User talk:Taking Out The Trash/Archive 4

Stan Fortuna

Thank you very much for extending a warm welcome and allowing me the opportunity to learn from my mistakes. However, I do not understand why the changes were reverted in this case, as I added a few links myself to keep the article up to date and removed uncited information. Your help would be appreciated. JJoestar90 (talk) 01:29, 17 September 2023 (UTC)

about Giuseppe De Rosa

Good morning from Calabria, I am writing to say hello and know how you are. I'm all right, I was wondering if you could help me on the page in question, it's true, my English is not perfect, but I wish this page had the honor like the others. I have inserted the missing sources, could you kindly take care of the rest? I thank you in advance and I hope to hear from you soon, in the meantime have a good day. Luigi Salvatore Vadacchino (talk) 06:04, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

Since the page now has a source, the deletion tag can be removed by you or anyone else. Taking Out The Trash (talk) 21:15, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

Draft: Finnish American Reporter

Hi! Thanks for reviewing my draft of Finnish American Reporter. I appreciate your eyes on it, especially since it is my first article. Also, love your account approach to "taking out the trash" -- an important role! Helvishmelvi (talk) 15:06, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

Rejected Draft: Rachel Cline

Hi and thanks for your quick review of my proposed page. I understand that writiing about oneself is strongly discouraged. I have taken this step only because I realized (after writing an obit for a close friend who recently died) that I am every bit as notable as many of my peers among novelists (and in particular, novelists who went to Oberlin College and are mentioned under Literature on : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Oberlin_College_and_Conservatory_people.). Waiting for someone else to nominate me has not been a successful strategy--my first novel was published in 2004 when I was 47 years old. I have disclosed the potential conflict and I feel certain that if you take a closer look at what I wrote, you will find that it is factual, informative, and meets the criteria for notability. I ask you to please reconsider. Thank you RachelClineWriter (talk) 00:27, 24 July 2023 (UTC)RachelClineWriter

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/No Mafia (2nd nomination)

Hello, Taking Out The Trash,

Please review Wikipedia:Non-admin closure#Articles for deletion for guidance on when it is okay for a non-admin to close a deletion discussion. This was not a good example of a discussion for an non-admin to close because you closed it early and it was a deletion closure which non-admins can't carry out.

Typically, NACs are for discussions that close as Keep, Redirect and Merge, not Delete (which you can't do) or No Consensus (which might be close calls). Thank you. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 18:37, 26 July 2023 (UTC)

Yeah, probably not a good candidate for NAC. Valereee (talk) 20:45, 28 July 2023 (UTC)

I was under the impression that {{db-xfd}} could be used for WP:SNOW delete cases like this one to allow for non-admin closures in such blatantly obvious circumstances. Especially because IIRC experience with XFD is one of the things many people look for and judge candidates on at RFA. But if I'm mistaken, so be it. I won't engage in that area anymore. Taking Out The Trash (talk) 00:01, 29 July 2023 (UTC)

Possible COI on a draft you accepted

Metanoia (2021 short film) was possibly created by the producer of the film, Ariel Lavi, in violation of WP:COI. See Ariel 189's other drafts, which are also films produced by Mr. Ariel Lavi: Draft:Dangerous Silence (2022 short film) and Draft:A Brush With Death (2022 short film). 〜 Festucalex • talk 09:30, 29 July 2023 (UTC)

If you feel the page should be re-draftified, please feel free. Taking Out The Trash (talk) 13:16, 29 July 2023 (UTC)

@Taking Out The Trash: I don't exactly know what to do in this situation. I think the editor in question has denied it, but I'm not sure if I believe that. 〜 Festucalex • talk 14:04, 29 July 2023 (UTC)

COI itself isn't a valid reason to delete an article, unless the article is promotional, which Metanoia isn't (at least not explicitly so). So unless you or another reviewer feel the need to re-draftify it, I think it's best left where it is with the appropriate tags on it. Taking Out The Trash (talk) 11:17, 30 July 2023 (UTC)

Jay Goldstein Article Hijacking

Hello, my apologies, but article hijacking was not my intent.

The name Jay Goldstein automatically redirects to the New York divorce coercion gang article. However, there was another with the same name who was a published researcher and clinician from California. I am relatively new to editing articles, so I am not sure how to separate the two. My intention was not to hijack the original redirect. Vajradhari (talk) 15:14, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

Rejected: Yugoslav Weapons of Mass destruction

You said my Wikipedia draft submission had "personal opinions" in it, where so? link to draft: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Yugoslavia_and_Weapons_of_mass_destruction AshtonWest032 (talk) 14:33, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

The issue is the layout/format. Right now it reads like an essay or a transcript of a presentation that one would give in a group setting. Encyclopedia articles are formatted differently than essays, and are expected to have a certain tone or "feel" to them when being read. Wikipedia articles shouldn't read like the draft or abstract of an academic paper, which to me the submission currently does. See WP:MOS and WP:TONE for more information. Taking Out The Trash (talk) 14:43, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

My approach to trolls

I see we've bumped into each other in editing an IP's talk page [1]. I won't edit there any further, so I leave you to curate the page as you see fit; but I wanted to share my approach to handling trolls, outlined in my mini-essay at Snipe hunting the troll. I believe it's best to give trolls the benefit of the doubt, and deleting "innocent" comment (disingenuous or not) makes it appear as though they haven't responded, and could be construed as an attempt to suppress discussion. I realise some trolls use "Sea Lioning" to protract debate, but that the correct response is to simply ignore it. I appreciate, though, that this leaves the trolling out there seducing a response. More than once I've face-palmed when I see another editor respond, just drawing out the game for the troll. So again, just wanted to give you some other perspectives on trolls. I leave the IP talk page to the rest of the community now. Cheers. _signed, Willondon (talk) 17:06, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

Bug to report

I have constantly clicked on this notification: "You have new messages from 2 users (last changes)." and the notification won't go away, its stuck on my end and won't go.

Can you try to fix the notification issue? 118.208.118.228 (talk) 06:40, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

Trouble creating a page

There is a name on a pre-existing wikipedia page that I was going to try and make, but for some reason I cant do it. She does have references online, and there is a pre-existing mention on a different page so in red. I don't know if i'm doing it wrong. It's "elly Hunter Smith" mentioned in personal life here Claire Barnett-Jones, she's called Elly hunter smith.

Thanks for any help, or if someone else can do it, maye I should give up. I've only ever fixed grammar across a couple of accounts, or added information, so not sure if it's my lack of experience. I was only doing a small bit of information to just add the reference maybe? Thanks so much Limew78 (talk) 17:49, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

New page patrol October 2023 Backlog drive

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MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 09:14, 9 September 2023 (UTC)

I'm confused why won't my edit publish? Sandi0000 (talk) 00:44, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

As per your recommendation, cannot merge

Please see here: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Stop_The_Metro&oldid=1164357834 and here: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Proposed_expansion_of_the_Buffalo_Metro_Rail&action=history Rolf716 (talk) 14:07, 16 September 2023 (UTC)

Request on 13:39:13, 19 September 2023 for assistance on AfC submission by Botswana99

• Botswana99 (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Data Journey (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

I would like to edit my 'Data journey' wikipedia page to remove the copyright violations.

Botswana99 (talk) 13:39, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

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MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:46, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

Rejected: Ray Anderson (athletic director)

I saw that you rejected a few edits made to this page, and I'd like to better understand as (1) the current article includes inaccurate information and incomplete or missing biographical data (2) subjective bias and lack of sourcing.

How am I able to update these areas? 66.108.104.126 (talk) 18:39, 29 September 2023 (UTC)

The edits you made were extremely promotional. Wikipedia is not the place to boast about one's "great accomplishments". Taking Out The Trash (talk) 04:19, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

I agree that a few elements potentially felt promotional. That said, many of the adjusted edits were factual and biographical vs. promotional. I will revise accordingly, and appreciate your moderation.

However, there are also current parts of the existing entry that should be met with the same critical eye. For example, language such as "Although he had some success as an athletic director." According to who? If you factually review the scope of work, amount of sports positively impacted by his tenure, success is significant vs. how it is presented here. Wikipedia is also not the place for biased language such as this. 2603:7000:8A00:1B63:7424:1982:469A:89B9 (talk) 13:29, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

about Draft:Tomas Laurenzo

Thank you for your review. I've rewritten the page into a wikipedia-like article. Please check it out. Thanks! Wikicreator98 (talk) 07:29, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

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NPP actions

Can you please configure twinkle to not mark pages as patrolled when adding CSD tags. See Wikipedia:New page patrol#Other speedy deletion criteria (Do not mark pages as reviewed after you tag them for speedy deletion). * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 16:50, 5 November 2023 (UTC)

 Done Taking Out The Trash (talk) 16:59, 5 November 2023 (UTC)

Draftification

Hello, Taking Out The Trash,

Please use a script like User:MPGuy2824/MoveToDraft when draftifying articles so that a message is left for the content creator on their talk page, informing them that their article is now in Draft space. It's an important step in the process. Thank you. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:23, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

A1 on Despicable Me: Minion Rush

Hey Taking Out The Trash -- Just a reminder always to look at the edit history; restoring the original redirect is usually the way to go with this kind of thing. Cheers, Espresso Addict (talk) 01:17, 11 November 2023 (UTC)

Trout

Whack! You've been whacked with a wet trout. Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly.

Self-trouting for a Twinkle misclick resulting in me asking for the Main Page to be deleted as vandalism. Now I just can't stop laughing! Taking Out The Trash (talk) 01:12, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Barnstar of Good Humor
	The deletion nom got me cracking up. Also, when are you turning this blue? The 🏎 Corvette 🏍 ZR1(The Garage) 01:46, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

I would love to turn that link blue, but unfortunately the community has said that they'd rather me not. Taking Out The Trash (talk) 02:32, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

Bit late, but thank you for trying to take out the trash that is the Main Page. Queen of Hearts ❤️ (no relation) 02:01, 27 November 2023 (UTC)