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Dear Shyamal, thank you so much for your kind words and guidance. I am a newcomer, and it will take me a while to get used to Wiki. I was just browsing and saw that there are so few photographs on the site with regard to Indian Butterflies. I am a bit crazy about photographing them and have photos of most of them, and this can be seen on my site, Butterflies of Karnataka so that you can guide me how best I can help the site. Thank you. Santosh 16:12, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Shyamal, that would be a good, worthwhile and ofcourse lengthy task. A number of our lep articles lack descriptions. Ofcourse Bingham will have a huge number of description, so maybe I should make a list of all the articles written so far which dont have descriptions (complete articles, not stubs). We will tackle this list first, then I suppose we can move on family by family, genus by genus or something. Today I dont have the time to make this list I will begin tomm. What thinks you? --Viren 06:13, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Hey, Viren, Shyamal bung in raw text, I'll format later on.

• I plan to use the description of Bingham without change in wording but with artificial sectioning, bolding etc thrown. This is a must for readability. It will remain as a blockquote in description section only and not merged into the fused common descriptions of mine from the other sources.
• Secondly, other stuff like status, habits will be moved to the concerned sections. If the material is large and necessary to retain ad verbatim, then I shall do as for the Description section. If the information is short and not consequential, for example, just a couple of lines, I plan to mingle it with the text with or without (Bingham) attribution as suitable.

Wherever you put in Bingham material, please add the reference at the bottom. This is IMPORTANT guys.

I've already done up the first article before my leave. I think it was Pontia callidice. Readability is as important as leaving the quote unchanged, so a suitable via media is proposed above for implementation.

Comments. please.

Regards, AshLin 13:28, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Fine. And here is another little key that might help. I just made it using M$ Paint. Looks rather garish, wonder if someone can make it in SVG with possibly with colours that look good under monochrome as well. Shyamal 15:52, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Melanitis, etc.

Hi, and thanks. We'll see how things work out for me on Wikipedia - I'm not so good with the fine details, like including links, references, images, maps, and other peripherals, but what I *can* offer is solid background information. I have a feeling that getting that foundation will be contribution enough, if Wiki works the way it's intended. As for the Melanitis, your supposition is actually pretty logical, given that one of the defining features of Satyrines is swollen costal vein bases - which is, structurally, virtually identical to male Hamadryas' wings (though clearly evolved independently). I've never heard a Melanitis or other Satyrine make a noise, myself (I saw a few in Thailand once), and I'm sure that might be instructive. If you've got specimens, you might examine them to see if there's any sexual dimorphism in the costal swellings.

Peace,Dyanega 16:38, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Shyamal, add Tawny coster pix from Wikimedia

If you cant find them in Nymphalidae category page, see the gallery of Nature Loader. AshLin 17:11, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

So why havent you added your coloured pix to Comstock-Needham article?AshLin 17:12, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Dont think it belongs to the Comstock-Needham page. That has a good image for naming conventions. Instead see this one and improve it. User:VirenVaz/Glossary

Barnstar for you

Moved Barnstar to User Page where it should proudly reflect the quiet contribution by Shyamal. Well done, partner! Beer's on me! You have really done us proud! AshLin 15:11, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Spangled Drongo

Is it OK to move this to Hair-crested Drongo, as there is another dicrurus species called Spangled Drongo. Cheers Smallweed 14:42, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Death row image, how?

Gurjar has said self-work, he has given cc-2.5-sa license. So what more is needed? AshLin 17:54, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject Page is up

Dear Shyamal,

WikiProject Lepidoptera page is up. Request your vetting, reorganisation and knowledge addition. AshLin 06:07, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Xylocopa

Hi. The Xylocopa page is one that needs a serious overhaul, as it was originally (and not quite appropriately) written about a single species - much of the existing text needs to be removed to a species-level page, and the Xylocopa page needs to be entirely re-written so it applies to ALL Xylocopa. I've got this on my to-do list, but lower priority than the higher classification problems I'm finding. Peace, Dyanega 18:42, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Meinertzhagen

Yes, my question did indeed come up because I had just read the Rasmussen article. I didn't mention this on the talk page, but the article indicates that most of the work Meinertzhagen must now be considered suspect, and that there was even some deception in his account of the Haversack Ruse. I wish I could provide you with a copy, but it's not available on the NYer's website -- if I were you, I'd go to the local library. :) Thanks! — Adam Conover † 19:27, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks... a personal reason for me to put material on wikipedia is that I do not have such a thing as a local library :( Shyamal 10:15, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Call of the Indian Cuckoo

Its OK and quite clear. I heard it on WinAmp 5.2(x86) on WinXP. It sounds slightly different from the Himalayan Indian Cuckoos which had a clear four note call with all four notes accented (like the first four notes of Popcorn tune which used to be played for Sports round-up in the good old days of DD TV). We listened to them day in and during nights too at Dehradun during training. How did you record it so clearly? Did you digitally treat the sound wav file? Regards, AshLin 05:00, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Ladakh

Nice to see your edits to the wildlife section. Thanks! deeptrivia (talk) 05:04, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Turtle moves to common names

Hi Pengo, this is regarding the move for Aspideretes leithii to one of its common names. The name Nagpur Soft-shell Turtle is rather contrived (and not very suitable since the name specifies a geographic region and the species is found beyond that region) and hardly in use although noted in the EMBL database. I would defer any moves to common names for reptiles and amphibians in general until someone on the reptile and amphibians project offers a reference 'standardized' list of common names. Shyamal 07:11, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

No problems. Will be more cautious in future. Thanks for pointing this out. —Pengo 07:17, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Thomas Hardwicke

Hard to believe it is not T Hardwicke commemorated in Uromastyx_hardwickii, given the author is Gray and the date 1827. I thought perhaps F.R. was a relative, although according to the Natural History Museum website Thomas never married, although he did have five children. I've googled the name of the publication, and just as many sources give T. Hardwicke as the author. So F.R. would seem to be an error. Smallweed 08:55, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Barnstar

Thank you very much for the barnstar. It is much appreciated. Smallweed 15:45, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Harpegnathos

Hi. Looks fine to me - it does cite a reference that describes the jumping mechanism, and I know they *do* jump. What is unclear is whether other members of the genus do so. Dyanega 16:00, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

White Admiral

Hi, I'm quite new to Wikipedia (my first edit was on March 31^{rst). I'd like you to go check Talk:White Admiral (where my "problem" is exposed) and tell me what I should do. Pro bug catcher 23:46, 7 June 2006 (UTC)}

List of Butterflies of South Asia up for deletion

Do we care about it going. I think it can be deleted without any loss. Maybe one day when we get around to making list for Srilanka and Pakistan, we could revive it. But rhight now seems a distant view. --Viren 03:07, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Reason for minor edit to author

Shyamal, can you educate me as to why the tear needs to be inside the bracket and not outside as I had placed it? Regards, AshLin 06:15, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, started reLepindexing Lycaenidae, keeping this in mind. AshLin 14:43, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Senior-White

I need to go to the library (in hope) to find Senior-White's (By Buxton) obituary but I have quite a lot on him already. He was evidently a leading expert on malaria as well as a very significant Dipterist and wrote extensively on both.I will, unless you wish to, write a page on him *under Entomologists very soon.

• in which case I'll let you have what I have so far.

All the best from Ireland. Looks like it is going to be a nice day.Notafly 08:45, 12 June 2006 (UTC)