Seanbagleyus
"Carefree, AZ"
editThe term "town" is the one officially used for Carefree. The terms "enclave" and "upscale" are difficult to define and possibly POV. Are they supported by any sources? The Gnome (talk) 10:43, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
- I now see that you have tried repeatedly to insert those terms, and especially "upscale". E.g. [1], [2]. You claim that "Typical single family homes [in Carefree] sell for well over a million. Carefree is the 2nd most expensive zip code in Arizona". Got any sources for this claim? The Gnome (talk) 10:51, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for the response to my enquiry. In view of what you wrote, I believe that the characterisation "upscale" should be inside quotation marks and that there should be a reference to the sources you named in your message, i.e. the sources which support that characterisation. The Gnome (talk) 13:41, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
- I edited in your reference. You might be interested to check out the following tips about writing up or editing articles:
- Thanks for the response to my enquiry. In view of what you wrote, I believe that the characterisation "upscale" should be inside quotation marks and that there should be a reference to the sources you named in your message, i.e. the sources which support that characterisation. The Gnome (talk) 13:41, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
Brookfield
editHello,
I noticed that you have repeatedly attempted to remove the word "affluent" from the Brookfield, Connecticut Wikipedia page. This claim is substantiated by a reference from Moody's, which is a very reliable source for demographic data. My edit description is as follows: “The source located directly after the word "town", is a Moody's Analysis report of Brookfield. On the first page, they list one of Brookfield's strengths as having an "affluent tax base", and on the second page, they include a figure that the median income is 198% higher than the national average. Moody's is one of the world's most reliable sources for financial data, so the claim that Brookfield is an "affluent town" is substantiated. Do not remove credibly sourced material that is relevant”. I encourage you to read this Moody’s report before attempting to revert this again. Also, constantly reverting other user's edits is in violation of Wikipedia:Edit warring, and can result in being blocked from editing. Opening an edit warring inquiry is the last thing I want to do, since you seem to be a constructive editor who enjoys improving Connecticut Wikipedia pages like myself, so please do not continue to revert this edit.
On a side note, if you're interested in finding out what pages need improvement that are related to Connecticut, see Wikipedia:WikiProject Connecticut. If you ever want any help improving a page, I'd be more than happy to help you out. --AirportExpert (talk) 12:35, 29 May 2018 (UTC)AirportExpert
The use of Affluent when referring to a town/city
editUsing the term “Affluent”when describing a town leads the reader to believe that the location is that of predominantly wealthy individuals. The fact is that Brookfield is not an affluent town— it is an average, middle to upper middle class town at best. To use this term is pretentious and misleading. Greenwich, New Canaan, Wilton, Darien are affluent Fairfield County towns. Brookfield is average at best. Seanbagleyus (talk) 05:03, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
- Moody’s felt it was appropriate to use the term “affluent” to describe Brookfield, and Moody’s is a highly reputable source. They also have a section on page two of their report titled: "Economy and tax base: Wealthy residential community in Fairfield County". Several figures also support the claim that Brookfield is an affluent town, since incomes are substantially higher than State and National standards by several metrics. The towns you listed are astronomically wealthy, in fact they are some of the wealthiest towns in America. Just because they are more affluent than Brookfield, this does not make it inaccurate to describe Brookfield as an “affluent town”. That is like arguing that a BMW isn’t an expensive car, because Rolls Royces are more expensive. Your claim that “Brookfield is average at best” is simply untrue, and neglects several figures that would suggest otherwise.--AirportExpert (talk) 19:08, 3 June 2018 (UTC)AirportExpert
What is an Affluent Town
editI have a seasonal home in Scottsdale, Arizona— an undisputable “Affluent” town in every sense of the word, and their Wikipedia page does not describe it as such. That term, as you know very well, implies a predominately wealthy population, vast neighborhoods of luxury homes as well as world class shopping, restaurants & related amenities as well as a high level of sophistication. As someone who was born in Brookfield and whose family was in town since the 1930’s, the fact that anyone should consider Brookfield as an affluent town is absolutely ludicrous. It’s laughable, as a matter of fact— because my friend, still a Brookfield resident— is who brought this description to my attention in the first place and yes— we laughed out loud. It’s tantamount to a recent NY Times piece (So You’re Thinking of Living in...) which quoted the first selectman as saying something to the effect, “...as soon as the Brookfield Village area is completed, Brookfield be just just like Darien or New Canaan...”. Describing an average— perfectly nice, but terminally average— town like Brookfield as affluent is simply misleading. Because my friend, it’s not. If you truly think it is, you need to visit some communities across the USA that are absolutely affluent. Whoever at Moody’s used that word to describe Brookfield, Connecticut had ulterior motives or needs to be acquainted with what is truly affluent, as well as a dictionary. Seanbagleyus (talk) 15:41, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
- I'm sure Moody's would risk their reputation as a reputable source for financial data to falsely improve the image of Brookfield, Connecticut. Also, If Moody's has some ulterior motive to make Brookfield look better, then why did they downgrade the town's bond rating in the same document?
To quote the document:
"Economy and Tax Base: Wealthy Residential Community in Fairfield County"
"Brookfield's $3.2 billion equalized net grand list (ENGL) remains well positioned for future tax base growth given its favorable location in Fairfield County within easy access to I-84 and multi-use development opportunities created by the completion of the Route 7 bypass."
"Looking ahead, the continued development of the Four Corners mixed use area is expected to foster additional tax base growth. Additional growth is expected over the long-term from the portion of Federal Road from Route 133 north to Route 7, which currently consists of ample space well poised for development. The town reports a number of other projects in various stages of development."
"Brookfield's strong socioeconomic profile is evident in income levels that are well above average, with median family income at 141% and 198% of the state and nation, respectively. The full value per capita is a strong $190,519."
Dictionary definition of "affluent": "(especially of a group or area) having a great deal of money; wealthy."
A town with a median family income at 141% and 198% of the state and nation fits that definition.--AirportExpert (talk) 16:46, 20 June 2018 (UTC)AirportExpert
Changes
editMark— not sure why you removed my additions of notable people? Seanbagleyus (talk) 20:17, 12 January 2019 (UTC)