User talk:SiriSngi/Habronattus pyrrithrix

Outline feedback

Hi Sirisha, nice job on this! I like your plan to include the section on habitat use and diet at the start of the article. It may work well to combine all the subsections in the Mating and Reproduction section, and just have one or two paragraphs that combine all the information about courtship and mating. The predator deception subsection could be pulled out to the end of the article, since it describes a function of coloration that isn't involved in mating. Looks great overall, looking forward to the first draft of the article! Elioeilish (talk) 04:14, 21 February 2024 (UTC)

First Draft Feedback

Hey Sirisha, good first draft! I love how you included and clearly explained various concepts we learned in class and easily related them to your topic organism. I think something interesting to expand upon based on the paper we read would be cannibalism if it plays a big role in Habronattus pyrrithrix reproduction. You did a great job describing the importance of coloration in relation to reproduction for this species. I was wondering what characteristics are beneficial when courting in shaded areas since color is no longer an advantageous factor. Does their higher-quality diet result in better courtship displays or larger size to escape cannibalism? I thought the last section on predator deception was very cool and interesting to include. Since coloration isn’t important to these dorsal patterns, are there other ways they vary between males to be more/less advantageous? Perhaps you could add a few disputed hypotheses or lingering questions about your species's reproductive process to highlight the current state of research on your various subtopics. I think the order and flow of your article works wonderfully. You did a really great job at making the article readable/understandable but still including complex topics. It was a great draft overall and sets you up well for your final article! Sgreene11 (talk) 17:28, 17 March 2024 (UTC)

Hello! Thank you for the feedback! Here are the changes I made:

-I expanded on cannibalism in this species and explained how males may avoid or that aggression may be a quality assessor.

-mentioned that body size and condition may be more beneficial in shaded areas

-did not add too much on predator deception because there hasn't been much study done on it SiriSngi (talk) 19:18, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

First Draft Feedback

Hi Sirisha, I thought you did really well on your first draft! I think that your overall article was very well organized and easy to read. I also thought that you cited your sources a good amount which will help readers to easily reference other papers. Something that I think you could do is expand on how the red and yellow are linked to chemical defenses as it was a little unclear how the two were related. I also think you could explain what substrate-borne vibrations are or how they produce those vibrations. I think you did a really good job explaining their courtship behaviors and I found that part of the article to be very interesting. One more thing that I had a question about was how do they use their dorsal patterns. Does just flashing the predators deceive them or do they look like the patterns on wasps and bees which is what allows them to deceive them. Overall I think you did a good job and I enjoyed reading your article a lot! Ishabansal (talk) 10:55, 20 March 2024 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ishabansal20 (talk • contribs)

Hello! I appreciate your feedback! Here are the changes I made:

-explained that red and yellow colors in prey are associated with animals that are capable of using chemical defenses and their consumption by predators can be harmful

-explained what substrate-borne vibrations are and how they are produced

-the dorsa coloration plus the leg movement mimics wasp/bee movement and appearance (antennas); could not expand much because hasn't been much study done of this SiriSngi (talk) 19:21, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

Second draft feedback

Hi Sirisha, your draft is very good, and the information it contains is well organized. It is a good draft overall! Here I suggest some advice that you might find helpful: -Add an introduction about the species. What is it? Animal, plant, etc. Include some of its most important characteristics such as size, coloration, and any fact you find interesting. You might mention the family it belongs to. -Habitat and diet: Is there any reason for the species to prefer only blue, and not other colors about green, or brown? Are there any other color preferences? -Sexual dimorphism: there is a sentence saying "sexual selection favors the...". But, does it drive any diversification in this species (any subspecies, do they show variation in coloration)? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Megarhyssa6 (talk • contribs) 22:49, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

Hello! Thank you for the feedback! Here are some changes I made:

-I added a small intro about the species to clarify that they are spiders

-I removed the statement about preferring blue prey to clarify their color preference. I believe the blue preference was only observed in experiments.

-I clarified that sexual selection drives diversification of this species from others in the genus. SiriSngi (talk) 20:15, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

Second draft feedback

Hi Sirisha! Your draft is very good overall! I think you added a lot of interesting information and clarifications and I just have some questions that could help clarify the information more! Habitat and diet: Do they prefer the color blue for all of their prey, or do they all show the same color patterns? Sexual dimorphism: Just a clarifying question but do males show any specificity for females? I think adding information on male preference, if that is relevant to your research, could be helpful. It might be helpful to also define allospecific or add a hyperlink. Courtship: Maybe further explain why the difference in sun vs shade affects females preference. Specifically, why do those qualities show fitness in the different scenarios? I think the changes you made really helped clarify a lot of the information! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ishabansal20 (talk • contribs) 23:04, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi! Thanks for the feedback! Here are some changes I made:

-I removed the statement about preferring blue prey to clarify their color preference. I believe the blue preference was only observed in experiments.

-I did not add details about male preference as I focused more on female preference and its effects on males. This would be interesting to go deeper into though!

-I will add that the red coloration may not be as prominent in the shade, thus requiring females to observe other traits to assess males. SiriSngi (talk) 20:17, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

Second Draft Feedback

Hi Sirisha, you have a really strong draft with an abundance of information. I like the readability of your page as well, it gives concise information in a way that is not too hard to understand and avoids wordiness. One thing that I might recommend adding would be giving a quick statement that it is a species of spider, I wasn't sure until you stated that they prey on "other spiders". I was also wondering if there were any benefits expressed regarding the females' cannibalistic tendencies, maybe similar to what we have talked about in class. Overall I think your article was very well written and provides sufficient information about your species of choice. I thought it was a great read! TouchetteRoman (talk) 22:50, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

Hello! Thank you for your feedback! Here are some changes I made:

-I added a small intro to establish they are spiders early on.

-Since cannibalism in this species is a form of sexual conflict, I believe the only benefit is to the females. I'll make sure to mention that. SiriSngi (talk) 20:20, 25 April 2024 (UTC)