April 2021 edit

  Hello. I have noticed that you often edit without using an edit summary. Please do your best to always fill in the summary field. This helps your fellow editors use their time more productively, rather than spending it unnecessarily scrutinizing and verifying your work. Even a short summary is better than no summary, and summaries are particularly important for large, complex, or potentially controversial edits. Thanks! BriefEdits (talk) 19:02, 9 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

  • @Scribe252:: Can you please add an edit summary for each committed edit. It makes verification much easier for other editors. — BriefEdits (talk) 22:52, 9 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

Hello BreifEdits, Scribe252 here. Thanks for the suggestion. I will try to include summaries, but I have the habit of making a lot of small changes, which makes annotating all of them difficult. There are a lot of articles from San Francisco Chronicle, and other publications like The Atlantic, which I will be happy to cite here, but I do not seem to have the ability to add references.


Hi Scribe252, I appreciate the feedback. Regarding what is correct to write in a lead section, I used the Wikpedia manual of style regarding lead sections as a guide. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Lead_section

It says among other things:

The lead should stand on its own as a concise overview of the article's topic. It should identify the topic, establish context, explain why the topic is notable, and summarize the most important points, including any prominent controversies.

My edits in the lead section improved the article such that the reader can better understand the entire article in a nutshell just by reading the lead section alone. Thus the remark made that the lead section seems not to add much new information but instead summarizes the article, was intentional when I made the edit.

Regards, 2601:645:C001:4A40:5992:7D2B:8961:A48D (talk) 02:52, 17 April 2021 (UTC)Reply


Hi Scribe252, In addition, 2601:645:C001:4A40:5992:7D2B:8961:A48D (talk) 03:24, 17 April 2021 (UTC) here, to address BriefEdits and others regarding using NPOV. I've taken great care in choosing the right words for Biographies of living persons that only take a neutral point of view when adding to the Alison Collins article. The addition I made to Alison Collins article today summarizes the article and also uses neutral information taken from several news sources already cited in the article. I created value for the reader of the article by making the lead section readable enough so that the reader can understand the "nutshell" of the article by reading the lead section alone.Reply

I have reviewed what Wikipedia instructs editors specifically from these two wiki pages
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Lead_section

I find the claim BriefEdits and Scribe252 are making dubious regarding NPOV because the information is cited in great detail from several news sources already listed in the references section of the article. Sincerely, 2601:645:C001:4A40:5992:7D2B:8961:A48D (talk) 03:24, 17 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

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@DPL bot, I don't think that I put that link, or at least did not mean to. I will make the correction.

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