Administrators' newsletter – July 2020 edit

News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2020).

  Guideline and policy news

  Technical news

  Arbitration

  • Following the banning of an editor by the WMF last year, the Arbitration Committee resolved to hold an RfC regarding on-wiki harassment. The RfC has been posted at Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Anti-harassment RfC and is open to comments from the community.
  • The Medicine case was closed, with a remedy authorizing standard discretionary sanctions for all discussions about pharmaceutical drug prices and pricing and for edits adding, changing, or removing pharmaceutical drug prices or pricing from articles.

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Hi SlimVirgin, I'm an editor, mainly at Wikipedia in Spanish. I have written this article Camilo Prieto Valderrama about a Colombian environmentalist with publications and awards, as well as being an outstanding activist. I wish you could support me in keeping the article. Thank you very much. --3erres (talk) 18:06, 5 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

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Bnguyen1114 restriction edit

When you informed User:Bnguyen1114 today at his talk page that you have restricted his editing as an arbitration-enforcement action, you linked to his disclosure, which listed five politicians whom he has supported, financially or through volunteer work. However, one minute after posting that disclosure, Bnguyen1114 edited it, adding: I've taken pictures with Julian Castro, Kamala Harris, Jill Biden, and Jay Inslee. Julian Castro, Jill Biden, and Jay Inslee were not originally listed. Please clarify—does the restriction you imposed cover these other three as well? NedFausa (talk) 17:59, 8 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

Hi Ned, I'm in the process of considering this so that I can clarify for Bnguyen. The restriction currently covers Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, Claire McCaskill, Josh Harder, and their opponents, because he acknowledged having volunteered for them. I didn't add the person to whom he made a donation, although that probably should be added. And I don't know what "I've taken pictures with" means. What are your thoughts? SarahSV (talk) 18:14, 8 July 2020 (UTC)Reply
My thought is that you should state exactly which individuals his restriction includes, and specify whether it covers only that person's WP:BLP, such as Kamala Harris, or also closely related pages, such as 2010 California Attorney General election, 2014 California Attorney General election, 2016 United States Senate election in California, Electoral history of Kamala Harris, Hollingsworth v. Perry, Kamala Harris 2020 presidential campaign, and Political positions of Kamala Harris. NedFausa (talk) 18:40, 8 July 2020 (UTC)Reply
That the restriction covers closely related pages is understood, but I can spell it out. Why do you think it should include people he has taken photographs of (assuming that's what he meant)? SarahSV (talk) 18:49, 8 July 2020 (UTC)Reply
We should await Bnguyen1114's clarification, but he disclosed I've taken pictures with those people, not of them. Big difference. Posing with a politician at some event signifies a cozier relationship than standing in a crowd snapping pics at a distance. NedFausa (talk) 18:59, 8 July 2020 (UTC)Reply
It doesn't signify anything, Ned. It means I paid for a ticket and waited in line like everyone else. I have been photographed with: Jill Biden, Jay Inslee, Kamala Harris, and Julian Castro. Bnguyen1114 (talk) 19:31, 8 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

@SlimVirgin: With this edit, User:Bnguyen1114 has today willfully violated the arbitration-enforcement restrictions that you rightly imposed on him yesterday. I urge you to indefinitely site-block Bnguyen1114. By thumbing his nose at our COI process, Bnguyen1114 has signaled his commitment to ongoing disruptive editing. Enough is enough. NedFausa (talk) 14:52, 9 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

Sanction for pre-warning actions edit

Hi. Could I get your thoughts on my comment at Special:Diff/967061129? ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 23:57, 10 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

Notice of noticeboard discussion edit

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Regarding WP:BRD on Hypatia transracialism controversy edit

BRD requires that you raise a specific objection when you revert (the D aspect.) The only part of my edits that anyone objected to were the removal of Singal, so I assumed your sweeping revert (which removed cited additions!) was simply a mistake, and restored the other parts while carefully leaving Singal in. If you have objections to the other changes you have to lay them out - if you cite an objection to one part of an edit as a reason to revert the whole thing, obviously the proper way to go forward is to re-instate the parts that are uncontroversial. If your intent was to object to every aspect of the edit then you need to raise those objections specifically, otherwise there's nothing to discuss. --Aquillion (talk) 21:00, 15 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

Aquillion, if you continue to remove material without consensus, you risk being reported to WP:AN/EW. SarahSV (talk) 21:02, 15 July 2020 (UTC)Reply
It would be polite to actually glance at my edits before reverting them? The second one did not remove anything and, in fact, restored everything you objected to. It seems to me that you are the one revert-warring blindly; I have made every effort to engage and accommodate the objections people raised, specifically restoring the one thing people asked to not remove and leaving in other text as well in deference to your request that text not be removed, yet you reverted as well with only terse statement giving no indication as to why. Obviously I cannot seek consensus when nobody has raised a concrete objection to the parts you are reverting. Explain to me what removal in this edit (which carefully cut around the previously-raised objections and, therefore, did not remove any text) you found objectionable enough to require an instant revert, with no attempts at further discussion and no effort to actually answer my question on talk. --Aquillion (talk) 21:06, 15 July 2020 (UTC)Reply
SlimVirgin, Aquillion has been going through articles systematically and removing references, even attributed ones, to the media outlet Quillette (example) (while its listing at WP:RSP is not favorable, it's still not deprecated and has never had an RfC on it), and references to articles by Jesse Singal, even though they are published in good sources like The Atlantic. (example) Crossroads -talk- 22:34, 15 July 2020 (UTC) updated Crossroads -talk- 23:05, 15 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

A kitten for you! edit

 

Thanks for protecting my talk page!

Jorm (talk) 00:31, 22 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

You're most welcome. SarahSV (talk) 00:32, 22 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

A kitten for you! edit

 

found a link to your page on talk page of julian baggini. <3 am in a good mood reading while not totally paying attention, so decided to click to this kitten :)

Azzlelzza (talk) 05:33, 22 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

 
Hello SlimVirgin:

Thank you for your contributions to veganism – or vegetarianism – related articles. I'd like to invite you to join WikiProject Veganism and Vegetarianism, a WikiProject to improve veganism and vegetarianism articles on Wikipedia and coverage of these topics.

If you would like to participate or join, please visit the project page for more information. Thanks! Psychologist Guy (talk) 20:59, 23 July 2020 (UTC)Reply


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