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Motorcycle club and Patriot Guard Riders

Please to not repeatedly undo edits on the article Motorcycle club. There is a discussion Talk:Motorcycle_club#Patriot_Guard_Riders where you have every right to give your reasons why you think Patriot Guard riders should not be called a "motorcycle club." I think the problem might be that the article appears to put too much emphasis on "one percenter" clubs as if that is what it is all about. I'm working on correcting this, and including discussion of Patriot Guard Riders and other non-outlaw clubs is part of correcting that misperception.

Again, please to not carry on an edit war. Please use the talk page to explain your position. Thank you!--Dbratland (talk) 23:44, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Talk page help

The guide Wikipedia:Talk page has help on how to format your comments on a talk page. Generally you want to place your comments below the one you are replying to, and not inside their comments. Use colons : to indent your comments. There's more information on the page I linked to.--Dbratland (talk) 23:02, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

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"PGR is not a Motorcycle Club" issue

Hi!

I've been following this issue at Talk:Motorcycle club and I totally understand your point of view, and what you are trying to make the artcle's editors understand.

Before I post anything at the article's Talk Page, I decided to share my thoughts with you, to be sure I got things right.

As far as I understood, PGR members are not required to ride morocycles. That is, in my point of view, the first thing the shows the difference between a Motorcycle Club and what PGR is. It's like claiming to be a soccer team, but with no requirement to play soccer. Sounds weird, huhn? This is exactly what those guys do not understand.

I have just read the Patriot Guard Riders article, and I think I found the ultimate argument you are missing, the one that will finally make people understand why PGR is not a MC, if not requiring to ride a motorcycle is not enough: You have recruited everyone who share the same respect for the soldiers and the like, INCLUDING MEMBERS OF MOTORCYCLE CLUBS like Leathernecks MC and Vietnam Vets MC.

See what I mean? If one can be a PGR and a member of a Motorcycle Club at the same time, it means that there is no conflict of interest, because no Motorcycle Club would accept a member who is also a member of another MC (like being a member of the Hells Angels and of the Bandidos at the same time).

Please, let me know what you think.

For the last, I would like to stress my deep respect for what you guys do. I'm Brazilian, and also a member of a local Motorcycle Club. Wish we had that here too...

--Sudias ^Hi! 21:21, 5 August 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sudias (talk • contribs)