User talk:Ser Amantio di Nicolao/Archive 13
Baby Colin Powell
editWhen you get home, tell me if you see the resemblance here Dr. Blofeld White cat 15:00, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
I just noticed that most if not all of all those Croatian castle stubs I started a year ago have been expanded! I'm about to do the same with Austria. Dr. Blofeld White cat 15:44, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
Barnstar
editThe Bio-star | ||
For making stubs about rivers instead of long, unwikified articles about how you can pwn me in my sleep. I dream of horses (talk) 02:03, 7 July 2009 (UTC) |
Thanks
editThanks for making new page patrolling easier tonight. Wperdue (talk) 02:07, 7 July 2009 (UTC)wperdue
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Belgian castles
editHey I just stumbled upon this and check out the
. If you have time can you help add a few images from the commons to the stubs I've created? Dr. Blofeld White cat 12:05, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
Yeah the castles will need tagging too for the country and miltary project fortificaitons task force. Soon enough I'll have 1000 new castle articles started on here. P.S hurrah for Brazilian rivers!! Nice work! 13:21, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
I think I reached D with Castle of Dave LOL. There are a huge number of images. I heard that many Americans are fascinated by European castles and medeival architecture. Is this true? Dr. Blofeld White cat 13:37, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
Yeah I think it has to do with the fact that it is due to most Americans coming originally from Europe and that America is a relatively new country so earlier architecture doesn't exist there (well not on European scale anyway), I dare say there are many ancient Indian settlements in the states. Well, I'm from the land of castles and I must admit I've always found them fascinating also. Check out Category:Castles in Wales. The dungeon of Castell Coch is awesome! When you drive past on the highway you see this lonely secluded castle on the hill, very eerie! Dr. Blofeld White cat 14:11, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, that's what I thought, nothing substantial. I guess it was called the "New World" for a reason! Dr. Blofeld White cat 14:33, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
Phew that's 600 new articles today over 1000 already for July! Thanks for the help. Maybe you could red link the rest of the South American rivers this evening and we can get them started! P.S> did you notice the Colin Powell baby lookalike? Dr. Blofeld White cat 21:42, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
Geography Barnstar
editThe Brazilian Geography Barnstar | ||
To my friend, Albert Herring, for last nights Brazilian river articles! Your considerable efforts have not gone unnoticed Dr. Blofeld White cat 13:28, 7 July 2009 (UTC) |
- I'll add my thanks to turning my river list links from red to blue. I went back through the state lists and added more rivers to some of them, I've started checking the PT wiki and adding in rivers that had articles there if I could verify them. For new state lists I'll do that from the start, finished Bahia today, thought I'd get to Goias, but it's going to be later in the week. Kmusser (talk) 20:16, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
Wow that's impressive! I think thats how we have gained several thousands of articles in a few days between us!! I'm having an off day today. I've overdone the exercise this morning and my head feels funny like it has been starved of fuel! I think I burned off too many calories and it has affected my concentration! Dr. Blofeld White cat 13:54, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
Part of the problem was dehydration I think, my head feels a little better now after several gallons of cold water! I'll keep a low profile today and maybe add some infoboxes or something. Dr. Blofeld White cat 14:14, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
You aren't left-handed like me by any chance are you? I do a lot of things with my right hand like holding a mouse, playing guitar the normal way and playing golf right handed as normal but my strong hand is my left which I've always used to write, play tennis with etc. Left handed people are supposed to be very creative and are talented musically, artistically and in writing. Dr. Blofeld White cat 15:18, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
Music and writing I think are where my real talents lie, I'm fairly good at painting and drawing but very average compared to a lot of people, including my father and especially my Aunty. I had an A+ in graphic art at school anyway but I wouldn't say I'm talented at drawing and painting. I come from a family of artists, writers and musicians though so at least I can tick two of the boxes! My sister actually is also better at writing and music than art. My mother is useless at art so maybe it is her influence and why we are only average! My mother is an outstanding pianist though! Dr. Blofeld White cat 15:29, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
Ah singing is my weaker point I'm afraid. I would be good with some voice training and I can still sing fairly well along with guitar but that isn't my real talent. LOL you have a degree in art history but can't draw! I'm not the best either in all honesty but I also find the history of art interesting! Dr. Blofeld White cat 15:38, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
I'll let you finish List of lakes in Nova Scotia eh? Dr. Blofeld White cat 13:32, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
Well there are too few people involved in drives to start content on here so somebody has to do it. I do get a little disappointed that we aren't utilising the full potential of bots on here on a daily and consistent basis. I also laugh greatly at whoever wrote the wikipedia:growth article and that they predict by the time we reach over 3 million articles "we may run out of topics to write about". There will ALWAYS be topics to write about and missing articles. Dr. Blofeld White cat 13:50, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
Well the thing is wikipedia should be at a stage where we are increasing our contacts and requesting government data and statistics on specific topics like geography and ecology and then doing something in an organized way using a bot to standardise new articles and make them consistent with adequate info. In fact there should even be a research department on here which fopcuses on compiling government sources and sending out requests for documents and papers. Although gradually us human editors get content onto here it is done in an extremely uneven way and could be done much quicker with more information. The tremendous bias on here means that many people are not interested in other parts of the world like Africa, Latin America and Asia and even many of the lesser prominent countries of Europe like Latvia and Estonia etc sothe amount of editors willing to work hard on such areas is very slim. At least a bot which recognises each country equally would be able to work evenly in the way an encyclopedia should. I guess there is nothing we can do about the bias but a bot would certainly be a step in the right direction if it could create articles with adequate info to start with. Dr. Blofeld White cat 14:08, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
Yeah and remember I estimated we'd hit 3 mill on July 4th? I was way out, which only shows that our growth is slowing in new content. We used to have around 1700 or 1800 new articles every day now it seems it is little over 1000, well if we are quiet anyway, We'll be lucky to hit it by October at the current rate. I guess there are only so many soap opera actors and characters and American sports bios and team season articles that many can create!! Of course we do get a number of good new articles on traditional encyclopedia subjects but I'm sure you've also noticed the high number of football/lower league baseball/basketball bios and team season articles that keep popping up on the new pages, and just further development in US sports and local radio stations etc as if we are somehow deficient in this area!! Dr. Blofeld White cat 14:45, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
Oh yes there are a number of good new articles on decent encyclopedic topics which we ought to be proud of it is just when I see all the articles on like 1879 Nicks season etc LOL and a minor league baseball coach and some 15 year old soccer player I sometimes think are we the only people who think globally and in a neutral encyclopedia way on here. I just started Category:Portuguese-language novels and I was shocked it was missing. If you think how many notable novels are likely to have been written by the top Brazilian and Portuguese authors it makes our coverage of the subjects seem very lacking. Now compare this category to Category:English-language films. INevitably there will be bias but it is just very extreme in places. I'll start a few now per requests, the requests have been there for years and they still haven't been started! Dr. Blofeld White cat 15:31, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
If you are interested see Wikipedia:WikiProject Missing encyclopedic articles/List of notable books in Portuguese. Dr. Blofeld White cat 15:33, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
You mean when you enter the missing article space? I know. OK I'll get on with starting these novels anyway. I've asked if there is a way you can subst: the surname of biography articles I create in the DEFAULTSORT for the categories to make generating them more efficient. If I can find a way to program it to default sort automatically by the last name I'll aim at getting more bios from the other wikis onto here. Dr. Blofeld White cat 15:40, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
If I can also organize a bot to read birth/death dates afterwards then it would mean we would be free to generate at a natural rate of 5 a minute, even more with AWB SO the categories on other wikipedias can be copied and the articles blue linked. Dr. Blofeld White cat 15:48, 9 July 2009 (UTC) Having serious connection troubles today, I'll entrust you to finish off those Nova Scot ia lakes and New Zealand rivers! Dr. Blofeld White cat 15:37, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
I'm using my mums user computer at the moment and it seems OK at the moment. I'll try my connection again later. Phew it took my 55 minutes to use my evil genius to figure out how to fricking change this!! We now at least know where places are in my native Belgium! Dr. Blofeld White cat 19:00, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
Ultimately my main goal on wikipedia is to have an article of the highest quality on every village and town, municipality and province in any country of the world, to be able to explore any region of the world in the most amazing detail and quality and depth. But the work needing doing standardising and improving articles on towns in the US, Canada and Europe let alone in the developing world is very overwhelming. A bot should be doing a lot of the work I do not me!! We are getting there anyway, but it is very slow and tedious manually. Dr. Blofeld White cat 19:51, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
Well I have 43 districts to work through in Category:Czech Republic district templates to get the municipalities onto here. Ideally a bot should do itas I doubt I'd have the patience and willpower to add details to every single one of them to start with. We could sub stub them but like with France the work required to will them out afterwards will be very substantial. There really should be more bots up for tasks like this. Thhe two I can think of who might do it, Kot|Bot and Polbot are on holiday and I doubt Fritzbot will make a single edit so... Dr. Blofeld White cat 20:30, 10 July 2009 (UTC) Mmm looks as if we are going to have to do it that way. As long as they are started using the syntax I'm using with infoboxes and hidden text in the article for developers to add to later. Can't help but feel a little disappointed with the way the others don't see the initiative. This sort of work really should be done with a bot and with data first time. we have how many bots plastering tags on people talk pages but noone will run a bot to copy data from another wikipedia. Disappointing isn't it! Dr. Blofeld White cat 20:43, 10 July 2009 (UTC).
Content like this. Dr. Blofeld White cat 20:50, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
I think I can manage for the time being. Best not to copy the syntax from some of my earlier ones anyway as annoyingly I noticed I left as stray "46" in the infobox in coordinates. Grrrr. I'll resume tomorrow anyway. Dr. Blofeld White cat 21:58, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
Yuck a slight error. When you have a moment can you AWB fix the infoboxes in the articles I've started from Bernardov to Schořov and remove the word market town and replace it with village? If you check my contributions you'll see the batch for Kutná Hora District. Obviously the ones in italics are the real market towns not the others. Grrr!. Dr. Blofeld White cat 19:57, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
Thanks, I'm nearly always ultra careful but there is occasionally one niggling error that pops up!! Dr. Blofeld White cat 20:10, 11 July 2009 (UTC) Did Nova Scotia earlier. NZ shouldn't be a problem providing you use the regional geo stub categories. Dr. Blofeld White cat 21:36, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
Apparently {{DEFAULTSORT:%%key%%}} works with AWB for category defaulting. Try it. Dr. Blofeld White cat 15:44, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
Nice progress with the rivers! If you are feeling hungry for more red links later you may as well join my czech project and help me start them now I've found my rhythm and have ensured no mistakes in creating. I've started one from each district Bdín and Bezděkov pod Třemšínem so basically all you need to do is is subst:PAGENAME and just drill them. That would then mean the most populated region of Czech Republic would have been started. Dr. Blofeld White cat 20:37, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
Nice! Dr. Blofeld White cat 12:29, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
Oh I have the rest of the Czech Republic to start, I've just finished one region. There are thousands missing. Check out the existing templates. By sure though when you start them you have the right region! Dr. Blofeld White cat 14:05, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
Also don't forget List of rivers of Bolivia and the German politicians. Dr. Blofeld White cat 14:11, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
List of German Christian Democratic Union politicians. When I have time I'll be drawing up more lists like this for well just about every subject. Dr. Blofeld White cat 14:24, 13 July 2009 (UTC) The next czech templates are Template:Jičín District, Template:Náchod District, Template:Rychnov nad Kněžnou District and Template:Trutnov District. Dr. Blofeld White cat 14:27, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
Thanks buddy! I haven't had one of those! Well lists are definately the best way to root out what is missing! Dr. Blofeld White cat 14:37, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, check out this and the rest of the dams in that prefecture. Remember I started off a big series on dams in Japan and templates? This of course was the idea, I get so motivated when I see them expanded and other editors take the initiative to expand them. Dr. Blofeld White cat 21:11, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
Emailed. Dr. Blofeld White cat 16:00, 14 July 2009 (UTC) LOL did you see this. Horses in nappies, good un! Dr. Blofeld White cat 20:00, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
Touton cells
editHi AlbertHerring, Thanks for the help with the Touton cells pages, i've still a lot to learn about editing and creating pages... :) --Nimorn (talk) 14:35, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
New Zealand rivers
editHi Albert - if you're going to be making any more NZ river stubs, can you please make them with the approriate provincial stub tages (e.g., {{Otago-geo-stub}}, {{Waikato-geo-stub}} etc) rather than simply {{NewZealand-geo-stub}}? The main NZ category has grown by over 100 stubs which need re-sorting overnight - and all with such little information that it's going to be quite a job to find where they all are! Grutness...wha? 23:54, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
- I've set the NZ Wikiproject onto the task - hopefully it'll be able to locate all these rivers. Grutness...wha? 02:12, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
The discussion about this at WP:NZWNB, there is a specific template to use also: {{LINZ}}. XLerate (talk) 04:46, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
Hi again - I don't know much about what info is at LINZ, other than what's been mentioned at WP:NZWNB - if stubbing by province can be done from that it'd be a big help, but the list's starting to cut down thanks to WPNZ. Sorry to have sounded annoyed - the work is good work. It was just a shock to see the usual list of 24 unsorted NZ geo-stubs suddenly blow out to 150+. Some warning at WPNZ would have been nice, though :) Grutness...wha? 06:37, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
HI Albert - no, please continue mqaking them! It's good to have a basic stub fo each one, and it's got the NZ projectr moving on improving them. Better to have them there than not have them at all, and if you're willing to do them, then it saves someone else the work ;) Grutness...wha? 07:47, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
Why?
editWHY do you wanna delete forcecast
Brazil river stubs
editLooks like there might be a bug, some of the AWB generating stubs are getting repeated sections - see Aguapeí River as an example. Kmusser (talk) 17:52, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
Donald Platt (poet)
editPlease move the article back to Donald Platt (poet). If you examine incoming links to Donald Platt, you will see there are two people by this name on Wikipedia. --Una Smith (talk) 20:44, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
Hugs
editHi there! Regarding your edits on Lyndriette I just wanted to stop by and offer hugs. You are not a failure, you are simply misunderstood :( Besides, an equals sign is better anyway because it's two dashes on top of each other, so obviously it must be twice as good. Anyway, happy editing! --Mpdelbuono (talk) 02:26, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
AWB creating articles
editHello Albert. May I ask, do you enter the title names manually (in the edit box) or is there some trick to it? I also use AWB for taxon pages and I wonder if there is an easier way. Cheers, ZooFari 02:37, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
- That makes sense, but I still don't know how you enter the title (or topic...) in the first sentence. ZooFari 02:54, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
- Ah, what a soothing technique :-) ZooFari 03:15, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
More expanded articles
editRemember I did that series on Slovenian cities with landmarks. Maribor Synagogue etc! Rule of thumb: "If you build it they will come". OK Franciscan Church, Maribor and a few others are still stubs but they will ge there! Dr. Blofeld White cat 10:27, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
Did you finish those Greek cats afterwards? Dr. Blofeld White cat 10:44, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
OK I think you'll find it in your archives what needed doing. I believe you filled a few just to stop the categories getting deleted. That will be one task off my mind then. Dr. Blofeld White cat 14:17, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
Hokey dokey, I'll fill out a few articles today then, I can't believe how stubby some of the main towns in Russia are on here. Even many of the ones that appear on a basic atlas. Dr. Blofeld White cat 16:00, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
Exactly, feels good doesn't it to know that you've planted the seeds to make us grow. Maybe I'll start some of the films he was in later... As for article count, I think it should be a feature in our preferences where it says edit count I think it should state how many articles we've created. Perhaps I'll address it to the tech people? Dr. Blofeld White cat 16:07, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
Couldn't give a monkeys about edit count, I do care about article count though! Dr. Blofeld White cat 16:10, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
Really bad state, 200,000 people and look. Dr. Blofeld White cat 19:41, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
My head is literally going to explode with possibilities at the moment! I'm going to keep on creating stubs, just saw Der Müller und sein Kind and a few others i started so if people are expanding my stubs from Austrian silent films to Japanese dams to Chinese universities I'm gonna stick with doing what I do. Dr. Blofeld White cat 15:33, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
I lost two messages I tried to send to you becuase of computer trouble. Grr. if you can AWB them very efficiently then please do help. This is the best I can come up with and given that tgis huge list is just one of thens of hundreds of list banks to be transferred we need to be able to plough through them somehow. I don't really care if people complain about me, the content is directly linked for anybody to add full content if they want to. Dr. Blofeld White cat 19:08, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
Well I can start 8 a minute so that 480 per hour. Don't worry about Czech villages for now as I have to prepare more templates. Dr. Blofeld White cat 21:07, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
OK I did prepare four districts for you to do the other day but you didn't have time for them! so I did them, if you are sure you feel like doing them I'll prepare a load of templates tomorrow ready. Dr. Blofeld White cat 21:11, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
Wow I seem to have maxed out at 8 a minute. For standard that is pretty fast. As nobody is bothering to create a bot to start missing articles betwene wikis then this is the nearest thing I'm afraid. P.S I was working through the Czech villages anyway so it was easier to get them started at the time! Dr. Blofeld White cat 21:33, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
Would you like me to Ævil? Better watch out the next elevator you go into LOL. Just kididng. If you could help get shot of some of the (Politiker) ones, maybe start them and then sort out the correct German links, this would be a great help. Dr. Blofeld White cat 21:54, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
This morning I created over 500 articles on legumes. Good thing is to browse the categories and the content missing is always in the family articles. BTW check out the new article Chiaravalle Abbey? Pretty awesome isn't it! Dr. Blofeld White cat 11:58, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
OK thanks. BTW, you know that you don't have to worry about default sorting as I asked somebody to clean them up afterwards. It should be clear for you to start them at maximum pace using AWB whatever that is. Can't it create at least 10 articles a minute? Dr. Blofeld White cat 18:18, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
Maybe. I'm also working on preparing the next list at List of Social Democratic Party of Germany politicians. Ther eis also another 3,000 er list for the other main German party. If we can hit the main parties even just a few it will go a long way. I'll try to mix the bag up a little and create a variety of lists like Dutch artists and things like that so it doesn't get too monotonous. Seriously they need to consider a transwiki bot on here as to ignore content on other wikis and do absolutely nothing about transferring vital info is really not good enough given the scale of this project. Dr. Blofeld White cat 14:09, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
LOL have I scared you with that huge new list? Dr. Blofeld White cat 14:32, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
If you could do that, that would be awesome. I'm also thinking of contacting bugboy and seeing if you can use his ability of creating 20 articles a minute to work with me in blue linking articles. Now that socialist list needs wikifying, I'll make a start shortly. Dr. Blofeld White cat 18:26, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
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Danielle Deleasa
editYou may notice your revert to the above redirect is gone from the history. I just thought I'd drop by to explain in case you wondered what happened. The edit's you reverted contained personal contact details, so I removed them from the page's history. Since your revert would no longer make sense with the edits you reverted expunged, I took that out as well. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 03:11, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
Complete sentences
editHi Albert, when you create your stubs, would you please use at least one complete sentence? Instead of
- "Diedrich Schröder, German politician, representative of the German Christian Democratic Union."
Say
- "Diedrich Schröder is a German politician, representative of the German Christian Democratic Union.
It would take you no longer to do the copy & paste, but would save much needed copyediting later over many stubs. Thanks, LadyofShalott 02:01, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
- OK, I've commented on Blofeld's talkpage. Basically, I think if making a complete sentence means you have to go a little slower, than that's what you should do. LadyofShalott 02:13, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks. :) Oh, and lest I seem too critical of the form, and not appreciative of the substance of the work - I do appreciate that you are creating all those stubs. The kind of stuff folks such as yourself and Blofeld mean WP has at least a little coverage of many, many more subjects than we would have without that work! LadyofShalott 02:20, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
- May no doom befall you as you weave your contributions to the tapestry of the encyclopedia! LadyofShalott 02:24, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
- And of course the idea is not that they remain as stubs but for whoever comes across them to help expand them and trasnfer the information form German wikipedia. Potentially from all the articles we create we are doing major work towards improving our coverage in the long term. Dr. Blofeld White cat 11:24, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
- It might also help if you added, either now or immediately, that he represtened X constituency in the ____ , I went back to deWP & added one when I saw the article at Prod, but it's not obvious.It's great to have these all in , of course. DGG (talk) 02:46, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
- right. Just as I hoped, you would be doing a second round to get them all completed--that's why I didn't continue after the first of them. Glad I guessed right, but I know to trust you. I'll stay alert for any further attempts to delete, but I'm about to stop for the night. Just remove any prods, and if there are speedies I'll restore them for you tomorrow. DGG (talk) 02:54, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
- I'll also be glad to help restore any that get speedily deleted (which should not happen, but if it does...) - just drop me a note listing them on my talk page. (That applies to you as well, Dr. Blofeld). LadyofShalott 15:51, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
- right. Just as I hoped, you would be doing a second round to get them all completed--that's why I didn't continue after the first of them. Glad I guessed right, but I know to trust you. I'll stay alert for any further attempts to delete, but I'm about to stop for the night. Just remove any prods, and if there are speedies I'll restore them for you tomorrow. DGG (talk) 02:54, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
- It might also help if you added, either now or immediately, that he represtened X constituency in the ____ , I went back to deWP & added one when I saw the article at Prod, but it's not obvious.It's great to have these all in , of course. DGG (talk) 02:46, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
Given that most editors know what we do on here and the fact that articles we start are auto patrolled I seriously doubt any will be deleted. We may get an occasional editors on new page patrol who decides to be awkward but nothing will be deleted, most editors can see the decent content needing translation from the tags. Hey ALbie can I leave you to finish the CDU's? We'll have to get the Politiker ones done at a later date. Dr. Blofeld White cat 17:52, 20 July 2009 (UTC) Actually the next list highest list is a list of Nazi Party politicians, that should be an interesting and quit eimportant to fill in the missing biographies and german history. The next highest then are in the 700-1000 article range. So we're basically doing the bulk first. A lot of the parties only have 50 or so articles so it will be considerably easier after we've done the first biggest lists. See here I'll make a series of lists linked in a template. Don't have to be done all one after the other but something to work towards anyway. I think I'll do the same with some other European countries. Dr. Blofeld White cat 18:45, 20 July 2009 (UTC) Good progress. I've hopefully managed to organise KotBot to do the czech municipalities will info. Also I've created the rather sinister looking Template:Lists of German politicians by party and created text dumps from the categories for the main parties. All that needs to be done now is a big wikifying task to link and order them all and then they can all be started. Nice? Dr. Blofeld White cat 20:54, 20 July 2009 (UTC) That's great but they needed to be stub tagged with Template:Germany-SPD-politician-stub otherwise the main stub cat will be flooded LOL! Also I don't know about the use of aving the under construction template as it is always removed by a bot within a week anyway... Rjwilmsi hopefully will be able to make those adjustments and default sorting them later but you've made a great start! Now I have a lot of wikifying to do today! Dr. Blofeld White cat 09:31, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
Probably the best thing is to add some every other day and mix them with your other editing, I always find it easier to do a bunch and then do a different topic and then return and do more etc, I find it less boring that way and easier to work. Hey you managed to create 15 articles a minute at one point which is exactly how fast it should be done! I seem to average 6 or 7 a minute only. Yeah definately!, if you can prolong periods of generating them and maximise the rate of creation who could create 150 articles every ten minutes. I think it is much better to use AWB to its full potential. Take a break from it today if you are too busy, if you want to break it up a little from starting politicians who can always help me with my flowering plant stubs and italian films. I'll be generating lists of films by year and have found a way to generate the film articles at pace, they'll just need developing later. Dr. Blofeld White cat 13:51, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
Cool, actually we didn't have the stub tag last night but before starting on a list we do need to consider stub categories. Hopefully Rj can fix the ones you;ve started. Probably best to start them without the construction tag as the bot will remove them within a week anyway. I'll probably add a few more shortly, I've wiki linked a good number too. Dr. Blofeld White cat 14:00, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
If you think it will yield a smoother run then by all means do whatever you are happy with, the bot will remove the tags within a week anyway. I just had soembody sniffing at Marius van Amelsvoort so I decided to edit it a bit just to prove a point that what I am doing is worthwhile and can be expanded by anywbody.
We also have a huge project taggin backlog to do too!!
{{WikiProject Germany|class=stub}} {{bio|politician-work-group=yes|class=stub}}
I worked it out based on April 30th reading and counting backwards on the article count list in the tools at this moment in time I've created 5.8204 articles. Nearly 6 articles! Wow! Dr. Blofeld White cat 16:44, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
Righteo, I'm taking a minbreak from wiki now, see ya tomorrow. Dr. Blofeld White cat 18:54, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
If you need to, you can create any new stub templates, I'd imagine the socialists 'ill keep you busy for a while. Its been raining all day here but has brightened up now so I'll get some fresh air me thinks and go for a long stroll down the beach. The last two weeks have been very poor weather here, no sun!! Saludos! Dr. Blofeld White cat 18:58, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
What is it is some people actually do on here? I'm shocked by how lousy some of the articles even on major cities like Carson City, Nevada are on here. Barely 10 references mostly containing lists of schools are that. The history section is good but below that very poor. I keep saying there is a huge bias towards the US but on towns and forest parks and rivers etc a LOT of articles are nowhere near the quality they should be. Perhaps too many Americans on here concentrate on sports and writing about people than geography. We do have some very good articles but a lot of cities you'd expect to be up to scratch are really lacking, especially when you think how many Americans use wiki!
New York, San Francisco and maybe Chicago seem to have the better quality articles on here. Most of the Los Angeles articles on roads and that are pretty poor too! Some of the state highway articles seem to be good though, it does seem though that less seem interested in American and Canadian geography. You'd take for granted thse articles would have been polished but it isn't the case! You'd think even Las Vegas articles would be of a good standard but most are poorly referenced too! Dr. Blofeld White cat 10:36, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
Agreed, emailed. Dr. Blofeld White cat 16:46, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
German "politician" stubs
editHallo, your stubs on alleged German politicians make no sense. I have only looked at Detlev Claussen and Volkmar Weiss so far, but I guess you are following a system and might have produced more articles of this kind. Claussen may be a member of SPD, but he is no acitve politicians but a renowned sociologist. Weiss may have been member of CDU once, but meanwhile he is on the far-right and has joined the DVU. He is foremost notorious for his racist publications. So please stop adding these misleading stubs to Wikipedia please, Greeting --Schwalker (talk) 09:45, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
This is exactly why editors like you Schwalker are needed who have the knowledge to expand these stubs. The point is that Claussen is a member of the SPD and most of the time implies that they are a politician. Most of the articles started are politicians but we cna't be held accountable for the several who may not be and are just party members. Dr. Blofeld White cat 10:17, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
- your stub, for Ernst Hegewisch is also wrong hegewisch was a member not a politican of the spd, and he was only member due world war one, than he worked for the rest of his life as a activist for the communist party, and a lawyer for the rote hilfe deutschland, if you tag him as an spd-member it s like a diffamation for him :-) Bunnyfrosch (talk) 14:26, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
- my english is to bad, for editing articles. maybe, i found the time, for trying, i will conclude some facts Bunnyfrosch (talk) 15:18, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
Actually I did take a quick scan through the communist party members and I found that a high number were writers. So for communist party I avoided implying they were "politician" as such. However for the parties that ALbert is currently working on the majority seem to be politicians so I think he should continue as before. Communist seems to have more of a following than actual political function I believe which accounts for the high proportion of writers etc. Either way I think I blagged my way around that party. Anyway that's two more parties done. Dr. Blofeld White cat 21:24, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
Yeah the task is looking less daunting now, although when you see what I have installed for Italy and Poland... Checked out Austria and it could be done in a day. I did Netherlands yesterday although the list seemed the most important and condensed. Of course I still have those Swedes and Spaniards and those missing lists in my user space and of course the New Caledonians you wanted to start.
AWB when uses at max pace is the best way to do the larger lists anyway. I checked out the Nazis and I spotted a load of writers and all sorts in there. SO when we do the Nazi list I think we'll have to take out implying they were a politician and move the list to list of Nazi Party members, luckily the category is Nazis anyway so that also avoids the politician tagging. The one you are currently on looks OK though, you will throw a few writers and that in with the bunch but most do seem politicians so should be OK. They are all definately members of the party so at least that is fully correct. Dr. Blofeld White cat 21:51, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
That would be perfect. I'm off now, happy editing! Dr. Blofeld White cat 22:00, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
All of these stubs technically violate WP:BLP in that they have no sourcing. If you want to continue with these edits, please add the BLPsources tag to each. Who then was a gentleman? (talk) 02:08, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
- OK, so long as they get sourced, or tagged. :) Who then was a gentleman? (talk) 02:13, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
The problem is a lot of them are not living so the BLP tags look redundant. Dr. Blofeld White cat 10:28, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
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Albert Herring, can you read German? I wonder how you got the idea that Christian v. Ditfurth might be a german politician. He never was. --Textkorrektur (talk) 09:33, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
Um maybe because his article says Von 1973 bis 1983 war er Mitglied der DKP For a whole ten years of his life he was a member of the Communist Party. Hardly no worthy of mentioning.... Dr. Blofeld White cat 09:53, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
- As I said before it is nonsense starting articles about a historian, journalist and author by a membership in a party more than twenty years ago. No I get an idea why enWP is not regarded reliably in deWP. --Textkorrektur (talk) 09:59, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
Or maybe it is because of the well known arrogance of the Germans that you and German wikipedia think they are better than everybody else? Read the article now. Not incorrect and true. Dr. Blofeld White cat 10:28, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
- Thank you that's it. By the way: Hoimar von Ditfurth is imho much more important than son and daughter but my point of view is probably a matter of age. ;-) --Textkorrektur (talk) 11:16, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
Well there are still a fair number of parties to go through for Germany yet, the Nazi Party for one and then the others. Austria may be next and should take a day or so. If you start on any new German lists be sure to create the realtive new stub tag first. You can view the missing Swedes and Spaniards at User:Dr. Blofeld/Missing politicians. Note though for Sweden I had complaints by one user because he believed the Swedish wikipedia articles were poor. Argentina is definately another I have in mind well you can see the lists I've started. Dr. Blofeld White cat 18:46, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, I'll have a look at Czech and Poland too. If so I'll draw up a similar list series like Germany. Right now though I think we should concnetrate on getting Germany done, of course we still need to sort out those Politker missing ones. The ones missing from Algeria and Senegal are from French wikipedia I believe. Dr. Blofeld White cat 18:54, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
Poland will be the next to draw lists for anyway, followed by Czech. Italy is huge like Germany so should keep us busy! Dr. Blofeld White cat 19:16, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
The missing German lists are as follows, surely it will take a few more days to get them started? Dr. Blofeld White cat 19:39, 23 July 2009 (UTC) · Bavarian Christian Social Union · Centre Party · German Democratic Party · Free Democratic Party · German Green Party · German National People's Party · Independent Social Democratic Party · Left Party · Liberal Democratic Party · National Democratic Party · Nazi Party
I will create stub templates for the others tonight anyway just in case you are feeling energetic! Note for German Democratic Party and German Centre Party politicians you can say "was" as the party is now defunct. now I would be frickin astounded for sure if you polished them off tonight. 3 million articles though has been a long time coming.... Dr. Blofeld White cat 19:39, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
Well we've speeded up very much the last week or two, since 2,930,000. Now we suddenly have 2,970,000! That would be quite some target by the end of the month though (not if more people created articles it wouldn't) I predicted it would be July 4th but the very slow rate of article growth this year almost put it back to September or October. Luckily we are on board! Dr. Blofeld White cat 19:49, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
Regarding mass-creation of unreferenced BLPs
editIt is being discussed here. It would be best if you can run back over your lists and reference these articles. Lara 20:13, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
Lists
editRight you'll have to check my contributions history to find the correct party templates I've just created. A number of parties are defunct so for those add "was a politician or member" with Nazi probably best to say was a member.
The missing German lists are as follows, surely it will take a few more days to get them started?
- Defunct parties
· Centre Party · German Democratic Party · German National People's Party · Independent Social Democratic Party · Nazi Party · Liberal Democratic Party
- Current
· Bavarian Christian Social Union · Free Democratic Party · German Green Party · Left Party · National Democratic Party
I hope this helps? Dr. Blofeld White cat 20:15, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
Groan groan....
Mmm nice timing. Dr. Blofeld White cat 20:59, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
Emailed.
Interwiki ref
editCan you use {{iw-ref}} instead of {{Translation/ref}} (the latter calls the former, might as well just use iw-ref). Thanks! –xenotalk 20:26, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
- Replied @ my talk. –xenotalk 20:30, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
Proposed deletion of Gustav Kluwe
editThe article Gustav Kluwe has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
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will stop the Proposed Deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. The Speedy Deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and Articles for Deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Pointillist (talk) 00:28, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
Articles for deletion nomination of Claus Peter Poppe
editI have nominated Claus Peter Poppe, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Claus Peter Poppe. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.
Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. Lara 06:45, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
This nomination also includes the other 2797 articles. Lara 06:53, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
- FYI, I have proposed that you be blocked at WP:ANI. --Gavin Collins (talk|contribs) 15:20, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
This decision has been a while in coming. --User:AlbertHerring Io son l'orecchio e tu la bocca: parla! 15:34, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
Semi-retirement
editI'm really sorry to see this, and sorry that I contributed to such a decision. I want to again state that I believe you had the very best intentions with your article creations, and I think you've done very well to handle yourself in the AN/I drama. As far as the call for your block, that happens in any substantial drama thread on AN/I. There is no way you would ever get blocked for this. That's just silly... absurd, actually. But anyway, I hope to see you around soon. The project needs good faith editors with some clue, and you're clearly one of them. Just keep in mind that we all make mistakes! Like, about a month ago, I accidentally deleted something like 700 categories that weren't supposed to be deleted. :| I immediately realized my mistake and went to fixing it, but people still yelled at me, called for my admin bit... I don't think anyone threatened to block me, but who knows? Haha. And like a year ago, I allegedly >_> inadvertently deleted all watchlists in all languages. Don't ask. Point is, even if you nearly destroy all the wikis, people get over it once the problem is fixed, and this one is shaping up to be fixed fairly easily to make way for the articles to be imported one at a time.
A lesson learned and attention brought to a proposal Blofeld hasn't been able to get people to listen to. There are always positives in negative situations. It's important to find those and appreciate them. :) Lara 15:52, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
Oh dear
edit- I know that you started the articles in good faith. I don't want you to go because of it.
- This has sparked an useful discussion about about how to get well written articles moved to Wikipedia-en from other language Wikipedia. Getting more of the high quality articles to replace our poorly written ones on the same topic would be goodness. You had the right idea but it needs to be tweaked and done on a smaller scale. FloNight♥♥♥ 15:54, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
The Resilient Barnstar | ||
The Resilient Barnstar may be given to any editor who learns and improves from criticisms, never lets mistakes or blunders impede their growth as Wikipedians, or has the ability to recover/finish with a smile. This one is waiting for your return. Pointillist (talk) 16:04, 24 July 2009 (UTC) |
- I only hope that the next time I make a good-faith mistake (which I'm expecting in, probably, the next 10 minutes or so), I handle it with the grace and dignity you showed; I'll aspire to the maturity you showed. If I wasn't worried about barnstar inflation, I'd give you one pretty much exactly like Pointillist's. Well handled. --Floquenbeam (talk) 16:16, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
- I also want to echo what others have said. Both you and Dr. Blofeld handled this very well. There's absolutely no doubt in my mind that both of you acted in good faith, with the project's best interests at heart. I hope to see you return to active editing, but if not, the best of luck for the future. --MZMcBride (talk) 16:27, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
- As an Outsider, Id hate to see you leave wiki. Please reconsider. As Floquenbeam expresses Id drop you a barnstar as well for your resilience. Ottawa4ever (talk) 16:31, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
- Don't get discouraged, Albert. Wikipedia needs talented AWB operators. Just because this particular task wasn't well-received doesn't mean there's not loads of other stuff that requires your attention. –xenotalk 20:21, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
Those of you who drove away AlbertHerring and destroyed his work should all be ashamed of yourselves. --Apoc2400 (talk) 11:41, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
Yeah take a few days away and then return when you are ready. More people are aware of the good work you do even if the ones who always assume bad faith don't. Come back and make Delta happy!!! Dr. Blofeld White cat 17:15, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
- agreed! I regret that the discussion moved too quickly for me to even see it and support you. It was a travesty, since the articles were sourceable. I see that those who started it have expressed their regrets that it led to this result. DGG (talk) 17:38, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
- Albert, we all know that you acted in good faith. Take a few days off and come back and continue your good work. Salih (talk) 18:31, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
- Add me to the list of people who would hate to see you go. Please come back and continue to contribute to the encyclopedia. Don't be discouraged - keep going! LadyofShalott 18:33, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
I'm sorry you've had such a bad couple days. I always feel silly begging people to come back, because really if you're happier away, you shouldn't put Wikipedia's happiness above your own! Hopefully you can at least continue contributing intermittently in ways that avoid drama - maybe uploading more photos? If you're really leaving, you'll be sincerely missed. Calliopejen1 (talk) 02:29, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
- If it is honestly thought that your articles were to disruptively illustrate a point, or were created in "bad faith" (however that could possibly work) then these people are clueless. It can be hard to work with some of the wonderful people here but I always think I am here to create the sum of knowledge, and that has kept me from quitting. I hope you decide to edit regularly once again. good luck, Pzrmd (talk) 06:20, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
- Albert, I'm one more voice saying I agree that the drama can get thick at times, but I hope to see you back in a bit as your contributions add value to this encyclopedia. --Rosiestep (talk) 01:33, 26 July 2009 (UTC)