User talk:Shirt58/Archive 6

December 2010

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Proposed deletion of Kang Seung-Yoon(musicion)

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Merry Christmas

Merry Christmas (Col 1:16) History2007 (talk) 16:04, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Vandal-fighting

Thanks for your vandal-fighting on Messiah. Something to look out for - some IP addresses like to renew their IP mid-vandalism. This makes it so that if someone rolls back their edits, their first edit (made under a slightly different IP) doesn't get reverted. All that to say - be careful what version gets reverted/rolled back to, because they're crafty lil vandals... anyway, thank you!

-- Joren (talk) 12:59, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

J.D. Salinger

Hello, I noticed that you added J. D. Salinger to the Deaths in 2010. Salinger actually died on January 27, 2010, not December 27, 2010! He died nearly a year ago, so I have undone the edit. Thank you. WereWolf (talk) 00:33, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

It's totally fine, I understand completely! There's no need to be embarrassed; we all make mistakes sometimes! WereWolf (talk) 17:59, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

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i.e PROD

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Cristóvão de Aguiar

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Proposed deletion of Cristóvão de Aguiar

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Not appreciated

Reverting talk pages is not a good plan. Please don't. FYI [1]. Please don't revert that. Aaadddaaammm (talk) 11:34, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

I agree; I would not consider those edits to be 'vandalism'; it looks to be an attempt at a discussion. Can't see anything wrong with them.  Chzz  ?  12:04, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Page created by blocked user

Thanks for tagging Foolkit Australia for deletion as a page created by a banned or blocked user. I have deleted the article and blocked the account that created it. However, it is worth mentioning that it took me some time to find the blocked account in question, and I wouldn't have blamed any admin who just declined the speedy deletion for want of evidence. It is worth indicating what blocked user you are referring to: Just a couple of words in an edit summary are enough. JamesBWatson (talk) 13:21, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Screenwise

Hello Shirt58. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Screenwise, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: The article is not substantially the same as the deleted version. A new deletion discussion is required. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 05:43, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Labor Split

I've made a comment about Queensland on the talk page for this article. Pestbuda (talk) 12:01, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

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Toto's Pizza House

Could you please help me. I created the page Toto's Pizza House and then moved it to User:Pestbuda\Toto's Pizza House, and on realising I used the wrong slash moved it to User:Pestbuda/Toto's Pizza House. I've tried to move it to Toto's Pizza House and have been told I cannot. Could you please help me move it to just Toto's Pizza House. There are a lot of things I need to put on it but if it can be put on WP proper I think it will be OK. I've also put links, which was a silly thing for me to do before creating the article.

If you could help me I'd be very appreciative, or if you cannot suggest another administrator familiar with this problem, which must have occurred before. Thank you.Pestbuda (talk) 12:23, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

 Done. Snowolf ^{How can I help?} 12:30, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Meyer Children's Hospital of Florence or Meyer Children's Hospital?

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Meyer Children's Hospital of Florence is the existing article, but the better title would be Meyer Children's Hospital - it's the one that it:Ospedale Pediatrico Meyer links to, it's the direct transltion, and would appear to be the better choice per WP:TITLE. So here's the question: if I copy all the info in Meyer Children's Hospital of Florence to Meyer Children's Hospital, and make Meyer Children's Hospital of Florence a WP:REDIRECT to Meyer Children's Hospital, is that going to fuddle both pages' edit histories?--Shirt58 (talk) 10:58, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Yes, it is. What it needs is to delete the new one per A10 and move the old one to that title leaving a redirect. I'll just check there are no problems, and then do that. JohnCD (talk) 11:12, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Ha! I beat you to it, JohnCD! I was just coming here to let you now I had done it, Shirt85, and also to suggest that in future the best way to deal with this situation is to tag the article to be deleted with {{db-move|page to be moved|reason}}. So in this case you would have tagged Meyer Children's Hospital with something like {{db-move|Meyer Children's Hospital of Florence|Better title - no disambiguation needed.}} JamesBWatson (talk) 11:17, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

(edit-conflict) JBW got there first. For future reference: you were quite right to ask before copying the information across. That's called a WP:Cut and paste move and causes problems with the history, which we have to maintain because the license terms require maintaining attribution for all contributions. If the destination doesn't exist, you can do a "move"; if it does, you need admin assistance because the move involves deleting what is at the target address. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 11:22, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

banane fredde, amici miei.--Shirt58 (talk) 11:36, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Banane fredde? Sì, è un buon idea. Ne mangerò uno subito. Mi piacciono le banane. JamesBWatson (talk) 13:01, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

John Coney (silversmith)

Thanks for tagging John Coney (silversmith) for the right projects. I just wondered why it was tagged for MilHist, since he has nothing military in his history. Mind you, I have no problem with the tag, MilHist is one of the best working projects around here, but I don't see the connection... Fram (talk) 14:02, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Marcus lane

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Simply moved "Marcus lane" to Marcus Lane. Please don't shoot me, I'm just the piano player, erm, messenger. :-} --Shirt58 (talk) 10:00, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Sorry 'bout that. Looks like we saved our respective revisions of the article a few seconds apart, with yours finished first. Please disregard the CSD nomination above, although will nominate it for CSD as an R3 instead. ThanksE Wing (talk) 10:15, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

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It is being played on a cello, isn't it?

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Peter Kosminsky

Please see User talk:Peter Kosminsky#Peter Kosminsky Wiki page. I think you may owe him at least a partial apology. Qwfp (talk) 08:59, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

 Done--Shirt58 (talk) 12:21, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

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Münchener Kammerorchester

Hello Peter, German name or English? I typically go for the original name, s. Thomanerchor. To my understanding they are well known in Europe under their German name. But if that's not true, let's say they did recordings under an English name, I would start the article under that name. I don't have time to find out myself right now, thanks for your interest, an article - whichever name - would be great! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:26, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the start! The English name is acceptable, but not in the history section, it was founded German, smile. Interesting question: when was it called an English name first? Names of instruments (and instrumentalists) not capital unless in a title, please. Happy collaboration, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:40, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your note! My English wasn't quite up to what I wanted to express: you can't say "he founded the Munich Chamber Orchestra", because they "founded the Münchener Kammerorchester", of course, they didn't think international then. Therefore I left it neutral and only wanted to explain that. I found many more links to the English name in WP. More to come, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:22, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your note and getting it started, was on my to-do-list for a long time and would have stayed there without you. Next round let's share! Did you see: I started two of the four conductors also, smile. I met Mr. Stadlmair once, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:47, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

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Reversion

Hi, can you please explain why you made this reversion on my talk page? I cannot see any reason for it, and you left no explanation in the edit summary. Thanks.--Korruski^Talk 12:00, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

Replied on your talkpage. --Shirt58 (talk) 09:31, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Ok, thanks. Gotcha. In this situation it would be much better if you just used the normal undo button, so that you could add an edit summary, as people who aren't aware of the AN/I discussion aren't likely to be very happy about unexplained reverts on their talk pages.--Korruski^Talk 22:40, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Having problems NehruR42

Yes, I would very much appreciate your assistance. The main problem seems to be the with contacting the Wikipedia site. Sometimes the show preview and save page commands result in an end-less wait state. Internet function is fine - just says waiting for en.wikipedia.com. — Preceding unsigned comment added by NehruR42 (talk • contribs) 08:41, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Having problems NehruR42

Main problem is that pressing the preview and save functions result in an endless wait state for en wikipedia org to respond — Preceding unsigned comment added by NehruR42 (talk • contribs) 08:47, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Thank for your offer of assistance - NearuR42

I'm really struggling with some sort of connectivity concerns - when I press review or save things seem to go into an endless wait state for en wilipedia org to respond. the other problem is I can sign as that key seems to not register having some other function. — Preceding unsigned comment added by NehruR42 (talk • contribs) 09:21, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your offer of assistance - NehruR42

I'm really struggling with some sort of connectivity concerns - when I press review or save things seem to go into an endless wait state for en wilipedia org to respond. the other problem is I can sign as that key seems to not register having some other function. Somewhere it was pointed out to me that a signature funct icon appears above the save function - I can't see it at all.

Thanks for your offer of assistance - NehruR42

I'm really struggling with some sort of connectivity concerns - when I press review or save things seem to go into an endless wait state for en wilipedia org to respond. the other problem is I can sign as that key seems to not register having some other function. Somewhere it was pointed out to me that a signature funct icon appears above the save function - I can't see it at all. — Preceding unsigned comment added by NehruR42 (talk • contribs) 09:34, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your offer of assistance

Yes Peter, I would very much appreciate you offer of assitance in regard to correctly creating sub-pages. What I write seems to disappear with an explaination that I should be using a sandbox which I would have thought that I am already doing (but obviously not - so hence the confusion. I seem to be also having some connectivity problem - when I use the Show preview or Save page functions it seems to go into an endless wait period for wikipedia to respond - but no local connectivity problems. I'm now at an internet cafe and the same problem here (Show preview doesn't work)but at home both Show preview and Save page doesn't work - is this something to do with Wikipedia or something I'm doing wrong.?

Thanks for your offer of assistance

Yes Peter, I would very much appreciate you offer of assitance in regard to correctly creating sub-pages. What I write seems to disappear with an explaination that I should be using a sandbox which I would have thought that I am already doing (but obviously not - so hence the confusion. I seem to be also having some connectivity problem - when I use the Show preview or Save page functions it seems to go into an endless wait period for wikipedia to respond - but no local connectivity problems. I'm now at an internet cafe and the same problem here (Show preview doesn't work)but at home both Show preview and Save page doesn't work - is this something to do with Wikipedia or something I'm doing wrong.? — Preceding unsigned comment added by NehruR42 (talk • contribs) 10:44, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Creating and structuring sub-pages

I first signed-up to Wikipedia yesterday. I hope I am not being judged on my contrubutions to date; trying to get to grips with using the Sandbox in my userspace is my prime aim at this time, I'm still at the ABC stage. You made some comment before about how I had structed my sub-pages - I was hoping you can advice how I can better or arrange so that I can practise. I hope that, in time, I may be able to contribute towards Wikipedia - but for now bogged down in the sandbox stage. I have the qualifications and working experience however, severely lacking in anyting Wikipedia. I hope you can help me to achieve advancing the aims of Wikipedia. Thnaks again for your offer of assistance.--NehruR42 11:22, 20 March 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by NehruR42 (talk • contribs)

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Requirements for attribution for translations from Wikipedias in languages other than English

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{{helpme}} I'm currently working on the List of Kangxi radicals project, and have translated some text from the corresponding Japanese Wikipedia project. As far as I am aware, I can't simply translate from wp:ja without attribution, as it would be a violation of the CC-BY-SA 3.0 License and the GFDL. Could some fellow Wikipedian possibly give me some guidance about this? As always, colleagues, thanks all for all your ongoing help! --Shirt58 (talk) 12:01, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

Hi. It's fine to translate from the jawiki article, as long as you say where it came from. You can do that with a message on the talk page - and there are templates to help.

Give me a few minutes, and I will add one for you - and let you know, right here. Cheers,  Chzz  ►  12:06, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

OK; I added the code {{translated page|ja|康熙字典|version=36886727}} to the talk page of the article, with this edit.

Notice the small box near the top, Article contains a translation of « 康熙字典 » from ja.wikipedia.

That shows that some text on the page comes from the ja article 康熙字典 - and it gives the specific version number of that article, 36886727 - which I got by looking at the history of the jawiki page; note the URL of the most recent version is;

• http://ja.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E5%BA%B7%E7%86%99%E5%AD%97%E5%85%B8&oldid=36886727

...and that is where I took the number from.

That fulfills the requirements of the CC-BY-SA, because we've shown where the text came from.

For more info about that, see Wikipedia:Translate#How_to_translate and Template:Translated page.

I hope that makes sense; if you need further help, please ask again. Best,  Chzz  ►  12:18, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

d-mned fine work. Thank you indeed!--Shirt58 (talk) 12:33, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

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Kangxi radical articles

Peter,

• Actually, I was completely unaware of the Jyutping romanization system for Cantonese! Nonetheless, I think having a modern romanization method is a good idea, as it makes for good comparison opportunities with the older and more pervasive Yale romanization system (sort of like Pinyin vs. Wade-Giles). As for adding a Jyutping category to the infobox, that'd be a wonderful addition but I have no idea how to parse the scripting used for mediawiki templates. :(

• Well, including all possible readings for hiragana, kanji, hangul and hanja transliterations might be overkill, so I guess I tend to lean towards only including first-mentioned ones from the ja: articles. It'd be nice to have an idea which readings are most common (Japanese words have on and kun readings, so having at least one example of both such readings seems adequate to me. I think Korean has the equivalent of on and kun but I have less knowledge about that language in general.

• This is something that I'm still trying to figure out myself. I'd like to add all such information if feasible but so far I can't tell how I'm going to go about that.

Okay, I just found this article section about Chinese characters of Korean origin (known as Yakja). It looks like only specialized terms and personal names use this written form, thus the reason for only romanized entries in the Sino-Korean section of radical infoboxes (i.e., the written radicals are unchanged when used in Korean). Cheers! Bumm13 (talk) 15:53, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

Just a couple of other points: I'd like to get someone good with mediawiki/template scripting to add the functionality used in the German wikipedia's radicals infobox that shows links (as a radical number) to the previous and next radical articles with triangles as guide arrows. Having this feature would help in navigating these articles while making content additions to them. Also, please don't convert the external links into inline sources in reference to the number of characters a particular radical is based on, as I got that information from en: wikipedia's List of Kangxi radicals article and not the Unihan database (no biggie, but I don't want to cause source confusion). Regards, Bumm13 (talk) 14:38, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

Re: Back to business

Okay, I saw that you updated the Kangxi Radical Infobox documentation but not the template itself. After testing the template in my personal sandbox, I found that updating it wasn't as difficult as I initially thought it would be. There are now usable entries for Jyutping and Cantonese Yale for the infobox! I also updated the article (Radical 211) used as the example in the template documentation. Cheers! :) Bumm13 (talk) 13:43, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Crikey dot com dot au. And here was me, all set to quote Wittgenstein :-) --Shirt58 (talk) 14:05, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

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