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Bush, Minim and Kofeirs

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Anyway, I took the line out of the Bush article because it's really an editorial comment. While it may well be that Bush chose Christ as his favorite philosopher because he couldn't think of any other philosophers, there are many solid arguments for classifying him as such. [1] [2] [3] Thomas Jefferson, who was not a Christian, saw Christ as a philosopher and even wrote extensively on his philosophy. [4] You're right, he was a religious leader first and foremost, but that does not mean that he can not be seen as a philosopher.

You may have noticed by now that the edit you made to Jesus has also been removed. In case you miss the edit summary (that page tends to get changed a lot, and edits can quickly get buried) it was removed here because that fact is stated in the intro paragraph. I believe that's a change that's been made and removed before, so if you really think it should be in that paragraph, you might want to try starting a discussion on the Talk Page before putting it back in, as it will probably just be taken out if you don't try to talk it out first.

Also, out of curiosity, what question was unresolved that led you to remove the lines you did from the Minim disambig page? It seems like it would be useful to anyone who wanted to look up the word and only knew one of the three alternate terms.

Anyway, welcome to Wikipedia! -- Vary 16:52, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

That's interesting, about the minim. It seems like defining the word should be a simple matter, but it's clearly pretty complicated. Well, when you finish your thesis, I'm sure you'll be able to add a lot to the Minuth and Minim articles!

Since you seem to know the subject, maybe you can shed some light on why the word 'kofeir' on the Minuth page has an external link to a bio for one Richard Joel? On the surface, considering that the page says that a kofeir is an unbeliever, and Mr. Joel is the president of a Jewish university, it seems like it might be a jab or an in-joke? It certainly doesn't seem to add anything that will aid the reader's understanding of the word, but I could easily be missing something, because I've never heard the term before. -- Vary 04:22, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

Cool, I thought so, but I wasn't sure. Nice additions to the Minuth article, by the way. -- Vary 16:20, 20 December 2005 (UTC)