Skitash

Your work on North Africa

Hi, I love your work, if you are French speaking, could you do the same thing on the French wikipedia? or at least translate the articles you create into French. HanKim20 (talk) 18:54, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

Hello, thank you for your appreciation of my work, I was looking forward to doing so soon. Skitash (talk) 19:27, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

Thank you, we need so much your contribution on the french wikipedia, I hope soon ^^. HanKim20 (talk) 13:05, 10 June 2023 (UTC)

Sockpuppet on French conquest of Algeria

I've created a SPI report here. Cheers — AP 499D25 (talk) 11:15, 23 June 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for reporting them. Skitash (talk) 11:28, 23 June 2023 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Arab migrations to the Maghreb

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Can you explain a revert you did in July?

Hi, could you please explain why you reverted my edit (different IP, it's dynamic) <here>? The citation still has the problems I pointed out when I removed it (and the text after it) which is that it was improperly done -> it circularly mentions a citation that existed back in 2007 when it was added, but does not appear to exist now.
Granted you or I could have tried finding said citation and made it correctly, but I didn't think it or the text after was really needed for that particular list, as it's linking to said page (and the text after it was seemingly never supported by citations). – 2804:F14:80FB:2E01:9513:7B7D:14E3:DEDD (talk) 00:54, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

It appeared to me that you deleted sourced content. The citation mentioned Talbi, whose book can be found in the Bibliography section of the page. Either way, I sourced the statement with a better and easily accessible citation. Skitash (talk) 13:18, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

Ah, that's fair, I must have missed it. Thank you for the explanation and for fixing the citation. – 2804:F14:80FB:2E01:9151:EF40:3E6C:C4A0 (talk) 23:00, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

No worries. Thanks for pointing out the issue with the source. Skitash (talk) 15:28, 21 September 2023 (UTC)

Gamal Abdel Nasser

Hello,

Why don’t you agree on putting a colored photo for Gamal Abdel Nasser page?

Thanks Masry684 (talk) 01:33, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

It is best to keep the original and non-artificial image. Also, you would have to seek consensus on the talk page before making such edit. Skitash (talk) 08:47, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

I understand you, you’re right. That’s why the last photo I put was originally colored, the one from 1969, it was not artificial.

Not to mention that the original photo existing now is not an appropriate photo for a president. Not any president from any country have the main photo of his page smiling this wide smile.

Please advise how to achieve consensus so I can succeed in this edit.

Thanks Masry684 (talk) 13:02, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

The last photo you added might not be the ideal choice as it seems to be a low-quality image from a social media platform. The current image seems satisfactory in my opinion, although I would not mind changing it back to this photo [1], which was previously used as the infobox photo. If you would like to seek consensus, please read Wikipedia:Consensus and start a discussion on the article's talk page. Skitash (talk) 14:18, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

Maghrebis

Hi, can you add your page on the Arab migrations to the Maghreb to this page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maghrebis?

The user "The Adam Truth" tries to misinform, he does the same on the French version of wikipedia (too bad you don't intervene there too, your article should be translated ...) HanKim20 (talk) 10:25, 10 November 2023 (UTC)

Will do. The article on Maghrebis appears to be excessively centered on one specific subject. I was looking forward to contributing information on various other topics to the page. Skitash (talk) 13:21, 10 November 2023 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Writer's Barnstar
	For your contributions to toward Arabic African countries. Thank you. It is appreciated. Best, Reading Beans (talk) 11:26, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

@Reading Beans Thank you very much. I appreciate the encouragement you've given. Skitash (talk) 11:30, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

Revert of Six-day war in October

Hi!

Sorry, but I don't understand how Saudi Arabia was not involved in the war when they deployed troops to Jordan who clearly was involved in the war. NecromancerOfEnchanting (talk) 09:46, 18 November 2023 (UTC)

The sources that were intended to support Saudi Arabia's involvement in the war only stated that Saudi troops arrived at Ma'an to strengthen the Jordanian defence positions in Jordan. They were not directly involved and did not take part in any fighting (e.g. in the West Bank). Please read this source [2] "Saudi Arabia played no significant role in the events leading up to the June war. No Saudi troops fought in the war—only a small detachment of Saudi troops entered southern Jordan to help the Jordanian military, but they arrived too late to fight." Skitash (talk) 10:58, 18 November 2023 (UTC)

oh ok thanks! NecromancerOfEnchanting (talk) 21:01, 18 November 2023 (UTC)

Laayoune or Laâyoune

Hi! In fact, Laâyoune has a â on the second A, it's written like this because when you pronounce you must make un inflexion on second A, it's transliterated from arabic. The Laâyoune without the â looks wierd, can you explain why we should not write it like it is written in the country ? Heralune (talk) 01:34, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Per WP:COMMONNAME, the most commonly used name should be favored. In this case, "Laayoune" is more widely recognized and used than "Laâyoune."[3] Additionally, the accepted name of the subject in the article body should be consistent with the title, which is Laayoune in this case, per MOS:LEAD. The Arabic transliteration belongs in the Arabic language template. Skitash (talk) 10:42, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard

You have been mentioned, here. --Kansas Bear (talk) 22:29, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for bringing this to my attention. The user's forum shopping is quite absurd. Skitash (talk) 22:39, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

Maghreb

Why Canary Islands, Spain and Sicily are not included? Lord Ruffy98 (talk) 20:59, 11 December 2023 (UTC)

You have to provide sources to support your claims per WP:VERIFY. The content you added was unsourced. Skitash (talk) 18:28, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

Discussion moved to WP:ANI#HJ72JH_reported_by_Skitash

Hi Skitash, I have moved the report from WP:AIV to Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents § HJ72JH reported by Skitash to allow discussion. Best regards, ~ ToBeFree (talk) 21:03, 11 December 2023 (UTC)

Thank you. Skitash (talk) 21:26, 11 December 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for your great work on Libyan genocide

Little to no awareness of this topic outside the MENA/Arab world seems to be nearly nonexistent. Great work here :)

I have a request about a discussion on the article, I think that the article scope should cover both the 1929-34 events as well as the 1911-43. This might better reflect the death toll section Kaspersky205 (talk) 01:16, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

Hi, thanks a lot for your thoughtful feedback and suggestion. The article predominantly focuses on the 1929-1934 events because this is the period that is widely perceived to be a time of systematic genocide carried out by the Italian state.[4] Nonetheless, I am open to broadening the scope to encompass all deaths under Italian colonization to better reflect the death toll section. Skitash (talk) 12:42, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

Sounds good! I appreciate your willingness to compromise, I am logged out right now sorry my connection is bad as I’m on a road trip right now.

How about making the death toll section say something like “85k-120k deaths (1929-34 only)”

and then below it “250k-750k deaths (wider definition of genocide” or something of the sort?

See Bosnian genocide for a good example of this 174.195.129.233 (talk) 17:16, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

About Algeria's Local vernacular

In an edit I did, which you reverted, I added Algerian Arabic as the Local vernacular, you said Algeria have many vernacular. Even that the page Algerian Arabic lists them, what do you want me to do so that my edit is good and intact and legit. Here are all the languages in Algeria according to SIL International:

• ajs Algerian Jewish Sign Language.
• aao Algerian Saharan Spoken Arabic.
• asp Algerian Sign Language.
• arq Algerian Spoken Arabic.
• kab Amazigh.
• cnu Chenoua.
• mey Hassaniyya Arabic.
• kcy Korandje.
• shy Tachawit.
• oua Tagargrent.
• thv Tahaggart Tamahaq.
• grr Taznatit.
• tjo Temacine Tamazight.
• tia Tidikelt Tamazight.
• mzb Tumzabt.

Should I include them all under the row Local vernacular ? or is there a way or ? Which is the best, or thi method to include the Local vernacular in the infobox and the edit is legit ? KaderRocket (talk) 11:19, 26 December 2023 (UTC)

In this scenario, there's no need for local vernaculars in the infobox; they can be included in the article's body, particularly under Algeria#Languages. The infobox should highlight the official languages. Skitash (talk) 11:34, 26 December 2023 (UTC)

There is a difference between official languages and local vernacular

it's also present in the pages Tunisia and Libya KaderRocket (talk) 13:33, 26 December 2023 (UTC)

The situation in Algeria is distinct due to its abundance of local vernaculars, making it unnecessary to list each one in the infobox. Tunisia and Libya are homogenous in terms of local Arabic varieties. Skitash (talk) 14:52, 26 December 2023 (UTC)

Not listing each of them in the infobox, but the most spoken one, it's already in the infobox it's just not under the classification (local vernaculars). KaderRocket (talk) 15:09, 26 December 2023 (UTC)

@Skitash You reverted my edits when I added local vernacular long time ago, but Mr Béton did it recently, I assumed good faith but that's unfair, Nwekl Rabbi. Mystrixo ✉️ 04:41, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia is already questioning the article you made Libyan genocide, absolutely outrageous

Talk:Second Italo-Senussi War#Proposed merge of Libyan genocide into Second Italo-Senussi War

Here is the discussion for it, I already replied to the user who proposed the article be merged, just thought you should know, best of luck and I am here to support you against Wikipedia’s anti muslim bias. Thank you 2600:1012:B106:E972:C5F9:49EF:42D3:69DE (talk) 20:48, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for bringing this discussion to my attention. I genuinely value your support. Skitash (talk) 21:39, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

No problem at all, good luck my friend. 174.195.135.123 (talk) 22:24, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

Saddam Hussein

Hello, I would like to know that why did you remove my edit of revision 1199039920 in Saddam Hussein. Kharbaan Ghaltaan (talk) 15:48, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

Please refer to my edit summary from 25 January. Skitash (talk) 17:41, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

What does it mean, I didn't understand. Pls explain me Kharbaan Ghaltaan (talk) 18:36, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

Making such decisions on Wikipedia requires WP:CONSENSUS among multiple editors. Kindly read the article for guidance. After then, you may initiate a discussion on the talk page of the relevant article, asking whether we should change the lead image. Feel free to ask if you need further assistance. Skitash (talk) 18:50, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

Revert on Pakistani military history

Didn't understand the revert on Pakistani military coups don't they count as military activity and same goes for ISI activities — Preceding unsigned comment added by Waleed Ukranian (talk • contribs) 15:38, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

You have not cited a single source to support your additions. Skitash (talk) 15:57, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

It's an obvious fact that Inter services intelligence is Pakistani military organisation and it's activities count as Pakistani and it's also obvious that Pakistani military coups are also a part of Pakistani history,

Btw tell me how to cite in this like list format I'll be thankful

And all the things I edited all these had sources on other wiki articles such as peacekeeping missions and for gulf war check Pakistani armed forces deployment Waleed Ukranian (talk) 16:01, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

Please read WP:CITE and feel free to ask any questions in the Teahouse for futher information. Skitash (talk) 16:26, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

What I wanted to know is that no other article name in the list was cited so why isn't there problem with those Waleed Ukranian (talk) 16:34, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

This is indeed a problem that needs to be addressed. Please consider sourcing anything that is unsourced if you have time. I will now tag the article with the relevant template. Skitash (talk) 16:53, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

Will you please revert some of the ones you deleted as they have clear Pakistai involvement such as military coups or ISI activities or peacekeeping missions Waleed Ukranian (talk) 17:02, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

Again, you will need to cite sources to support your claims. I suggest you read WP:Verifiability. It is not up to us to decide what is clear or not. Skitash (talk) 17:03, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

The ones I listed already exist on Wikipedia in other articles and I can show those Waleed Ukranian (talk) 17:19, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

Ummayad Coinage in The Land of Israel

Changing everything to "Palestine" is out of context. It's specifically for Ummayad coins from modern day Israel. DutchPatriot (talk) 21:20, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

Your article was full of copyright issues, POV and original research. As a result, it has been redirected to Umayyad Caliphate#Coinage following a discussion on the talk page. Skitash (talk) 12:15, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

I understand. DutchPatriot (talk) 13:47, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

Your revert on Arab–American relations

Dear Skitash, I hope this message finds you well. I'm writing to discuss the recent edits I made to the article on Arab–American relations, which were subsequently reverted by you. I deeply appreciate your dedication to upholding Wikipedia's standards and ensuring the accuracy of its content. However, I'm keen to understand the rationale behind reverting the edits I made, particularly regarding the inclusion of information on early Moroccan relations with America and the Barbary Wars. These historical events are pivotal in understanding the dynamics and evolution of Arab–American relations. The early interactions between Morocco and the United States laid the groundwork for diplomatic ties that have persisted to this day. Similarly, the Barbary Wars significantly shaped American perceptions and policies towards the broader Arab world. Given the importance of these topics, I believe their inclusion enriches the article and provides readers with a more comprehensive understanding of Arab–American relations. I'm curious to know why you chose to revert these edits and whether there are specific concerns or guidelines that influenced your decision. Furthermore, I'm open to discussing potential compromises or alternative ways to incorporate this information into the article while ensuring it aligns with Wikipedia's guidelines and maintains neutrality. Thank you for considering my request for clarification. I value your insights and look forward to engaging in a constructive dialogue to improve the Arab–American relations article collaboratively. Best regards, HockeyFanNHL (talk) 02:31, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

Greetings. I reverted your edits as it seemed to me that you deleted the entire lead section. I'm guessing that was unintentional, and I apologize if you were attempting to make good faith improvements to the article. Skitash (talk) 08:18, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for your response. I want to inform that there was nothing deleted, as I only added some extra information. There was no proper real lead paragraph to begin with. HockeyFanNHL (talk) 13:52, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

Notice of Dispute resolution noticeboard discussion

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in re: Reverting Tifinagh transcriptions

Per WP:BOLD, I added the Tifinagh transcriptions for the cities back only to see them reverted by you. I would like you to provide me a rational on how exactly is it irrelevant considering that both regional and government ministries made use of it, an article of the constitution puts Tamazight on the same level as Arabic, there is a law regulating the use of Tamazight (read here), and that you conceded that Morocco, as a diverse country by your own words, has at least 1/4 of its countrymen speak a Berber language with Tifinagh set at the writing system by law.

Your initial motives for reversion were because they were unsourced, I provided a source that this transliteration was used even by regional government. Now you are making the argument that it is irrelevant, then many multilingual countries such as Singapore must have every other transcription removed. v/r NAADAAN (talk) 21:07, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

Although Berber is an official language, its inclusion in every article about Moroccan cities isn't obligatory. The cities you've selected to include Berber text in are predominantly Arabophone and lack substantial Berber relevance. You have also added Tarifit text to Tangier, and I'm unsure why, as it doesn't seem relevant to Tangier at all. Additionally, I recommend reading MOS:FORLANG, which specifies that when an article's subject is closely associated with a local non-English language (in this instance, Arabic), then a single foreign language equivalent should suffice. Skitash (talk) 21:21, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

Was it required that articles like Algeria use French, even though it is not an official language contrary to Tamazight ?

But you and M.Bitton reversed my edits months ago when I removed French from an English article.

That's not fair. Mystrixo ✉️ 22:11, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

"Was it required that articles like Algeria use French" Where are you seeing this? The article does not feature French at all. Skitash (talk) 22:18, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

Let me include this then:[5] & [6] Mystrixo ✉️ 22:26, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

"The article does not feature French at all"

French:[7]

But Tamazight No, it was removed: [8]

I am not aiming at you or M. Bitton, but the editors edits were wrongfully undone.

I sincerely hope that we can all see this predicament and put an end to our arguments over it. Mystrixo ✉️ 22:47, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

Your revert of my work on the Arabization article

Hi, you reverted my entry to the Arabization article for lacking sources, but I did link to multiple other articles from Wikipedia that talk about everything I mentioned in much more detail and with proper citations and references. This is also how other entries on the same section are formatted, so I don't think my entry should've been reverted. Usev25 (talk) 23:09, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

Yes, that's fine, but you will also have to cite sources in the Arabization article per WP:V, otherwise readers would have to consult the linked articles to verify the sources themselves. Besides, the Pharaonism article does not seem to mention that it's supported by the government of Abdel Fattah el-Sisi and the Egyptian population. Skitash (talk) 23:18, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

I can do that, but why don't the other entries in this section also have citations? Or am I missing something obvious? I'm just asking to check the consistency across the board that's all. And the Pharaonism article does mention these two points by the way, in the "2020s resurgence" section. Usev25 (talk) 23:32, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

I'm talking specifically about the two points about Berberism and South Sudan's ascension. My entry followed a very similar format yet it's the only one that was removed. Why? Usev25 (talk) 01:32, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

You added new unsourced content so the burden is on you to provide sources for verification. If you’re suggesting that the entries for Berberism or South Sudan should be deleted or, ideally, supported with sources, please proceed accordingly. Skitash (talk) 13:18, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

Yeah I guess they should be removed until they're supported as well then. How do I proceed with that? Usev25 (talk) 19:30, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

About adding terminologies to Fertile Crescent topic

Hi, I've just read the rule that you've mentioned. I do partially think the same as the way the rule writes. If it gives an improper readability, it's okay to write only one terminological equivalent of one of the languages. But, what I'm trying to say is, while adding other languages' terms, the addition does not impair any readability. And I added the other languages, as I mentioned in my reason part. Wondering your thoughts and opinions on that. Goofygetsgriddy (talk) 13:47, 4 April 2024 (UTC)

Siege of Khan Yunis has an RfC

Siege of Khan Yunis has an RfC for possible consensus. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 15:57, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

Discerning Literary Arabic from Egyptian Arabic

Hey Skitash. Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Arabic#Consonants has a collection of guidelines which include transliterating ج. You redirected me to an old discussion about Egyptian Arabic inclusion for the article, Egypt, which is unrelated to my edit.

You are assuming something and you can't understand what I did.

• You are assuming that I am using Egyptian Arabic transliteration, which is a different dialect from Literary Arabic.

  I corrected the transliteration to be based on the guidelines of the Library of Congress transliteration

  • This list is not exhaustive. It should be noted that a letter in this group may have more than one phonetic value, depending on the country or area where it is used, and that the romanization will vary accordingly.

  UN

  • Also in Egypt and Sudan there exist local romanization schemes or practices side by side with the UN System. The geographical names of Algeria, Djibouti, Mauritania, Morocco and Tunisia are generally rendered in the traditional manner which conforms to the principles of the French orthography.

    The Survey of Egypt Systems (SES) of romanization has the following correspondences with the UN system: j = g (j)

• The Portuguese governmental website mentioned, actually copies from Wikipedia!

Why do you make me feel that using G by standards makes it a different language? It's the same language, Literary Arabic. --Esperfulmo (talk) 00:01, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

I don't know what you're thinking but Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Arabic#Consonants clearly mentions Egyptian Arabic and clarifies that g should be used "when a word is spelled with ج but pronounced /ɡ/". Using /g/ is an Egyptian colloquial feature that has nothing to do with Literary Arabic (the official language of Egypt). Egypt is officially known in Arabic as Jumhūrīyat Miṣr al-ʻArabīyah.[9] The RfC I redirected you to directly pertains to this issue, concerning the choice between Standard Arabic or Egyptian Arabic transliteration. Should you hold differing viewpoints, I welcome a constructive dialogue. However, if personal attacks persist, I kindly request that you depart from my talk page. Skitash (talk) 14:30, 8 April 2024 (UTC)