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Juana of Castile

As you appear to be relatively new to Wikipedia, I wanted to explain why I reverted your recent additions to Joanna of Castile. You have added material that is drawn from original letters and documents, primary sources. The use of primary sources is covered by the policy WP:PRIMARY, which basically indicates that articles should be composed from reliable secondary sources, that the reliance on primary sources to form the narrative represents Original Research, which is prohibited (policy WP:NOR). Wikipedia articles should not represent the scholarship of Wikipedia editors, but rather the editors should compile the scholarship of others. In order to add the details you think the articles should cover, you should find them in one of the biographies of Juana that have been published, not within the original letters and calendars of the time. Agricolae (talk) 17:51, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

Agricolae(talk) you are, politely speaking, wrong on this. I revised an original contribution and made absolutely sure no material was primary and only used Bergenroth's Introduction to (his analysis of) the historical record exclusively - he being the uncontested expert on the real Joanna of Castile after his dedicated years personally unearthing archival records and ensuring the facts saw the light of day. As any historian worthy of the name cites his/her sources it is unfortunate that some earlier contributors did not put more reliance on historians and less on the fabulators who treat history like a kind of homeopathic potion. Perhaps there is a case for creating a disambiguation for the other mythical "Juana the Mad" spawner of Hollywood movies and bestselling books. So, if historical truth means anything and after you have verified that what I say is fact (NO original research, no primary stuff, etc etc) and there are no more misunderstandings here, you might revert the contribution, kindly?

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Bibliography

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please don't put a work in the bibliography if you're not using it as a source in the article. Kind Regards -TheseusHeLl (talk) 16:56, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

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Antonio Foscarini

Hi Sugrammr, since you created the article I was wondering if for example this file could be suitable for the article. thank you for your time Lotje (talk) 08:43, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

Lotje thanks. I came across Foscarini's story incidentally to separate researching Venetian State Papers of the period, so I have no particular knowledge. I did a quick edit to insert this information, but please improve it. Was Valenza Gradenigo fictional or real? Sugrammr (talk) 15:04, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

​ Does this help you any further? Lotje (talk) 15:42, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

Taking a closer look at the book in question, this could be Valentia (Valencia, Valenzia, Valenza?) Gradenigo (correct spelling?) one of the daughters of Antonio Priuli.

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