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That's not the way the law works. Under actual Canadian election law, every member of the legislature actually ceases to be an "incumbent" member of the legislature as of the writ drop, every seat is technically vacant during the election campaign, and then every MPP who wins on election day is a new MPP — even if they were already an MPP before, they're technically still a new MPP again because nobody legally held the seat while the legislature was dissolved for the election campaign. If an MPP does get reelected, then sure, there's no benefit to us in starting a new infobox term for each subsequent reelection so long as their riding hasn't been redistributed to a new name and boundaries (in which case we do start a new infobox term), but if one gets defeated or retires we have to use the official end date, which is the writ drop. Bearcat (talk) 18:08, 8 June 2018 (UTC)
- So everything you say is original research unless and until you can convince the Ontario Legislative Assembly website and staff that they are wrong. Senexcalibur (talk) 18:15, 8 June 2018 (UTC)
- No, nothing I say is "original research". And incidentally, I have personally caught errors on the legislature website, including one case where the same MPP had two different profiles just because he served non-consecutive terms in different ridings and one case where an MPP somehow continued to hold his riding for a full year after he died. So their website is not infallible — and accordingly, we're not bound by what their website says, we're bound by the way the law works. And incidentally, I'm an administrator who's been around here for fifteen years — so while you're absolutely welcome to contribute, as a new contributor who's been around here for two days you don't get to claim that you know the rules of the place better than I do. Bearcat (talk) 18:18, 8 June 2018 (UTC)
- I've caught errors in the Parliament of Canada website, written to the site, and had them corrected. Yes, we are bound by the way the law works but we cannot interpret the law so I would suggest that you write the Legislature of Ontario website, inform them of their error, and when and if they correct it we can abide by it but for the time being the Legislature of Ontario website is our only source for the terms of MPPs, anything else, including your interpretation, correct or not, is original research regardless of how many years you've been here. Senexcalibur (talk) 16:02, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
- No, nothing I say is "original research". And incidentally, I have personally caught errors on the legislature website, including one case where the same MPP had two different profiles just because he served non-consecutive terms in different ridings and one case where an MPP somehow continued to hold his riding for a full year after he died. So their website is not infallible — and accordingly, we're not bound by what their website says, we're bound by the way the law works. And incidentally, I'm an administrator who's been around here for fifteen years — so while you're absolutely welcome to contribute, as a new contributor who's been around here for two days you don't get to claim that you know the rules of the place better than I do. Bearcat (talk) 18:18, 8 June 2018 (UTC)
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Thank you so much for finding the vandalism in the article. I've been so focused on adding candidate names, that I hadn't stopped to read the prose recently. I've blocked the IP that added that horrible nonsense for three months. -- Zanimum (talk) 18:31, 16 July 2018 (UTC)