Hello Taeda. Thank you for that excellent remark about men in the non-west. Please remember to put your tildes like this: (Masculinity (talk) 18:45, 22 March 2008 (UTC)) in order to sign off.Reply

I will need some help to restructure the article on gay to include the various disputes the concept has. (Masculinity (talk) 18:45, 22 March 2008 (UTC))Reply

Hi there. I think I'm pretty bad at doing this diplomatically. I have a suggestion. There's DenZ and there's you. Plus there are other sympathetic voices, like Aristophanes. I suggest, You and DenZ take it forward from here, while I'll support you guys without being too much in the forefront. I'll concentrate on getting the resources and references. What do you say? DenZ has agreed to do this. (Masculinity (talk) 18:19, 25 March 2008 (UTC))Reply

The latest situation is that there are a couple of editors here, including Agnostic Preacher, Paul B and Tristar, who don't want to put a link to the page "Non-Western concepts of male sexuality", and the fight seems to have stuck there. Now we need some support or canvassing to have the link included there. Perhaps you can start a new thread under the RFC that asks editors to discuss whether a link to the Page should be given in the first paragraph or not (where the short abstract is to be included). (Masculinity (talk) 14:52, 29 March 2008 (UTC))Reply

Yes Taeda, its the 'gay' page. But I'm kind of getting tired. I don't think they'll let us do it. They have too much at stake, and they're just too powerful, while we're too weak. I'm not sure, maybe I'll just try a little bit more, then give up. (Masculinity (talk) 17:02, 1 April 2008 (UTC))Reply