Azerbaijan relations category or something like that, it would be different. Can you honestly add that category to the Mount Ararat article? If not, than maybe it shouldn't count. Regardless, I edited that page to remove vandalism, which doesn't violate any rules.

I'm also a bit suprised and disapointed you haven't had anything to say about the discussion above. De is saying I made a personal attack but he can't identify which one (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:NPA#What_is_considered_to_be_a_personal_attack.3F) it was. Can an Admin ban someone if they can't defend their reason or doing so? This is pure corruption. --TheShadowCrow (talk) 22:15, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

Also Ararat isn't an "ethnic conflict" --TheShadowCrow (talk) 22:19, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

Are you are trying to argue to me that calling someone a racist and a vandal is not a personal attack? Such an attack isn't even borderline, and there is no chance of the community or ArbCom having a different view. Under WP:NPA#WHATIS accusations about personal behaviour that lack evidence is a personal attack, not to mention making comments on racial lines. It is also apparent that you haven't read the section being cited since it clearly says "These examples are not exhaustive. Insulting or disparaging an editor is a personal attack regardless of the manner in which it is done. When in doubt, comment on the article's content without referring to its contributor at all."

Vandalism is defined as a deliberate attempt to damage Wikipedia, and is very narrowly defined - WP:VAND#NOT. Any edit made in good faith is not vandalism, even if violates other policies such as WP:NPOV. Calling someone a vandal is offensive and so the word should not be used lightly, and it is long-standing precedent that false use of the term vandal is a person attack and grounds for a block if persistent. The general rule is that if you accuse a long-standing editor of vandalism, you are doing something wrong.

One of the reasons you were topic banned from this area was persistent poor judgement and a general inability to engage constructively with other editors, and this is yet another example of that. As for the scope of the topic ban, you know we have had this conversation. You are banned from Armenia-Azerbaijan articles and discussions, broadly construed. This means any content with any remote link to Armenia-Azerbaijan disputes is off limits to you, and that extends to Mount Ararat given the history. The content you were editing was about Armenian nationalism which is clearly covered. The idea of a topic ban is that you go and find something completely different to edit - skimming around the edges is frowned upon and you will therefore get very little sympathy if you overstep the line, even accidentally. Editing articles of people which happen to be Armenian or Azerbaijani is tolerable if there is no ethnic/nationalistic related content, which covers a lot of sports' BLPs, but anything beyond that is not. CT Cooper · talk 09:55, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

See, here's the thing though: I never called him a vandal or a racist. Why do none of the Admins realize that?

Vandalism: He was clearly no doubt vandalizing the page. De himself removed the part of E4's edit I originally removed after E4 restored it. He was removing content from the article. This is vandalism. If you expect me to not cut corners on AA articles, I expect you to not cut corners on a user's obvious intentions.

Racism: Let's look at what E4's vandal edit and what the page originally said:

It also plays a significant role in Armenian irredentism.

It also plays a significant role in Armenian culture and irredentism.

I'll translate this for you: "Armenians have no culture and only exist to lobby." So, to say Armenians have no cultural importantance to the mountain and their only relation to it is to politically gain land, is considered Anti-Armenianism and is even mentioned in the article's header.

So, to top it off, I never called him a name, even though his edit contained both vandalism and racism. Therefore, I haven't made a personal attack and my reasons for editing the Mount Ararat article are justified because I was removing vandalism.

As for engaging constructively with other users, you should look into the work I have been doing with User:Yerevanci.--TheShadowCrow (talk) 00:05, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

Firstly, can you please indent your posts correctly so I don't have to keep doing it for you - see WP:INDENT.

As for the vandalism and racism issue, what you are arguing above is a textbook example of wikilawyering, in particular "Misinterpreting policy or relying on technicalities to justify inappropriate actions." A vandal is someone who commits vandalism, so if you call someone's edit vandalism, you are accusing them of being a vandal; similarly if you are accusing someone of making racist edits, you are accusing them of being racist. Whatever technicality you try and levy, you made a serious unjustified personal attack against someone, which will not be tolerated here.

On the definition of vandalism, even if the edits were vandalism, you were still in violation of your editing restrictions. Only obvious vandalism is exempt - which would mean people making edits which are obviously inappropriate such as blanking the page, of which a competent person would need no knowledge of the topic to see. Given that you find the need to dive into the topic area to explain that the edits were vandalism, that is effectively an admission it wasn't obvious vandalism.

In any case, the edits weren't vandalism at all. I have already linked WP:VANDNOT to you and it is obvious that you haven't read it. The reason you are banned from AA articles is that your judgement is compromised in this topic area, and this extends to making inappropriate assumptions about other actions in violation of WP:AGF - the reason why "obvious" is put in front of the vandalism exemption. Disruptive editing, violating WP:NPOV, adding incorrect information, removing content are only vandalism in certain contexts, which this case does not meet, so even if all of that was true with these edits, that does not make them vandalism.

At the end of the day, we are heading towards a WP:IDIDNTHEARTHAT situation here, and I will only attempt explain something to you so many times over. However, I will make clear now that if there is another incident of you wrongly calling an editor a vandal or racist, you will blocked for significantly longer than one month. CT Cooper · talk 14:14, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

Now that is pure hypocrisy. First you say I was streching the rules by editing an AA page with little to do with AA relations, and now you're bending the rules to say I called someone an offensive name without actually calling them a name.

Calling someone's edit vandalism is not the same as calling them a vandal. This is not a personal attack and cannot be considered insulting.

That's like saying every time you undo a poor edit and say so in the summary, you're calling the person an idiot.

In fact, calling an edit vandalism as opposed to the user a vandal can be considered the positive version for not refering to the editor directly. It's like offering ideas of improvment as opposed to just criticising.

"Misinterpreting policy or relying on technicalities to justify inappropriate actions." Ironicly, you seem to be wikilawyering by claiming I made a personal attack without saying anything about a person.

"Obvious vandalism" is your opinion. What we know is that he intended to cause the page harm and another Admin reverted his edit after he restored it. Seems like pretty "obvious" vandalism to me. If an Admin has to revert it, than it clearly wasn't constructive.

I've read the page and I don't see what makes you think I didn't. Removing content is disruptive to Wikipedia, as we already went over. That's what E4 did. If his edit wasn't counter constructive, why did De728631 undo it himself? --TheShadowCrow (talk) 22:36, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

I think that will do - you clearly just don't get it and I'm not repeating myself again. Since you have demonstrated that you cannot correctly identify vandalism, I am modifying the restrictions to explicitly state that vandalism is not a valid exemption. I have put in a place a very narrow exemption to even this, in which you can report obvious vandalism to an active administrator. CT Cooper · talk 10:39, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

I'm as tired of this as you are. But this is different than the sock time, when I clearly did something wrong. I wouldn't still be doing this if I didn't truely believe I shouldn't have been banned.

I hope you don't think that modification impacts this past issue.

You say you're tired of repeating yourself? Fine. Then answer I question I have asked several times but you haven't answered once. How much more "obvious" can vandalism be when an Admin has to undo it?

I reverted the part where E4 removed information connecting Ararat to Armenian culture and notice that De728631 had not restored it. Think about it. I was the one who got banned, yet E4 is the one who's edit was reverted. Why? Because the wrong person was banned. --TheShadowCrow (talk) 01:35, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

Uninvolved editor chiming in here just point out something. Are you forgeting about this edit that occured between the two diffs you have linked above? Look at the revision history again. You made a total of three edits. The first two were reverted by E4024. Your last edit was reverted by De728631. So none of your changes remain in the current version. The only action by the admin was to revert your latest edit. Therefore your question How much more "obvious" can vandalism be when an Admin has to undo it? hasn't been directly answered because it does not appear to make any sense or is based on a misunderstanding on your part as to what had happened. Hope this clarifies things. --RacerX¹¹ Talk to me^{Stalk me} 05:09, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

Ah ok, I see what happened. User:Dr. K made this edit which restored the changes you had made in your first two edits. So your changes do in fact remain in the current article via Dr. K's action! So that explains your question. I'm not sure if De728631 realized this when De left the page after reverting your latest edit. --RacerX¹¹ Talk to me^{Stalk me} 05:46, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

So what we know is that I have third party support and De728631 didn't restore the vandalism part of E4's edit. --TheShadowCrow (talk) 14:37, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

I'm sticking to my guns here I'm afraid. I've looked through the edits and yes some lasting changes remain. I'm afraid this does not really work in TheShadowCrow's favour as the idea of the vandalism exemption is someone makes a vandalism edit, it's reverted, and the article is the same as it was before. Anything which goes beyond reverting is not covered by the exemption, so this demonstrates that he violated the editing restrictions irrespective of whether the changes by E4024 (talk · contribs) were vandalism or not. Whether intentional or not, this vandalism exemption was being used as a loophole to influence the content of restricted articles, and so it was right that it has been closed.

In any case, whether and how E4024's edits exist in the current version of the article is irrelevant because as I have tried to explain, just because an edit is reverted, was non-neutral, or otherwise disruptive does not make it vandalism as WP:VAND and WP:VANDNOT, which are both part of a policy, makes very clear. In fact, to make it even clearer I will block quote the relevant sections so there is no need to find it:

“ Vandalism is any addition, removal, or change of content in a deliberate attempt to compromise the integrity of Wikipedia. Examples of typical vandalism are adding irrelevant obscenities and crude humor to a page, illegitimately blanking pages, and inserting obvious nonsense into a page. ”

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“ Even if misguided, willfully against consensus, or disruptive, any good-faith effort to improve the encyclopedia is not vandalism. Edit warring over content is not vandalism. Careful consideration may be required to differentiate between edits that are beneficial, detrimental but well-intentioned, and vandalizing. Mislabelling good-faith edits as vandalism can be considered harmful. ”

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“ Bold edits, though they may precede consensus or be inconsistent with prior consensus, are not vandalism unless other aspects of the edits identify them as vandalism. The Wikipedia community encourages users to be bold, and acknowledges the role of bold edits in reaching consensus. ”

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“ Some users cannot come to agreement with others who are willing to talk to them about an editing issue, and repeatedly make changes against consensus. Edit warring is not vandalism and should not be dealt with as such. ”

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“ A user who, in good faith, adds content to an article that is factually inaccurate but in the belief that it is accurate is trying to contribute to and improve Wikipedia, not vandalize it. If you believe inaccurate information has been added to an article in good faith, remove it once you are certain it is inaccurate, or discuss its factuality with the user who has added it. ”

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“ The neutral point of view policy is difficult for many of us to understand. Even Wikipedia veterans occasionally introduce material which is not ideal from an NPOV perspective. Indeed, we are all affected by our beliefs to a greater or lesser extent. Though the material added may be inappropriate, it is not vandalism in itself. ”

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“ While intentionally adding nonsense to a page is a form of vandalism, sometimes honest editors may not have expressed themselves correctly (e.g., there may be an error in the syntax, particularly for Wikipedians who use English as a second language). Also, connection errors or edit conflicts can unintentionally produce the appearance of nonsense or malicious edits. In either case, assume good faith. ”

The reason I haven't answered the "How much more "obvious" can vandalism be when an Admin has to undo it?" is because its based on a false premise that "having your edits reverted = vandalism". If that was true, pretty much everyone on this project, including me, would be a vandal as having your good faith edits reverted is hardly unheard of - read WP:BRD.

The suggestion that calling someone's actions vandalism is not in any way calling them a vandal is a non-starter, quite frankly. If it isn't a joke it certainly shows a lack of understanding and respect to the reason, i.e. the spirit, of the WP:NPA and WP:CIVIL policies. I've been here long enough to know who goes to WP:ANI and tries to justify there actions in that way will, at best, not be taken seriously. Part of the problem here is that TheShadowCrow does not appear to appreciate what the word vandalism means, with this comment demonstrating that well in my opinion:

“ In fact, calling an edit vandalism as opposed to the user a vandal can be considered the positive version for not refering to the editor directly. It's like offering ideas of improvment as opposed to just criticising. ”

The idea that calling someone's edit vandalism is "positive" is blatantly not true - it a highly loaded term and will always be seen by an informed receiving editor as offensive - that's because, by calling someone's edit vandalism one is saying that that edit was made maliciously and was a deliberate attempt to damage Wikipedia because that is what vandalism is. Calling someone's edit vandalism is a statement of someone's intentions i.e. that they were editing in bad faith, and therefore TheShadowCrow's technical distinction between calling an editor a vandal and calling an editor vandalism does not exist in reality.

While I sympathize with the "wrong person was banned" point, at the end of day TheShadowCrow is banned from editing AA articles - while E4024 (talk · contribs) is not. TheShadowCrow was wrong to intervene in that dispute while the ban was still in place, and should have left another user or admin handle it. His decision to engage in an edit war and the poor choice of edit summaries show a serious lack of judgement or respect/understanding for the policies of this project. I and others see this incident as a taster of what will happen if he is let loose on AA articles again, which is why the restrictions have been made indefinite, for TheShadowCrow's good as well as the project.

As is probably already clear, I will not support lifting the block or the restrictions. However, TheShadowCrow may make an appeal Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Ban Appeals Subcommittee. Please read the entire page before lodging an appeal via e-mail. CT Cooper · talk 18:02, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

That's all I needed to hear than. Regardless of whether I was wrongly banned or not, if the Admin is simply dead set against lifting the ban, there is no point in going on anymore. I do want to thank you for being the only Admin to give my appeal a real audience.

And can you do one last thing for me? Me and Yankees76 believe we both found someone guilty of socking. I was planning on reporting this shortly before I got banned. I was hoping you or someone else could look into it. --TheShadowCrow (talk) 21:16, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

I cannot unilaterally lift the block or restrictions once implemented anyway, although I will never say never on supporting a lifting of the restrictions when the time is right. I'm looking into this sock-puppetry case, as at first glance the claims do appear to have credibility, but it isn't blatant enough for me to go in and block immediately. I have asked another admin who has dealt with the sock-puppeteer previously for a second opinion. CT Cooper · talk 12:46, 3 November 2012 (UTC)

I'm not as certain User38563 is BearMan and Holyfield as much as Yankees is, but I do think Holyfield and BearMan are the same person. Tell Tikiwonk that Bearman and Holyfield are the prime suspects because you put a lot of empathsis on User38563. --TheShadowCrow (talk) 17:27, 3 November 2012 (UTC)

Ara Vardanyan, Sergo Chakhoyan, Israel Militosyan, Aleksander Karapetyan, Anna Chicherova

Arsen Tamrazian; Russia

http://www.ewfed.com/comp_cat.php?id=10

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TheShadowCrow/Archive 1

Medal record
Men's Weightlifting
Representing Armenia
European Championships
	2001 Trenčín	-94 kg

Hakob Pilosyan (born July 7, 1973 in Gyumri, Armenia) is an Armenian weightlifter.

Pilosyan qualified to compete at the 2000 Summer Olympics, but didn't due to illness.

External links

• Hakob Pilosyan at Lift Up

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TheShadowCrow/Archive 1

Medal record
Men's Weightlifting
Representing Armenia
Youth Olympic Games
	2010 Singapore	-56 kg
European Championships
	2010 Minsk	-56 kg

Smbat Margaryan (born March 17, 1993 in Yerevan, Armenia) is an Armenian weightlifter.

Margaryan won a bronze medal at the 2010 Summer Youth Olympics.

External links

• Smbat Margaryan at Lift Up

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TheShadowCrow/Archive 1

Medal record
Men's Weightlifting
Representing Armenia
European Championships
	2010 Minsk	-85 kg
	2011 Kazan	-85 kg

Gevorik Poghosyan (born March 13, 1984 in Yerevan, Armenia) is an Armenian weightlifter. He won a gold medal at the 2010 European Weightlifting Championships.

External links

• Gevorik Poghosyan at Lift Up

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TheShadowCrow/Archive 1

Medal record
Men's Weightlifting
Representing Armenia
European Championships
	2011 Kazan	-77 kg

Arayik Mirzoyan (born July 29, 1987 in Baghramian, Armenia) is an Armenian weightlifter. He won a silver medal at the 2011 European Weightlifting Championships. Both Mirzoyan and the gold medalist totaled 347 kg, but Mirzoyan took silver due to personal weight difference.

External links

• Arayik Mirzoyan at Lift Up

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TheShadowCrow/Archive 1

Medal record
Men's Greco-Roman Wrestling
Representing Armenia
World Championships
	1993 Stockholm	57 kg
European Championships
	1994 Athens	62 kg
	1995 Besançon	57 kg

Aghasi Manukyan (Armenian: Աղասի Մանուկյան, born February 27, 1967 in Gyumri, Armenia) is a retired Armenian Greco Roman wrestler.

Manukyan won a gold medal at the 1993 World Wrestling Championships. Manukyan is the first ever wrestler from the independent Republic of Armenia to become a Wrestling World Champion in either Greco-Roman or freestlye wrestling. He also competed at the 1996 Summer Olympics.

After retiring from wrestling, Manukyan coached the national junior team of Armenia.

References

{{Persondata <!-- Metadata: see [[Wikipedia:Persondata]]. --> | NAME = Manukyan, Aghasi | ALTERNATIVE NAMES = | SHORT DESCRIPTION = Olympic wrestler | DATE OF BIRTH = February 27, 1967 | PLACE OF BIRTH = Gyumri, Armenia | DATE OF DEATH = | PLACE OF DEATH = }} {{DEFAULTSORT:Manukyan, Aghasi}} [[Category:1967 births [[Category:Living people [[Category:People from Gyumri [[Category:Armenian wrestlers [[Category:Armenian sport wrestlers [[Category:Wrestlers at the 1996 Summer Olympics [[Category:Olympic wrestlers of Armenia

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Medal record
Men's Freestyle Wrestling
Representing Armenia
World Championships
	1995 Atlanta	68 kg
	1997 Krasnoyarsk	69 kg
	1998 Tehran	69 kg
European Championships
	1993 Istanbul	68 kg
	1994 Rome	68 kg
	1995 Fribourg	68 kg
	1996 Budapest	68 kg
	1997 Warsaw	69 kg
	1998 Bratislava	76 kg

Arayik Gevorgyan (Armenian: Արայիկ Գեւորգյան, born January 22, 1973 in Artashat, Armenia) is a retired Armenian Freestyle wrestler.

Gevorgyan is a three-time consecutive World Wrestling Champion, having won a gold medal at the 1995 World Wrestling Championships, 1997 World Wrestling Championships and 1998 World Wrestling Championships. Gevorgyan is the first ever wrestler from the independent Republic of Armenia to become a Wrestling World Champion in freestlye wrestling. He also competed at the 1996 Summer Olympics. He is also the first European Championship medalist in either Greco-Roman or freestlye wrestling and only the third European Championship gold medalist in freestyle wrestling from the independent Republic of Armenia.

Gevorgyan is also a three time Olympian who competed at the 1996 Summer Olympics, 2000 Summer Olympics and 2004 Summer Olympics but never won an Olympic medal.

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{{Persondata <!-- Metadata: see [[Wikipedia:Persondata]]. --> | NAME = Gevorgyan, Arayik | ALTERNATIVE NAMES = | SHORT DESCRIPTION = Olympic wrestler | DATE OF BIRTH = January 22, 1973 | PLACE OF BIRTH = Artashat, Armenia | DATE OF DEATH = | PLACE OF DEATH = }} {{DEFAULTSORT:Gevorgyan, Arayik}} [[Category:1973 births [[Category:Living people [[Category:People from Artashat [[Category:Armenian wrestlers [[Category:Armenian sport wrestlers [[Category:Wrestlers at the 1996 Summer Olympics [[Category:Wrestlers at the 2000 Summer Olympics [[Category:Wrestlers at the 2004 Summer Olympics [[Category:Olympic wrestlers of Armenia

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Medal record
Men's Freestyle Wrestling
Representing Armenia
World Championships
	2002 Tehran	60 kg

Aram Margaryan (Armenian: Արամ Մարգարյանը:, born March 27, 1974 in Yerevan, Armenia) is a retired Armenian Freestyle wrestler.

Margaryan won a gold medal at the 2002 World Wrestling Championships. He was named Sportsman of the Year by Armenian sports reporters for his performance. Margaryan is only the second World Wrestling Champion in freestyle wrestling from the independent Republic of Armenia, after Arayik Gevorgyan.

References

{{Persondata <!-- Metadata: see [[Wikipedia:Persondata]]. --> | NAME = Margaryan, Aram | ALTERNATIVE NAMES = | SHORT DESCRIPTION = Olympic wrestler | DATE OF BIRTH = March 27, 1974 | PLACE OF BIRTH = Yerevan, Armenia | DATE OF DEATH = | PLACE OF DEATH = }} {{DEFAULTSORT:Margaryan, Aram}} [[Category:1974 births [[Category:Living people [[Category:People from Yerevan [[Category:Armenian wrestlers [[Category:Armenian sport wrestlers

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Medal record
Men's Greco-Roman Wrestling
Representing Armenia
World Championships
	2001 Patras	58 kg
European Championships
	1997 Kouvola	58 kg
	1999 Sofia	58 kg
	2006 Moscow	60 kg

Karen Mnatsakanyan (Armenian: Կարեն Մնացականյանը, born March 3, 1977 in Yerevan, Armenia) is a retired Armenian Greco Roman wrestler.

Mnatsakanyan is only the second Wrestling European Champion in Greco-Roman wrestling from the independent Republic of Armenia, after Armen Nazaryan. He also competed at the 2000 Summer Olympics and 2008 Summer Olympics.

References

{{Persondata <!-- Metadata: see [[Wikipedia:Persondata]]. --> | NAME = Mnatsakanyan, Karen | ALTERNATIVE NAMES = | SHORT DESCRIPTION = Olympic wrestler | DATE OF BIRTH = March 3, 1977 | PLACE OF BIRTH = Yerevan, Armenia | DATE OF DEATH = | PLACE OF DEATH = }} {{DEFAULTSORT:Mnatsakanyan, Karen}} [[Category:1977 births [[Category:Living people [[Category:People from Yerevan [[Category:Armenian wrestlers [[Category:Armenian sport wrestlers [[Category:Wrestlers at the 2000 Summer Olympics [[Category:Wrestlers at the 2008 Summer Olympics [[Category:Olympic wrestlers of Armenia

Oleksandr Stepanyan

http://sportfieber.pytalhost.com/r/ringenfreistil/European%20Championships/1994.pdf

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Medal record
Men's Greco-Roman Wrestling
Representing Armenia
World Championships
	2001 Patras	63 kg

Vaghinak Galstyan (Armenian: Վաղինակ Գալստյան, born November 7, 1973 in Yerevan, Armenia) is a retired Armenian Greco Roman wrestler.

Galstyan is only the second Wrestling World Champion in Greco-Roman wrestling from the independent Republic of Armenia, after Aghasi Manukyan. He also competed at the 2004 Summer Olympics and 2008 Summer Olympics.

References

{{Persondata <!-- Metadata: see [[Wikipedia:Persondata]]. --> | NAME = Galstyan, Vaghinak | ALTERNATIVE NAMES = | SHORT DESCRIPTION = Olympic wrestler | DATE OF BIRTH = November 7, 1973 | PLACE OF BIRTH = Yerevan, Armenia | DATE OF DEATH = | PLACE OF DEATH = }} {{DEFAULTSORT:Galstyan, Vaghinak}} [[Category:1973 births [[Category:Living people [[Category:People from Yerevan [[Category:Armenian wrestlers [[Category:Armenian sport wrestlers [[Category:Wrestlers at the 2000 Summer Olympics [[Category:Wrestlers at the 2004 Summer Olympics [[Category:Olympic wrestlers of Armenia

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Medal record
Men's Freestyle Wrestling
Representing Armenia
European Championships
	1994 Rome	57 kg

Anushavan Sahakyan (Armenian: Անուշավան Սահակյան, born January 23, 1972) is a retired Armenian Freestyle wrestler.

Sahakyan and Armen Mkrtchyan are both the first ever Wrestling European Champions in freestyle wrestling from the independent Republic of Armenia.

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{{Persondata <!-- Metadata: see [[Wikipedia:Persondata]]. --> | NAME = Sahakyan, Anushavan | ALTERNATIVE NAMES = | SHORT DESCRIPTION = Olympic wrestler | DATE OF BIRTH = January 23, 1972 | PLACE OF BIRTH = | DATE OF DEATH = | PLACE OF DEATH = }} {{DEFAULTSORT:Sahakyan, Anushavan}} [[Category:1972 births [[Category:Living people [[Category:Armenian wrestlers [[Category:Armenian sport wrestlers

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Medal record
Men's Freestyle Wrestling
Representing Armenia
European Championships
	1994 Rome	62 kg

Araik Baghdadyan (Armenian: Արայիկ Baghdadyan, born August 29, 1973) is a retired Armenian Freestyle wrestler.

Baghdadyan won a silver medal at the 1994 European Wrestling Championships. Baghdadyan is now the chief coach of Armenia's freestyle wrestling team.

References

{{Persondata <!-- Metadata: see [[Wikipedia:Persondata]]. --> | NAME = Baghdadyan, Araik | ALTERNATIVE NAMES = | SHORT DESCRIPTION = Olympic wrestler | DATE OF BIRTH = August 29, 1973 | PLACE OF BIRTH = | DATE OF DEATH = | PLACE OF DEATH = }} {{DEFAULTSORT:Baghdadyan, Araik}} [[Category:1973 births [[Category:Living people [[Category:Armenian wrestlers [[Category:Armenian sport wrestlers

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Medal record
Men's Greco-Roman Wrestling
Representing Armenia
European Championships
	2000 Moscow	69 kg
	2001 Istanbul	69 kg
	2005 Varna	74 kg

Movses Karapetyan (Armenian: Մովսես Կարապետյանը:, born January 2, 1978 in Yerevan, Armenia) is a retired Armenian Greco Roman wrestler.

Karapetyan won a gold medal at the 2005 European Wrestling Championships.

References

{{Persondata <!-- Metadata: see [[Wikipedia:Persondata]]. --> | NAME = Karapetyan, Movses | ALTERNATIVE NAMES = | SHORT DESCRIPTION = Olympic wrestler | DATE OF BIRTH = January 2, 1978 | PLACE OF BIRTH = Yerevan, Armenia | DATE OF DEATH = | PLACE OF DEATH = }} {{DEFAULTSORT:Karapetyan, Movses}} [[Category:1978 births [[Category:Living people [[Category:People from Yerevan [[Category:Armenian wrestlers [[Category:Armenian sport wrestlers

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Medal record
Men's Greco-Roman Wrestling
Representing Armenia
European Championships
	2003 Belgrade	84 kg

Levon Geghamyan (Armenian: Վաղինակ Գալստյան, born July 25, 1977 in Akhuryan, Armenia) is a retired Armenian Greco Roman wrestler.

Geghamyan won a silver medal at the 2003 European Wrestling Championships. Geghamyan is also a three-time Olympian, having competed at the 1996 Summer Olympics, 2000 Summer Olympics and 2004 Summer Olympics. His most noteworthy Olympic win was against 2008 Olympic gold medalist Andrea Minguzzi, whom Geghamyan defeated via grand superiority (11-0) at the 2004 Olympics.

References

{{Persondata <!-- Metadata: see [[Wikipedia:Persondata]]. --> | NAME = Geghamyan, Levon | ALTERNATIVE NAMES = | SHORT DESCRIPTION = Olympic wrestler | DATE OF BIRTH = July 25, 1977 | PLACE OF BIRTH = Akhuryan, Armenia | DATE OF DEATH = | PLACE OF DEATH = }} {{DEFAULTSORT:Geghamyan, Levon}} [[Category:1977 births [[Category:Living people [[Category:People from Akhuryan [[Category:Armenian wrestlers [[Category:Armenian sport wrestlers [[Category:Wrestlers at the 1996 Summer Olympics [[Category:Wrestlers at the 2000 Summer Olympics [[Category:Wrestlers at the 2004 Summer Olympics [[Category:Olympic wrestlers of Armenia

TheShadowCrow/Archive 1

Medal record
Men's Freestyle Wrestling
Representing Armenia
European Championships
	2003 Riga	84 kg

Mahmed Aghaev (born May 26, 1976) is a retired Russian Freestyle wrestler. He switched to the Armenian national wrestling team in 1999.

References

{{Persondata <!-- Metadata: see [[Wikipedia:Persondata]]. --> | NAME = Aghaev, Mahmed | ALTERNATIVE NAMES = | SHORT DESCRIPTION = Olympic wrestler | DATE OF BIRTH = May 26, 1976 | PLACE OF BIRTH = | DATE OF DEATH = | PLACE OF DEATH = }} {{DEFAULTSORT:Aghaev, Mahmed}} [[Category:1976 births [[Category:Living people [[Category:Armenian sport wrestlers [[Category:Russian sport wrestlers

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Medal record
Men's Freestyle Wrestling
Representing Russia
European Championships
	2004 Ankara	74 kg
Representing Armenia
European Championships
	2006 Moscow	74 kg

Ruslan Kokaev (born September 12, 1980) is a retired Russian Freestyle wrestler. He switched to the Armenian national wrestling team in 2006.

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{{Persondata <!-- Metadata: see [[Wikipedia:Persondata]]. --> | NAME = Kokaev, Ruslan | ALTERNATIVE NAMES = | SHORT DESCRIPTION = Olympic wrestler | DATE OF BIRTH = September 12, 1980 | PLACE OF BIRTH = | DATE OF DEATH = | PLACE OF DEATH = }} {{DEFAULTSORT:Kokaev, Ruslan}} [[Category:1980 births [[Category:Living people [[Category:Armenian sport wrestlers [[Category:Russian sport wrestlers

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Medal record
Men's Freestyle Wrestling
Representing Russia
European Championships
	2003 Riga	84 kg
Representing Armenia
European Championships
	2006 Moscow	84 kg

Vadim Laliev (born December 12, 1980 in Tskhinvali, South Ossetia) is a retired Ossetian Freestyle wrestler. He joined the Russian national wrestling team in 1999 and switched to the Armenian national wrestling team in 2006. He is the younger brother of Olympic silver medalist Gennadiy Laliev.

References

{{Persondata <!-- Metadata: see [[Wikipedia:Persondata]]. --> | NAME = Laliev, Vadim | ALTERNATIVE NAMES = | SHORT DESCRIPTION = Olympic wrestler | DATE OF BIRTH = December 12, 1980 | PLACE OF BIRTH = | DATE OF DEATH = | PLACE OF DEATH = }} {{DEFAULTSORT:Laliev, Vadim}} [[Category:1980 births [[Category:Living people [[Category:Ossetian people [[Category:Armenian sport wrestlers [[Category:Russian sport wrestlers

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Medal record
Men's Greco-Roman Wrestling
Representing Armenia
European Championships
	2006 Moscow	84 kg

Denis Forov (Armenian: Դենիս Ֆորով, born December 3, 1984 in Zhmerynka, Ukraine) is a retired Armenian Greco Roman wrestler. He was on the Ukrainian national wrestling team as a cadet and the Russian national wrestling team as a junior.

Forov won a silver medal at the 2006 European Wrestling Championships. He also competed at the 2008 Summer Olympics.

References

{{Persondata <!-- Metadata: see [[Wikipedia:Persondata]]. --> | NAME = Forov, Denis | ALTERNATIVE NAMES = | SHORT DESCRIPTION = Olympic wrestler | DATE OF BIRTH = December 3, 1984 | PLACE OF BIRTH = Zhmerynka, Ukraine | DATE OF DEATH = | PLACE OF DEATH = }} {{DEFAULTSORT:Forov, Denis}} [[Category:1984 births [[Category:Living people [[Category:People from Zhmerynka [[Category:Armenian wrestlers [[Category:Armenian sport wrestlers [[Category:Russian sport wrestlers [[Category:Ukrainian sport wrestlers [[Category:Wrestlers at the 2008 Summer Olympics [[Category:Olympic wrestlers of Armenia

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Medal record
Men's Freestyle Wrestling
Representing Armenia
European Championships
	2006 Moscow	96 kg
	2007 Sofia	96 kg

Shamil Gitinov (born July 4, 1989 in Makhachkala, Republic of Dagestan, Russia) is a retired Armenian Freestyle wrestler of Chechen descent.

References

{{Persondata <!-- Metadata: see [[Wikipedia:Persondata]]. --> | NAME = Gitinov, Shamil | ALTERNATIVE NAMES = | SHORT DESCRIPTION = Olympic wrestler | DATE OF BIRTH = July 4, 1989 | PLACE OF BIRTH = | DATE OF DEATH = | PLACE OF DEATH = }} {{DEFAULTSORT:Gitinov, Shamil}} [[Category:1989 births [[Category:Living people [[Category:Chechen people [[Category:Armenian sport wrestlers

http://www.themat.com/article.php?ArticleID=23425

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Medal record
Men's Freestyle Wrestling
Representing Armenia
European Championships
	2011 Dortmund	74 kg

Musa Murtazaliev (born May 26, 1988) is an Armenian Freestyle wrestler of Avar descent.

Murtazaliev won a silver medal at the 2011 European Wrestling Championships.

References

{{Persondata <!-- Metadata: see [[Wikipedia:Persondata]]. --> | NAME = Murtazaliev, Musa | ALTERNATIVE NAMES = | SHORT DESCRIPTION = Olympic wrestler | DATE OF BIRTH = May 26, 1988 | PLACE OF BIRTH = | DATE OF DEATH = | PLACE OF DEATH = }} {{DEFAULTSORT:Murtazaliev, Musa}} [[Category:1988 births [[Category:Living people [[Category:Avar people [[Category:Armenian sport wrestlers

TheShadowCrow/Archive 1

Medal record
Men's Greco-Roman Wrestling
Representing Armenia
European Championships
	2011 Dortmund	84 kg

Artur Shahinyan (Armenian: Արթուր Շահինյանը, born January 8, 1987) is an Armenian Greco Roman wrestler.

Shahinyan won a silver medal at the 2011 European Wrestling Championships.

References

{{Persondata <!-- Metadata: see [[Wikipedia:Persondata]]. --> | NAME = Shahinyan, Artur | ALTERNATIVE NAMES = | SHORT DESCRIPTION = Olympic wrestler | DATE OF BIRTH = January 8, 1987 | PLACE OF BIRTH = | DATE OF DEATH = | PLACE OF DEATH = }} {{DEFAULTSORT:Shahinyan, Artur}} [[Category:1987 births [[Category:Living people [[Category:Armenian wrestlers [[Category:Armenian sport wrestlers

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Medal record
Women's Freestyle Wrestling
Representing Armenia
European Championships
	2006 Moscow	72 kg

Karine Shadoyan (Armenian: Կարինե Shadoyan, born March 4, 1975) is an Armenian Freestyle female wrestler.

Shadoyan won a silver medal at the 2006 European Wrestling Championships. She is the first female wrestler from Armenia to win a medal at the European Wrestling Championships.

References

{{Persondata <!-- Metadata: see [[Wikipedia:Persondata]]. --> | NAME = Shadoyan, Karine | ALTERNATIVE NAMES = | SHORT DESCRIPTION = Olympic wrestler | DATE OF BIRTH = March 4, 1975 | PLACE OF BIRTH = | DATE OF DEATH = | PLACE OF DEATH = }} {{DEFAULTSORT:Shadoyan, Karine}} [[Category:1975 births [[Category:Living people [[Category:Armenian wrestlers [[Category:Armenian sport wrestlers

http://www.fila-official.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=768&Itemid=100236&lang=en

Simonyan, Seiran Russia

Safaryan, Maksim, Russia

Grigoryan, Armen Russia

Arutunyan, Migran Russia

Oganesyan, David Ukraine

Maryanayan, Stepan Russia

Terteryan, Gevorg Russia

Artak Harutyunyan (Armenian: Արտակ Հարությունյան, born March 31, 1983) is an Armenian Greco Roman wrestler.

Harutyunyan was a member of the Armenian Greco-Roman wrestling team at the 2010 FILA Wrestling World Cup. The Armenian team came in third place.

References

{{Persondata <!-- Metadata: see [[Wikipedia:Persondata]]. --> | NAME = Harutyunyan, Artak | ALTERNATIVE NAMES = | SHORT DESCRIPTION = Olympic wrestler | DATE OF BIRTH = March 31, 1983 | PLACE OF BIRTH = | DATE OF DEATH = | PLACE OF DEATH = }} {{DEFAULTSORT:Harutyunyan, Artak}} [[Category:1983 births [[Category:Living people [[Category:Armenian wrestlers [[Category:Armenian sport wrestlers

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Medal record
Representing Armenia
Men's Greco-Roman Wrestling
World Cup
	2010 Yerevan	66 kg

Arman Adikyan (Armenian: Արման Ադիկյանը, born November 10, 1984 in Vagharshapat, Armenia) is an Armenian Greco Roman wrestler.

Adikyan competed at the 2008 Summer Olympics.

Adikyan was a member of the Armenian Greco-Roman wrestling team at the 2010 FILA Wrestling World Cup. The Armenian team came in third place. Adikyan personally won a silver medal.

References

{{Persondata <!-- Metadata: see [[Wikipedia:Persondata]]. --> | NAME = Adikyan, Arman | ALTERNATIVE NAMES = | SHORT DESCRIPTION = Olympic wrestler | DATE OF BIRTH = November 10, 1984 | PLACE OF BIRTH = Vagharshapat, Armenia | DATE OF DEATH = | PLACE OF DEATH = }} {{DEFAULTSORT:Adikyan, Arman}} [[Category:1984 births [[Category:Living people [[Category:People from Vagharshapat [[Category:Armenian wrestlers [[Category:Armenian sport wrestlers [[Category:Wrestlers at the 2008 Summer Olympics [[Category:Olympic wrestlers of Armenia

Hovhannes Varderesyan (Armenian: Հովհաննես Վարդերեսյան, born February 12, 1989 in Yerevan, Armenia) is an Armenian Greco Roman wrestler.

Varderesyan was a member of the Armenian Greco-Roman wrestling team at the 2010 FILA Wrestling World Cup. The Armenian team came in third place.

Varderesyan competed at the 2012 Summer Olympics. He was defeated by eventual gold medalist Kim Hyeon-Woo. While at London, basketball player Kobe Bryant posted a picture on his Facebook wall of Varderesyan and Anthony Davis.

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{{Persondata <!-- Metadata: see [[Wikipedia:Persondata]]. --> | NAME = Varderesyan, Hovhannes | ALTERNATIVE NAMES = | SHORT DESCRIPTION = Olympic wrestler | DATE OF BIRTH = February 12, 1989 | PLACE OF BIRTH = Yerevan, Armenia | DATE OF DEATH = | PLACE OF DEATH = }} {{DEFAULTSORT:Varderesyan, Hovhannes}} [[Category:1989 births [[Category:Living people [[Category:People from Yerevan [[Category:Armenian wrestlers [[Category:Armenian sport wrestlers [[Category:Wrestlers at the 2012 Summer Olympics [[Category:Olympic wrestlers of Armenia

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Medal record
Representing Armenia
Men's Greco-Roman Wrestling
World Cup
	2009 Clermont-Ferrand	96 kg
	2010 Yerevan	96 kg

Arman Geghamyan (Armenian: Արման Գեղամյանը, born September 12, 1981) is an Armenian Greco Roman wrestler.

Geghamyan was a member of the Armenian Greco-Roman wrestling team at the 2009 and 2010 FILA Wrestling World Cup. The Armenian team came in third place both years. Geghamyan personally won a bronze medal in 2009 and a silver medal in 2010.

References

{{Persondata <!-- Metadata: see [[Wikipedia:Persondata]]. --> | NAME = Geghamyan, Arman | ALTERNATIVE NAMES = | SHORT DESCRIPTION = Olympic wrestler | DATE OF BIRTH = September 12, 1981 | PLACE OF BIRTH = Yerevan, Armenia | DATE OF DEATH = | PLACE OF DEATH = }} {{DEFAULTSORT:Geghamyan, Arman}} [[Category:1981 births [[Category:Living people [[Category:Armenian wrestlers [[Category:Armenian sport wrestlers

Sargis Tonoyan (Armenian: Սարգիս Տոնոյանը, born January 12, 1988) is an Armenian Greco Roman wrestler.

Tonoyan was a member of the Armenian Greco-Roman wrestling team at the 2010 FILA Wrestling World Cup. The Armenian team came in third place.

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{{Persondata <!-- Metadata: see [[Wikipedia:Persondata]]. --> | NAME = Tonoyan, Sargis | ALTERNATIVE NAMES = | SHORT DESCRIPTION = Olympic wrestler | DATE OF BIRTH = January 12, 1988 | PLACE OF BIRTH = | DATE OF DEATH = | PLACE OF DEATH = }} {{DEFAULTSORT:Tonoyan, Sargis}} [[Category:1988 births [[Category:Living people [[Category:Armenian wrestlers [[Category:Armenian sport wrestlers

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Medal record
Men's Greco-Roman Wrestling
Representing Armenia
European Championships
	1994 Athens	48 kg
	1995 Besançon	48 kg
	1996 Budapest	48 kg

Ioannis Agakatzanian (Greek: Ιωάννης Αγκακατζανιαν, born May 21, 1971 in Unknown, Armenia), also known as Varntan Ioannis Angakatzanian, is a retired Armenian-Greek Greco Roman wrestler.

Agakatzanian competed at the 1996 Summer Olympics. He also won a gold medal at the 1995 Wrestling European Championships.

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{{Persondata <!-- Metadata: see [[Wikipedia:Persondata]]. --> | NAME = Agakatzanian, Ioannis | ALTERNATIVE NAMES = | SHORT DESCRIPTION = Olympic wrestler | DATE OF BIRTH = May 21, 1971 | PLACE OF BIRTH = Armenia | DATE OF DEATH = | PLACE OF DEATH = }} {{DEFAULTSORT:Agakatzanian, Ioannis}} [[Category:1971 births [[Category:Living people [[Category:Armenian wrestlers [[Category:Greek sport wrestlers [[Category:Wrestlers at the 1996 Summer Olympics [[Category:Olympic wrestlers of Greece [[Category:Greek Armenians

Sarkis Elgkian (Greek: Σαρκης Ελγκιαν, born March 24, 1972) is a retired Armenian-Greek Greco Roman wrestler.

Elngian competed at the 1996 Summer Olympics.

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{{Persondata <!-- Metadata: see [[Wikipedia:Persondata]]. --> | NAME = Elgkian, Sarkis | ALTERNATIVE NAMES = | SHORT DESCRIPTION = Olympic wrestler | DATE OF BIRTH = March 24, 1972 | PLACE OF BIRTH = | DATE OF DEATH = | PLACE OF DEATH = }} {{DEFAULTSORT:Elgkian, Sarkis}} [[Category:1972 births [[Category:Living people [[Category:Armenian wrestlers [[Category:Greek sport wrestlers [[Category:Wrestlers at the 1996 Summer Olympics [[Category:Olympic wrestlers of Greece [[Category:Greek Armenians

Aroutic Roumpenian (Greek: Αριστίδης Ρουμπενιαν, born June 5, 1966 in Unknown, Armenia) is a retired Armenian-Greek Greco Roman wrestler.

Roumbenian competed at the 1996 Summer Olympics.

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{{Persondata <!-- Metadata: see [[Wikipedia:Persondata]]. --> | NAME = Roumpenian, Aroutic | ALTERNATIVE NAMES = | SHORT DESCRIPTION = Olympic wrestler | DATE OF BIRTH = June 5, 1966 | PLACE OF BIRTH = Armenia | DATE OF DEATH = | PLACE OF DEATH = }} {{DEFAULTSORT:Roumpenian, Aroutic}} [[Category:1966 births [[Category:Living people [[Category:Armenian wrestlers [[Category:Greek sport wrestlers [[Category:Wrestlers at the 1996 Summer Olympics [[Category:Olympic wrestlers of Greece [[Category:Greek Armenians

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Medal record
Men's Freestyle Wrestling
Representing Cyprus
Commonwealth Games
	1994 Victoria	62 kg

Arout Parsekian (Greek: Αρούτ Παρσεκιάν, born April 17, 1970) is a retired Armenian-Cypriot Freestyle wrestler.

Parsekian competed at the 1996 Summer Olympics. He is only the second wrestler from Cyprus to qualify for the Olympics, after Konstantinos Iliadis.

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{{Persondata <!-- Metadata: see [[Wikipedia:Persondata]]. --> | NAME = Parsekian, Arout | ALTERNATIVE NAMES = | SHORT DESCRIPTION = Olympic wrestler | DATE OF BIRTH = April 17, 1970 | PLACE OF BIRTH = | DATE OF DEATH = | PLACE OF DEATH = }} {{DEFAULTSORT:Parsekian, Arout}} [[Category:1970 births [[Category:Living people [[Category:Armenian wrestlers [[Category:Cypriot sport wrestlers [[Category:Wrestlers at the 1996 Summer Olympics [[Category:Olympic wrestlers of Cyprus [[Category:Cypriot Armenians

Ruslan Vartanov (born August 18, 1971 in Vilnius, Lithuania), also known as Ruslan Vartanov, is a retired Armenian-Lithuanian Greco Roman wrestler.

Vartanov competed at the 1996 Summer Olympics.

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{{Persondata <!-- Metadata: see [[Wikipedia:Persondata]]. --> | NAME = Vartanov, Ruslan | ALTERNATIVE NAMES = | SHORT DESCRIPTION = Olympic wrestler | DATE OF BIRTH = August 18, 1971 | PLACE OF BIRTH = Vilnius, Lithuania | DATE OF DEATH = | PLACE OF DEATH = }} {{DEFAULTSORT:Vartanov, Ruslan}} [[Category:1971 births [[Category:Living people [[Category:Armenian wrestlers [[Category:Lithuanian sport wrestlers [[Category:Wrestlers at the 1996 Summer Olympics [[Category:Olympic wrestlers of Lithuania [[Category:Lithuanian Armenians

Jaime Matossian (born September 26, 1955 in Madrid, Spain) is a retired Armenian-Spanish equestrian. His horse was named New Venture.

Matossian competed at the 2000 Summer Olympics.

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{{Persondata <!-- Metadata: see [[Wikipedia:Persondata]]. --> | NAME = Matossian, Jaime | ALTERNATIVE NAMES = | SHORT DESCRIPTION = Olympic equestrian | DATE OF BIRTH = September 26, 1955 | PLACE OF BIRTH = Madrid, Spain | DATE OF DEATH = | PLACE OF DEATH = }} {{DEFAULTSORT:Matossian, Jaime}} [[Category:1955 birth [[Category:Living people [[Category:Dressage riders from Spain [[Category:Equestrians at the 2000 Summer Olympics [[Category:Olympic equestrians of Spain [[Category:Spanish Armenians

http://www.news.az/articles/politics/71947

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Medal record
Women's shooting
Representing Russia
World Championships
	1999 Tampere	Skeet
	2006 Zagreb	Skeet
World Cup
	2007 Belgrade	Skeet

Erdzhanik Avetisyan (Russian: Ерджаник Жораевна Аветисян, born December 7, 1969 in Unknown, Azerbaijan SSR) is an Armenian-Russian sport shooter, specializing in the skeet shootings event.

Avetisyan first started shooting as a 16-year-old.

Avetisyan competed at the 2000 Summer Olympics. She also won the 1999 World Shooting Championships, 2006 World Shooting Championships and 2007 World Cup in women's skeet.

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Yerdzhanik Avetisyan redirects

References

{{Persondata <!-- Metadata: see [[Wikipedia:Persondata]]. --> | NAME = Avetisyan, Erdzhanik | ALTERNATIVE NAMES = Avetisyan, Yerdzhanik | SHORT DESCRIPTION = Sport shooter | DATE OF BIRTH = December 7, 1969 | PLACE OF BIRTH = Azerbaijan SSR | DATE OF DEATH = | PLACE OF DEATH = }} {{DEFAULTSORT:Avetisyan, Erdzhanik}} [[Category:1969 births [[Category:Living people [[Category:Russian sport shooters [[Category:Skeet shooters [[Category:Shooters at the 2000 Summer Olympics [[Category:Olympic shooters of Russia [[Category:Russian Armenians

Oleksandr Stepanyan (Ukrainian: Олександр Степанян, born January 10, 1968) is a retired Armenian-Ukrainian Greco Roman wrestler.

Stepanyan competed at the 2000 Summer Olympics.

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Unlike wrestling and boxing, which have deep historical roots in Armenia dating back thousands of years, weightlifting rose to prominence in the mid-twentieth century of the Soviet Armenia era, during which the Soviet Union quickly became the most dominant nation in the world in the sport of weightlifting.

By the 1970s-90s, Armenian weightlifters began to play a huge role in the Soviet Union's weightlifting program. The first Olympic medalist from the Armenian SSR was Vartan Militosyan, who won a silver medal at the 1976 Summer Olympics.

Yurik Vardanyan became the first weightlifter from Armenia to win a gold medal in weightlifting at the 1980 Summer Olympics. In a dominant proformance, Vardanyan became the first ever light-heavyweight (82.5 kg) to lift a total of 400 kg in an official competition, shattering both the Olympic and world record. By contrast, middle-heavyweight gold medalist Peter Baczako (90 kg) totaled 377.5 kg and sub-heavyweight gold medalist Ota Zaremba (100 kg) totaled 395 kg.

Vardanyan set the division record for a final time at the 1984 Friendship Games, an alternative the the Soviet boycotted 1984 Summer Olympics, lifting a total of 405 kg. Vardanyan's achievements have not been matched since, as the current light-heavyweight record for the now 85 kg light heavyweight category (nearby not including records set before the weightlimit change) is currently 394 kg, set by Andrei Rybakou at the 2008 Summer Olympics. Vardanyan set 41 world records during his decorated career.

For his accomplishments, Vardanyan earned the title Honoured Master of Sports of the USSR in 1977 and was awarded the Order of Lenin in 1985.

To this day, Vardanyan is still hailed as a hero in Armenia for his deeds in the sport of weightlifting. A stamp of Vardanyan was printed in 2010 in honor of him.

Along with Vardanyan, other dominant Armenian weightlifters of the 1980s included 1980 Olympic silver medalist Yurik Sarkisyan, who set 12 world records during his career, and 1988 Olympic gold medalist Oksen Mirzoyan, who set also set 12 world records during his career.

At the 1992 Summer Olympics, Israel Militosyan, who perviously won a silver medal at the 1988 Oylmpics, won a gold medal in the same division. Militosyan is, to this day, the final Armenian to win an Olympic gold medal. The 1992 Olympics signaled the end of Soviet weightlifting.

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Armenia has so far set 4 four world records in weightlifting, all in the snatch. Khachatur Kyapanaktsyan set two of them. Sergo Chakhoyan set another. Militosyan, who set a snatch world record twice in 1989 under the Soviet Union, set the record again in 1994 for Armenia.

Aghvan Grigoryan, who became the first Armenian Olympian to bear the flag of Armenia at the Summer Olympics in 1996, was a weightlifter.

Arsen Melikyan became the first Armenian weightlifter for the independent Republic of Armenia to win an Olympic medal, having won a bronze medal at the 2000 Summer Olympics.

Armenian weightlifters came in first place at the 2008 European Weightlifting Championships.

Tigran Gevorg Martirosyan, Gevorg Davtyan and Tigran Vardan Martirosyan all won bronze medals at the 2008 Summer Olympics, making it the most decortated Olympics in weightlifting for Armenia to date.

Nazik Avdalyan won a gold medal at the 2009 World Weightlifting Championships and became the first weightlifter from the independent Republic of Armenia to win a gold medal at the World Weightlifting Championships. Tigran Gevorg Martirosyan also won a gold medal at the 2010 World Weightlifting Championships, becoming the first male weightlifter from independent Armenia to do so.

Hripsime Khurshudyan became the first Armenian women to win an Olympic medal in weightlifting, having won a bronze medal at the 2012 Summer Olympics.

The Armenian city of Gyumri is well known for producing many great weightlifters. Many of the best weightlifters from Armenia have come from the city of Gyumri, such as Vardanyan, Militosyan, Davtyan, Martirosyan and Avdalyan.

Oksen Mirzoyan later became the Head Coach of the Armenian national weightlifting team and is now the current Chairman of Armenian Weightlifting Federation.

Armenia at the 1996 Summer Olympics

1 Armen Nazaryan Male 22 Wrestling 2 Armen Mkrtchyan Male 22 Wrestling 3 Hovhannes Avtandilyan Male 18 Diving 4 Hovhannes Barseghyan Male 26 Weightlifting 5 Sergo Chakhoyan Male 26 Weightlifting 6 Ashot Danielyan Male 22 Weightlifting 7 Eduard Darbinyan Male 25 Weightlifting 8 Robert Emmiyan Male 31 Athletics 9 Levon Geghamyan Male 18 Wrestling 10 Arayik Gevorgyan Male 23 Wrestling 11 Arsen Gevorgyan Male 21 Judo 12 Artur Gevorgyan Male 21 Boxing 13 Arsen Ghazaryan Male 21 Cycling 14 Mekhak Ghazaryan Male 29 Boxing 15 Aghvan Grigoryan Male 27 Weightlifting 16 Arusyak Gyulbudaghyan Female 17 Diving 17 Alex Karapetyan Male 25 Weightlifting 18 Khachatur Kyapanaktsyan Male 28 Weightlifting 19 Aghasi Manukyan Male 29 Wrestling 20 Anush Manukyan Female 26 Swimming 21 Mkhitar Manukyan Male 23 Wrestling 22 Samvel Manukyan Male 21 Wrestling 23 Armen Martirosyan Male 26 Athletics 24 Israel Militosyan Male 27 Weightlifting 25 Nshan Munchyan Male 33 Boxing 26 Lernik Papyan Male 29 Boxing 27 Hrachya Petikyan Male 36 Shooting 28 Norayr Sargsyan Male 21 Gymnastics 29 Sargis Sargsyan Male 23 Tennis 30 Ara Vardanyan Male 21 Weightlifting 31 Hayk Yeghiazaryan Male 24 Weightlifting 32 Tsolak Yeghishyan Male 25 Wrestling

Medalists

Gold

• Armen Nazaryan — Wrestling, Men's Greco-Roman Flyweight (52 kg)

Silver

• Armen Mkrtchyan — Wrestling, Men's Freestyle Paperweight (48 kg)

Athletics

Further information: Athletics at the 1996 Summer Olympics

Men's Long Jump

• Robert Emmiyan

• Qualification — 7.76m (→ did not advance)

Boxing

Further information: Boxing at the 1996 Summer Olympics

Men's Light Flyweight (– 48 kg)

• Nshan Munchyan
  1. First Round — Bye
  2. Second Round — Lost to Daniel Petrov (Bulgaria), 5-11

Men's Flyweight (– 51 kg)

• Lernik Papyan
  1. First Round — Defeated Kazumasa Tsujimoto (Japan), 10-5
  2. Second Round — Lost to Maikro Romero (Cuba), 6-22

Men's Featherweight (– 57 kg)

• Artur Gevorgyan
  1. First Round — Defeated Elvis Konamegui (Cameroon), 10-3
  2. Second Round — Lost to Floyd Mayweather Jr. (United States), 3-16

Men's Lightweight (– 60 kg)

• Mekhak Ghazaryan
  1. First Round — Bye
  2. Second Round — Lost to Michael Strange (Canada), 7-16

Cycling

Further information: Cycling at the 1996 Summer Olympics

Men's Individual Road Race

• Arsen Ghazaryan

• Final — (→ did not finish)

Diving

Further information: Diving at the 1996 Summer Olympics

Men's 10m Platform

• Hovhannes Avtandilyan

• Preliminary Heat — 275.64 (→ did not advance, 32nd place)

Women's 3m Springnboard

• Arus Gyulbudakian

• Preliminary Heat — 228.72 (→ did not advance, 20th place)

Gymnastics

Further information: Gymnastics at the 1996 Summer Olympics

Men's Individual All-Around

• Norayr Sargsyan

• Qualification — 110.211 (→ did not advance)

Judo

Further information: Judo at the 1996 Summer Olympics

Men's Half-Middleweight

• Arsen Gevorgyan

• (→ 21st place)

Shooting

Further information: Shooting at the 1996 Summer Olympics

Men's 50 metre rifle three positions

• Hrachya Petikyan

• Qualification — 1164 (→ did not advance)

Swimming

Further information: Swimming at the 1996 Summer Olympics

Women's 100 metre breaststroke

• Anush Manukyan

• Heat — 1:20.70 (→ did not advance)

Tennis

Further information: Tennis at the 1996 Summer Olympics

Men's Singles Competition

• Sargis Sargsian
  1. First Round - Defeated Daniel Nestor of Canada in two sets: 6-4, 6-4
  2. Second Round - Lost to Thomas Enqvist of Sweden in three sets: 6-4, 6-7 (2-7), 4-6

Weightlifting

Further information: Weightlifting at the 1996 Summer Olympics

Men's 64 kg

• Eduard Darbinyan

• Snatch — 132.5 kg
• Clean & Jerk — 160.0 kg
• Total — 292.5 kg (→ 12th place)

Men's 70 kg

• Israel Militosyan

• Snatch — 152.5 kg
• Clean & Jerk — 182.5 kg
• Total — 335.0 kg (→ 6th place)

• Hayk Yeghiazaryan

• Snatch — 145.0 kg
• Clean & Jerk — 180.0 kg
• Total — 325.0 kg (→ 12th place)

Men's 76 kg

• Hovhannes Barsegian

• Snatch — 155.0 kg
• Clean & Jerk — 190.0 kg
• Total — 345.0 kg (→ 8th place)

• Khachatur Kyapanaktsyan

• Snatch — 165.0 kg
• Clean & Jerk — None
• Total — (→ did not finish)

Men's Light-Heavyweight (– 83 kg)

• Sergo Chakhoyan

• Snatch — 170.0 kg
• Clean & Jerk — 195.0 kg
• Total — 365.0 kg (→ 6th place)

Men's 91 kg

• Aleksander Karapetyan

• Snatch — 167.5 kg
• Clean & Jerk — 200.0 kg
• Total — 367.5 kg (→ 13th place)

Men's 99 kg

• Aghvan Grigorian

• Snatch — 175.0 kg
• Clean & Jerk — 205.0 kg
• Total — 380.0 kg (→ 8th place)

Men's 108 kg

• Ara Vardanyan

• Snatch — 180.0 kg
• Clean & Jerk — 215.0 kg
• Total — 395.0 kg (→ 7th place)

Men's +108 kg

• Ashot Danielyan

• Snatch — 177.5 kg
• Clean & Jerk — 217.5 kg
• Total — 395.0 kg (→ 13th place)

Wrestling

Further information: Wrestling at the 1996 Summer Olympics

Greco-Roman 52 kg

• Armen Nazaryan

• (→ Gold Medal)

Greco-Roman 57 kg

• Aghasi Manukyan

• (→ 13th place)

Greco-Roman 62 kg

• Mkhitar Manukyan

• (→ 7th place)

Greco-Roman 68 kg

• Samvel Manukyan

• (→ 10th place)

Greco-Roman 82 kg

• Levon Geghamyan

• (→ 7th place)

Greco-Roman 90 kg

• Tsolak Yeghishyan

• (→ 9th place)

Freestyle 48 kg

• Armen Mkrtchyan

• (→ Silver Medal)

Freestyle 68 kg

• Arayik Gevorgyan

• (→ 5th place)

See also

• Sports in Armenia

Notes

• (ed.) Watkins, Ginger T. (1997). The Official Report of the Centennial Olympic Games, Volume III The Competition Results (PDF). Atlanta: Peachtree Publishers. ISBN 1-56145-150-9. Retrieved 19 November 2012. {{cite book}}: |author= has generic name (help)

References

• Official Olympic Reports
• International Olympic Committee results database

Armenia at the 2000 Summer Olympics

1 Arsen Melikyan Male 24 Weightlifting 2 Hovhannes Avtandilyan Male 22 Diving 3 Martin Berberyan Male 20 Wrestling 4 Ashot Danielyan Male 26 Weightlifting 5 Vic Darchinyan Male 24 Boxing 6 Haykaz Galstyan Male 22 Wrestling 7 Vaghinak Galstyan Male 26 Wrestling 8 Levon Geghamyan Male 23 Wrestling 9 Arayik Gevorgyan Male 27 Wrestling 10 Artur Gevorgyan Male 25 Boxing 11 Vladimir Grushikhin Male 29 Canoeing 12 Arshak Hayrapetyan Male 21 Wrestling 13 Gagik Khachatryan Male 28 Weightlifting 14 Dimitri Margaryan Male 22 Swimming 15 Armen Martirosyan Male 31 Athletics 16 Yuliana Mikheeva Female 22 Swimming 17 Karen Mnatsakanyan Male 23 Wrestling 18 Anna Nasilyan Female 20 Athletics 19 Hrachya Petikyan Male 40 Shooting 20 Rudik Petrosyan Male 19 Weightlifting 21 Shirak Poghosyan Male 30 Athletics 22 Aram Ramazyan Male 21 Boxing 23 Rafayel Samurgashev Male 37 Wrestling 24 Sargis Sargsyan Male 27 Tennis 25 Vardan Voskanyan Male 28 Judo

Medalists

Bronze

• Arsen Melikyan — Weightlifting, Men's Middleweight (– 77 kg)

Athletics

Main article: Athletics at the 2000 Summer Olympics

Men's Long Jump

• Shirak Poghosyan

• Qualifying — 7.24 (→ did not advance)

Men's Triple Jump

• Armen Martirosyan

• Qualifying — 14.95 (→ did not advance)

Women's 800 m

• Anna Nasilyan

• Round 1 — 02:14.86 (→ did not advance)

Boxing

Main article: Boxing at the 2000 Summer Olympics

Men's Flyweight (– 51kg)

• Vakhtang Darchinyan
  • Round 1 — Bye
  • Round 2 — Defeated Ilfat Raziapov of Russia
  • Quarterfinal — Lost to Bulat Jumadilov of Kazakhstan (→ did not advance)

Men's Bantamweight (– 54kg)

• Aram Ramazyan
  • Round 1 — Lost to Theimuraz Khurtsilava of Georgia (→ did not advance)

Men's Lightweight (– 60kg)

• Artur Gevorgyan
  • Round 1 — Lost to Nurzhan Karimzhanov of Kazakhstan (→ did not advance)

Canoeing

Main article: Canoeing at the 2000 Summer Olympics

Flatwater

Men's Competition

Men's Kayak Singles 500m

• Vladimir Grushikhin

• Qualifying Heat — 01:42.430
• Semifinal — DSQ (→ did not advance)

Men's Kayak Singles 1000m

• Vladimir Grushikhin

• Qualifying Heat — 03:40.623
• Semifinal — 03:41.143 (→ did not advance)

Diving

Main article: Diving at the 2000 Summer Olympics

Men's 10 Metre Platform

• Hovhannes Avtandilyan

• Preliminary — 284.91 (→ did not advance, 38th place)

Judo

Main article: Judo at the 2000 Summer Olympics

Men's 60 kg

• Vardan Voskanyan

• (→ 14th place)

Shooting

Main article: Shooting at the 2000 Summer Olympics

Men's 50 metre rifle three positions

• Hratchya Petikyan

• Qualification — 1156 (→ did not advance)

Swimming

Main article: Swimming at the 2000 Summer Olympics

Men's 50m Freestyle

• Dmitri Margaryan

• Preliminary Heat — 25.29 (→ did not advance)

Women's 50m Freestyle

• Yuliana Mikheeva

• Preliminary Heat — 29.79 (→ did not advance)

Tennis

Main article: Tennis at the 2000 Summer Olympics

Men's Singles Competition

• Sargis Sargsian

• First Round - Lost to Kristian Pless of Denmark in two sets: 3-6, 4-6

Weightlifting

Main article: Weightlifting at the 2000 Summer Olympics

Men

Athlete	Event	Snatch			Clean & Jerk			Total	Rank
		1	2	3	1	2	3
Rudik Petrosyan	– 69 kg	142.5	147.5	150.0	182.5	187.5	192.5	335.0	5
Arsen Melikyan	– 77 kg	162.5	167.5	167.5	197.5	202.5	202.5	365.0
Gagik Khachtryan	– 85 kg	170.0	175.0	180.0	200.0	205.0	210.0	380.0	5
Ashot Danielyan	+ 105 kg	200.0	205.0	207.5	250.0	257.5	262.5	465.0	DSQ

Wrestling

Main article: Wrestling at the 2000 Summer Olympics

Men's Greco-Roman 58 kg

• Karen Mnatsakanyan

• (→ 15th place)

Men's Greco-Roman 63 kg

• Vaghinak Galustyan

• (→ 12th place)

Men's Greco-Roman 76 kg

• Levon Geghamyan

• (→ 18th place)

Men's Greco-Roman 97 kg

• Rafael Samurgashev

• (→ 14th place)

• Khoren Papoyan

• (→ did not compete due to injury)

Men's Greco-Roman 130 kg

• Haykaz Galstyan

• (→ 13th place)

Men's Freestyle 58 kg

• Martin Berberyan

• (→ 6th place)

Men's Freestyle 63 kg

• Arshak Hayrapetyan

• (→ 5th place)

Men's Freestyle 69 kg

• Arayik Gevorkyan

• (→ 7th place)

References

• Wallechinsky, David (2004). The Complete Book of the Summer Olympics (Athens 2004 Edition). Toronto, Canada. ISBN 1-894963-32-6.
• International Olympic Committee (2001). The Results. Retrieved 12 November 2005.
• Sydney Organising Committee for the Olympic Games (2001). Official Report of the XXVII Olympiad Volume 1: Preparing for the Games. Retrieved 20 November 2005.
• Sydney Organising Committee for the Olympic Games (2001). Official Report of the XXVII Olympiad Volume 2: Celebrating the Games. Retrieved 20 November 2005.
• Sydney Organising Committee for the Olympic Games (2001). The Results. Retrieved 20 November 2005.
• International Olympic Committee Web Site
• sports-reference

Armenia at the 2004 Summer Olympics

1 Mamed Aghaev Male 28 Wrestling 2 Gevorg Aleksanyan Male 23 Weightlifting 3 Varduhi Avetisyan Female 18 Swimming 4 Norayr Bakhtamyan Male 33 Shooting 5 Martin Berberyan Male 24 Wrestling 6 Ashot Danielyan Male 30 Weightlifting 7 Haykaz Galstyan Male 26 Wrestling 8 Vaghinak Galstyan Male 30 Wrestling 9 Levon Geghamyan Male 27 Wrestling 10 Arayik Gevorgyan Male 31 Wrestling 11 Armen Ghazaryan Male 22 Weightlifting 12 Marine Ghazaryan Female 18 Athletics 13 Zhirayr Hovhannisyan Male 23 Wrestling 14 Armen Martirosyan Male 35 Athletics 15 Tigran V. Martirosyan Male 21 Weightlifting 16 Aleksan Nalbandyan Male 33 Boxing 17 Armen Nazaryan Male 22 Judo 18 Sargis Sargsyan Male 31 Tennis

Athletics

Main article: Athletics at the 2004 Summer Olympics

Men

Field Events

Athlete	Event	Qualifying		Final
		Result	Rank	Result	Rank
Armen Martirosyan	Triple Jump	15.05	43	Did not advance

Women

Track and Road Events

Athlete	Event	Round 1		Round 2		Semifinal		Final
		Result	Rank	Result	Rank	Result	Rank	Result	Rank
Marine Ghazaryan	100 m	12.29	6	Did not advance

Boxing

Main article: Boxing at the 2004 Summer Olympics

Athlete	Event	Round of 32	Round of 16	Quarterfinals	Semifinals	Final
		Opposition Result	Opposition Result	Opposition Result	Opposition Result	Opposition Result	Rank
Aleksan Nalbandyan	Light-Flyweight	Asloum (FRA) W 27–20	Ali (IRI) W 24–11	Zou (CHN) L 12–20	Did not advance

Judo

Main article: Judo at the 2004 Summer Olympics

Men

Athlete	Event	Round of 32	Round of 16	Quarterfinals	Semifinals	Repechage	Final
		Opposition Result	Opposition Result	Opposition Result	Opposition Result	Opposition Result	Opposition Result	Rank
Armen Nazaryan	60 kg	Lee (BRA) W 0101–0001	Akhondzadeh (IRI) L 0001–0010	Did not advance		Round 1  Cameroun (CMR) L 0000–1000	Did not advance

Shooting

Main article: Shooting at the 2004 Summer Olympics

Men

Athlete	Event	Qualification		Final		Rank
		Score	Rank	Score	Total
Norayr Bakhtamyan	10 m Air Pistol	582	6 Q	99.9	681.9	7
	50 m Pistol	564	4 Q	90.8	654.8	4

Swimming

Main article: Swimming at the 2004 Summer Olympics

Women

Athlete	Event	Heats		Semifinal		Final
		Result	Rank	Result	Rank	Result	Rank
Varduhi Avetisyan	100 m Breaststroke	1:18.87	42	Did not advance

Tennis

Main article: Tennis at the 2004 Summer Olympics

Men

Athlete	Event	Round of 64	Round of 32	Round of 16	Quarterfinals	Semifinals	Final
		Opposition Result	Opposition Result	Opposition Result	Opposition Result	Opposition Result	Opposition Result	Rank
Sargis Sargsian	Singles	Ljubičić (CRO) L 6-3, 6-2	Did not advance

Weightlifting

Main article: Weightlifting at the 2004 Summer Olympics

Men

Athlete	Event	Snatch		Clean & Jerk		Total	Rank
		Result	Rank	Result	Rank
Armen Ghazaryan	62 kg	135	5	160	=4	295	4
Gevorg Aleksanyan	77 kg	162.5	5	DNF	x	DNF	x
Tigran Vardan Martirosyan	85 kg	167.5	=6	200	=5	367.5	7
Ashot Danielyan	+105 kg	DNF	x	DNS	x	DNF	x

Wrestling

Main article: Wrestling at the 2004 Summer Olympics

Athlete	Event	Preliminary Pool	Standing	Quarterfinals	Semifinals	Fifth Place	Third Place	Final
		Opposition Score		Opposition Score	Opposition Score	Opposition Score	Opposition Score	Opposition Score	Rank
Vaghinak Galstyan	Greco-Roman 66 kg	Pool 1  Semenov (BLR) W 2-2  Samuelsson (SWE) L 2-5	3	Did not advance
Levon Geghamyan	Greco-Roman 84 kg	Pool 1  Makaranka (BLR) L 0-3  Minguzzi (ITA) W 11-0	2	Did not advance
Haykaz Galstyan	Greco-Roman 120 kg	Pool 1  Szczepaniak (FRA) L 1-3  Barreno (VEN) W 9-3	2	Did not advance
Martin Berberyan	Freestyle 55 kg	Pool 7  Doğan (TUR) W 5-3  O (PRK) L 2-5  Kardanov (GRE) L 2-3	2	Did not advance
Zhirayr Hovhannisyan	Freestyle 66 kg	Pool 3  Taskoudis (GRE) W 12-6  Kumar (IND) L 3-1	2	Did not advance
Araik Gevorgyan	Freestyle 74 kg	Pool 3  Ackerman (GBR) W 11-0  Laliyev (KAZ) L TO	2	Did not advance
Mahmed Aghaev	Freestyle 84 kg	Pool 5  Danko (UKR) L EV  Yavaşer (TUR) L EV	3	Did not advance

Key:EF — Victory by forfeit, the loser is not classified, E2 — Both wrestlers are disqualified for violation of the rules, EV — Disqualification from all competition for violation of the rules, EX — 3 cautions or violation of the rules, PA — Injury default, TO — Victory by fall

Officials

• President: Ishkhan Zakaryan
• Secretary General: Armen Grigoryan

External links

paulie, shane

http://www.amateur-boxing.strefa.pl/Championships/EuropeanChampionships2006.html

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Gretta Taslakian (born 16 August 1985 in Ghadir, Lebanon) is a Lebanese sprinter of Armenian descent who specializes in the 200 metres. She is the first Lebanese woman to participate in two and three Olympic Games. Gretta is the current Lebanese national record holder in the outdoor 100 meters, 200 meters and 400 meters and indoor 60 meters and 200 meters. She was also a member of the record holding team in the outdoor 4x100 meter relay and 4x400 meter relay.

Biography

She was born on August 16, 1985 in Ghadir, Lebanon to Lebanese-Armenian parents.

Gretta came in second place at the 11th Asian Junior Athletic Championships in the 200 metres.

She competed at the 2001 World Championships, the 2003 World Indoor Championships and the 2004 World Indoor Championships, where she set the indoor 200 meter Lebanese national record at 25.80.

Gretta set a new national record in the women's 200 metres at the 2004 Summer Olympics.

She competed at the 2006 Asian Games in the 200 meters but was eliminated in the first heat.

Taslakian won two gold medals for Lebanon in the 2007 Pan Arab Games in Cairo, Egypt and achieved her personal best in the 200 metres is 23.56 seconds in the final of the 200 meters in November. She also competed at the 2007 World Championships without success.

She competed in the 2008 Summer Olympics representing Lebanon. At the first round of the 200 metres, Gretta ran in a time of 25.32 seconds, which was her season best, but not enough to qualifify to the next round.

Gretta came in eighth place at the 2010 Asian Indoor Athletics Championships in the 60 meters. She also came in fourth place at the 2010 Asian Games in 200 meters and set a new national record in the 100 meters at 11.84.

She also competed at the 2011 Pan Arab Games, winning a silver medal in the 100 metres and a gold medal in the 200 metres.

Taslakian won a silver medal in the 200 metres at the 2011 Asian Athletics Championships.

After competing at the 2012 Summer Olympics, Gretta retired.

Personal life

Gretta married an Armenian man named Robert Kudjavakian in Cyprus.

External links

• Gretta Taslakian at World Athletics

http://www.panarmenian.net/eng/news/133338/ Vardan Zakarian

Sergey Grigoriants Russia Chess

European Individual Chess Championship

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Athletes taking part in the annual May 1 parade in Yerevan's Lenin Square, now known as the Republic Square.

See also: List of Armenian Olympic medalists

Prior to 1992, Armenians would participate in the Olympics representing the USSR. As part of the Soviet Union, Armenia was very successful, winning plenty of medals and helping the USSR win the medal standings at the Olympics on numerous occasions. The first medal won by an Armenian in modern Olympic history was by Hrant Shahinyan (sometimes spelled as Grant Shaginyan), who won two golds and two silvers in gymnastics at the 1952 Summer Olympics in Helsinki. To highlight the level of success of Armenians in the Olympics, Shahinyan was quoted as saying:

“ Armenian sportsmen had to outdo their opponents by several notches for the shot at being accepted into any Soviet team. But those difficulties notwithstanding, 90 percent of Armenian athletes on Soviet Olympic teams came back with medals. ”

Armenia contributed several more notable gymnasts to the powerful Soviet gymnastics team, including world and Olympic champions Albert Azaryan, Eduard Azaryan and Artur Akopyan.

Football

Armenian fans in Dublin, Ireland

Main article: Football in Armenia

Armenia used to play as part of the USSR national football team at the international level. Their most successful team was Yerevan's FC Ararat, which had claimed most of the Soviet championships in the 1970s, and had also gone to post victories against professional clubs like FC Bayern Munich in the Euro Cup. Armenia played as part of the USSR until 1992, when the Armenian national football team played their first official match, representing solely Armenia, against Moldova. The national team is controlled by the Football Federation of Armenia. The Armenian Premier League is the top football competition in Armenia. The league currently consists of eight teams, and relegates to the Armenian First League. Over the years, the league has evolved from a small competition, consisting of only eight teams to two separate divisions. Armenia also has many football venues, such as the Hrazdan Stadium and Hanrapetakan Stadium.

Nikita Simonyan was a member of the Olympic gold medal winning Soviet Union national football team at the 1956 Summer Olympics and a four-time Soviet Top League and two-time Soviet Cup winner playing for FC Spartak Moscow. Simonyan also became the Soviet Top League top goalscorer three times. He also holds the record for most league goals scored for Spartak Moscow at 133. After retiring from football, he became the head coach of Spartak and later became the manager of both Spartak and FC Ararat Yerevan. Both teams won the Soviet Top League under Simonyan's management.

Henrikh Mkhitaryan is the current Vice-Captain of the Armenian national football team and the team's star player. Mkhitaryan has won the Armenian Premier League four times and the Armenian Supercup twice as a player for FC Pyunik. He has also been given the Armenian Footballer of the Year award twice. As of 14 November 2012, Mkhitaryan is the second top goalscorer of all time for the Armenian national team with 10 goals.

Armenia has produced many other world class players, notably Andranik Eskandarian, Andranik Teymourian, Edgar Manucharyan, Yura Movsisyan, Hamlet Mkhitaryan, Arthur Petrosyan, Sargis Hovsepyan, Roman Berezovsky among others.

Youri Djorkaeff and Alain Boghossian were both part of the 1998 FIFA World Cup winning team.

Chess

FIDE World Ranked #2 Levon Aronian

Main article: Chess in Armenia

Chess remains the most popular mind sport in Armenia. It is widely played in Armenia, and in the Armenian diaspora, where the Armenian schools encourage it as a curricular activity. Ethnic Armenian chess players have been very successful on the international chess scene. Notable chess players of Armenia include Tigran Petrosian, Levon Aronian, Rafael Vaganian, Vladimir Akopian, Sergei Movsesian and Gabriel Sargissian. The legendary chess player Garry Kasparov is of Armenian descent.

Armenia has won the European Team Chess Championship in both the men (1999) and women (2003) sections. The 1999 men team was made up of Smbat Lputian, Artashes Minasian, Ashot Anastasian, Levon Aronian and Arshak Petrosian. The 2003 women team was made up of Elina Danielian, Lilit Mkrtchian and Nelly Aginian.

Levon Aronian won the Chess World Cup in 2005.

In 2006, the Armenian Chess Team of Levon Aronian, Vladimir Akopian, Gabriel Sargissian, Karen Asrian, Artashes Minasian, and Smbat Lputian won the Chess Olympiad in Turin. Two years later, Armenia successfully defended their Olympiad title with a second consecutive win in Dresden, the team being made up of Levon Aronian, Vladimir Akopian, Gabriel Sargissian, Tigran L. Petrosian and Artashes Minasian.

Armenia won the World Team Chess Championship in 2011, against the top ten teams of the world, including Russia and China. Members of the Armenian chess team were Levon Aronian, Sergei Movsesian, Vladimir Akopian, Gabriel Sargissian and Robert Hovhannisyan.

The Armenian Chess Team won the Olympiad title for a third time in 2012 at the Istanbul-hosted Chess Olympiad. The team consisted of Levon Aronian, Sergei Movsesian, Vladimir Akopian, Gabriel Sargissian and Tigran L. Petrosian.

Armenia currently ranks 5th on the all-time Chess Olympiad medal table despite only competing since 1992. The nation was also a contributing power to the still #1 ranked Soviet Union. Tigran Petrosian himself is still ranked #1 for the best individual results in the open section.

Wrestling

Main article: Wrestling in Armenia

Wrestling has been a successful sport in the Olympics for Armenia. Half of the twelve Armenian Olympic medalists and were wrestlers. At the 1996 Summer Olympics in Atlanta, Armen Nazaryan won the gold in the Men's Greco-Roman Flyweight (52 kg) category, and Armen Mkrtchyan won the silver in Men's Freestyle Paperweight (48 kg) category, securing Armenia's first two medals in its modern Olympic history.

With Armenia's only gold medalist, Nazaryan, only two silver medalists, Mkrtchyan and Arsen Julfalakyan, and half of entire Olympic medalists being wrestlers, wrestling is Armenia's most successful Olympic sport.

Armenia hosted the 2010 FILA Wrestling World Cup. The Armenian wrestling team came in third place overall and Armenian wrestlers individually won three of the seven gold medals.

Traditional Armenian wrestling is called kokh, and practiced in traditional garb; it was one of the influences included in the Soviet combat sport of sambo, which is also very popular.

Weightlifting

Main article: Weightlifting in Armenia

Weightlifting has also been a successful sport for Armenia in the Olympics, with Arsen Melikyan winning the bronze medal in Men's middleweight (77 kg) category at the 2000 Summer Olympics, which was the independent Republic of Armenia's first Olympic medal in weightlifting. In April 2007, the Armenian national team won the 2007 European Championships in Strasbourg, with 10 gold medals. Nazik Avdalyan and Tigran Gevorg Martirosyan both became World Weightlifting Champions in 2009 and 2010, respectively.

Before the establishment of an independent Armenia, Armenian weightlifters like Yurik Sarkisyan, Oksen Mirzoyan and Yurik Vardanyan competed for the Soviet Union and were very successful. Vardanyan won the gold medal at the 1980 Summer Olympics, becoming the world's first weightlifter to achieve 400 point totals in the 82.5 kg weight category. He earned the title Honoured Master of Sports of the USSR in 1977, and was awarded the Order of Lenin in 1985. Yurik Vardanyan, Yurik Sarkisian and Oksen Mirzoyan set multiple world records during their distinguished careers.

Boxing

Main article: Boxing in Armenia

Boxing is a popular sport in Armenia. The country has regularly sent competitors to the Olympics, but met with little success.

Though Armenia has had little success in amateur boxing, the country has still produced an Olympic medalist, Hrachik Javakhyan, and a World Champion, Nshan Munchyan.

Armenian boxers have had more success in professional boxing. Vic Darchinyan and Arthur Abraham have both won world titles in different weight divisions. Susi Kentikian has also won world titles in women's boxing. Khoren Gevor is a four-time world title challenger. Vanes Martirosyan and Karo Muratyan are both rising contenders.

Rugby union

Main article: Rugby union in Armenia

Rugby union is a growing sport in Armenia. The Armenia national rugby union team has drawn much of its strength from the Armenian diaspora, and the fact that there are many Armenian rugby players in France. It has also drawn strength from the popularity of rugby in neighbouring Georgia.

Other sports

Other sports played in Armenia are ice hockey, played internationally by the Armenian national ice hockey team, basketball (Armenian basketball website), and tennis.

The Armenian national ice hockey team is run by the Ice Hockey Federation of Armenia. They hosted the Division III, Group B tournament of the 2010 World Championships.

Sargis Sargsian is the best tennis player from Armenia. He is a three-time Olympian who won the 1997 Hall of Fame Tennis Championships in singles and the 2003 Citi Open and 2003 BRD Năstase Țiriac Trophy in doubles. Certain members of the Armenian diaspora like Andre Agassi, David Nalbandian and Manuela Maleeva have excelled in the sport.

According to news published at rusbandy.ru, Armenia planned to participate in the World Bandy Championship for the first time in 2011.

Organizations

Homenetmen and AGBU are the two biggest organizations that are devoted to athletics among Armenians. They, notably Homenetmen, have opened chapters all across the globe, wherever an Armenian community is present. Homenetmen organizes the Pan-Homenetmen Games each year, when the organization's members gather in a host city to play friendly matches against each other in various sports such as football, basketball, athletics, ice hockey, and volleyball.

Modern Rebuilding Efforts

The government of Armenia budgets about $2.8 million annually for sports, and gives it to the National Committee of Physical Education and Sports, the body that determines which programs should benefit from the funds.

Due to the lack of success lately on the international level, in recent years, Armenia has rebuilt 16 Soviet-era sports schools and furnished them with new equipment for a total cost of $1.9 million. The rebuilding of the regional schools was financed by the Armenian government. About $9.3 million has been invested in the resort town of Tsaghkadzor to improve the winter sports infrastructure, because of dismal performances at recent winter sports events. In 2005, a cycling center was opened in Yerevan, with the aim of helping produce world class Armenian cyclists. The government has also promised a cash reward of $700,000 to Armenians who win a gold medal at the Olympics. Rector of the Yerevan State Institute of Physical Culture Vahram Arakelian believes that Armenia will produce Olympic champions in 2016, because by that time “the work of new coaches and their influence on their trainees will be seen.”

Armen Nazaryan personal life http://www.panarmenian.net/eng/news/118351/ http://www.visittobulgaria.com/sport/dir.asp?d=0-3-Wrestling-Armen_Nazaryan

Armen Nazaryan (Armenian: Արմեն Նազարյան, born March 9, 1974 in Masis, Armenian SSR, Soviet Union) is an Armenian Greco-Roman wrestler who later represented Bulgaria. Nazaryan is a six-time European champion (1994, 1995 , 1998, 1999, 2002, 2003), a three-time world champion (2002, 2003, 2005) and a two-time Olympic champion (1996, 2000). He was recognized by the FILA as the best fighter of the year in 1998 and 2003. In 2007, Nazaryan was inducted as a member of the FILA Hall of Fame.

Biography

Nazaryan was born on March 9, 1974 in Masis, Armenian SSR. He started wrestling at the age of eight under the coaching of Robert Nersesyan.

In 1993, Nazaryan became a Youth Wrestling World Champion and won a silver medal at the senior 1993 World Wrestling Championships. This marked the debut of Armenia in the FILA Wrestling World Championships. Nazaryan had won the first ever medal for the independent Republic of Armenia at the Wrestling World Championships.

The following year, Nazaryan won a gold medal at the 1994 Wrestling European Championships. Nazaryan became the first Wrestling European Champion from independent Armenia in the country's debut in the FILA Wrestling European Championships. Nazaryan also became a 1993 Youth Wrestling European Champion. Turning 21 in the coming year, Nazaryan would soon become no longer eligible to compete in youth tournaments and competed as a senior from then on.

Nazaryan repeated both the Wrestling European Championships gold medal and Wrestling World Championships silver medal in 1995, the former making him only the second Wrestling European Champion from Armenia. Because of his international success, Nazaryan was eligible to compete at the 1996 Summer Olympics.

Both Armen and his country made their debut at the 1996 Summer Olympics. Already a decorated sportsman, Nazaryan was one of the gold medal favorites of the competition in his weight class. He won a landslide victory in all five fights, defeating reigning Wrestling World Champion Samvel Danielyan (who defeated Nazaryan at the 1995 World Championships final) in the quarterfinals and home country favorite Brandon Paulson in the finals. Nazaryan became an Olympic gold medalist, the first ever Armenian athlete to become an Olympic Champion under the country's flag.

Over a year later, Nazaryan became a citizen of Bulgaria and began participating in international competitions for this country instead of his native Armenia. Many Armenians expressed great disappointment in their only Olympic Champion changing countries. Nazaryan would later state, “I love my country and I have always done the utmost for it. However, after I became an Olympic champion, our government didn’t appreciate me. I was offered to return to Armenia only in 2001, but my demands remained unsatisfied.”

Following the 1996 Olympics, Nazaryan moved up from the flyweight (52 kg) weight class to the heavier featherweight (58 kg) division. Nazaryan became a Wrestling European Champion in 1998 and 1999 in this new weight class. He had, however, been unable to win a Wrestling World Championship, coming in third place at every World Championship leading up to the 2000 Summer Olympics. Nazaryan had also lost his European Championship in 2000, just months before the Olympics that year.

Nazaryan had successfully advanced to the finals at the 2000 Olympics in Sydney, where he faced the larger, taller and reigning Wrestling World Champion Kim In-Sub. In-Sub scored a stand-up takedown (0-3) in less than thirty seconds into the match. Nazaryan quickly got on top of In-Sub and both men were ordered to get up by the referee. A period of inactivity followed, with both wrestlers struggling to overcome the other in the clinch. The referee soon ordered for them to go on the mat, with Nazaryan in the top position. After much effort, Nazaryan successfully lifted In-Sub up overhead and scored a full takedown (5-3). Nazaryan than scored another takedown by lifting up In-Sub and turning him over (6-3) and than scored an exposre (9-3) by pinning In-Sub to the mat and finishing him via fall. Nazaryan had now become a two-time Olympic gold medalist.

After defending his Olympic Championship, Nazaryan moved up in weight again, this time to lightweight (60 kg). Nazaryan had a very successful 2002 and 2003, becoming a Wrestling World Champion and Wrestling European Champion in both years. It had seemed Nazaryan might become one of only a few people to become three-time Olympic Champions in wrestling, but this would not be the case. At the 2004 Summer Olympics, Nazaryan was defeated by eventuall Olympic gold medalist Jung Ji-Hyun in the semifinals. Nazaryan did, however, defeat Aleksey Shevtsov in the bronze medal match to win the Olympic bronze medal, Nazaryan's third and final Olympic medal.

Despite the Olympic upset, Nazaryan managed to win his third Wrestling World Championship gold medal in 2005. Nazaryan next competed at the 2006 Wrestling World Championships, where he was defeated in the first round in a poor performance. Nazaryan made a comeback at the 2008 European Wrestling Championships, where he came in second place, thus qualifiying for the 2008 Summer Olympics. Although he defeated reigning Wrestling World Champion David Berdinadze in the first round, Nazaryan competed without medal success. Nazaryan has not competed since the 2008 Olympics.

After two to three years of inactivity, Nazaryan returned to sports to attempt to qualify for the 2012 Summer Olympics. However, after recieving an injury, Nazaryan was forced to abandon any hopes of returning to the Olympics.

On November 23, 2012, Nazaryan became the head coach of the Bulgarian national Greco-Roman wrestling team. When asked if he wouldn't like to coach the Armenian national Greco-Roman wrestling team, Nazaryan praised the coaching of the Armenian national Greco-Roman wrestling head coach Levon Julfalakyan as doing everything to give good results. Nazaryan also expressed a desire for the Armenian and Bulgarian wrestling teams to practice together.

Personal life

Armen is married to Inga Nazaryan. He has two sons and one daughter.

External links

• Fila Hall of Fame page

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Hi. So, I started working on 'Boxing in Armenia' article. I just noticed that you've written the history of weightlifting in Armenia on your talk page. Should I copy-paste it to the article? Are you done with it?

Also, please check your e-mail. --Երևանցի _{ասելիք կա՞} 21:11, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

Yeah I saw. It looks good. And I don't think that's such a good idea because it will look like I'm trying to cheat my ban. It's not done anyways, I still need to add sources. --TheShadowCrow (talk) 21:15, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

Alright. --Երևանցի _{ասելիք կա՞} 22:46, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

Are Vic Darchinyan and Arthur Abraham the only champions in any of the 4 boxing championships (WBA, WBC, IBF, WBO)?

And do you know from what year to what year and in which weight categories they held those titles?--Երևանցի _{ասելիք կա՞} 22:57, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

Yeah. Unless you include Artur Grigorian, though he's from Uzbekistan. I've seen some sources say he was born in the Artsakh Republic though. Other than him, it's just Darchinyan and Abraham. You also might want to mention Susianna Kentikian.

And World Amateur Boxing Championships are the world champions of amateur boxing. You might want to make two different Content main topics for amateur and professional boxing.

You might also want to add the Boxing World Cup. Andranik Hakobyan won it in 2008. --TheShadowCrow (talk) 23:12, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

I'll do that. But did Darchinyan and Abraham won their titles under the Armenian flag? Are they considered officially Armenian or German and Australian? --Երևանցի _{ասելիք կա՞} 23:20, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

Darchinyan is definitly fighting under the Armenian flag, yes. Abraham I don't know for sure, sources are very varied on that. --TheShadowCrow (talk) 23:35, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

Do you know where can I find the sources the Weightlifting World and European Champions? --Երևանցի _{ասելիք կա՞} 22:40, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

Yup.

http://www.chidlovski.net/liftup/l_worldForm.asp

http://www.chidlovski.net/liftup/l_tournamentForm.asp?tflag=ce

Very good weightlifting site.

Also, I was wondering if you could tell me something.

http://sport.news.am/arm/news/10802/ashkharhi-arajnutyan-erkrord-or-hayastany-medal-chnvatchec.html

http://sport.news.am/arm/news/11022/bronze-medal-ashkharhi-arajnutyunic.html

Do you see any Armenian athletes representing other countries in either of these articles? If you do, who are they?--TheShadowCrow (talk) 23:20, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! In the first article it says " Gevorg Gharibyan (55 kg) of Armenia defeated Russian Harut Sargsyan (who is obviously Armenian).", but it doesn't say what happened to him him later. --Երևանցի _{ասելիք կա՞} 23:32, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

Isn't there someone named Ukrainian Gor Hovhannisyan? --TheShadowCrow (talk) 23:57, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

Gor Hovhannisyan isn't mentioned in those two articles and I also googled his name in Armenian, there doesn't seem to be one.--Երևանցի _{ասելիք կա՞} 01:03, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

Ok then. Thanks. --TheShadowCrow (talk) 01:11, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

Remember you told me that Andranik Hakobyan won the 2008 Boxing World Cup. Do you know what happened to the competition? Did it stop after 2008?--Երևանցի _{ասելիք կա՞} 20:51, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

No idea judging by the template, [6] it doesn't seem to have an annual year and it seems they host it whenever they feel like. --TheShadowCrow (talk) 04:26, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

Now I'm done with User:Yerevanci/Weightlifting in Armenia. After you get unblocked you can add the history to it and it will be all ready to go.--Երևանցի _{ասելիք կա՞} 21:49, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

I'm done with Boxing in Armenia as well. Please take a look at it and see if there's anything to add or fix.--Երևանցի _{ասելիք կա՞} 23:33, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

Alright. There's a few thing's I'd like to add and change, so I'll do that when I can and you tell me if you like the change or not.

Also, I've been looking at websites for Armen Nazaryan (the wrestler) and have been having problems finding out where he was born. Some places say Masis, others say Gyumri. Do you know which is true? --TheShadowCrow (talk) 01:54, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

Sounds good, but make sure you do it before November 29, because I wanna make it a "Did you know" article which requires the article to be nominated in 5 days after its creation. I'm sure Nazaryan was born in Masis. First, because I've heard him speaking and he doesn't speak the Gyumri dialect, which is very easy to point out. Second, the Russian wiki says that some sources mistakenly indicate Gyumri as his birthplace. So, Masis it is.--Երևանցի _{ասելիք կա՞} 02:51, 25 November 2012 (UTC)