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Reverting Updates about BTOB

Hey! Please don't revert my revision of updates about BTOB, especially the awards they received and other important revisions. Don't worry, I'll be putting more credible references. I appreciate your efforts by the way. Thank you and have a nice day. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zion 21 (talk • contribs) 14:20, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

Hello @Zion 21:, the http://ikma.japakomusic.com awards are not notabale since they are entirely fan-voted in a web poll, so the entry was removed Snowflake91 (talk) 14:24, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

If the awards from International K-Music Awards are not notable then you should check other KPop groups with awards came from them like Monsta X, etc. Thank you. Note: All awards, notable or not. are still awards.

No they are not, this is an encylopedia and not a fan site, ALL awards must pass WP:GNG. And "the other groups have them, so they can have them too" is not a reason either per WP:OTHER, feel free to go and delete all fan awards from Monsta X or other groups, they should have been deleted anyway but its just that nobody deleted them yet. Snowflake91 (talk) 14:59, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

Okay I do understand. Thank you. But why did you remove BTOB's First Place in KBS Immortal Songs 2 which we all know a notable award. More so, that award was already listed for a long time on that page since BTOB got that award. UnbiasedKPopper (talk) 12:33, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

Its a music competion/show and not an actual award, notable awards are usually held only once per year, while Immortal Songs 2 had new winners every single week Snowflake91 (talk) 12:38, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

I have a question. How can I include that award then in accordance to Wikipedia's standards? UnbiasedKPopper (talk) 15:08, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

Another thing. If awards that came from International K-Music Awards are not notable, then why is it that groups like ASTRO and Monsta X, among others, have that awards from them listed? It should be deleted to for the sake of fairness. UnbiasedKPopper (talk) 15:11, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

It must passes WP:GNG criterias, i.e. has published news from neutral sources (newspapers, news sites etc.), and ideally it should held a ceremony for the winners as well. Yes it should be deleted, you can delete them if you want to since they are just a web-poll voting from gossip news site, which doesnt have any credibility and notability. Snowflake91 (talk) 15:13, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

Ok, I understand. But how about the KBS Immortal Songs 2 First Place of BTOB? How to include that properly?

It should not be included here since it is not an actual award, it could be mentioned in the "career" section at BTOB article that they finished in 1st place on immortal songs 2. Its wrong to write "2016" in the table while they won on one episode in January, someone who would be reading it would thought that they were the overall 2016 winners of entire show or something. Snowflake91 (talk) 15:20, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

Don't worry, I indicated that those awards are not counted on BTOB's number of wins. I just put it there as part of their recognition. Moreover, their win in KBS Immortal Songs 2 is clearly not a fancraft. Hope you understand. Thank you. Zion 21 (talk) 16:42, 10 July 2017 (UTC)

Why would you list something in the article if it is not actually counted towards their awards, just because, for fun? Every award listed in the article must pass WP:GNG, so that "International kpop awards" or whatever they are called will be deleted, those awards are same web-polls from kpop blogs/news sites just like soompi awards, allkpop awards etc. Snowflake91 (talk) 16:49, 10 July 2017 (UTC)

Definitely not for fun only, but putting them because those are also achievements by them. Hope you understand.Zion 21 (talk) 15:22, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

Since you are always insisting about the notability of an award received by BTOB, let me just inform you that in the awards and nominations received by BAP the awards from Allkpop, KMC, KoreanUpdates and others which you insist that are not notable are actually included on their list. So I have the rights to include as well those "not notable" awards received by BTOB. But don't worry, I will label that as "not notable awards." Zion 21 (talk) 18:08, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

As I already said, DELETE non-notable awards from all other groups, and not add them to other articles instead, inclusion criteria for awards are clear; see WP:Other, just because other articles are plagued with fancruft material, it doesnt mean that all articles should be. Snowflake91 (talk) 18:36, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

Piyapong Pue-on

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hi snowflake

just wanna say hi and thnx for keep updating Soshi and Jessica Wiki. Rizkysone (talk) 05:23, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

Handball

Hey, Fanny was really frustrating to "work" with... Not mad he is gone. BTW: The weight is not needed on handball (or most sport) articles as this changes constantly at times. Kante4 (talk) 10:27, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

Report him right away. Kante4 (talk) 20:34, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

2601:180:4102:EA50:E9F2:2962:9B36:F410

Hi, Snowflake91. Thank you for reverting the vandalism by IP user 2601:180:4102:EA50:E9F2:2962:9B36:F410. I'm going to send a block request for that IP so you don't have to worry about them. NewByzantine (talk) 13:54, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

Fan Award

I do not know what you mean by removing all the fan awards for EXO. I think it's okay to add because all the awards fall under the category 'Awards and nominations', although the award was purely from a selection of fans. I'm not upset with your behavior, but if you want to remove the fan awards, doing to all artists. I still find some of the Wikipedia page that lists So-loved and Soompi - you must remove it as well. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kimjongbah (talk • contribs) 09:42, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

• WP:OTHERSTUFF, feel free and remove them from any K-pop artist you want, Soompi awards are purely fancruft awards and do not belong to an encyclopedia. Snowflake91 (talk) 09:54, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

As far as I can see, there are no awards that are supported by the source 'btsdiary' and yes, I do believe that this is not a reliable source however allkpop and soompi are quite reliable. The Soompi Awards even provide the winners with an actual trophy. Fan voted awards, however, I believe should be included as there are award shows such as 'Teen Choice Awards' purely based on the votes, that are obviously considered notable. As far as I can see, all the awards are cited by a source, whereas some other idol pages are not even cited by a source, so if one is to interfere with awards that are cited with a source, I believe that is unjust to other pages that are not User talk:SamTaker

February 2017

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Sorry, this template doesn't quite get the pages right. But the idea is correct—don't cut and paste text from one page to another. In the case of NK Naklo, you should have proposed a WP:MERGE, or at least followed the procedure for one. — Gorthian (talk) 23:14, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

Football charts

"whats the point? All opponents and progress and results are already in the table below" But this chart shows the team's progression throughout its history in a visual way, you can't grasp that as well with the vertical tables with the results. I believe they complement each other, the chart provides synthesis and the tables insight. You can grasp a notion of the team's history at the European stage and then go down to learn about each season's results. Can I repost it? Pakhtakorienne (talk) 20:53, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

The table below is a visual progression throughout the history as well, and its much easier to read. I think its better without it, and the table is completely wrong anyway, for example, for the group stages – why is there "Schalke" in the "Round of 32" (this stage doesnt even exist anymore) for 2014-15 Champions League, its only causing confusion since someone would thought that Schalke eliminated them while in fact it was a group stage, and the other 2 teams in the group are not even mentioned, while in the second table it is clearly shwon which teams played in a group. Snowflake91 (talk) 21:35, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

But the Champions League's group stage is actually a round of 32 even if it isn't called that way. And if could be said that Schalke actually eliminated Maribor as it was the closest, "key" opponent when it comes to progressing or not. At the same time the ¹ sign shows it's a group stage and there's an explanation above.

Overall the chart shows in one look when the team faced certain teams from certain countries at a certain stage of the competition throughout history within the competition format's evolution and provides a visual outline of the team's historical trajectory in it. I'd say it's hard to get a grasp like this by looking at the tables. Anyway the chart was discussed yesterday at Wikiproject Football, and several users were okay with it as long as it's posted in the team's European sub-article. Pakhtakorienne (talk) Pakhtakorienne (talk) 22:53, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

The competition's stages are strange in that table, another example is Europa League – why is group stage under "Preliminary stages", and Intertoto cup was played as First, Second and Third round in 2006 & 2007, so its again misleading saying "semifinals" and "finals" since there were 11 matches in the third round. Snowflake91 (talk) 23:04, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

I'd say the Europa League's main stages are from the Round of 32 onwards, several contenders to the title don't take part in the group stage. As for the Intertoto, regardless of their name they had the same "position", it was a three-stage competition and that's why they're at the right side of the chart. What the chart shows is how much stages is a certain stage away from the end of the competition, with individual categories for the five final stages and an "umbrella" for the earlier ones, I think it's the most intuitive and clear way of synthesizing an evolving competition in a chart. The "preliminary stages" could be renamed "earlier stages" but anyway I don't think it's misleading unless the titles are taken literally. Anyway my point is that I think this chart provides a different outlook on the team's historical progression in the competition and complements the tables below, and I don't think it's confusing if it's taken as it's meant to. Pakhtakorienne (talk) 23:39, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

I've made some adjustments to it, like removing super cup / club world cup (useless for clubs which will never play that), couple of colours were wrong (Partizan 2006 and Sevilla 2014 were green instead of red), corrected club names (Besiktas --> Beşiktaş, Zeljeznicar --> Željezničar etc.), and also use ndash instead of hyphen for seasons per manual of style rules ("–" instead of "-"), if you have any ideas for improving it feel free to edit Snowflake91 (talk) 10:41, 17 February 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll keep it in mind next time I make one. :) Pakhtakorienne (talk) 11:20, 17 February 2017 (UTC)

Somi

Hi, I was wondering if you could include Somi's variety guest appearances somewhere on her page since I think they should be included...Dinochennie (talk) 22:14, 18 February 2017 (UTC)dinochennie

They cant be included, it has been discussed several times and the conclusion was that only being the main cast or regular MC is considered as notable, if every single guest appearance would be listed then the list will way too big in several years Snowflake91 (talk) 22:59, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

Source? Guest appearances are included in most other articles I checked. Lee Hye-ri#Filmography for one. --lavixcanvas M T C 09:03, 23 April 2017 (UTC)

Per consensus on Talk:Im Yoon-ah and couple of other pages, they should not be included on any of the artists pages, its just that no one has deleted them yet on other pages, or someone constantly adds them back. Snowflake91 (talk) 09:22, 23 April 2017 (UTC)

NK Železničar Maribor

Isn't it better to have partial data than no data at all? Someone else might fill in the missing cups. Ebutaljib (talk) 16:17, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

NK Ljubljana

Please don't provoke with that crap green logo, that wasn't actually used on the kits. If you need bigger verison use this: http://shrani.si/f/33/Ne/4uWnkriC/nkljvv-2.png or this https://www.brandsoftheworld.com/logo/fc-ljubljana (it is NK Ljubljana logo, not FC) or old one https://www.brandsoftheworld.com/logo/zeljeznicar-ljubljana not the green fake one! Linhart (talk) 10:29, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

The fact that the fans doesnt like the logo is meaningless, if the club has OFFICIALLY used that logo to represent the club, even if only for 1 season, it can be included as former crest, among all that other official logos of course. Snowflake91 (talk) 10:34, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

OK, thanks, now it's better. Yes, the green logo (officially used only on the tickets and nowhere else) can of course be used among the others in the bottom of the page, but it can't be the representative logo of the club. Linhart (talk) 11:40, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

If you have a correct chronological sequence for those other two logos from brandsoftheworlds, I can upload them, but I dont have any idea in which years were they used Snowflake91 (talk) 11:43, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

Yes, please, but it's complicated. Old Železničar logo was used from late eighties (cca 1990) untill 1997. The blue Ljubljana logo was an alternate logo used here https://web.archive.org/web/20031026054231/http://www.liga.simobil.si/ljubljana.asp and in SNL magazines (http://shrani.najdi.si/?0/PT/I29DCUd/nk-ljubljana-5.jpg). The club had no clear logo policy in 02-05, but basically they had two logos, regular one and sponsored (Viator&Vektor) one for the first team.Linhart (talk) 13:09, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

@Linhart: Is the logo okay? It seems like something is messed up with that vector image? I will try to convert it again and upload in .png Snowflake91 (talk) 13:27, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

Great, thanks! I'm thinking... maybe we should put that blue one (2002-05) one the top of the article, since it's without sponsor. Hmm, what do you think?

And maybe we could include this one from Yugoslavia, 80s logo http://shrani.najdi.si/?1q/Rr/4CzJUYxL/nkzsd.gif to have them all. Linhart (talk) 13:47, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

Will upload it right now, what about that other logo (https://www.brandsoftheworld.com/logo/zeljeznicar-ljubljana)? Is this from 1950s or something ?Snowflake91 (talk) 14:01, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

Excellent! the lat one is untill 97. Just put "90s crest" (The one with star is from 50s).

Great, thanks for everything, keep up the good work!Linhart (talk) 15:33, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

btw I see you uploada also other logos, I believe Maribor should be more like this http://shrani.najdi.si/?3C/uh/17XNWN1R/-old-logo.png

Are you sure? Did you draw that logo yourself or something, never saw that one while that blue version with red star is vectorized and found on few pages Snowflake91 (talk) 15:39, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

Well, all the badges are violet and have a bird up there https://www.google.si/search?q=zna%C4%8Dka+nk+maribor or this http://shrani.si/f/v/16/1Cj8M1bI/vsi.png I never saw a blue one with star, but it's possible. I don't know, do whatever you think is best. 15:51, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

I see, will upload that one instead, on one of those pictures it says '61-81', so was this the first club's crest then? Snowflake91 (talk) 15:56, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

Hm, I'm not sure, 61-81 it's just 20 years anniversary logo. I know it was used in 60s for sure. In albums "Fudbaleri i timovi" from 1974 untill 1984 this logo was used: http://nogomet.lzmk.hr/userfiles/image/slike_nogomet/NL_0410.jpg. Linhart (talk) 16:17, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

There is a purple version of this logo here, uploaded by someone in november 2016 https://www.brandsoftheworld.com/logo/nk-maribor-2 , maybe this colors are more accurate Snowflake91 (talk) 16:25, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

Anyone is fine.

NK Steklar logo

I saw you changed the logo for NK Steklar. While i'm all for improvement, i would like to point out 2 problems: 1- the new logo is over cropped on the right side, and 2- IIRC, at the time i corrected the color using a different source. It's important to know that the colors on many older logos at Brand of the World are off. Please undo the edit on NK Steklar. Thank you.--Ben Stone 20:09, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

Logo Heads-up

Just wanted to let you know that, if a logo file already exists, there's no reason you can't just upload on top of the existing image and replace it.

I'd also let you know that, if the logo has a lot of extra transparent space in it, you might want to crop that out. And, as stated above, be sure to check to make sure the colors are right.

That said, I very much appreciate you finding higher quality logos (as long as they aren't too high resolution for fair use). So, thanks.

— trlkly 21:01, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, I will try to be more careful about transparency white space, the problem with overriding exist files is that, well, they cannot be uploaded if the format is different – if existing image is .jpg format (shit format for logos), I cannot upload a .png or .svg format over that, so I need to upload it as a new file. Snowflake91 (talk) 21:05, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

You probably meant that logo – sorry about that, I dont know why I didnt uploaded it over it, I see its .png so it should have been uploaded over existing file. Snowflake91 (talk) 21:09, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

FC Seoul Jersey

Firstly thank you for creating FC Seoul Jersey. As you know, 2016 and 2017 Home jersey is same. But 2016 with FA Cup winners patch and 2017 with K League Classic patch. Patch is optional. Due to patch, Distinguish of jersy is too detail. We have to create jersey year by year. In my opinion. Except Season article, In FC Seoul main article, We had better display by release periode: Home 2016-2017, 2018-2019 / Away 2015-2016, 2017-2018 Footwiks (talk)

I will create a kit without patch for 2016-2017 season later today Snowflake91 (talk)

New Kit without patch is awesome. Thanks. If you have spare time, Can you create Home and away jerseys: 1991-1993, 1994, 1995-1996, 1997-1999 seasons?

Jerseys for 1991-1993, 1994, 1995-1996, 1997-1999 seasons are very poor. You need not to create in detail.

You can refer to illustration and photos as belows Illustration http://blog.naver.com/topof1st/20204186649 1991-1993 illustration had minor mistake. Shot sleeves don't have black rim. Long sleeves have black rim
Photos https://namu.wiki/w/FC%20%EC%84%9C%EC%9A%B8/%EC%9C%A0%EB%8B%88%ED%8F%BC

Footwiks (talk)

Is the colour (home, 1991/1993) of the shirt the same shade of yellow/orange as the socks? Because on those pictures from Namu, socks looks more yellow while the shirt is more orange Snowflake91 (talk) 19:43, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

Yes, probably you're right. socks maker and jersey maker was differnt. But it's not important. Need not to create in too detail. Never mind Footwiks (talk)

Great Job, Really really thanks a lot..

1997 and 1998~1999 Home is same colour and desing...only maker is differnt.

It looks different here and here Snowflake91 (talk) 14:08, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

Not that I know of This is player jersey which weared Yoon Sangchul at matches in 1997. Same colour and design. But Reebok maker. here

Can you leave a message in discussion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Decentralization_policy_in_K_League

plz add TWICE kpop awards

on 28feb 2017, TWICE kpop got best female group @SOOMPI AWARDS . but no one care about that award. can u find the article(maybe on youtube have) and plz add to twice list awards . thanks Ira.gusyani02 (talk) 19:57, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

Cyprus Cup

hi pls not delete table ( like it many exist in many football articles) , or create National team appearances in the Cyprus Cup, thanks.Callofworld (talk) 14:09, 10 March 2017 (UTC) this policy : WP:NOTSTATS :Not specify exactly (each section with Personal Impression and Personal Taste can be deleted) , for improve information and complete overall table is good.Callofworld (talk) 14:18, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

See it :Talk:Cyprus Cup, thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Callofworld (talk • contribs) 14:27, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

Table points

hi, thanks you for your edit, pls see : All-time table of the FIFA World Cup - Total points exist in overall sport tables. thanks you. best regards.

GFriend's The Awakening

Hello Snowflake, if you have extra time, can you put the album description from Melon on The Awakening page? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Meatgrind89 (talk • contribs) 09:42, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

Album description seems too WP:NPOV on Melon, and I cant read Hangul so I cant translate that good enough, sorry Snowflake91 (talk) 10:21, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

KK FMP

Thank you very much for your edits at KK FMP but they are wrong. All main basketball editors are aware of that, and now you change this because you believe to one vandal (Bobik) who is not an editor of english wikipedia. When he made 1% edits that i made here then he could be reliable.. till then he is just a vandal. --Bozalegenda (talk) 14:13, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

• I give more sources like you ask so...--Bobik (talk) 16:52, 26 March 2017 (UTC)

I dont get ur message

i dont understand ur god message — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.174.35.70 (talk) 22:37, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

Well read WP:NPOV, WP:PEACOCK, and Wikipedia:WikiProject Korea/Reliable sources then. Snowflake91 (talk) 22:41, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

Red Velvet all wins

Why did u all mess RV wins lol // if artist won it doesnt mean he was nominated // nomination is only giving when artist didnt win in this category — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.68.164.223 (talk) 23:19, 18 March 2017 (UTC)

Look at Adele, Taylor Swift, Lorde and other "featured lists" what kind of formatting are they using, nominations are counted even if they win Snowflake91 (talk) 10:07, 19 March 2017 (UTC)

Flags again

Hey, Bebalo (talk · contribs) is adding flags to infoboxes, such as Fanny was doing. Kante4 (talk) 09:31, 26 March 2017 (UTC)

You can not merge something just because you think that you wright. If you merge this i will make FMP Beograd again. There is a basketball comunity here, people who are editing basketball articles for years and we will decide what to do with this... not some non-basketball editors.--Bozalegenda (talk) 12:21, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

Bibliography Slovenia

hi snowflake!

I Arranged bibliography about Slovenian towns an places, all mentioned in the book:

• Barron, Yuri (2016). The Slovenia book: Top 100 destinations. Ljubljana, Slovenia: IQBATOR d.o.o. ISBN 978-961-94046-1-4.COBISS 285146880

as much like on the English site of Rome, Italy:

• Brilliant, Richard (2006). Roman Art. An American's View. Rome: Di Renzo Editore. ISBN 88-8323-085-X., with extra connection on legal and actual (english) library site, common used in Slovenia, Serbia, Bosnia and Herzegovina and Macedonia!

Please inform me about your problems at once!! (talk) 20:50, 29 March 2017 (UTC)

Why citing a random book for content which is not even mentinoed in the article? It needs to include inline citations. And this book is clearly a tourist guide http://www.emka.si/the-slovenia-book-top-100-destinations/PR/1812848 Snowflake91 (talk) 18:50, 29 March 2017 (UTC)

Handball, football...

Hy. You uploaded a lot of logos. Here is new one for slo. handball legue if you are interested http://www.rokometna-zveza.si/si/imagelib/14//default/SLIKE/04_Klubske%20slike/Liga%20NLB_logotip.jpg and btw what do you think about creating Croatian football clubs in European competitions this for Slovenia? I can help you.Linhart (talk) 09:37, 4 April 2017 (UTC)

I uploaded it. This article will take too much time since there are tons of tables, and those all-time results are already included on every club's page Snowflake91 (talk) 10:02, 4 April 2017 (UTC)

Thanks. Yeah, i know, too much statistics...Linhart (talk) 10:29, 4 April 2017 (UTC)

Hey, another idea. With all those additions in Slovenian PrvaLigs, what do you think about moving part of the content (specially those long tables, all-time table, all-time attendances, records) to a new page similar to Premier League records and statistics? Then we could keep only essential info under statistics (uefa coeff, maybe topscorers etc) and put Main article: Prvaliga records and statistics.Linhart (talk) 08:53, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

@Linhart: Good idea, top 10 most capped players could be included as well, but I cant find a source for it on prvaliga.si; but not right now, the article could be created after the season Snowflake91 (talk) 08:58, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

Yes, after the season, great. You can find caps here: http://www.prvaliga.si/tekmovanja/default.asp?action=statistika&id_menu=220&id_sezone=-1 Linhart (talk) 09:21, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

@Linhart: I started the article at User:Snowflake91/sandbox, if you find any mistakes you can fix them here before the article will be published. Although the prvaliga website has many mistakes, Most consecutive losses for Izola should be 15, not 17, Most consecutive games without a win should be 31 and not 41, and "Brez neodločenega" 25 for Mura and Domžale is doubtful as well, I checked the schedules and there were only 22 draws in a row between 7.3.1999 and 19.9.1999, not 25 etc. Snowflake91 (talk) 17:57, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

Looks great. Yes I know, there could be mistakes on prvaliga site, eerithing must be checked. I looked for Izola and Jadran, it's ok now. Just add those all-time tables and that's it, I think. And this: Most wins in a season (36 games): 26, Maribor (2011–12) maybe irrelevant. Linhart (talk) 22:44, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

@Linhart: Do you know which player scored for most different clubs in 1. SNL? Ermin Raković scored for 8 different clubs, is this the record? Snowflake91 (talk) 13:08, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

Probably, I'm not sure, there are no official sources for that.Linhart (talk) 17:45, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

Great, thanks! I like it, I think it's much better now. And btw, here you have for planet tv/rtv https://snportal.si/prva-liga/novi-sponzor-prve-lige-telekom-slovenije/Linhart (talk) 10:11, 27 May 2017 (UTC)

@Linhart: I merged NK Triglav Kranj with old one since there is no point having 2 articles, can you check and add missing former names at NK Triglav Kranj#Name changes. However, this logo you uploaded will now be deleted since it is without an article and there is nowhere it can be fit into current Triglav article, so perhaps you should save that logo if you didnt already, so if we need it in the near future it can be re-uploaded. Snowflake91 (talk) 13:20, 28 May 2017 (UTC)

Super. Thanks, I saved it.Linhart (talk) 14:46, 28 May 2017 (UTC)

Hmm, what if make awards like this?

Player of the year

• 2004 Damir Pekič, Dražen Žeželj
• 2005 Saša Ranić
• 2006 Ermin Rakovič
• 2007-08 Amer Jukan

Goalkeeper of the year

• 2005 Mitja Pirih
• 2006 Jasmin Handanović
• 2007-08 Dejan Nemec
• 2008-09 Dejan Nemec

Young player of the year

• 2011-12 Boban Jović
• 2012-13 Boban Jović
• 2013-14 Martin Milec
• 2014-15 Benjamin Verbič

Manager of the year

• Darko Milanič

Linhart (talk) 11:10, 3 June 2017 (UTC)

btw I also have for 90s, 1991 Miloš Breznikar (Gorica) 1992 Vlado Milošević (Ljubljana) 1993 Gregor Židan (Maribor) 1994 Džoni Novak (Olimpija) 1995 Sandi Valentinčič (Gorica)

I'll try to find sources. Found, here: https://www.sta.si/109986/dzoni-novak-nogometas-leta, https://www.sta.si/183925/bralci-dnevnika-izbrali-valentincicaLinhart (talk) 11:13, 3 June 2017 (UTC)

I changed the tables, I actually tried to make it like that with 4 columns but had much trouble with {col} formatting. Fro those 1990s awards, I dont think thats official, its was voted by Dnevnik readers and not by players/media or someone else with more credibility, and it was awarded in January 1996, so it is only for the first half of the season or.... ? Snowflake91 (talk) 11:43, 3 June 2017 (UTC)

It's for calendar years. Like 2004, 2005 and 2006.Linhart (talk) 12:47, 3 June 2017 (UTC)

Non free images

Some of your changes have had to be reverted - the guideline is 100,000 pixels, the new images were over that size. Ronhjones  ^(Talk) 20:56, 9 April 2017 (UTC)

E710240215531c (talk) 08:32, 14 April 2017 (UTC)

Stožice Sports Park

Hi, recently I made some changes on the page about Stožice Sports Park and I noticed that you keep deleting RK Krim from the Sports Park's tenants. So I would like to ask you why are you against mentioning RK Krim as one of the tenants, even though it is totally clear that they are playing many games at the Arena Stožice? — Preceding unsigned comment added by E710240215531c (talk • contribs) 21:21, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

Becuase they are not? They played only Champions League games at Stožice in the past, but now they are playing at Kodeljevo as far as I know. Snowflake91 (talk) 21:28, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

Your information are correct, however they are still playing their league and cup matches in the smaller hall in Stožice. E710240215531c (talk) 08:32, 14 April 2017 (UTC)

EFL League Two logo

Hello, I saw that the logo of EFL League Two that you have uploaded is wrong. The red dots must be at the bottom. You can see this at: EFL official site. If you can fixed it, I will very pleased. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nick Rokk 96 (talk • contribs) 19:16, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

I see what you mean, will upload the correct one. Snowflake91 (talk) 19:37, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

Got7 awards

Can you please add the Soompi awards in "list of awards and nominations received by Got7"? If not, why did you remove the ones I added? HAther04 (talk) 18:09, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

Soompi.com is listed as unreliable per WP:KO/RS, therefore their fan-voted awards are not notable either. Snowflake91 (talk) 18:28, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

All the soompi awards from most of the groups (exo,got7,btsetcetc) are removed but some pages still have those awards ie seventeen...can you remove those awards from other pages too before it causes misunderstandings HAther04 (talk) 07:23, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

Why Omit the truth

I had posted a shoe ban which happened last year on the opening of the season. Why omit the truth? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.91.192.4 (talk) 10:00, 19 April 2017 (UTC)

Because you are copy/pasting text directly from the source Snowflake91 (talk) 10:03, 19 April 2017 (UTC)

Choi Yoo-jung

Why can't Yoo-jung have a page but So-hye can? So-hye doesn't have that much outside of I.O.I either except for a variety show, but Yoo-jung also had a variety show outside of I.O.I too. Magicsk8r123 (talk) 21:16, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

Jucie Lupeta

Hello from Portugal,

yes, I am fully aware TRANSFERMARKT is not reliable, but that was the furthest source in my mind, I was thinking about FORADEJOGO (external link #2), reliable by WP standards. You can also have this one (http://www.fpf.pt/pt/Jogadores/Jogador/playerId/942407, the official site of the Portuguese Football Federation).

I also apologize for the heated summary, uncalled for --193.137.135.2 (talk) 11:12, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

• No problems, happy editing! --193.137.135.2 (talk) 11:39, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

Chelsea FC

As another club has now achieved the feat, it should be referred to in the past tense. Another rather petty reversion of one of my edits. Pathetic really. BRACK66 (talk) 13:48, 27 May 2017 (UTC)

@BRACK66: It simply says that they are the first team to achieve this, and not the only one to achieve it, they will forever be the first team to achieve it, so no need for past tense. However, the sentence could be re-written to be less awkward, for example "In 2013, Chelsea became the first English club to have won all three major UEFA trophies". Snowflake91 (talk) 14:19, 27 May 2017 (UTC)

Jangchung Arena

Hello, I'm sshs, Korean student.(I'm not good at English:0) I brought the data form Korean wiki. And I want to know why you delete the'Major Events' — Preceding unsigned comment added by SsHs (talk • contribs) 10:44, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

WP:ALUMNI

WP:ALUMNI appears to allow sourcing in the alum's article, so you should really put some of them back at School_of_Performing_Arts_Seoul. I'm all for removing the redlinks. Siuenti (씨유엔티) 13:30, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

I need your explanation.Thank you ^_^

Hello Snowflake91. I'm NHstrawberry. Can I know why you delete the content that I have wrote about Running Man in variety show section in Im Yoon-ah page? Thanks. If that is my mistake, sorry. NHstrawberry (talk) 18:01, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

@NHstrawberry: Hello, it was discussed at Talk:Im Yoon-ah that guest appearances on single episodes, especially appearances with whole group, are not notable and are therefore not listed, only shows where she is main cast are listed. Snowflake91 (talk) 18:21, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

@Snowflake91: Thanks for telling me.

Requested input

Hello, I frequently see you contribute to articles listed in Wikipedia:WikiProject Korea/Popular culture and would very much appreciate your input on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Korea/Popular culture#Eradication of variety show sections so that a conclusion towards variety show appearances can be made. Thanks. Abdotorg (talk) 18:48, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

Red Velvet Irene

Hi,

Recently I've change Irene's name to Bae JU-Hyun instead of Bae JOO-Hyun as there's a recent photo of her handwritten her name as Bae Ju-Hyun.

Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ireneismybae (talk • contribs) 12:36, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

@Ireneismybae: We use what reliable sources are using, none of the sources are using "Ju", while Joo is used by koreaportal, yibada, asiastarz, kpopstarz etc., unless you can find a reliable source calling her "Ju". Snowflake91 (talk) 12:58, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

@Snowflake91: Hello, here's a link > ( https://www.instagram.com/p/BVGptvXgPuu/ )

Thats not reliable though, its not even her verified Instagram account...it would need to be in published source like news article etc. Snowflake91 (talk) 13:24, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

here's a picture taken of her ( https://twitter.com/peiying21_/status/873220732225966085 ) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ireneismybae (talk • contribs) 17:08, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

Please refer! :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ireneismybae (talk • contribs) 16:59, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Barnstar of Diligence
	For your wonderful work on the notoriously difficult K-pop area. K-pop is rife with dubious and outright unreliable sources. Your diligence in vetting and evaluating sources for these articles is greatly appreciated. Thank you. Dr. K. 17:03, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

Lee Myung-joo

Long time no see! How have you been? Can you serch the Lee Myung-joo stats in Al-Ain FC? I can't find the stats in South korean press! Footwiks (talk)

• Hi @Footwiks:, but there are already stats in the article? 70 caps / 5 goals in UAE League per NFT and Soccerway + 2 apps / 0 goals in UAE SuperCup + 13/2 in UAE League Cup. Snowflake91 (talk) 18:01, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
  • Stat table of korean wiki had mistake. 70 matches 5 goals. I think that these stat are accurate? Thanks a lot. Footwiks (talk) 18:16, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
    • @Footwiks: Yes it is definitely a mistake on Korean wiki, he could not have 30 league caps in 2015-16 because there are only 26 games per season in Gulf League. ACL stats are: 2014 4/1, 2015 8/0, 2016 14/2,2017 8/1 Snowflake91 (talk) 18:21, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

Variety Show Section

Hello, I frequently see you delete some of the variety show such as King of Masked Singer where they are the participant of the show? I think it is notable for some singers that just want to be famous. In Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Korea/Popular culture#Eradication of variety show sections, the editors still not make any conclusion about what to do with variety show section. I hope we can wait for the result and edit the page after that. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Cheers!!! NHstrawberry (talk) 08:01, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

Where did I remove KOMS appearances? It could have been deleted by a mistake, I always leave Kinf of Mask Singer in the section if the person is contestant Snowflake91 (talk) 08:49, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

Mamamoo

Firstly, I'd like to apologize if i come off as rude but I'd like to ask why immortal songs was taken off mamamoo's page? They competed in the show and so, i'd like to know why it was deleted from the page. Same goes for their weekly idol appearances and their knowing brother appearance. Thank you for you time. Goofy.G.Goof (talk) 03:07, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

They were guest singers on Immortal Song, not contestants, same with Weekly Idol, only one appearance on talking show = guesting Snowflake91 (talk) 08:50, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

Article Revamp: Question

Hello!

This is outside of the K-pop articles we normally edit, but I have a question about an article I'm trying to re-vamp: What do you think about the Pickering Public Library article I've revamped so far? And what suggestions do you think I should make to expand, clean-up, etc. about it? Just need your opinion on this!

Sincerely,

Tibbydibby (talk) 20:30, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

@Tibbydibby: Hello, I have no knowledge of how the library article should look like, but it is much better now than before since the article looked like it was written by someone employed there and was without any sources. I would just get rid of green colours in the awards table, it is distracting, it doesnt need a background colour. Snowflake91 (talk) 20:38, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

@Snowflake91: Thank you so much! Will do. And no worries, it was just for your opinion. Thank you again! Tibbydibby (talk) 20:45, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Loona

Hello! You're one of the contributors on the Loona's page, and I would like to have your opinion about Jinsoul and Haseul's animals. Thanks! :) Carrott' (talk) 17:59, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

Antonio Rüdiger

Hey, just a quick thank you for reverting my edit at Antonio Rüdiger: didn't know it wasn't a done deal (Guardian sounded too convincing) and I was pretty confused to find out today that Manchester City may swoop in for the deal. So, far from completed (though, I believe it will happen eventually). I see that few others rushed in, as well. Luckily, you were there to correct us. --Виктор Јованоски (talk) 16:32, 3 July 2017 (UTC)

KK Olimpija

The name Petrol Olimpija is not yet offical. Right now is offical name Olimpija Ljubljana.

Read that: http://www.union.olimpija.com/novice/po-skupscini-kk-olimpija-ljubljana, offical name is KK Olimpija Ljubljana, " Že pa je jasno, da s dolgoletni generalni pokrovitelj Pivovarna Union poslavlja od imena kluba, a ostaja pomemben člen sponzorske družine."

@Bury 99: On their official website, they have "Union Olimpija" in their latest news, including in the schedule for 2017-18 ABA league? Snowflake91 (talk) 20:00, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

July 2017

Please do not add or change content, as you did at Carlyle Mitchell, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. GiantSnowman 09:42, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

Osmar

Some Football Site: Osmar Ibáñez Barba / Some Football Site: Osmar Barba Ibáñez. I confused and really wanted to know the correct full name.

So Today, I talked with Osmar on Facebook.

Osmar's answer is belows

It is a long story. In Spain parents choose the baby name and then they get father's surname (Barba) and then mother's surname (Ibanez). But because of my parents divorced long time ago and I'ver never been with my father I change it officially just before come to Thailand and by then I had some accounts already open with the other way...

Also Osmar said to me I want to be called Osmar Ibáñez not Osmar Barba Footwiks (talk)

The article title should be the most common name per WP:COMMONNAME, and not official full name of the person, therefore Osmar (footballer) is the best name, and his full name can be mentioned in the infobox. Snowflake91 (talk) 16:16, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

• Official full name: Raúl González Blanco / simple name: Raúl González
• Official full name: Osmar Ibáñez Barba / simple name: Osmar Ibáñez

This is spanish name rull. But Raul is most famous. So he can use only Raul on wikipedia.. Do you think that Spanish Osmar is most famous? There are many football players who use Osmar. I think that Osmar Ibáñez is proper article name.Footwiks (talk)

But he is nowhere addressed as "Osmar Ibanez", its either simply "Osmar" or "Osmar Barba" Snowflake91 (talk) 16:34, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

Also, he is the most known "Osmar" and is therefore primary topic for "Osmar Footballer", he played 1 season in La Liga after all, while all other "Osmar" players have played in some obscure brazilian lower leagues, only Osmar Ferreyra is notable as well, others are not. See 1, 2, 3, 4 etc., in all those reliable sources his name is only "Osmar" Snowflake91 (talk) 16:37, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

In 2012, He changed the full name. FC Seoul English website use Osmar Ibanez Barba since 2014. FC Seoul officials can confirm his Passport. As you know, Ohter Football Site can't confirm his passport and most football site don't have interest about reflection of the change.

I think Soccerway or other football sites don't correct his name to Osmar Ibáñez Barba or Osmar Ibáñez eternally. They are not reliable source.

We have to refer to FC Seoul Website. [1]

OK. Spanish OSMAR is most famous currently. I have a question. Later on, If the Osmar who play for Real Madrid is appear, At that time, Can we change the name again? Footwiks (talk)

As I said, the title of the article should be the most commonly used name in english sources, not the name they have written in the passport (this rule is only for the article name, in the article itselft, he can be addressed by his full name). Like outside of football, there is IU (singer), not Lee Ji-eun, so using Osmar (footballer) is fine. And even if some player appear later, it can still be "Osmar (footballer born 1988)" Snowflake91 (talk) 17:15, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

OK, I think that this is English Wiki's very critical weakpoint. - The title of the article should be the most commonly used name in english sources. Because of this rule, There were many inappropriate title in English Wikepedia. And we can't change it. IU is not approiate example, IU (singer) is her singer's brand name which she want to be called. She also introduce herself to us as IU. But Most football player name is based on Passport. Name on passport is most reliable source. Player names in Clubs or League or Association website are also based on passport name when they register. If the name is appeared in club website players section , League websited players section, Association website players section, Then soccerway and eurosport copy them. This is process. Soccerway and Eurosport once copy player name on club website or league website. But Even if club or league website change the nmae, Soccerway, Eurosports and so on never update. Because they can't controll all players and trivial change is not important at running the website. Like outside of football, Similar things happen. But include you, English Wikipedia said common name, common name, common name in English source!, What is common name in English source? They are not common name. They are outdated name in English sources that lazy or unconcerned of updating.Footwiks (talk)

Anyway, This is new K League Player Serch Menu. Only League stats! http://www.kleague.com/ko/content/playersearch Footwiks (talk)

@Footwiks: Is there anywhere a source for K League#Records and statistics? List of all-time most appearances, goals, clean sheets, assists? Snowflake91 (talk) 13:00, 9 July 2017 (UTC)

K Leageu Official Site shows Only Top Player of All-Time Recors http://www.kleague.com/ko/content/dcphis There is another K League Stat Sites for Media. K League shows the media List of all-time most appearances, goals, clean sheets, assists.Footwiks (talk)

Award

		The Running Man Barnstar
		For the great work you have been doing for some time already on Slovenian football and for your positive atitude and collaboration on many articles, you deserve this award! FkpCascais (talk) 19:37, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

Ivan Kovačec

Can you check out the Ivan Kovačec's club career in English Wikipedia, Geman Wikipedia and Spanish Wikipedia.

Especially, From 2005 to 2009, Club careers are different.Footwiks (talk)

@Footwiks: Clubs are okay now, but obviously there are no stats for 2005-2009, those early clubs are croatian 4th / austrian 6th or 5th division, those leagues are fully amateur so no one collect stats for that, I only managed to find him on list of 2009-10 croatian 2nd league top goalscorers with 4 goals, but there are no number of caps. Snowflake91 (talk) 17:01, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

Also found stats for Jennerdorf; 15/17 in 2007-08, 14/6 in 2008-09 Snowflake91 (talk) 17:18, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

Thanks but one more question. Can you check out below career? Which is right?

2008 UFC Jennersdorf in Geman wiki
2008-2009 UFC Jennersdorf in English wiki Footwiks (talk)

@Footwiks: 2008, he joined in January 2008 and played last game in December 2008 Snowflake91 (talk) 07:38, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

Choi Yoo-jung (singer) article permission

Former I.O.I member Choi Yoo-jung will soon re-debut as a group Weki Meki. So that article seems to be need for update. But, the article is protected, so normal non-administrators like me are hard to contribute to edit. Of course, I don't edit it right now, but I request it because that will be necessary the permission relaxation. --175.223.21.72 (talk) 20:37, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

I am not an administrator so I cannot do anything about it, I cannot edit it either, the article was fully locked because it was constantly re-created even though the AFD consensus was "delete". Snowflake91 (talk) 20:43, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

Name

Is đ = dj in English Alphabet?

Đorđe Tomić = Djordje Tomic  ?

Miodrag Anđelković = Miodrag Andjelkovic ?

Footwiks (talk)

Yes thats correct, I think it is pronounced same as "J" in "정" Snowflake91 (talk) 07:45, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

Hungarian K League Player

Can you serch the any information about this player László Béhar? Actually, I'm not sure that László Béhar is correct name.

• László Béha – K League stats at kleague.com (in Korean)

@Footwiks: Pecha László most likely, date of birth is same as on k league (26.10.1963) Snowflake91 (talk) 13:12, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

What a Great! hu:Pecha László - This player is that I find! Thanks a lot!

Serbian K League Player

Can you serch the any information about thses players? I found name information. But I'm not sure. Minić and Branko is sure.

• Minić – K League stats at kleague.com (in Korean) 알렉산다르? 미니치 / Aleksandar? Minić
• Branko – K League stats at kleague.com (in Korean) 브랑코 보조비치? / Branko' Vojobic?

Footwiks (talk)

@Footwiks: Branko Božović, also confirmed that he played in Korea here, also date of birth is the same (21.10.1969). The other one, Aleksandar Minić sounds correct to me, I cant find any info, there is montenegrin footballer by that name, but born later in 1975 and not 1966. Snowflake91 (talk) 21:24, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

Thanks. I'm not sure Aleksandar is correct. Minic is all star member of 1995 season. He is important player of K League. If I get another information, I'll ask again. Anyway, Thanks a lot. Footwiks (talk)

@Footwiks: Finally found it after 1 hour of search, Boško Minić – there is a picture in hangul in the article with "66.10.24" birthdate, so its 100% him. Snowflake91 (talk) 15:56, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

: What a great! Good job! Thanks Thanks agian!Footwiks (talk)

K League Player career

Can you confirm the club career these player?

• club name in Rolandas Karčemarskas
• 1999 Qingdao ? in Dimitar Ivanov (footballer, born 1970)

Footwiks (talk)

Ljubiša Ranković

Can you check out Ljubiša Ranković?

Especially, I think below Part have something wrong
1992–2003 Partizan 71 (6)
1994–1995 → Rad (loan)
1995–1996 → Ilhwa Chunma / Cheonan Ilhwa (loan) 12 (0)
2002–2003 → Zemun (loan) 14 (0)
2003 → Sichuan Dahe (loan) 21

(1) Acutally, When he joined the Ilhwa, South Korean press announced that he came by normal transfer, not loan.

(2) Bascially, Russian and Ukrain wiki said as Belows
2002-2003 → Sichuan Dahe (loan) 21
2003 → Zemun (loan) 14 (0)

(3) Russian wiki and Ukrain wiki said he had south korean citizenship. But it's not ture. But I can;t correct them

[Russian Wiki]

[Ukrain Wiki]

[French Wiki]

Footwiks (talk)

Let's be friendly!

Hi Snowflake91, I came across the Sowon page through AfD, and I was rather surprised by some of the things I read there.

Your contribs suggest that you're a hardworking and experienced editor who does a lot for our community. Thank you. You were quite right to take the article to AfD. However, I wonder whether you could have done it in a different and better way.

You wrote to KJH, "you have no idea how Wikipedia works apparently". I think you were absolutely right about that! Why should they? They're a new user and it's reasonable to guess they're more interested in KPOP than online encyclopedias. That's why we have WP:DONTBITE. If I saw those messages full of unfriendly WP jargon, I'd be as scared or angry as KJH has been. I've left a message on KJH's talk page which suggests an alternative way. I'd hope we can still channel KJH's enthusiasm in a better direction.

We all have bad days and we all write things we regret. (I'm sure somebody else could write this message better than I am doing it!). I wish you the best of luck in your editing and hope that this has been constructive criticism on your work. Matt's talk 22:48, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

Dejan Damjanović

I have a question about Nationality of Dejan Damjanović When he played Incheon and FC Seoul during 2007-June 2008, He known as Serbia nationality. But He changed Montengro and played for Montengro national team.

Did he change nationality? If he did when he change? or Is he currently dual citizen Serbia and Montengro? Please serch the nationality of Dejan on the Serbian and Montengro press?

One more, Can you check out the International career 30 matches 5 Goal! Footwiks (talk)

I dont know, Montenegro didnt even exist before 2007, he would not make it to the Serbian team because he was not good enough back in 2007 so he opted to play for Montenegro, he is probably ethnic Serbian born in Bosnia, as far as I know you can have unlimited number of passports in Europe so he obviously has Serbian nationality as well Snowflake91 (talk) 10:02, 22 July 2017 (UTC)

OK, I also think that Dejan is dual citizen of Serbia and Montengro! Thanks a lot!

South Korea vs Yugoslavia

Today, I found, former Busan Daewoo manager Sekularac scored 2 goals at South Korea vs Yugoslavia of 1962 Wordl Cup Playoff

[1962_FIFA_World_Cup_qualification]

Were they famous player in Yugosalvia?
Sekularac
Čebinac
Galić
Radakovic
Jerkovic

Below is video of 2nd leg match in Seoul [[2]] Footwiks (talk)

Actually I dont know any of those player, I dont know anything about Yugoslav football from that period, only from 1980s onwards, but the national team finished 4th in 1962 WC so they are famous I guess. Snowflake91 (talk) 14:25, 22 July 2017 (UTC)

This Page is not yours

Bruh im just stating the facts! You are not the only one who wants to see where naeun is guesting! and are you a fan of taeun oh please that show ened 3 or 4 years ago get over with it. creepy saesang Kiri010 (talk) 19:14, 29 July 2017 (UTC)

WHAT THE HELL IS YOUR PROBLEM

If your such a fan of taemin and naeun why dont yiu just make your own page? crazy. Kiri010 (talk) 19:21, 29 July 2017 (UTC)

Hello.

"Undid revision 793263992 by 50.40.202.188 (talk) still unsourced; and do not add back controversial edits using IPs, this is called Wikipedia:Sock puppetry"

Was this for me? Dude, that IP isn't even mine. I'm from Brazil, the IP is from USA. lol
(feel free to apologize.) ~SolsticePrince 23:55, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

Please join the discussion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Loona_(band)#Animals_and_Colors ~SolsticePrince 12:07, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

Deceased Kpop idols?

Would it be a valid article?-76.174.35.70 (talk) 02:08, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

I dont think so, most likely not. Snowflake91 (talk) 08:41, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

How dis? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:List_of_Dead_South_Korean_Musicians -76.174.35.70 (talk) 15:23, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

90% of sources are not reliable. Snowflake91 (talk) 15:52, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

• Interesting--and sure, I don't consider AllKPop a reliable source. It seems to me that there is a suggestion behind this article: K-pop is dangerous to one's health, as note D. indicates: "Jumped from the 10th story window of her apartment complex, 1 month after her contracts with DSP ended. The company revealed there were no plans for her to debut in any groups at the time." There are eight, maybe nine suicides in there. If the sourcing is seriously improved, maybe, but perhaps this should be more explicit, in the light of this and this and a million other (less reliable) sites. Drmies (talk) 17:43, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

member section on kara

sunghee doesnt have her own page76.174.35.70 (talk) 05:04, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

EL

Hey Snowflake, I usually see you making good edits--thanks. But I have a question about this one: I can't tell if Lay's Sina Weibo page is really his own or not, but it seems obvious to me that http://lay.smtown.com/ is run by SM, and not by Lay. "Official" website thus means the official company site, but not his personal site. The difference may be meaningless to you, but I have seen too many K-pop articles where the artists are treated (by way of templates, in text, etc.) as company-owned commodities, and of course we all know they are under serious contractual obligations that bind their private lives as well. Still, I would support a link to a site that is as personal as can be, not one on a company website. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 17:22, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

You're right, I reverted it back to Weibo account in External links section, official website is already in infobox though. Snowflake91 (talk) 17:25, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

• Ha, I tried that Weibo link but had to login... I am not familiar with it, but a personal site that requires a login is actually worse than useless. Drmies (talk) 17:43, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

How about IMDb profile, or HanCinema? Snowflake91 (talk) 17:48, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

Well, we typically take the IMDb profile (and I suppose the HanCinema thing is similar, though I'd pick IMDb over Han) as a professional link, not a personal. My argument above is that the SM site is a professional link, though it is of course a different one. You know, I kept the Weibo link because a. it was on top and b. it seemed personal enough. Maybe the Instagram link is best as a "personal" link--many use Instagram in the way others use Facebook or a website. If that looks good to you, and you think the IMDb link is valuable, use those two? Thanks, Drmies (talk) 18:01, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

K League Challenge

제25조 (순위결정)

1. 정규 라운드(1~36R) 순위는 승점➡다득점➡득실차➡다승➡승자승➡벌점➡추첨 순으로 결정한다. 2. 최종순위 결정방식은 다음과 같다. 1) 최종순위는 정규라운드(1~36R) 성적에 따라 결정한다. 단, 정규라운드 2위~4위팀은 챌린지 플레이오프 결과에 따라 최종순위를 결정한다. 2) 챌린지 플레이오프 승리(승강 플레이오프 진출) 팀을 2위로 한다. 3) 챌린지 플레이오프에서 패한(승강 플레이오프 진출 실패) 팀을 3위로 한다. 4) 챌린지 준플레이오프에서 패한(챌린지 플레이오프 진출 실패) 팀을 4위로 한다. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.209.235.161 (talk) 09:25, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

KLeague Challenge Article 25

2) 챌린지 플레이오프 승리(승강 플레이오프 진출) 팀을 2위로 한다. Runners-up team is play-off winner. OK? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.209.235.161 (talk) 09:28, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

Sunny Hill Disbandment?

Earlier today, Sunny Hill was added to disbanded groups for 2017, and according to the article, Fav entertainment broke them up. I researched and havent found anything about a sunny hill disbandment, and the editor has no sources. Where is the disbandment mentioned online? Article here, just in case its false: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunny_Hill -76.174.35.70 (talk) 14:20, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

Nevermind, someone added a post from the group's official facebook-76.174.35.70 (talk) 14:58, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

Explanation for Lay

Could you please explain why you protect the antis delete award, endorsement and variety show section from Lay page? Witchying (talk) 10:07, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

@Witchying: Because Wikipedia is not a fanpage, variety shows are not notable per consensus at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Korea/Popular culture. For the awards, the person who removed them, stated "unclear: most of these are not notable, even more aren't verified, some are not clear whether they're EXO or him. clean it up)", and I didnt see any improvements since than, every award needs to be notable and have a citation. Endorsement section was entirely unsourced. Snowflake91 (talk) 10:17, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

The awards here in Wiki they're all notable in China and all himself not EXO. The person who removed this clearly knows nothing about him.

This is funny, just "clean it up" and erased the whole award section. Fanwar even comes to Wikipedia.

For the endorsement we will put every single source it refers.

We just got feedback today noted that someone deleted the whole section. Give us some time and we will edit it clearly with resource. Please recover it so we can start, thanks for the effort. Witchying (talk) 10:27, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

Endorsement section needs to include a reason why is this important for being mentioned, not only listing every single sponsorship deal he made. Girls' Generation#Endorsements are a good example of how the section should look like. Snowflake91 (talk) 10:36, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

• Witchying, this isn't a "fan war"--it's rather an effort to keep Wikipedia encyclopedic. If you don't agree, you can always turn to Wikia. Considering that apparently yours is a brand-new account I understand you don't know all our guidelines, but this is a good opportunity to learn them--and that also goes for you, Samekizofu. Moreover, these unexplained reverts are highly disruptive. Drmies (talk) 12:06, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

@Snowflake91 Hi, so what is the issue for the latest 2 endorsement editing for Lay page today?

We simply dont add every single sponsorship deal to the endorsement section, the section is already too huge. Look at some good or feature articles, like Bruno Mars, Katy Perry, Taylor Swift etc. how the endorsement should look like. Snowflake91 (talk) 09:52, 6 September 2017 (UTC)

Nikola Komazec

Hi Snowflake91, thank you for your comments in regards to the Nikola Komazec article.

In regards to adding Dejan Antonic's Chinese name, this was done based on precedent for other non-Chinese players who have played in Hong Kong. I am unfamiliar with the customs for footballers in Qatar or the Chinese mainland therefore, I can't speak to why they do or don't do it. However, if someone for example wished to add Hulk's Chinese name, I would have no objections.

I don't believe that adding a Chinese name for non-Chinese players would in any way mislead the reader into thinking that the footballer is Chinese. nath87 (talk) 00:18, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

Hello, only the birth names in their native languages are usually included in the lead, other transliterations are unnecessary, especially if he played only one season in HK. 08:07, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

NRG Timeline

Is this necessary?: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NRG_(South_Korean_band)#Timeline -76.174.35.70 (talk) 03:34, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

Also, can you add this photo to the infobox for NRG?: https://www.google.com/search?q=nrg+2017+comeback+kpop&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwipvIOPxoDWAhWk0FQKHW6OD7cQ_AUICygC&biw=1600&bih=770#imgrc=M1X8G3V7rRIWJM: -76.174.35.70 (talk) 03:37, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

This is them announcing the 2017 comeback.-76.174.35.70 (talk) 03:40, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

This is not a free image, it is owned by Yonhap News. Regarding timeline – I don't know, some articles have it, while others don't. Snowflake91 (talk) 08:04, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

How bout these? (sry if this annoys you)

https://www.google.com/search?biw=1580&bih=750&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=nrg+3+members+kpop&oq=nrg+3+members+kpop&gs_l=psy-ab.3...1438.2521.0.2791.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..0.0.0.R1_9K3XvryQ#imgrc=LV9e22bF6ZL90M:

https://www.google.com/search?biw=1580&bih=750&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=nrg+3+members+kpop&oq=nrg+3+members+kpop&gs_l=psy-ab.3...1438.2521.0.2791.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..0.0.0.R1_9K3XvryQ#imgrc=PgAJ66IWwrxWQM:

And also, can you publish articles? Cuz I have a few on the wait list. -76.174.35.70 (talk) 22:56, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

As I said, you cannot simply take random images from the web, they need to be published with FREE licence, 99,99% pictures on the web are copyrighted and not free and therefore cannot be uploaded here. Which articles do you want to publish? Snowflake91 (talk) 08:49, 2 September 2017 (UTC)

So far, I've been putting all my effort into making sure 2005 in South Korean Music gets published.: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:2005_in_South_Korean_Music -76.174.35.70 (talk) 21:05, 2 September 2017 (UTC)

I dont have reviewer rights so I cannot publish draft articles, try to submit it for review once more. Also in "Genre" table, you dont need to write "K-Pop Pop", this is weird, stick simply to "K-pop" or just "Pop". Also, there needs to be a lead section ("The following is a list...."), you can copy it from 2017 in South Korean music, just change the years of course. I already fixed it now though. Snowflake91 (talk) 21:25, 2 September 2017 (UTC)

InternetArchiveBot

I noticed you removed archive links and dead link tags created by InternetArchiveBot during an analysis of 2018 FIFA World Cup qualification – AFC Third Round. I am very glad you are going through the page and removing any passes you found to be false positives, but I also want to inform you in case you didn't know that the page for IABot also includes a section to report false positives. After removing links created by the bot, please consider filing a false positive report for said links. Thank you. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 17:13, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

It also helps to review this FAQ in case what I said was confusing to you. I have done you a favor and changed the "checked" parameter on IABot's Talk page post from "false" to "true". Hope I've helped you in some way. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 17:30, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

Slovenia team

Some people do good thing for slovenian basketball and then come Snoflake, which dont know nothing about basketball, end delete all. Very good, Slovenian basketball love you ....

@Bury 99:: Learn about how Wikipedia works in the first place, you never ever provide any sources for anything (like Olimpija article, which is entirely unsourced), you are only adding all kind of statistical, trivial, unsourced tables, and not prose of any kind. See WP:VERIFY and WP:NOSTATS for beginning. Snowflake91 (talk) 09:37, 3 September 2017 (UTC)