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Latest comment: 3 years ago by Seany91 in topic List of current National Women's Soccer League broadcasters isn't "listcruft"
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Sorry about that deletion. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 20:47, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
List of current National Women's Soccer League broadcasters isn't "listcruft"
All of the information from that list has been taken from the all of the individual teams, which have reliable third party sources to back them up. Plus, the NWSL is the women's equivalent to Major League Soccer (i.e. the top-tier professional soccer organization in the United States), which has its own "current broadcasters" list. Plus, that and the information regarding the list of NWSL Championship game broadcasters is backed up/supplemented in the article about the NWSL's television coverage. BornonJune8 (talk) 9:13, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
- There are about 66 different sources referenced in the article regarding the NWSL's local coverage. Again how exactly is it "listcruft" to centralize the information regarding the broadcasters of the biggest professional women's soccer league in America? BornonJune8 (talk) 9:21, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
- As you already know, WP:OSE is not a valid argument. Besides WP:GNG, one of the criteria for WP:LC is about whether a list is appropriate at all. Your lists essentially duplicate existing information on the main page (in this case, NWSL#Broadcasting and individual teams' pages). Seany91 (talk) 09:23, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
- @Seany91: And not everybody is automatically going to find the broadcast information on the individual teams' pages without culling through all of the other stuff pertaining to their lengthy history. We can't be that presumptuous that a list devoted to broadcasters isn't necessary since its already there in the main articles for the respective teams. And NWSL#Broadcasting pretty much offers a basic overview and nothing truly in-depth or specific like a separate broadcasting list. BornonJune8 (talk) 9:29, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
- What about National Women's Soccer League on television? Your affinity for lists when it doesn't have to be a list is also a criterion for WP:LC. Anyway, my personal talk page is not the appropriate place for this discussion. Seany91 (talk) 09:33, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
- @Seany91: You're beginning to make a serious slippery slope argument. That would be like saying that the individual list of Super Bowl broadcasters isn't necessary since you can put all of that information in the "National Football League on television" article. BornonJune8 (talk) 9:46, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
- @Seany91: Why isn't your personal talk page an appropriate place for this discussion!? I mean, you sent two messages to my own personal talk page. It should be my right to ask why you have such a problem or issue personally with the list that I created in the first place! I'm not exactly going to get a proper answer if I don't ask the person who forward me the information about their desire to have said articles deleted in the very first place. BornonJune8 (talk) 9:57, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
- Again, WP:OSE. Again, an actual article over a list whenever possible (see WP:LC). Again, my personal talk page is not the appropriate place for this discussion. Seany91 (talk) 09:59, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
- The appropriate place for this discussion is at the relevant article talk page. The messages are automatically generated by the PROD process to the article originator and explicitly ask you to discuss at the article's talk page. Please, WP:AVOIDYOU. Seany91 (talk) 10:03, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
- @Seany91: Why isn't your personal talk page an appropriate place for this discussion!? I mean, you sent two messages to my own personal talk page. It should be my right to ask why you have such a problem or issue personally with the list that I created in the first place! I'm not exactly going to get a proper answer if I don't ask the person who forward me the information about their desire to have said articles deleted in the very first place. BornonJune8 (talk) 9:57, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
- @Seany91: You're beginning to make a serious slippery slope argument. That would be like saying that the individual list of Super Bowl broadcasters isn't necessary since you can put all of that information in the "National Football League on television" article. BornonJune8 (talk) 9:46, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
- What about National Women's Soccer League on television? Your affinity for lists when it doesn't have to be a list is also a criterion for WP:LC. Anyway, my personal talk page is not the appropriate place for this discussion. Seany91 (talk) 09:33, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
- @Seany91: And not everybody is automatically going to find the broadcast information on the individual teams' pages without culling through all of the other stuff pertaining to their lengthy history. We can't be that presumptuous that a list devoted to broadcasters isn't necessary since its already there in the main articles for the respective teams. And NWSL#Broadcasting pretty much offers a basic overview and nothing truly in-depth or specific like a separate broadcasting list. BornonJune8 (talk) 9:29, 18 June 2020 (UTC)