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June 2019 Tree of Life Newsletter

 
June 2019—Issue 003


Tree of Life


Welcome to the Tree of Life newsletter!
Newly recognized content

  Masked booby by Casliber and Aa77zz, reviewed by Jens Lallensack
  Rook (bird) by Cwmhiraeth, reviewed by J Milburn
  Vernonopterus by Ichthyovenator, reviewed by Super Dromaeosaurus
  Campylocephalus by Ichthyovenator, reviewed by Super Dromaeosaurus
  Unionopterus by Super Dromaeosaurus, reviewed by Ashorocetus
  Big Cat, Little Cat by Barkeep49, reviewed by J Milburn
  Félicette by Kees08, reviewed by Nova Crystallis

Newly nominated content

  Masked booby by Casliber
  Adelophthalmidae
  Plains zebra by LittleJerry
  Letter-winged kite by Casliber



Relative WikiWork
Project name Relative WikiWork
Cats
4.79
Fisheries and fishing
4.9
Dogs
4.91
Viruses
4.91
ToL
4.94
Cetaceans
4.97
Primates
4.98
Sharks
5.04
All wikiprojects average
5.05
Dinosaurs
5.12
Equine
5.15
Bats
5.25
Mammals
5.32
Aquarium fishes
5.35
Hypericaceae
5.38
Turtles
5.4
Birds
5.46
Australian biota
5.5
Marine life
5.54
Animals
5.56
Paleontology
5.57
Rodents
5.58
Amphibians and Reptiles
5.64
Fungi
5.65
Bivalves
5.66
Plants
5.67
Algae
5.68
Arthropods
5.69
Hymenoptera
5.72
Microbiology
5.72
Cephalopods
5.74
Fishes
5.76
Ants
5.79
Gastropods
5.8
Spiders
5.86
Insects
5.9
Beetles
5.98
Lepidoptera
5.98
Spineless editors overwhelmed by stubs

Within the Tree of Life and its many subprojects, there is an abundance of stubs. Welcome to Wikipedia, what's new, right? However, based on all wikiprojects listed (just over two thousand), the Tree of Life project is worse off in average article quality than most. Based on the concept of relative WikiWork (the average number of "steps" needed to have a project consisting of all featured articles (FAs), where stub status → FA consists of six steps), only seven projects within the ToL have an average rating of "start class" or better. Many projects, particularly those involving invertebrates, hover at an average article quality slightly better than a stub. With relative WikiWorks of 5.98 each, WikiProject Lepidoptera and WikiProject Beetles have the highest relative WikiWork of any project. Given that invertebrates are incredibly speciose, it may not surprise you that many articles about them are lower quality. WikiProject Beetles, for example, has over 20 times more articles than WikiProject Cats. Wikipedia will always be incomplete, so we should take our relatively low WikiWork as motivation to write more articles that are also better in quality.

Editor Spotlight: Showing love to misfit taxa

We're joined for this month's Editor Spotlight by NessieVL, a long-time contributor who lists themselves as a member of WikiProject Fungus, WikiProject Algae, and WikiProject Cephalopods.

1) Enwebb: How did you come to edit articles about organisms and taxonomic groups?

  • Nessie: The main force, then and now, driving me to create or edit articles is thinking "Why isn't there an article on that on Wikipedia?" Either I'll read about some rarely-sighted creature in the deep sea or find something new on iNaturalist and want to learn more. First stop (surprise!) is Wikipedia, and many times there is just a stub or no page at all. Sometimes I just add the source that got me to the article, not sometimes I go deep and try to get everything from the library or online journals and put it all in an article. The nice thing about taxa is the strong precedent that all accepted extant taxa are notable, so one does not need to really worry about doing a ton of research and having the page get removed. I was super worried about this as a new editor: I still really dislike conflict so if I can avoid it I do. Anyway, the most important part is stitching an article in to the rest of Wikipedia: Linking all the jargon, taxonomers, pollinators, etc., adding categories, and putting in the correct WikiProjects. Recently I have been doing more of the stitching-in stuff with extant articles. The last deep-dive article I made was Karuka at the end of last year, which is a bit of a break for me. I guess it's easier to do all the other stuff on my tablet while watching TV.

2) Enwebb: Many editors in the ToL are highly specialized on a group of taxa. A look at your recently created articles includes much diversity, though, with viruses, bacteria, algae, and cnidarians all represented—are there any commonalities for the articles you work on? Would you say you're particularly interested in certain groups?

  • Nessie: I was a nerd from a time when that would get you beat up, so I like odd things and underdogs. I also avoid butting heads, so not only do I find siphonophores and seaweeds fascinating I don't have to worry about stepping on anyone's toes. I go down rabbitholes where I start writing an article like Mastocarpus papillatus because I found some growing on some rocks, then in my research I see it is parasitized by Pythium porphyrae, which has no article, and how can that be for an oomycete that oddly lives in the ocean and also attacks my tasty nori. So then I wrote that article and that got me blowing off the dust on other Oomycota articles, encouraged by the pull of propagating automatic taxoboxes. Once you've done the taxonomy template for the genus, well then you might as well do all the species now that the template is taken care of for them too. and so on until I get sucked in somewhere else. I think it's good to advocate for some of these 'oddball' taxa as it makes it easier for editors to expand their range from say plants to the pathogenic microorganisms of their favorite plant.
My favorite clades though, It's hard to pick for a dilettante like me. I like working on virus taxonomy, but I can't think of a specific virus species that I am awed by. Maybe Tulip breaking virus for teaching us economics or Variola virus for having so many smallpox deities, one of which was popularly sung about by Desi Arnaz and then inspired the name of a cartoon character who was then misremembered and then turned into a nickname for Howard Stern's producer Gary Dell'Abate. Sorry, really had to share that chain, but for a species that's not a staple food it probably has the most deities. But anyway, for having the most species that wow me, I love a good fungus or algae, but that often is led by my stomach. Also why I seem to research so many plant articles. You can't eat siphonophores, at least I don't, but they are fascinating with their federalist colonies of zooids. Bats are all amazing, but the task force seems to have done so much I feel the oomycetes and slime moulds need more love. Same thing with dinosaurs (I'm team Therizinosaurus though). But honestly, every species has that one moment in the research where you just go, wow, that's so interesting. For instance, I loved discovering that the picture-winged fly (Delphinia picta) has a mating dance that involves blowing bubbles. Now I keep expecting them to show me when they land on my arm, but no such luck yet.

3) Enwebb: I noticed that many of your recent edits utilize the script Rater, which aids in quickly reassessing the quality and importance of an article. Why is it important to update talk page assessments of articles? I also noticed that the quality rating you assign often aligns with ORES, a script that uses machine-learning to predict article quality. Coincidence?

  • Nessie: I initially started focusing on WikiProject talk page templates because they seem to be the key to data collecting and maintenance for articles, much more so than categories. This is where you note of an article needs an image, or audio, or a range map. It's how the cleanup listing bot sorts articles, and how Plantdrew does his automated taxobox usage stats. The latter inspired me to look for articles on organisms that are not assigned to any ToL WikiProjects which initially was in the thousands. I got it down to zero with just copypasta so you can imagine I was excited when I saw the rater tool. Back then I rated everything stub/low because it was faster: I couldn't check every article for the items on the B-class checklists. Plus each project has their own nuances to rating scales and I thought the editors in the individual projects would take it from there. I also thought all species were important, so how can I choose a favorite? Now it is much easier with the rater tool and the apparent consensus with Abductive's method of rating by the pageviews (0-9 views/day is low, 10-99 is med, 100-999 is high...). For the quality I generally go by the ORES rating, you caught me. It sometimes is thrown off by a long list of species or something, but it's generally good for stub to C: above that needs formal investigation and procedures I am still learning about. It seems that in the ToL projects we don't focus so much on getting articles to GA/FA so it's been harder to pick up. It was a little culture shock when I went on the Discord server and it seemed everyone was obsessed with getting articles up in quality. I think ToL is focusing on all the missing taxa and (re)organizing it all, which when you already have articles on every anime series or whatever you can focus on bulking the articles up more. In any event, on my growing to-do list is trying to get an article up to FA or GA and learn the process that way so I can better do the quality ratings and not just kick the can down the road.

4) Enwebb: What, if anything, can ToL and its subprojects do to better support collaboration and coordination among editors? How can we improve?

  • Nessie: I mentioned earlier that the projects are the main way maintenance is done. And it is good that we have a bunch of subprojects that let those tasks get broken up into manageable pieces. Frankly I'm amazed anything gets done with WikiProject Plants with how huge its scope is. Yet this not only parcels out the work but the discussion as well. A few editors like Peter coxhead and Plantdrew keep an eye on many of the subprojects and spread the word, but it's still easy for newer editors to get a little lost. There should be balance between the lumping and splitting. The newsletter helps by crossing over all the WikiProjects, and if the discord channel picked up that would help too. Possibly the big Enwiki talk page changes will help as well.

5) Enwebb: What would surprise the ToL community to learn about your life off-Wikipedia?

  • Nessie: I'm not sure anything would be surprising. I focus on nature offline too, foraging for mushrooms or wild plants and trying to avoid ticks and mosquitos. I have started going magnet fishing lately, more to help clean up the environment than in the hopes of finding anything valuable. But it would be fun to find a weapon and help solve a cold case or something.
June DYKs

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A glass of Thandai for you

 
A glass of Thandai for you
Here is a glass of Thandai for you. Thandai is a traditional Indian cold drink prepared with a mixture of almonds, fennel seeds, watermelon kernels, rose petals, pepper, vetiver seeds, cardamom, saffron, milk and sugar.

Thank you.

Titodutta (talk) 18:55, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

For more Indian dishes, visit the Kitchen of WikiProject India.

Thanks, is there a new script to post these Indian dishes? @Titodutta: - btw, let me know anytime you need that scanner. Still being put to use on a near daily basis. Shyamal (talk) 03:47, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

Tree of Life Newsletter

 
July 2019—Issue 004


Tree of Life


Welcome to the Tree of Life newsletter!
Newly recognized content

  List of felids by PresN
  Masked booby by Casliber
  Letter-winged kite by Casliber, reviewed by Jens Lallensack
  Plains zebra by LittleJerry, reviewed by starsandwhales
  Ornithogalum umbellatum by Michael Goodyear, reviewed by Jens Lallensack
 


Newly nominated content

  Letter-winged kite by Casliber
  Megabat by Enwebb
  Onychopterella by Super Dromaeosaurus
  Dvulikiaspis by Super Dromaeosaurus
  Kosmoceratops by FunkMonk
  Clussexx Three D Grinchy Glee by Hunter Kahn
  Giant golden-crowned flying fox by Enwebb
  Myxomatosis by Rabbit Vet

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Administrators' newsletter – August 2019

News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2019).

  Guideline and policy news

  Arbitration

  Miscellaneous

  • Following a research project on masking IP addresses, the Foundation is starting a new project to improve the privacy of IP editors. The result of this project may significantly change administrative and counter-vandalism workflows. The project is in the very early stages of discussions and there is no concrete plan yet. Admins and the broader community are encouraged to leave feedback on the talk page.
  • The new page reviewer right is bundled with the admin tool set. Many admins regularly help out at Special:NewPagesFeed, but they may not be aware of improvements, changes, and new tools for the Curation system. Stay up to date by subscribing here to the NPP newsletter that appears every two months, and/or putting the reviewers' talk page on your watchlist.

    Since the introduction of temporary user rights, it is becoming more usual to accord the New Page Reviewer right on a probationary period of 3 to 6 months in the first instance. This avoids rights removal for inactivity at a later stage and enables a review of their work before according the right on a permanent basis.


Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 19:24, 3 August 2019 (UTC)

Your RM close (Cyaniris semiargus)

Hey there, I think your close at Talk:Cyaniris semiargus ended up malformed - the {{RM top}} template needs to go at the very top, just below the section header, and you need to remove or replace the {{Requested move/dated}} template. Otherwise the bot won't remove it from the list at WP:RM or remove the RM notice from the article. Also, it's quite unusual to close an RM so soon after it's opened, without any discussion having taken place. At the very least, I think it would be good to give some rationale in your closing message for why you think this qualifies for a speedy close, rather than staying open for the standard seven days. (See also WP:RMCLOSE). Cheers. Colin M (talk) 17:24, 4 August 2019 (UTC)

@Colin M: I saw it as a non-controversial taxonomic update and I normally do these routinely as bold moves. I have added a note there. Hopefully now no longer malformed. Shyamal (talk) 02:03, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

Tree of life discussion

You just removed my reply? Chiswick Chap (talk) 07:32, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

Oops, definitely unintended.... Shyamal (talk) 07:34, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
OK! Chiswick Chap (talk) 07:40, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

Mail notice

 
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Daniel Case (talk) 16:47, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

@Daniel Case: - responded. Shyamal (talk) 09:52, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

Page move request 26

Hello Shyamal, I would like to request a move of Yucatania sphaeroidocladus to its monotypic genus page. The genus page is currently a redirect with negligble page history. Thanks, Loopy30 (talk) 11:44, 27 August 2019 (UTC)

  Done Shyamal (talk) 11:47, 27 August 2019 (UTC)

Page move request 27

Hello Shyamal, I would like to request a move of the monotypic class Homoscleromorpha to its order page Homosclerophorida. The order page is currently a redirect with some minor page history. Thanks again, Loopy30 (talk) 19:33, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

  Done Thanks Shyamal (talk) 22:47, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

A year ago ...
 
birds of India illustrated
... you were recipient
no. 2010 of Precious,
a prize of QAI!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:39, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

🙏 Shyamal (talk) 22:55, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

List of birds of India

Clements v. IOC discussion moved to Talk:List of birds of India. Shyamal (talk) 05:27, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

Shyamal, I've finished updating the India list. Many splits and genus changes were never done. I didn't know if you wanted to look thru. I changed English names to the IOC English names, not sure if there are any local names you prefer over the IOC.....Pvmoutside (talk) 19:22, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
Looks ok now. Shyamal (talk) 10:47, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

Page move request 28

Hello Shyamal, Could you move the article of the former order Astrophorida to its now accepted taxon of suborder (at the page Astrophorina). The destination page is currently a redirect. Similarly, could you move Spirophorida to its now accepted taxon of Spirophorina? Thanks, Loopy30 (talk) 01:25, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

  Done Shyamal (talk) 02:12, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

You are aware...

... that the article is at this moment being read by a GA reviewer? Thanks. Chiswick Chap (talk) 10:31, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

I saw that it has been nominated, but is there any issue if I find (and hopefully fill) some gaps in the article? Shyamal (talk) 10:34, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
Timing not ideal, but evidently you're going to anyway. Chiswick Chap (talk) 07:38, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
Alright, will steer clear until the review is completed. Shyamal (talk) 07:54, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

Can you help at AN

Wondering if you can be of any assistance at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#Bird Sanctuary as you seem to have dealt with this before. Especially if there are any affected pages/talk pages you're aware of that haven't been found, it would probably be useful for us to know. Nil Einne (talk) 14:45, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

@Nil Einne: - yes, I have seen this, I thought it was a misguided editathon but I have not been able to get those editors to communicate. I guess just dealing with this the normal way with reverts will be the best course. Shyamal (talk) 15:07, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

Page move request 29

Hello Shyamal, I would like to request a move of Bradytriton silus and Nyctanolis pernix to their respective monotypic genus pages. The genus pages are currently redirects with some page history. Thanks, Loopy30 (talk) 00:23, 14 October 2019 (UTC)

  Done Shyamal (talk) 00:46, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
Thanks Shyamal, could you also move Parvimolge townsendi to its monotypic genus page? The genus pages is currently a redirect with minimal page history. Loopy30 (talk) 13:13, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
  Done Shyamal (talk) 00:30, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

Happy Diwali 2019

  Happy Diwali!!!

Sky full of fireworks,
Mouth full of sweets,
Home full of lamps,
And festival full of sweet memories...

Wishing You a Very Happy and Prosperous Diwali.
Titodutta (talk) 11:57, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

Send Diwali wishings by adding {{subst:Happy Diwali}} to people's talk pages with a friendly message.
@Titodutta: wishing you a happy Diwali too! Shyamal (talk) 13:26, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

Page move request 30

Hello Shyamal, a happy Diwali to you. When you are free, could you a move Pseudobufo subasper to its monotypic genus page? The genus page is currently a redirect with minimal page history. Thanks, Loopy30 (talk) 01:55, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

  Done Shyamal (talk) 03:00, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
And another request - Atopophrynus syntomopus, also to its monotypic genus page. Thanks again, Loopy30 (talk) 00:59, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
  Done Shyamal (talk) 04:34, 1 November 2019 (UTC)

use of authority control and DEFAULTSORT templates

As of October 15, 2019, for the Wikipedia page for William R. Horsfall, there is no "authority control" template and there is no "DEFAULTSORT" template. The "authority control" template creates links to various library resources and should generally be used for scientists and/or authors. The "DEFAULTSORT" template is needed to override Wikipedia's sort on the leading letters of the title page — if the "DEFAULTSORT" template is omitted, as in the case of William R. Horsfall, then the sort occurs on "William" instead of "Horsfall". Suslindisambiguator (talk) 17:55, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

Will try to remember the DEFAULTSORT template. Shyamal (talk) 04:35, 1 November 2019 (UTC)

October 2019 Tree of Life Newsletter

 
October 2019—Issue 007


Tree of Life


Welcome to the Tree of Life newsletter!
Newly recognized content

  Meinhard Michael Moser‎ by J Milburn
  Paleocene by Dunkleosteus77, reviewed by Casliber
  Clussexx Three D Grinchy Glee by Hunter Kahn, reviewed by Valereee
  Halloween darter by Enwebb and Cwmhiraeth, reviewed by J Milburn
  Deathwatch beetle by Cwmhiraeth, reviewed by Enwebb



Newly nominated content

  King brown snake by Casliber
  Paleocene by Dunkleosteus77
  Megarachne by Ichthyovenator
  List of canids by PresN
  Devils Hole pupfish by Enwebb
  Dryomyza anilis by AnuBalasubramanian
  Plasmodium knowlesi by Ajpolino
  Black coral by Aven13

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