Septimusearle

Septimus Burt

Thanks for your recent additions to the Septimus Burt article. Some of the additional material is not mentioned at all in the existing references. Could you please add appropriate citations for the new material. Mitch Ames (talk) 11:42, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

Citations: Mitch Ames- thank you for your comment.. I cant seem to edit the page to reflect the references appropriately.. The Changes under 'Septimus Burt'- first paragraph are from: 11 'May it Please Your Honour" a History of the Supreme Court of Western Australia 1861-2005, G Bolton and G Byrne 2005.

Under the paragraph: "Political Career" are from

12 'Burt- Forrest Correspondence' - Battye Library, Perth. 13 Burt Family Papers and Personal Notebook - Battye Library perth

WP:REF and WP:Template messages#Sources.C2.A0.2F_citations.C2.A0.2F_references have lots of info on how to do references - probably too much, if you're new here. But this paragraph illustrates how to insert your references You can use named references more than once. And here are the other two refs These simpler refs are also named so can be used more than once.

Edit this page to see the mark-up text. Copy either <ref name=...> ... </ref> or <ref name=.../> into the article text at the appropriate locations (per WP:ILC). The first reference uses {{cite book}} because I know it is a book. The other two refs use a much simpler format - without a copy of the actual papers, I can't be sure exactly what if any {{cite}} template to use, so just keep it simple. If you get really stuck, just insert plain text like (ref name=MayItPleaseYourHonour) in the appropriate locations in the text, and I'll fix it up within a day or two (or someone else may do it quicker). Mitch Ames (talk) 13:10, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

References fixed. Mitch Ames (talk) 12:29, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

Also, could you check whether your sources say Yinnetharra or Yinniethana. (Post any response on the article talk page.) Thanks, Mitch Ames (talk) 13:16, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

Mitch - All references to Yinnetharra Station on the internet are spelt this way. I spoke to an Audrey Horley, daughter of George Burt who was the son of Septimus Burt who confirms this spelling also. It is quite common knowledge in the north west; knowledge of this station that is. Now i am going to give this reference thing a go.. I will not touch other articles until i have format correctly. It just seems to be so much information missing about distinguished individuals. Thank you for your help in this.

http://oa.anu.edu.au/obituary/burt-septimus-179

Mitch - see attached address above.. it contains an image of Mr Septimus Burt.. again a little stumped placing this image on the Wikipedia page for him.. are you albe to do it ??

SE

We're not allowed to copy the image into Wikipedia, because that would violate copyright. It might be allowed as a "historical image" per item 10 of WP:NFC#UUI, but I am not a wiki-lawyer (or a real world lawyer) and I don't have the time or inclination to follow it up. If you're interested, you could probably ask about it at WP:NFCR. Mitch Ames (talk) 12:40, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

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As you practice with the Burt article - lets hope you try other things as well SatuSuro 06:04, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

Please learn to sign your talk messages: Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. Thanks SatuSuro 13:28, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

Please try

It is very hard to understand you when you (a) do not place talk items and sequence them downwards, and (b) do not sign - please at least try - Mitch Ames might not be the only one wondering what is going on SatuSuro 09:36, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

History is your friend. But yes, following the guidelines would make it easier. Mitch Ames (talk) 12:18, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

I'm surprised SineBot doesn't do it automatically. Mitch Ames (talk) 12:25, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

Reference formatting

While we appreciate the new material on the Septimus Burt article - and especially the references - it would help a lot if you could at least wrap each reference in separate ref tags. Eg this is very difficult to parse:

Burts great, great, great uncle; William Mathew Burt, was Governor-General of the Leeward Islands (1776-1781) during the American War of Independence. 'Burt Family Papers JS Battye Library, Perth., "World Statesman.org" , "Carribeana" Colonel H W Pook. 'The House of Commons: 1660 - 1690 ; 3, Members M - Y By Stanley T. Bindoff, John S. Roskell, Lewis Namier, Romney Sedgwick, David Hayton, Eveline Cruickshanks, R. G. Thorne, P. W. Hasler'

Wrapping each individual reference in tags like this (looking at how the text displays here, not the raw markup!):

Burts great, great, great uncle; William Mathew Burt, was Governor-General of the Leeward Islands (1776-1781) during the American War of Independence.<ref>Burt Family Papers, JS Battye Library, Perth</ref><ref>"World Statesman.org"</ref><ref>"Carribeana" Colonel H W Pook.</ref><ref>The House of Commons: 1660 - 1690 ; 3, Members M - Y By Stanley T. Bindoff, John S. Roskell, Lewis Namier, Romney Sedgwick, David Hayton, Eveline Cruickshanks, R. G. Thorne, P. W. Hasler</ref>

Produces this:

Burts great, great, great uncle; William Mathew Burt, was Governor-General of the Leeward Islands (1776-1781) during the American War of Independence.

which is much clearer. Thanks, Mitch Ames (talk) 13:42, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

Septimus Burt's wife's genealogy

Your input at Talk:Septimus Burt#Louisa Fanny Hare's family and Talk:Septimus Burt#Hare-Naylor reference would be appreciated. Mitch Ames (talk) 11:58, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

YINNETHARRA STATION

Mitch- Yinniethana is spelt Yinnetharra. Please do your own internet rersearch on the North Western Australian cattle pastoral station. I dont think a reference should be placed for every spelling clarification. Yinnetharra Station was given to George Henry Burt JP- youngest son of Septimus Burt and husband to Margaret Forrest and father to George Henry Burt jnr (died in infancy) Mary, Francis Sinclair and Audrey. If you like, further clarification can be found in the book "Crossroads, a Journey through the Upper Gascyone" by Bonnie Milne 2009 or just simply type in Yinnetharra Station..It is currently owned by Dave Robinson and his family, who also own; Dorrwarrah , anothern former Burt property.Septimusearle (talk) 05:53, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

My reply is at Talk:Septimus_Burt#Yinnetharra_or_Yinniethana. Please continue the discussion there. Mitch Ames (talk) 13:22, 1 November 2011 (UTC)