User talk:TheSandDoctor/Archives/2021/September

Wikiproject Military history coordinator election nominations open

Nominations for the upcoming project coordinator election are now open. A team of up to ten coordinators will be elected for the next year. The project coordinators are the designated points of contact for issues concerning the project, and are responsible for maintaining our internal structure and processes. They do not, however, have any authority over article content or editor conduct, or any other special powers. More information on being a coordinator is available here. If you are interested in running, please sign up here by 23:59 UTC on 14 September! Voting doesn't commence until 15 September. If you have any questions, you can contact any member of the coord team. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 01:59, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Assistance with Blackstar (album)

Hi SandDoctor! I was wondering if you could help me out with expanding the commercial performance section of Blackstar (album). It's primarily the reason it failed its GAN nom last year and I'm thinking it's finally time to finish it up. The only problem is, writing these sections is my major flaw (since the rest of Bowie's work didn't have much to say in terms of commercial stuff). If you can't or don't want to that's totally fine, but if you have some spare time I'd greatly appreciate it. I'll offer a barnstar and assistance with one of your projects in return. :-) Thanks! – zmbro _(talk) 19:31, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

@Zmbro: sure I’ll help. I don’t know much about Bowie though, admittedly. I’m genuinely surprised that the commercial performance section caused it to fail. I’m on mobile at the moment, but it is nearly as long as Paint It Black…and that’s up for FA status… TheSandDoctor ^Talk 00:56, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

That's what I thought! But nevertheless, I guess it should be similar in length to something like 1989. – zmbro _(talk) 13:40, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

@Zmbro: I've added a couple of sentences and a couple references so far. I think we are getting sort of close to maxing out the available information though. --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 00:47, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Sweet. I really appreciate it! – zmbro _(talk) 12:45, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – September 2021

News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2021).

Administrator changes

Jake Wartenberg

Emperor • Viridian Bovary

Ashleyyoursmile → Viridian Bovary

Guideline and policy news

• Feedback is requested on the Universal Code of Conduct enforcement draft by the Universal Code of Conduct Phase 2 drafting committee.
• A RfC is open on whether to allow administrators to use extended confirmed protection on high-risk templates.
• A discussion is open to decide when, if ever, should discord logs be eligible for removal when posted onwiki (including whether to oversight them)
• A RfC on the next steps after the trial of pending changes on TFAs has resulted in a 30 day trial of automatic semi protection for TFAs.

Technical news

• The Score extension has been re-enabled on public wikis. It has been updated, but has been placed in safe mode to address unresolved security issues. Further information on the security issues can be found on the mediawiki page.

Arbitration

• A request for comment is in progress to provide an opportunity to amend the structure, rules, and procedures of the Arbitration Committee election and resolve any issues not covered by existing rules. Comments and new proposals are welcome.

Miscellaneous

• The 2021 RfA review is now open for comments.

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The Special Barnstar

		The Special Barnstar
		As my token of appreciation for your additions to the commercial performance section of Blackstar (album), I just wanted to say thank you. Here's a barnstar! – zmbro (talk) 21:16, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

Thank you, @Zmbro:! I will leave the review to someone else, but if you run into any issues with it and that section, please drop me a note. --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 21:49, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

Will do. Thanks again! – zmbro _(talk) 21:50, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

TweetCiteBot

Hi again ...

I just fixed[1] a bare url tweet ref to https://mobile.twitter.com/strandbookstore/status/1319686649798905856

Just wondering: does TweetCiteBot handle mobile.twitter.com?

Sorry if I had asked before somewhere. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 09:18, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

@BrownHairedGirl: Support added. Can we run a test on this in your sandbox? I prefer real world over just simulated. --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 17:58, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

Sure, testing is good.

The current version of User:BrownHairedGirl/sandbox99 (permalink) has a selection of balanenae ballistariae to test the bot. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 23:49, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

@BrownHairedGirl: Looks like it does it masterfully Special:Diff/1042430118 --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 23:54, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

Yes, that's perfect. More great work -- the balanenae ballistariae all landed safely.

Time to let the bot roll. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 23:58, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

@BrownHairedGirl: Rolling. I tend to do it in shorter bursts at the moment as actively tweaking, but will eventually make it a task that just runs on a timer. --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 00:01, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

That sounds like a good approach. I do something similar with big tasks; start with small chunks, closely monitored, then speed up as I gain confidence in having catered for most of the exceptions. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 00:23, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

Another unrelated problem with the bot I noticed: It should strip line feeds from tweets, or otherwise it produces a citation error. One example is Special:Diff/1042445736 * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 01:44, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

Request for your feedback

With Dylan-esque notions, as well as voice, and a Pavement co-sign, kind of, I think you'd like the work of David Berman. And our article on him is pretty good - but it could be better. I've opened up a peer review, preceding FAC. I'd be happy for you to issue your opinion. There's a particular issue I have with the in-line citations, similar to one found with A Crow Looked at Me; there's more blue than a Massachusetts polling station. I reckon a citation change is best - curious of your and other's opinion, if it's an opportune time. Thank's all the same. DMT Biscuit (talk) 21:09, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

Wikiproject Military history coordinator election nomination period closing soon

Nominations for the upcoming project coordinator election are still open, but not for long. A team of up to ten coordinators will be elected for the next year. The project coordinators are the designated points of contact for issues concerning the project, and are responsible for maintaining our internal structure and processes. They do not, however, have any authority over article content or editor conduct, or any other special powers. More information on being a coordinator is available here. If you are interested in running, please sign up here by 23:59 UTC on 14 September! No further nominations will be accepted after that time. Voting will commence on 15 September. If you have any questions, you can contact any member of the current coord team. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 02:43, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-37

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• 45 new Wikipedias now have access to the Growth features. [2]
• A majority of Wikipedias now have access to the Growth features. The Growth team has published an FAQ page about the features. This translatable FAQ covers the description of the features, how to use them, how to change the configuration, and more.

Problems

• All wikis will be read-only for a few minutes on 14 September. This is planned at 14:00 UTC. [3]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 14 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 15 September. It will be on all wikis from 16 September (calendar).
• Starting this week, Wikipedia in Italian will receive weekly software updates on Wednesdays. It used to receive the updates on Thursdays. Due to this change, bugs will be noticed and fixed sooner. [4]
• You can add language links in the sidebar in the new Vector skin again. You do this by connecting the page to a Wikidata item. The new Vector skin has moved the language links but the new language selector cannot add language links yet. [5]
• The syntax highlight tool marks up code with different colours. It now can highlight 23 new code languages. Additionally, golang can now be used as an alias for the Go programming language, and a special output mode has been added to show a program's output. [6][7]

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15:32, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-36

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• The wikis that have Growth features deployed have been part of A/B testing since deployment, in which some newcomers did not receive the new features. Now, all of the newcomers on 21 of the smallest of those wikis will be receiving the features. [8]

Changes later this week

• There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

Future changes

• In 2017, the provided jQuery library was upgraded from version 1 to 3, with a compatibility layer. The migration will soon finish, to make the site load faster for everyone. If you maintain a gadget or user script, check if you have any JQMIGRATE errors and fix them, or they will break. [9][10]
• Last year, the Portuguese Wikipedia community embarked on an experiment to make log-in compulsory for editing.  The impact report of this trial is ready. Moving forward, the Anti-Harassment Tools team is looking for projects that are willing to experiment with restricting IP editing on their wiki for a short-term experiment. Learn more.

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15:19, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

1989 (Taylor Swift album) scheduled for TFA

This is to let you know that the 1989 (Taylor Swift album) article has been scheduled as today's featured article for October 27, 2021. Please check the article needs no amendments. If you're interested in editing the main page text, you're welcome to do so at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/October 27, 2021, but note that a coordinator will trim the lead to around 1000 characters anyway, so you aren't obliged to do so.

For Featured Articles promoted recently, there will be an existing blurb linked from the FAC talk page, which is likely to be transferred to the TFA page by a coordinator at some point.

We suggest that you watchlist Wikipedia:Main Page/Errors from the day before this appears on Main Page. Thanks! Jimfbleak - talk to me? 09:57, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

Tweetbot issue

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hiroyuki_Takei&diff=prev&oldid=1041209593

Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 00:18, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

@Headbomb: Thanks for reporting this. That was a known issue caused by the library used to truncate strings that apparently can't handle non-Latin alphabets. I have since removed the truncation so that it won't happen again. Currently, the bot is down while figuring out some issues about why it isn't editing. --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 00:31, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

@Headbomb and BrownHairedGirl: I actually just resolved that issue I mentioned. The Twitter api I am using seems to limit tweets to 140 characters though, so I have updated the comment the bot now leaves to reflect this. --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 00:51, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

This is all great progress. Thanks!

One issue: can the bot handle bare URL tweet refs which have been tagged with {{Bare URL inline}}?

e.g. <ref>https://twitter.com/MallowNews/status/1432810484454109185 {{Bare URL inline|date=September 2021}}</ref>

I have a test page at User:BrownHairedGirl/sandbox99; pls feel free to let the bot have at it. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 01:10, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

@BrownHairedGirl: How's this? Basically it can be in any case and have any number of spaces between the tweet ID and the opening curly bracket. Any other variations though and it won't see it. --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 03:20, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

That diff is great to see. The bot even handled the one with zero spaces between the tweet ID and the opening curly bracket; I did that deliberately, but I think it is a broken format.

In theory, the bot should also handle the redirects to {{Bare URL inline}}, but in practice those are so rare that I think the extra complexity can be skipped. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 07:30, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

@BrownHairedGirl: I am glad that it is to your satisfaction! I could add the redirects, but regular expressions get complicated and hard to read rather quickly. If it becomes a problem down the road, support can be added though. --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 21:51, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

I agree. Best to avoid the complexity unless it turns out to be needed ... and in this case I doubt it is needed, 'cos nearly all the {{Bare URL inline}} tags in use were added by me using the canonical form. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 23:05, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

@BrownHairedGirl: Incorporated and now running. --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 05:19, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

TweetCite Bot and line feed characters

Hi, I noticed on HMS Diamond (D34) that TweetCite Bot, after converting a citation to use Template:Cite tweet, caused a line feed CS1 error. I'm sure this is by design (text-source integrity and whatnot), but Help:CS1 errors#invisible char says it should be replaced with a regular space. Is there a way to do this automatically? INDT (talk) 06:47, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

@INDT: Hi there! Thank you for reporting this. This was also mentioned 2 sections up by @Pppery:. Upon that initial report, I shut down the bot and will work to remove new lines before it runs again. --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 07:01, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

@TheSandDoctor: Oops, didn't see that. Another error though, citation 34 on Before You Exit has the date off by around 3 years, which feels pretty significant. I'm fixing it, but I felt I should bring it to your attention first. INDT (talk) 07:07, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

@INDT and Pppery: Line feed issue resolved. INDT -- the tweet you brought up already had that issue present in its citation prior to the bot touching the page, so it isn't anything to do with what TweetCiteBot did. TCB only looks up tweet dates if there isn't a parameter for the date present, so in this case it just used the value already there (which happened to be incorrect). --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 07:15, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

What's the news on TweetCiteBot? I see that it has not edited since 6 September. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:02, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

@BrownHairedGirl: Haven't had the time and need to set it up as an automated script as I think it is far enough along. So far, I've just been running it off of my laptop. Started it up again for a bit. --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 18:54, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

@BrownHairedGirl: It actually completed the full run, knocking around a thousand off. What do you think the behaviour should be for URLs that end in "/photo/1"? Ignore that portion of the URL? --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 21:47, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

Hey, another thousand is great work. Every one fixed is one item less on the lists of bare URLs which I process, so I am delighted to see such progress.

As to the URLs that end in "/photo/1", am I right in thinking that the "/photo/1" actually makes no difference to what is displayed when the link is followed? If so, then definitely drop it. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 21:55, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

@BrownHairedGirl: It enlarges the photo attached to the tweet. Dropping it would still give you the same tweet, just show its text too vs just the photo. Random example vs its normal form. --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 22:05, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

That example should work but apparently doesn't. To replicate, just click on the image haha. --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 22:07, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

No prob, I get the idea.

I reckon that if someone wants to expand the pic, they can do so. No need to put them duirectly in that state. So I say drop it. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 23:35, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

WikiProject Military history coordinator election voting has commenced

Hey y'all, voting for the 2021 Wikiproject Military history coordinator tranche is now open. This is a simple approval vote; only "support" votes should be made. Project members should vote for any candidates they support by 23:59 (UTC) on 28 September 2021. Voting will be conducted at the 2021 tranche page itself. Appropriate questions for the candidates can also be asked. Thanks, MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 04:40, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

New Page Patrol newsletter September 2021

New Page Review queue September 2021

Hello TheSandDoctor/Archives/2021,

Please join this discussion - there is increase in the abuse of Wikipedia and its processes by POV pushers, Paid Editors, and by holders of various user rights including Autopatrolled. Even our review systems themselves at AfC and NPR have been infiltrated. The good news is that detection is improving, but the downside is that it creates the need for a huge clean up - which of course adds to backlogs.

Copyright violations are also a serious issue. Most non-regular contributors do not understand why, and most of our Reviewers are not experts on copyright law - and can't be expected to be, but there is excellent, easy-to-follow advice on COPYVIO detection here.

At the time of the last newsletter (#25, December 2020) the backlog was only just over 2,000 articles. New Page Review is an official system. It's the only firewall against the inclusion of new, improper pages.

There are currently 706 New Page Reviewers plus a further 1,080 admins, but as much as nearly 90% of the patrolling is still being done by around only the 20 or so most regular patrollers.

If you are no longer very active on Wikipedia or you no longer wish to be part of the New Page Reviewer user group, please consider asking any admin to remove you from the list. This will enable NPP to have a better overview of its performance and what improvements need to be made to the process or its software.

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Better source needed?

Why is this cite tagged with "better source needed"? [11] This cite is used to support a statement made by the author of the tweet. GA-RT-22 (talk) 03:15, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

@GA-RT-22: Per the diff you linked, that wasn't something that TweetCiteBot did and that existed beforehand. TCB only converts URLs and makes no judgement calls whatsoever on refs. --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 04:00, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

Oops, must work on my reading comprehension. Sorry to bother you. GA-RT-22 (talk) 14:38, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

Promotion of Paint It Black

Congratulations, TheSandDoctor! The article you nominated, Paint It Black, has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best articles on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.

This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may nominate it to appear on the Main page as Today's featured article. Keep up the great work! Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) via FACBot (talk) 12:07, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

@Ian Rose: Thank you! This is my first solo nomination to pass FAC. I am definitely proud of this accomplishment! I also took a look last night and discovered that it is only the second Stones related article to make it to FA...I've got some more work to do! . --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 15:12, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

Congrats, and...

Hey there. Congrats on getting "Paint It Black" up to FA status. I apologize for not getting around to reviewing it like I had promised; things have been a little busy for me. But enough with excuses! Let me know when you submit "Tumbling Dice" and I'll be happy to review this around. Cheers. Tkbrett (✉) 15:04, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

Thank you, Tkbrett! Don't worry about being unable to review, life happens. Tumbling Dice is currently undergoing a PR, feel free to comment (or not, totally cool either way) if you want. I will let you know when it goes up for FAC, but that will probably be closer to the new year; currently have Red (Taylor Swift album) set to FAC the moment the GOCE is completed. I will nominate Tumblin' for a GOCE as soon as the PR is closed (which could be soon if it stays stale). --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 15:09, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

Taylor Swift article

Hello, I noticed that you are an active contributor at Red (Taylor Swift album). If you are interested, would you mind me joining in to help with the article's future FAC if possible? I am also working on several Taylor Swift-related articles, including a current FAC of I Knew You Were Trouble, and thinking that it may be great to collaborate on some articles. Feel free to ignore if this message bothers you. Pardon my lurking, and have a great day! Ippantekina (talk) 04:07, 28 August 2021 (UTC)

@Ippantekina: I've requested a GOCE copyedit on it and have plans to take it to FAC once that is done as well haha. I've been working on it for some time now. Definitely happy to team up on FACs though.--TheSandDoctor ^Talk 04:10, 28 August 2021 (UTC)

@Ippantekina: Do you have any in mind you'd like to collaborate on? --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 19:24, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

Whoops, sorry for the late reply :P I was thinking maybe album articles like Reputation (Taylor Swift album) or Lover (album)? It'd be great to see her discography getting quality articles. I wonder if you're particularly into the newer Taylor Swift stuff though :P Ippantekina (talk) 10:22, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

@Ippantekina: All good! That sounds good to me. Evermore and Folklore I'd also add to that list. --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 15:33, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

Cool! Oh and btw... I wonder if you could leave some comments at my current FAC for I Knew You Were Trouble? It's been open for quite a while and the progress is rather sluggish atm.. Thank you very much in advance :P And I hope you're having a good week ahead :) Ippantekina (talk) 15:40, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

@Ippantekina: It needs a source review by the looks of things. I’d recommend requesting one. See the most recent FAC nomination page for Paint It Black for the link. I forget it offhand. —TheSandDoctor (mobile) (talk) 18:35, 20 September 2021 (UTC) TheSandDoctor (mobile) (talk) 18:35, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

Possible mistake with TweetCiteBot

Per this edit, the bot "corrected" a ref which was commented out, which also broke the commenting and the format of the table it was in. Should the bot not ignore commented out code? --SuperJew (talk) 10:07, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

@SuperJew: The way it works and is able to function does not have a way to know if contents are commented out and adding that would be extremely complex and fraught with issues. What I could do is move the comment that it leaves to another page (linking in edit summary) so that it wouldn't matter, but the downside of that is that it would require editors to actually see the specific edit summary to know what is going on, which could potentially be buried in page history. --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 14:05, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for pinging me on this.

I agree that filtering for commented-out markup is too complex and error-prone. Best avoided, per the KISS principle.

That means that moving the solution has to be to move TweetCiteBot's comment to the edit summary, or to a page linked in the editsum.

I agree that thus is less helpful to future editors of the article, and it's frustrating to have to degrade the bot's output in all cases just to accommodate a formatting issue which probably applies to less than 1% of cases. But there we are. Nobody's fault, just how it is.

To slightly offset the loss of info to future editors of the article, how about adding a pseudo-parameter to the bot's output: |bot=TweetCiteBot? That does at least convey that a bot was involved, albeit without the explanation of why this is significant. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:30, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

@BrownHairedGirl and SuperJew: Done and run completed for all /photo/#. WP:TCBE (a redirect to User:TweetCiteBot/explain) added to summaries. An example. --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 15:37, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

Prompt work!

Out of curiosity, why did you decide against using |bot=TweetCiteBot? --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 15:46, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

@BrownHairedGirl: I forgot to include it. Will add for future. --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 15:53, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

Fair enough --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 15:54, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

@BrownHairedGirl: I was just looking...wouldn't that mean that every edit it made would show up in Category:Cite tweet templates with errors? That would be a less than optimal outcome. --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 15:55, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

Good point. I just assumed it would be okay, which was lazy and silly of me.

So I tested |bot=TweetCiteBot on the latest version of User:BrownHairedGirl/sandbox99, and it shows no problems.

Just in case there was some no-report-that-error-on-a-user-sandbox feature in {{Cite tweet}}, I tested on a live article: this edit to Leabhar Branach. That also shows no errors.

If you feel like modding the bot to do this, I think it would be helpful to future editors of the page. (If you prefer to leave it, I understand).

And if you are really into doing extra polishing work to accommodate a pedant, please could you also add a space before each | symbol that marks the start of a parameter? It makes the markup much easier to read, and helps wrapping of lines. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 20:05, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

@BrownHairedGirl: Done on both counts. How does this look? --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 01:38, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

Many thanks. That looks good except for the lack of a space before the first param.

Currently showing {{cite tweet|number=1430535383549452290

Should be {{cite tweet |number=1430535383549452290 --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 08:31, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

Thanks so much for the explanations and updates! I agree that it's an end case and I only noticed it as it happened to affect a page I follow. Interesting to note that it's hard for a bot to ignore commented-out code. --SuperJew (talk) 18:46, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

@BrownHairedGirl: Done. You're welcome for the updates, SuperJew! --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 18:19, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

That's great.

Any chance that the bot could now be let loose on some big batches? --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 18:38, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

@BrownHairedGirl: I've already ran it through the full list twice. It appears a lot of them have more info than just the tweet URL or the tweet URL is a deadlink, which is annoying. --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 18:40, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

Great progress .. but are you sure you got 'em all?

I found one or two today in my bare URL cleanup, so I just did a search for insource:/\<ref[^\>]*\> *\[? *https?:\/\/(mobile\.)?twitter\.com/[^\/\>]*\/status\/\d\d/].

That gave 779 hits, some of which have the annoying filled-with-whatever thing of <ref>[https://twitter.com/foo/status/123 Hello world]</ref>, but others are not.

e.g. Punk'd (permalink) contains <ref name="twitter.com">https://twitter.com/wearepunkd/status/338431618148622336</ref>. The tweet is live https://twitter.com/wearepunkd/status/338431618148622336. Shouldn't the bot have converted that? --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 19:22, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

@BrownHairedGirl: No, because it has a reference name. That behaviour wasn't added; I can try, but things can get finicky really quick when trying to accommodate humans and code and regular expressions are stupid greedy. Telling it to select anything between quotes will often times lead to it selecting half the page and wiping it out. Currently working on trying to get the placement right for adding deadlink templates to dead links. --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 20:52, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

I have found that ref tags are easy to match safely with regexes. Don't worry about quote marks; just match the angle brackets. An opening ref tag is always matched by <ref\b[^\>]*\> --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 21:28, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

Triple Crown

Congratulations to TheSandDoctor, who is hereby awarded a Triple Crown for their outstanding contributions. Your work is apprecaited. Damien Linnane (talk) 13:06, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-38

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• Growth features are now deployed to almost all Wikipedias. For the majority of small Wikipedias, the features are only available for experienced users, to test the features and configure them. Features will be available for newcomers starting on 20 September 2021.
• MediaWiki had a feature that would highlight local links to short articles in a different style. Each user could pick the size at which "stubs" would be highlighted. This feature was very bad for performance, and following a consultation, has been removed. [12]
• A technical change was made to the MonoBook skin to allow for easier maintenance and upkeep. This has resulted in some minor changes to HTML that make MonoBook's HTML consistent with other skins. Efforts have been made to minimize the impact on editors, but please ping Jon (WMF) on wiki or in phabricator if any problems are reported.

Problems

• There was a problem with search last week. Many search requests did not work for 2 hours because of an accidental restart of the search servers. [13]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 21 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 22 September. It will be on all wikis from 23 September (calendar).
• The meta=proofreadpage API has changed. The piprop parameter has been renamed to prpiprop. API users should update their code to avoid unrecognized parameter warnings. Pywikibot users should upgrade to 6.6.0. [14]

Future changes

• The Reply tool will be deployed to the remaining wikis in the coming weeks. It is currently part of "Discussion tools" in Beta features at most wikis. You will be able to turn it off in Editing Preferences. [15]
• The previously announced change to how you obtain tokens from the API has been delayed to September 21 because of an incompatibility with Pywikibot. Bot operators using Pywikibot can follow T291202 for progress on a fix, and should plan to upgrade to 6.6.1 when it is released.

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18:30, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

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GTA IV

Hey there - don't know if you're still working on pushing GTA IV to Featured status, but if so, would love to jump in and work on it with you. --Next-Genn-Gamer 08:21, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

@Next-Genn-Gamer: Hi there! My apologies for the delay. I'd love to team up on that, sure! Where shall we start? --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 03:06, 24 September 2021 (UTC)

@Mr. Wick: ^ --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 04:42, 25 September 2021 (UTC)

Wikiproject Military history coordinator election voting period closing soon

Hey y'all, voting for the 2021 Wikiproject Military history coordinator tranche will be closing soon. This is a simple approval vote; only "support" votes should be made. Project members should vote for any candidates they support by 23:59 (UTC) on 28 September 2021. Voting will be conducted at the 2021 tranche page itself. Thanks, MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 02:34, 26 September 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-39

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• iOS 15 has a new function called Private Relay (Apple website). This can hide the user's IP when they use Safari browser. This is like using a VPN in that we see another IP address instead. It is opt-in and only for those who pay extra for iCloud. It will come to Safari users on OSX later. There is a technical discussion about what this means for the Wikimedia wikis.

Problems

• Some gadgets and user-scripts add items to the portlets (article tools) part of the skin. A recent change to the HTML may have made those links a different font-size. This can be fixed by adding the CSS class .vector-menu-dropdown-noicon. [16]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 28 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 29 September. It will be on all wikis from 30 September (calendar).
• The GettingStarted extension was built in 2013, and provides an onboarding process for new account holders in a few versions of Wikipedia. However, the recently developed Growth features provide a better onboarding experience. Since the vast majority of Wikipedias now have access to the Growth features, GettingStarted will be deactivated starting on 4 October. [17]
• A small number of users will not be able to connect to the Wikimedia wikis after 30 September. This is because an old root certificate will no longer work. They will also have problems with many other websites. Users who have updated their software in the last five years are unlikely to have problems. Users in Europe, Africa and Asia are less likely to have immediate problems even if their software is too old. You can read more.
• You can receive notifications when someone leaves a comment on user talk page or mentions you in a talk page comment. Clicking the notification link will now bring you to the comment and highlight it. Previously, doing so brought you to the top of the section that contained the comment. You can find more information in T282029.

Future changes

• The Reply tool will be deployed to the remaining wikis in the coming weeks. It is currently part of "Discussion tools" in Beta features at most wikis. You will be able to turn it off in Editing Preferences. See the list of wikis. [18]

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22:20, 27 September 2021 (UTC)

East Broadway (Manhattan)

I noticed you recently made an edit to East Broadway (Manhattan). Would you have a moment to look again at that article? I recently trimmed the section about the "East Broadway Mall", and then had it reverted. That section seems excessive and out-of-scope, as the article is about a street (not a mall). Thanks! Magnolia677 (talk) 09:59, 28 September 2021 (UTC)

@Magnolia677: Restored. I didn't know that the IP had added that as I was primarily trying to remove the deprecated reference known for publishing falsehoods. --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 02:28, 29 September 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Good Time Women

On 30 September 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Good Time Women, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that The Rolling Stones' single "Good Time Women", released in 2010, formed the basis for their 1972 hit single "Tumbling Dice"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Good Time Women. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Good Time Women), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 00:03, 30 September 2021 (UTC)