User talk:Solidest/Archives/2021/November

African Popular Music

You made some changed to the template Genres of African popular music, but apparently undid them. Why? 47.36.25.163 (talk) 02:14, 12 November 2021 (UTC)

Hi. That was an auto-translation of the Japanese template. That is, it still needs to be completely rechecked. (1) if the new links are comply the English wikipedia articles; (2) check genre origins in infoboxes; (3) add the missing English articles from the old template. So feel free to use it if you want to revamp the template. Solidest (talk) 08:07, 12 November 2021 (UTC)

Hyperpop

Hey Solidest, can you help me write a part about Basement Jaxx's impact in the article please?
Shawn Reynaldo (Pitchfork, XLR8R, Resident Advisor) calls Rooty "an obvious ancestor of today’s hyperpop boom", "a brash, colorful, genre-busting effort that shamelessly engaged with pop music and largely ignored notions of what was "cool" in electronic music at the time".[1] Evan Sawdey (PopMatters) said "so many of their previous records could be branded as a bonkers brand of "hyperpop" all its own."[2] 2A02:C7F:38FC:A300:B45B:19FA:11D4:D900 (talk) 21:13, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

Hi, sorry, I rarely do that kind of stuff on wikipedia (such as writing on history) Solidest (talk) 13:40, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

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Music...

Hello

I feel like the 2 pages (List of music styles and List of popular music genres) are messed up. Music style and music genre are completely different. How if we change the page's title from "List of popular music genres" to "List of music genres" and remove all the genres (including popular genres) and replace it with music styles like ballad, electronic, dance, uptempo, downtempo, happy, etc...? -GogoLion (talk) 17:40, 29 November 2021 (UTC)

Hi, @GogoLion. Yeah, I definitely don't like the titles of the existing lists (mainly 'style' in the title). But I don't think that we should have both "list of music genres" and "list of musical styles". Things aren't very clear-cut with these terms. I also don't like the model where all subgenres are called styles (as used by Discogs or Allmusic). While I think that "music genre" is a more universally applicable term and should be used everywhere. I have pretty much described how I currently define the term "music style" for myself here. But because of the varied use of the terms it would probably be inappropriate to use only one term in the title. The most correct variant of the name of the list now exists on the Russian wikipedia tho, there's the same list is called "List of music genres, movements and styles". I think we can stay with "List of music genres and styles".

Regarding what to do with the "list of popular styles". I think we should just move everything to the general list and then wipe the 'popular' list, leaving the redirect. If we decide to do a new general list, it's better to start from scratch.

By the way, I also start thinking that the general list of styles could be shortened to just list the main genres names of music and leave links to individual sub-genre pages under each one (like list of electronic.. or list of hardcore punk.., etc; there's about 30 separate lists of music genres at the moment), as it is impossible to maintain it in two places at the same time. Solidest (talk) 18:03, 29 November 2021 (UTC)