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If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me on my talk page. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 20:45, 28 November 2018 (UTC)Reply


Non-free content use edit

  Thank you for contributing to Wikipedia. We always appreciate when users upload files. However, it appears that one or more of the files you have uploaded or added to a page, specifically User:Sehar.h/sandbox, may fail our non-free policy. Most often, this involves editors uploading or using a copyrighted file of a living person. For other possible reasons, please read up on our Non-free criteria. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. -- Marchjuly (talk) 21:30, 28 November 2018 (UTC)Reply

Hi Sehar.h. Non-free files like File:Fair & Lovely (cosmetics).png can only be used in articles per Wikipedia's non-free content use criterion #9; so, please don't re-add that file to your sandbox again. If you've got any questions about this feel free to ask them below or at Wikipedia:Media copyright questions. -- Marchjuly (talk) 21:32, 28 November 2018 (UTC)Reply
  • Hi! I received a notification about this. Marchjuly is correct in that this image can only be used in live articles and even then, it can only be used in very specific ways. The reason for this is that this is something that was created by a brand to promote their product, so it's held under a restrictive copyright that would only allow its use under fair use for very specific reasons. For example, the image you used can only be used on the article Fair & Lovely (cosmetics), as the fair use guidelines can only justify using it there - we can't use it in any other way. My recommendation would be to look through Wikimedia Commons or use the CC search for images that could be used instead. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 21:56, 28 November 2018 (UTC)Reply

Notes edit

Hi - I have some notes:

  • I'm not sure if this is meant to accompany or replace the current section on human beauty in the main article on beauty. I would argue against this replacing it since the current section has a lot of content that approaches it from a very general standpoint as opposed to approaching the topic as it applies to the prevalence of European beauty standards on a global scale. This leads to a secondary point:
  • The draft takes a somewhat definitive stance on whether or not European beauty standards are the norm. This should be avoided as this is something that is commonly argued and debated, so make sure that you don't make any absolutes here. (IE, use "argued that the predominance of white women featured in movies and advertising leads to a Eurocentric concept of beauty" as opposed to "Eurocentric concepts of beauty are predominant in the global society".) It's just sort of a delicate tap dance of phrasing, to be honest.
  • It may be a good idea if you also renamed the subsection "Culturally rooted beauty issues" to something like "Eurocentrism and beauty". The reason for this is that ultimately the section is about the impact of Eurocentrism on beauty standards and culture, whereas this section gives off the impression that it would be about more than just Eurocentrism. In other words, the section comes across like it would address issues such as major body modification and female circumcision, which also fall under the banner of beauty. (IE, some cultures only or are more likely to see female members of their society beautiful if they've been circumcised or do something like elongate their neck using neck rings.) At present the only part that doesn't really discuss Eurocentric beauty standards is the part about East Asian cultures.
  • The Stephanie Wong source is a study, so it's seen as a primary source for any of the research and data collected. Also, keep in mind that she specifically surveyed Asian American women, so the findings are really only accurate for that specific group of Asian American women, so you need a secondary, independent source like a literature review to help put the findings into larger context and verify the findings via commentary, which isn't provided by the outlet that published the study as they're only looking to ensure that the study doesn't have anything that would immediately invalidate it. While this isn't necessarily a health and medicine topic per se (although it does brush against it via the beauty standards causing eating disorders and such), this training module gives a good overview of why secondary sources are needed for studies. The overview at WP:MEDRS also covers this as well. Even if the topic is more cultural than medical, the issues surrounding studies are seen as fairly universal on Wikipedia since they're primary sources.

I hope this helps - I think that overall you have a very strong start here - it just needs to be edited a little more to fit the style guidelines on Wikipedia. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 18:56, 30 November 2018 (UTC)Reply

  • Also, you absolutely cannot use the Fair & Lovely image in your sandbox. I'm also really not sure that it could be used on the beauty article either, since fair use would only cover its use in the main article for the company, to serve as a mode of identification for the company and their product. Using it in the beauty article would pose an issue since it would be using it in a way that fair use wouldn't cover in this situation. Basically, using an image in one article as fair use doesn't mean that it can be used everywhere. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 21:51, 30 November 2018 (UTC)Reply